Official TMNT 2 Discussion - Page 206

*MrTMNT2012* · 05-20-2016, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

That's a weak excuse considering how every other version of TMNT has handled how the Mutagen works better than this.

No. No it f#cking didn't.

Both explanations are stupid. Comparing which is LESS stupid is a dumbass comparison.

Technogeek29 · 05-20-2016, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Whatever, it's movie science.

And I quote.

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Originally Posted by Technogeek29

There are some days where I think you're trolling.

*Autbot_Benz* · 05-20-2016, 06:48 PM

If Tigerclaw found a piece of feces on the ground with the 80's turtles on it he would get excited lets be real here

*TurtleTitan97* · 05-20-2016, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

No. No it f#cking didn't.

*Galactus* · 05-20-2016, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

If Tigerclaw found a piece of feces on the ground with the 80's turtles on it he would get excited lets be real here

Well conveniently not this time. Now a piece of feces with a different TMNT logo one is better. Different feces should have different logos y'know.

*Autbot_Benz* · 05-20-2016, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus

Well conveniently not this time. Now a piece of feces with a different TMNT logo one is better. Different feces should have different logos y'know.

ya i think I found a big feces with the BatmanvSuperman logo on it

I am gonna see this movie and i think the dormant animal gene is stupid.

~~Commenter 42~~ · 05-20-2016, 06:55 PM

Gotta love that science can be bent/broken in film, but, change a characters gender or race .... BOOM!!!!

Anyway, yeah, when you make less sense than FW...big gold stars all around.

*Galactus* · 05-20-2016, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

No. No it f#cking didn't.

Both explanations are stupid. Comparing which is LESS stupid is a dumbass comparison.

Y'know I was going to let this slide but the more I thought about it, it's much more wrong than I initially thought. It's natural to put to similar concepts together and see how they stack up.

Both previous explanations for the effects of ooze/mutagen have strong antecedents in classic fiction even if the execution of the Fred Wolf version is absurd.

I would also say that it's more or less fair to speculate what fictional substance would do to a human body, less so to suggest a real life thing like the human body has something already in it to facilitate the same reaction. If this was a string theme that would be explored I'd be open to it but it's being used a hand wave solution to a problem that already had acceptable solutions.

*IndigoErth* · 05-20-2016, 07:16 PM

Placing bets that due to ancestry, Megan Fox mutates into a Turducken.

*LeotheLateBloomer* · 05-20-2016, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus

Y'know I was going to let this slide but the more I thought about it, it's much more wrong than I initially thought. It's natural to put to similar concepts together and see how they stack up.

Both previous explanations for the effects of ooze/mutagen have strong antecedents in classic fiction even if the execution of the Fred Wolf version is absurd.

I would also say that it's more or less fair to speculate what fictional substance would do to a human body, less so to suggest a real life thing like the human body has something already in it to facilitate the same reaction. If this was a string theme that would be explored I'd be open to it but it's being used a hand wave solution to a problem that already had acceptable solutions.

Well, I think we can all agree that turning an animal into a human is the most illogical aspect of mutation. We know it happened to Michelangelo in the Fred Wolf cartoon but again, this isn't the Fred Wolf cartoon. No matter how much people excited for this movie want to believe it is.

*Shark_Blade* · 05-20-2016, 07:51 PM

Imagine Mikey turns into Noel Fisher. I can see that happening, like 99% probability!

~~Etsyturtle2~~ · 05-20-2016, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Imagine Mikey turns into Noel Fisher. I can see that happening, like 99% probability!

I am depressed now.

*Foombamaroom* · 05-20-2016, 08:00 PM

I don't ****ing get it. These producers keep changing things because they're too stupid, yet they come up with even STUPIDER ideas?

Splinter being a rat who trained the Turtles because of past experience? Too stupid, let's have him learn an ancient art that requires constant practice and actual teaching from a ****ing book.

Mutagen that mutates you into the last thing you touched? Nah, let's ****ing re-write human biology.

*Galactus* · 05-20-2016, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

Well, I think we can all agree that turning an animal into a human is the most illogical aspect of mutation. We know it happened to Michelangelo in the Fred Wolf cartoon but again, this isn't the Fred Wolf cartoon. No matter how much people excited for this movie want to believe it is.

Heck even in the Fred Wolf show that one episode where Mikey became human wasn't portrayed as easy as a drop of mutagen instantly mutating him and the transformation didn't come without consequences.

