Official Ep Discussion: S3 Ep23: "The Fourfold Trap"

*Vicky82* · 09-13-2015, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by aliena

This is one of my favorite episodes now. I loved so much about this one.

We get to see all the bad guys together, Fishface going belly up LOL.
When Rocksteady was approaching Raph with his weapons, was that a slight nod to IDW? Scared me a bit for a second there.
Loved Donnie and Leo fight, about time Donnie yelled back.
The look on Leo's face when the formula failed, I never seem to tire of seeing him devastated.
ICK playing cards! Too cute, I love his attitude and is that the first time he "spoke"?
Mikey's banter with Bebop and Rocksteady about naming the Toilet of Doom or whatever.

Thing that irked me..
Leo saved Raph and Raph did nothing!! Again?! It was supposed to be all of them working together, but Raph didn't get to do anything really, Leo did most of it, again. What a waste.

You do realise Raph was being slowly baked to death, he nearly died. So he didn't do anything because he was still recovering.

Aaronardo · 09-13-2015, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

You do realise Raph was being slowly baked to death, he nearly died. So he didn't do anything because he was still recovering.

I don't think anyone would be whining about this if Raph hadn't been chucked to the side by Leo saving him again and again this past season. Even the first episode of the season has Leo saving Raph. It's like a seasonal arc and it's f*cking annoying, particularly for Raph fans. Would've had good payoff if they did the Dark Raph arc that we were wrongfully told, but, eh.
All I'm saying is, Raph better do something incredible to save Leo's sorry shell in the finale, or this would be the worst I've seen Raph handled in any incarnation yet. And I'm not even a huge Raph fan, to begin with.

Ramboraph4life aka Matt · 09-13-2015, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaronardo

All I'm saying is, Raph better do something incredible to save Leo's sorry shell in the finale, or this would be the worst I've seen Raph handled in any incarnation yet. And I'm not even a huge Raph fan, to begin with.

It's why I stopped watching a LONG Time ago. I only come on here once in a while to chat with folks, but the show itself? If you're a Raph fan...all you can look forward to is him talking to more Pigeons as if he's the woman in Home Alone 2: Lost in New York.

I remember Mikey saved Raph in the Punk Frogs episode, him being turned into a flower, and him being turned into a slave for Shredder for like 2 minutes and then Leo saved him by 'making fun of him' (saw bits of that on youtube, just for the 'car crash' type of curiosity)...

So I am not surprised at all to read what you typed. And hey, this isn't a slight to anyone who enjoys the show. Just adds more fuel to the fire as to why I did stop watching it long ago. The guy's just a big, useless Puss in this incarnation. Just MY opinion.

*Cure* · 09-13-2015, 04:47 PM

It's really fascinating to me how people can swear off the show and still hang out and post in the section dedicated to said show. Criticisms are one thing, but this is a whole other level.

I liked this episode because the Karai plot move forward A BIT, even though I wish she wasn't "lost" again. Otherwise not bad, not great.

Ramboraph4life aka Matt · 09-13-2015, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure

It's really fascinating to me how people can swear off the show and still hang out and post in the section dedicated to said show.

First off, Cure, I actually I haven't posted on here (here meaning Anywhere on the Turtles Forum) in months.

Second off, I wasn't talking to you. I was talking & agreeing with Aaronardo (but you had to butt in and throw that little 'snide' against me, even though I didn't do anything to you).

And third, like I said...I only come on here to chat with folks. When I do, then yes I take a quick view of the threads (general, movie, comics, etc.) to see what's up.

What Aaronardo typed struck me as 'ah yes, I'm reminded as to why I did give up on that show'. Which is the point of threads, to engage in conversation.

Is that alright with you, Boss Man? Oh, It is? Thank you, Sir.

*Cure* · 09-13-2015, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

Second off, I wasn't talking to you (but i know that little 'snide' was against me).

Of course it was, who else? Not exactly hiding it.

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Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

Is that alright with you, Boss Man? Oh, It is? Thank you, Sir.

Not what I would have said. Don't answer for me.

