I'm going to go ahead and put it out there - Page 2

*Powder* · 12-19-2014, 06:04 PM

Yes, I do, but not the punchline mockery modern pop culture has made of it in recent years. There are facts to support the existence of numerous secret societies who have influence over those who run this country.

*Netkeeper* · 12-19-2014, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powder

Yes, I do, but not the punchline mockery modern pop culture has made of it in recent years. There are facts to support the existence of numerous secret societies who have influence over those who run this country.

While I make Illuminati jokes all the time, basically this.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-19-2014, 06:14 PM

The Freemasons exist but I'unno about all that other stuff.

One thing I learned a long time ago watching Garfield cartoons is, no matter how tight any group is, you can completely put them at each other's throats just by asking them what topping they want on their pizza. That said, if that's all it takes to turn people against each other, there is just No Way a group of people could ever maintain any kind of unity, and secret unity on top of that, long enough to manipulate events on a global scale.

Plus, people are awful at keeping secrets. More would have leaked out by now. The entire idea of a successful secret society just goes against every fiber of human nature. I could believe one possibly exists but I have a hard time believing they'd ever have the "pull" people think/say they do.

Just look what happened to the real New World Order... At first, they did whatever they wanted, but once they started letting guys like Virgil and Big Bubba and Stevie Ray in, they collapsed like a house of cards.

*ZariusTwo* · 12-19-2014, 06:29 PM

Yes, there's plenty of evidence to support the existence of the Illuminati, it's been apparent in the entertainment industry for years, in cartoons, music, movies, you name it, all can easily be found without necessarily playing Beyonce videos backwards or something sillier. It has a fairly impressionable stamp that hides in plain sight, which harkens back to what Leo's saying...people aree terrible at keeping secrets, so they find it easier to be public about it, or to advertise it as "cool" and "part of entertainment" (like the wrestling NWO) most of Joe Q Public are so depressingly stupid they'll never piece any of this together anyway

"You were made to be ruled"-Loki, the Avengers

~~Leo656~~ · 12-19-2014, 06:41 PM

I'unno man... It's kind of a far hop from, "A bunch of mostly-Jewish folks who took over for their parents, give jobs to their friends and family members, and don't let anyone from 'outside' join the club are the ones who run the entertainment industry" - which is true - to "There's a secret society that runs Everything, including the global economy and starting all the wars". As for those "hidden symbols" and messages and whatnot, that's people seeing what they want to see. Like the supposed hidden messages in songs played backwards. If you're listening for it, of course you're going to hear it. That doesn't mean it's really there.

I think elections are a sham and Presidents and politicians are chosen behind closed doors by corporations based on who will best-serve their interests, and the rest is all a popularity contest/beauty pageant to make people think their opinions really matter, but that's really as far as it goes. That's not exactly the same thing as what you're talking about.

*pennydreadful* · 12-19-2014, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterTurtle

No evidence, so there's no reason to believe the Illuminati exists. Okay, you convinced me. Illuminati is in the same category as the Loch Ness monster now.

There are plenty of folks who believe in the existence of the Illuminati, or extra-terrestrials, or the Loch Ness Monster... it's just that you probably wouldn't find many of them on a Ninja Turtles forum.

It's really best to do your own research and draw your own conclusions from there.

For my part - I've never done much research on the Illuminati, but subjects like cryptozoology, ghosts and demons are something I'm very interested in.

*snake* · 12-19-2014, 09:10 PM

Illuminati confirmed.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-19-2014, 09:13 PM

Spoiler:

*snake* · 12-19-2014, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Spoiler:

THIS IS NO LAUGHING MATTER!

Spoiler:

~~Leo656~~ · 12-19-2014, 09:19 PM

*Netkeeper* · 12-19-2014, 09:20 PM

Aw, thanks Skeletor.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-19-2014, 09:23 PM

*snake* · 12-19-2014, 09:25 PM

I'm starting to think you keep folders of this on your computer.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-19-2014, 09:33 PM

Nah, I don't have a place online to host 'em. I just search blazingly fast.

I always have very specific ideas in my head for what I want to use, and so far, Google Image hasn't let me down.

*Netkeeper* · 12-19-2014, 09:36 PM

~~Davetello~~ · 12-19-2014, 09:37 PM

Yeah. It just makes sense that there are secret societies out there who are controlling everything. I used to read about it all the time but I stopped a while back (for the most part).

For those saying it would be too difficult to control...I've heard that said before but I think that's underestimating humanity. Furthermore, that's what they want you to think.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-19-2014, 09:44 PM

The longer I live, the more I know for sure that, if anything, people OVER-estimate humanity.

"Ladies and Gentlemen... From the same people who brought you The Edsel, The Challenger Space Shuttle, The 'Ferris Bueller' Live-Action TV Show, New Coke, and most of all, 247 'Fast & Furious' movies, we proudly bring to you... your All-Knowing, All-Powerful Global Conspiracy!!!"

Seriously. People simply ain't that bright.

~~Davetello~~ · 12-19-2014, 09:46 PM

Cuts both ways, big lad. I could say it came from the same people who invented the telegraph, the internet, penicillin, air travel and - most importantly - the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

~~Leo656~~ · 12-19-2014, 09:48 PM

If Peter Laird was the head of a global conspiracy we'd all have died of boredom years ago.

