The Official Venting/Whining/Criticism Thread!

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

He want to force loyalty with Karai because in his twisted mind he still thinks of her as his daughter even though he has said that Splinter is truly her father. As he told the turtles.

"I'm the one who raised her, cared for her!"

So the next step in if this mind control thing doesn't work is declaring Karai a lost cause and killing her as a way of destroying Splinter's spirit. Kinda in a "If I can't have her...no one will" frame of mind.

I'll admit that seems much more in character for Shredder to think that way. Him looking at her as traitor would've have require to look at her as person rather then a object which something that I don't think he has every done with anyone. It might be one reasons why he has no trouble with the possibility of turning his allies into borderline mindless animals because in his mind humans are no different then animals serves as a means to a end.

It would be nice to know about Shredder before he became Shredder, especially some insight how his relationship was with his surrogate parents before he knew the truth.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Well, if this is all the case...then it proves that the story of Karai and Shredder is getting more development and more of an arc than folks like Raph & Mikey, and the 'Dark Raph' bit was just time-killing filler for the Real Story between Karai, Shredder, and Splinter...throw in Leo, Don, and April in there as well.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

Well, I hope so. He's the main bad guy. If he fell in love with them in the middle of it, then it'd be pretty damn weird. So of course his 'hate is consistent'.

Also, how am I wrong on the other stuff? Raph got turned into a plant, and turned back. Never mentioned or thought of again. The family got beat the living hell out of them by Slash, by the next 'Full' showing of Slash, he was pretty much turned back into a 'Decent Guy' and the family didn't have the ill will of folks that got almost beat to death by this person/thing. Various other examples.

Mikey's hug to Raph at the end of Season 2, to calm Raph down from his rage. That was a scene most people on the forum thought was a Great Moment. You'd think it would come into play again in the future/down the road (Mikey turning Raph to the Light Side, or etc). But nope (and please, don't got 'it will in the future', i would bet Top Dollar on that not happening).

I wasn't disagreeing with the other things. I was disagreeing with you about this mind control stuff and how I couldn't see this not cropping up again given how adamant Shredder is over wanting control of Karai. I just couldn't see it being ignored given how important Karai is to Shredder.

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Now I want to see some twisted version where Shredder is a psychopath who actually had a thing for Yoshi and is vengeful because Yoshi wouldn't let Shredder love him. Exacerbated by an irrational belief that Yoshi got mutated on purpose to avoid him.

Is it wrong that I already jokingly feel this way regarding Shredder? lol

"Fight me rat!" lol

[Shark_Blade]

Yeah get dat Shredder love lmfao

Why does this thread has a "hot guys" tag in it...?

[Ashwolf]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

I wasn't disagreeing with the other things. I was disagreeing with you about this mind control stuff and how I couldn't see this not cropping up again given how adamant Shredder is over wanting control of Karai. I just couldn't see it being ignored given how important Karai is to Shredder.Is it wrong that I already jokingly feel this way regarding Shredder? lol

"Fight me rat!" lol

Not only that but he's willing 2 do anything 2 hurt splinter cause he never planned on karai mutating, his anger and shortsightedness got in way, so when mutating them failed and no easily accessible mutagen supply, he went 2 the next option and I doubt he won't try again at getting them along w karai, heck, I won't put it past him on another attempt at mutating them

Regarding the mind control, it's possible that the worms will be removed from the process and it'll just injected in2 the cerebrum once the modifications r made

[GiveMeBackMyRaphXLeo]

And i like 2003casey better too. Not just bcoz 2003 casey is more muscular, also bcoz 2003 casey is cuter.

This char is suppose to be a raph incarnation, strung but simple minded,. But nick casey seems focus on other things,they make casey a good for nothing horny head, who always thinking of touch april... thats just lame. pretty apealing in early ep, however in the later eps, he becomes a freakin horny head together with donnie the freakin horny nerd keep kissin aprils azz , thats gross! Why nick has to make guys look so lame? Esp. Casey is the only good lookin guys in the show n they have to ruin him like that! The cute casey who would blush by holding aprils hand is gone in this show! 2003 casey is so cute he is shy with date, shy with hold hands, shy with kiss, ect..

n nick has to ruin it. They make him a jelly bean of don, i dont c why would a good lookin guy be jelly of a turtle. It doesn t make sense.

And they make him horny head, instead of makin.him alike raph, they make him alike don, i mean, in horny wise, these two r like aprils dogs, jeasuz, well i dont umderstand whats so good abt april but if they want to show us true love maybe this is a bad example.


"Im savin it for hollywood."casey referred to his face in the ep where he met raph for the 1st time. Casey is suppose to be a hot guy... n thats why april couldnt move her eyes away frm him when the turtles introduced casey to her at her place.

And in this nick version, april is a completely phony, why i say that? Yea , like she never noticed casey is a good lookin guy and she just wanted to teach some Boy in her school.some math or something...heh heh heh... that so fake man...

[IndigoErth]

Such an Irma. Prob an 8th grade one at that.

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Why does this thread has a "hot guys" tag in it...?

You're late to the party, see thread poster above.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Such an Irma. Prob an 8th grade one at that.


You're late to the party, see thread poster above.

how is this troll still not banned yet

[Amaranthus]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

how is this troll still not banned yet

How are you still responding?
He's obviously just trying to piss you off. Report and move on.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Leo capable than the rest? Pfft, yeah right. NOT!