Aaronardo · 09-13-2015, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure

It's really fascinating to me how people can swear off the show and still hang out and post in the section dedicated to said show. Criticisms are one thing, but this is a whole other level.

If this is directed towards me (the only criticism I remember reading on this thread), realize that I very much enjoy most other aspects of the show. I could go on and on about how I love this reimagining of the Shredder/Splinter plot, and how Leo's character arc is phenomenal. I even like this incarnation of Raph quite a bit, particularly in the first season. I just don't like how he's handled, particularly in Season 3. To me, it's one negative to an overall great episode, but I felt like I need to express my opinions on the character. No harm in that.

Ramboraph4life aka Matt · 09-13-2015, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaronardo

If this is directed towards me (the only criticism I remember reading on this thread), realize that I very much enjoy most other aspects of the show. I could go on and on about how I love this reimagining of the Shredder/Splinter plot, and how Leo's character arc is phenomenal. I even like this incarnation of Raph quite a bit, particularly in the first season. I just don't like how he's handled, particularly in Season 3. To me, it's one negative to an overall great episode, but I felt like I need to express my opinions on the character. No harm in that.

No, he was talking to me. Apparently I can't just come on here after being away for months, look through the forums out of curiosity, see your post, and reply to you/agree with your thoughts. I guess that's Against The Law or something.

*Ninturtle* · 09-13-2015, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

It's why I stopped watching a LONG Time ago. I only come on here once in a while to chat with folks, but the show itself? If you're a Raph fan...all you can look forward to is him talking to more Pigeons as if he's the woman in Home Alone 2: Lost in New York.

I remember Mikey saved Raph in the Punk Frogs episode, him being turned into a flower, and him being turned into a slave for Shredder for like 2 minutes and then Leo saved him by 'making fun of him' (saw bits of that on youtube, just for the 'car crash' type of curiosity)...

So I am not surprised at all to read what you typed. And hey, this isn't a slight to anyone who enjoys the show. Just adds more fuel to the fire as to why I did stop watching it long ago. The guy's just a big, useless Puss in this incarnation. Just MY opinion.

In pretty much every example you stated other turtles needed to be saved too. Raph isn't useless and a puss he's just under used.. But if you want to dislike this version of Raph than that's fine , I can't nor do I want to force you to conform to my opinion.

*CyberCubed* · 09-13-2015, 05:27 PM

These episode review threads have gotten very embarrassing to read. Can't you guys just review the episode instead of bickering?

*IndigoErth* · 09-13-2015, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

These episode review threads have gotten very embarrassing to read. Can't you guys just review the episode instead of bickering?

With an opinionated species like ours? Good luck.

Ursalink · 09-13-2015, 05:44 PM

Well, for what I read about the season's finale, I knew Karai had to appear in another episode. It's really sad what she did to her real family, but at least she's now free. I suspected the "healing technique" would be the key for it, considering it debuted the same episode that Karai was brainwashed. Too bad she won't be present in anymore episodes of this season. At least, now she's free from the mind control and she has her mutation under control too.

I wish for her to return in the next season, when the turtles are back from their space adventure.

*Autbot_Benz* · 09-13-2015, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

These episode review threads have gotten very embarrassing to read. Can't you guys just review the episode instead of bickering?

Sounds like a Certain Movie section on the forums. Its just annoying when the butthurt "Raph fans" come here and whine every other episode.

*Vicky82* · 09-13-2015, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

Sounds like a Certain Movie section on the forums. Its just annoying when the butthurt "Raph fans" come here and whine every other episode.

Yeah and some of them haven't even seen the episode and go by other people's opinions.

Werecat · 09-13-2015, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaronardo

I don't think anyone would be whining about this if Raph hadn't been chucked to the side by Leo saving him again and again this past season. Even the first episode of the season has Leo saving Raph. It's like a seasonal arc and it's f*cking annoying, particularly for Raph fans. Would've had good payoff if they did the Dark Raph arc that we were wrongfully told, but, eh.
All I'm saying is, Raph better do something incredible to save Leo's sorry shell in the finale, or this would be the worst I've seen Raph handled in any incarnation yet. And I'm not even a huge Raph fan, to begin with.