And everybody knows those other things were developed from technology given to us by Aliens.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 12-19-2014, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Whatswiththeheadbands?

IMO, there is no evidence to suggest that they exist at all, so, no I don't believe the Illuminati exists

there's nothing saying they don't exist either. but one just has to know where to look

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Originally Posted by Leo656

So... you're asking if I believe in a... New World Order...?

Spoiler:

......Obviously.

4-Life baby

12-19-2014, 06:29 PM	#24
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,479	Yes, there's plenty of evidence to support the existence of the Illuminati, it's been apparent in the entertainment industry for years, in cartoons, music, movies, you name it, all can easily be found without necessarily playing Beyonce videos backwards or something sillier. It has a fairly impressionable stamp that hides in plain sight, which harkens back to what Leo's saying...people aree terrible at keeping secrets, so they find it easier to be public about it, or to advertise it as "cool" and "part of entertainment" (like the wrestling NWO) most of Joe Q Public are so depressingly stupid they'll never piece any of this together anyway "You were made to be ruled"-Loki, the Avengers __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

12-19-2014, 06:41 PM	#25
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I'unno man... It's kind of a far hop from, "A bunch of mostly-Jewish folks who took over for their parents, give jobs to their friends and family members, and don't let anyone from 'outside' join the club are the ones who run the entertainment industry" - which is true - to "There's a secret society that runs Everything, including the global economy and starting all the wars". As for those "hidden symbols" and messages and whatnot, that's people seeing what they want to see. Like the supposed hidden messages in songs played backwards. If you're listening for it, of course you're going to hear it. That doesn't mean it's really there. I think elections are a sham and Presidents and politicians are chosen behind closed doors by corporations based on who will best-serve their interests, and the rest is all a popularity contest/beauty pageant to make people think their opinions really matter, but that's really as far as it goes. That's not exactly the same thing as what you're talking about. Last edited by Leo656; 12-19-2014 at 06:48 PM.

12-19-2014, 09:20 PM	#31
Netkeeper tactical blackquill Join Date: May 2014 Location: Texas, but not for much longer Posts: 3,645	Aw, thanks Skeletor. __________________

12-19-2014, 09:36 PM	#35
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12-19-2014, 06:04 PM	#21
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,954	Yes, I do, but not the punchline mockery modern pop culture has made of it in recent years. There are facts to support the existence of numerous secret societies who have influence over those who run this country.

12-19-2014, 06:14 PM	#23
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	The Freemasons exist but I'unno about all that other stuff. One thing I learned a long time ago watching Garfield cartoons is, no matter how tight any group is, you can completely put them at each other's throats just by asking them what topping they want on their pizza. That said, if that's all it takes to turn people against each other, there is just No Way a group of people could ever maintain any kind of unity, and secret unity on top of that, long enough to manipulate events on a global scale. Plus, people are awful at keeping secrets. More would have leaked out by now. The entire idea of a successful secret society just goes against every fiber of human nature. I could believe one possibly exists but I have a hard time believing they'd ever have the "pull" people think/say they do. Just look what happened to the real New World Order... At first, they did whatever they wanted, but once they started letting guys like Virgil and Big Bubba and Stevie Ray in, they collapsed like a house of cards.

12-19-2014, 09:10 PM	#27
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	Illuminati confirmed.

12-19-2014, 09:13 PM	#28
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Spoiler:

12-19-2014, 09:19 PM	#30
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703

12-19-2014, 09:23 PM	#32
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703

12-19-2014, 09:25 PM	#33
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	I'm starting to think you keep folders of this on your computer.

12-19-2014, 09:33 PM	#34
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Nah, I don't have a place online to host 'em. I just search blazingly fast. I always have very specific ideas in my head for what I want to use, and so far, Google Image hasn't let me down.

12-19-2014, 09:37 PM	#36
~~Davetello~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Greater Glasgow, Scotland, The Ununited Kingdom Posts: 1,712	Yeah. It just makes sense that there are secret societies out there who are controlling everything. I used to read about it all the time but I stopped a while back (for the most part). For those saying it would be too difficult to control...I've heard that said before but I think that's underestimating humanity. Furthermore, that's what they want you to think.

12-19-2014, 09:44 PM	#37
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	The longer I live, the more I know for sure that, if anything, people OVER-estimate humanity. "Ladies and Gentlemen... From the same people who brought you The Edsel, The Challenger Space Shuttle, The 'Ferris Bueller' Live-Action TV Show, New Coke, and most of all, 247 'Fast & Furious' movies, we proudly bring to you... your All-Knowing, All-Powerful Global Conspiracy!!!" Seriously. People simply ain't that bright.

12-19-2014, 09:46 PM	#38
~~Davetello~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Greater Glasgow, Scotland, The Ununited Kingdom Posts: 1,712	Cuts both ways, big lad. I could say it came from the same people who invented the telegraph, the internet, penicillin, air travel and - most importantly - the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

12-19-2014, 09:48 PM	#39
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	If Peter Laird was the head of a global conspiracy we'd all have died of boredom years ago. And everybody knows those other things were developed from technology given to us by Aliens.