- Leo tossed by Raph in the very first episode (Rise of the Turtles) during weapon duel training.
- Leo defeated by ALL his brothers in Follow the Leader. Then Raph tossed his sword stained by marker with the words: "Lame-o-nardo"
- Leo bitch-slapped by Mikey on the face during training in the dojo embarassing him in front of Karai. (Vengeance is mine).


Ha! The awkward "leader" in blue still have much to learn.

That was all in the first and second seasons. Most of it in the first. Third season hasn't had Raph win a fight or be the hero, at all. But then again, I pretty much stopped watching the show since back to the Beaver episode.

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

That was all in the first and second seasons. Most of it in the first. Third season hasn't had Raph win a fight or be the hero, at all. But then again, I pretty much stopped watching the show since back to the Beaver episode.

Well trust me. You didn't miss much. It was the same ol' same ol' with Raph. The butt of the jokes, needing rescued, shoved in the background and so on.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Sabacooza

Well trust me. You didn't miss much. It was the same ol' same ol' with Raph. The butt of the jokes, needing rescued, shoved in the background and so on.

So, is Leo still the only Turtle to actually beat Splinter during training? I was hoping the next one to do it would actually be Mikey, considering he's supposed to be the fastest and most naturally talented.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Why does this thread has a "hot guys" tag in it...?

Tehe...

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

So, is Leo still the only Turtle to actually beat Splinter during training? I was hoping the next one to do it would actually be Mikey, considering he's supposed to be the fastest and most naturally talented.

As far as I remember, Leo was the only one to get a hit in.

[Meliwen]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

That was all in the first and second seasons. Most of it in the first. Third season hasn't had Raph win a fight or be the hero, at all. But then again, I pretty much stopped watching the show since back to the Beaver episode.

I'd say Raph at least had the upper hand in the entire fight against Leo. He disarmed Leo from his swords, broke his trident, leaving Leo with nothing when he did his final charge. Had it gone on he'd probably have won.

[darthwahl56]

Originally Posted by Sabacooza

As far as I remember, Leo was the only one to get a hit in.

Even then, didn't it show that Splinter was actually holding back.

[TurFlytle]

Originally Posted by GiveMeBackMyRaphXLeo

And i like 2003casey better too. Not just bcoz 2003 casey is more muscular, also bcoz 2003 casey is cuter.

This char is suppose to be a raph incarnation, strung but simple minded,. But nick casey seems focus on other things,they make casey a good for nothing horny head, who always thinking of touch april... thats just lame. pretty apealing in early ep, however in the later eps, he becomes a freakin horny head together with donnie the freakin horny nerd keep kissin aprils azz , thats gross! Why nick has to make guys look so lame? Esp. Casey is the only good lookin guys in the show n they have to ruin him like that! The cute casey who would blush by holding aprils hand is gone in this show! 2003 casey is so cute he is shy with date, shy with hold hands, shy with kiss, ect..

n nick has to ruin it. They make him a jelly bean of don, i dont c why would a good lookin guy be jelly of a turtle. It doesn t make sense.

And they make him horny head, instead of makin.him alike raph, they make him alike don, i mean, in horny wise, these two r like aprils dogs, jeasuz, well i dont umderstand whats so good abt april but if they want to show us true love maybe this is a bad example.


"Im savin it for hollywood."casey referred to his face in the ep where he met raph for the 1st time. Casey is suppose to be a hot guy... n thats why april couldnt move her eyes away frm him when the turtles introduced casey to her at her place.

And in this nick version, april is a completely phony, why i say that? Yea , like she never noticed casey is a good lookin guy and she just wanted to teach some Boy in her school.some math or something...heh heh heh... that so fake man...

This comment hurts my brain to read...

But I hd 2 tak in your languag 2 understand u n u must realy luv to abreviate words. it must b so hard 4 u 2 say the full word

[Ashwolf]

Originally Posted by TurFlytle

This comment hurts my brain to read...

But I hd 2 tak in your languag 2 understand u n u must realy luv to abreviate words. it must b so hard 4 u 2 say the full word

I prefer 2 do a lot of abbreviating cause I do a lot of gaming but dang, I had a tough time reading wat that troll said in another post

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by darthwahl56

Even then, didn't it show that Splinter was actually holding back.

Yep. He was clearly holding back.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Sabacooza

Yep. He could break him if he wanted to but that wouldn't make for a very good parent.

You know, this is another reason why I thought the latest episode was a bit disappointing. Back in the episode Plan 10, when Raph had gone through that switcharoo with the Kraang, I thought they were hinting with how hard it was for the guys to control Raph's body, that Raph must have been holding back himself during their training times. Case in point was in the Meet Casey Jones ep, he lost the first fight with Leo, but then when he went on berserk, not Leo, or even Splinter, was fast enough or skilled enough to stop Raph from beating the hell out of Leo. It was one of the times he lost control of himself. I was hoping to see something like that in this episode, where Raph isn't holding back and is very difficult to bring down on fighting skills/muscle strength alone. I wished it would have been all three fighting him, and he easily overpowers them, but then he gets ready to deal a killing blow to Mikey, and Mikey snaps him out of it, because deep down, Raphael would never want to hurt his brothers, especially Mikey. They so effed up on this episode, it's not even funny.