I agree, how they handle Raph is annoying cause they make him so weak and useless. The problem is that Nick is still poorly handling Raph's character. You think they would take criticism and make Raph's character better but not. Instead we get "Mikey is better and Donny is better as well...who is Raph again?"

I bet you that free brain worm is going to target Leo too and its gonna be a "all-about Leo" season finale. I am so tired of Leo, I liked him when he was humble and had weaknesses but now it seems the whole world breaks laws and physics to make Leo superior again.

kelligrafie · 09-13-2015, 07:03 PM

ANYWAY.

Anyone else notice that the wires in Donnie's helmet were the turtles' mask colours?

Red, orange, blue and purple. That colour combination always makes me smile.

And, as a Raph fan, I liked this episode and I liked Raph in it.

*Luckyday* · 09-13-2015, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kelligrafie

ANYWAY.

Anyone else notice that the wires in Donnie's helmet were the turtles' mask colours?

Red, orange, blue and purple. That colour combination always makes me smile.

And, as a Raph fan, I liked this episode and I liked Raph in it.

It seem that this episode was written by Mark Henry. The guy who wrote "Buried Secrets", and "Battle for New York, part 2" . The guy has a talent for writing scary episodes.

Werecat · 09-13-2015, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Luckyday

It seem that this episode was written by Mark Henry. The guy who wrote "Buried Secrets", and "Battle for New York, part 2" . The guy has a talent for writing scary episodes.

he also likes to write Raph's character poorly. lol

*IndigoErth* · 09-13-2015, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Luckyday

The guy has a talent for writing scary episodes.

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he also likes to write Raph's character poorly. lol

In that case, put him on the job of exploring the potentially scarier side of Raph's psyche.

*ToTheNines* · 09-13-2015, 07:45 PM

Awesome episode, top five of the season for sure. Easter eggs and references were on point. Me and the girl friend got huge laughs from Splinters wheel, the card game, Mike's female form and more.

Splinter kicked ass and it was cool seeing him fight Bebop and Rocksteady. That normally happens once in each version.

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Originally Posted by Cure

I liked this episode because the Karai plot move forward A BIT, even though I wish she wasn't "lost" again. Otherwise not bad, not great.

Yeah, I'm just worried she's gonna be outta the picture for a while. Especially considering the outer space focus of season 4.

View Poll Results: Which was scarier, the Brainworm or the She-Mikey/Venus image?
Only Splinter could use a Hamsterwheel and Cheesephone with dignity.	26	44.07%
Sometimes being leader is completely useless...	3	5.08%
I was born with a naturally rare awesomeness.	4	6.78%
You be a snoozer, you be a loser...	20	33.90%
Looks like "Dad-us Ex Machina" strikes again...	6	10.17%
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09-13-2015, 04:47 PM	#4
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	It's really fascinating to me how people can swear off the show and still hang out and post in the section dedicated to said show. Criticisms are one thing, but this is a whole other level. I liked this episode because the Karai plot move forward A BIT, even though I wish she wasn't "lost" again. Otherwise not bad, not great. __________________

09-13-2015, 07:03 PM	#16
kelligrafie Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Huddersfield, UK Posts: 840	ANYWAY. Anyone else notice that the wires in Donnie's helmet were the turtles' mask colours? Red, orange, blue and purple. That colour combination always makes me smile. And, as a Raph fan, I liked this episode and I liked Raph in it. __________________ "You don't see (Shredder) calling Rahzar 'Chris'." victory_angel "When it's not what I'd like it to be, I still enjoy it." ElectricN

09-13-2015, 05:27 PM	#10
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,881	These episode review threads have gotten very embarrassing to read. Can't you guys just review the episode instead of bickering?

09-13-2015, 05:44 PM	#12
Ursalink Foot Soldier Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 136	Well, for what I read about the season's finale, I knew Karai had to appear in another episode. It's really sad what she did to her real family, but at least she's now free. I suspected the "healing technique" would be the key for it, considering it debuted the same episode that Karai was brainwashed. Too bad she won't be present in anymore episodes of this season. At least, now she's free from the mind control and she has her mutation under control too. I wish for her to return in the next season, when the turtles are back from their space adventure.