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Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

I don't ****ing get it. These producers keep changing things because they're too stupid, yet they come up with even STUPIDER ideas?

Splinter being a rat who trained the Turtles because of past experience? Too stupid, let's have him learn an ancient art that requires constant practice and actual teaching from a ****ing book.

Mutagen that mutates you into the last thing you touched? Nah, let's ****ing re-write human biology.

Exactly. Even though I'm a huge fan and think a source accurate movie would do very well I'm not blind to the fact there are some aspects of TMNT that (on the surface) just sound weird and "too silly". I understand why a Hollywood producer's first instinct is to change it.

However they are replacing something stupid with much stupider things. A rat mimicking ninjutsu? Too unrealistic now he learns the entirety of martial arts from a book. Humans mutate into animals? Too simple how about the who human race has dormant animal genes to explain it. Much better.

*IndigoErth* · 05-20-2016, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

I don't ****ing get it. These producers keep changing things because they're too stupid, yet they come up with even STUPIDER ideas?

Splinter being a rat who trained the Turtles because of past experience? Too stupid, let's have him learn an ancient art that requires constant practice and actual teaching from a ****ing book.

No no, I think the term is "too complicated." Let's simplify it into stupidity.

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Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

Mutagen that mutates you into the last thing you touched? Nah, let's ****ing re-write human biology.

Too complicaaa... no, wait, it was simple before, let's unnecessarily complicate it without explanation.

You know... it's becoming clear to me that it's just a bunch of guys writing and producing who never mentally got out of their teens (as if we didn't already know Bay is a giant man child) and are eternally stuck in that rebellious phase where they just want to do everything the opposite from what they are shown by someone else.

*Foombamaroom* · 05-20-2016, 08:52 PM

I just can't ****ing believe it. They can't even get the laws of fictional mutagen correct.

Are you really going to tell me that Turtles have strands of human DNA in them or vice versa?!

"Oh yeah, guys, my spirit animal is a shark. Maybe I can be Bludgeon or Armaggon."

*DarkFell* · 05-20-2016, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

Damn, Cylon's Arrow discs have got to be eviscerated by now.

And whatever Arrow DVD's are left over - skeet.

Not sold on some of the Turtles wanting to turn human - however if they reversed the compounds within the mutagen and use it to revert B & R back into humans, then that might actually work.

Maybe..

*IndigoErth* · 05-20-2016, 09:23 PM

Little envious that I can't play with the Turtle chat bots.

http://www.adweek.com/news/advertisi...w-movie-171597

Have enjoyed a well made online chat bot or two in the past, always fun to try to confuse them or ask them awkward questions.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 05-20-2016, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

Damn, Cylon's Arrow discs have got to be eviscerated by now.

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Originally Posted by DarkFell

And whatever Arrow DVD's are left over - skeet.

Well this was an odd day. After atomizing my Arrow DVDs in the driveway (they're literally dust now), I was still so furious at everything about this movie (Does TigerClaw have latent amoeba genes in him?) that I went out to the nearest Best Buy and started trashing their Arrow DVDs right in the middle of the store. Jumping up and down on them, smashing them with a hammer...

Long story short, bail was a reasonable amount and I have a court hearing tomorrow. Michael Bay, I expect full reimbursement for my legal expenses.

*DarkFell* · 05-20-2016, 09:36 PM

^

Your life should have already been a movie by now. What's holding you back ?

05-20-2016, 06:48 PM	#4103
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 9,178	If Tigerclaw found a piece of feces on the ground with the 80's turtles on it he would get excited lets be real here __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

05-20-2016, 06:55 PM	#4107
~~Commenter 42~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 3,954	Gotta love that science can be bent/broken in film, but, change a characters gender or race .... BOOM!!!! Anyway, yeah, when you make less sense than FW...big gold stars all around.

05-20-2016, 07:16 PM	#4109
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,295	Placing bets that due to ancestry, Megan Fox mutates into a Turducken.

05-20-2016, 07:51 PM	#4111
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Imagine Mikey turns into Noel Fisher. I can see that happening, like 99% probability!

05-20-2016, 08:00 PM	#4113
Foombamaroom Lord of Cinder Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,646	I don't **ing get it. These producers keep changing things because they're too stupid, yet they come up with even STUPIDER ideas? Splinter being a rat who trained the Turtles because of past experience? Too stupid, let's have him learn an ancient art that requires constant practice and actual teaching from a ing book. Mutagen that mutates you into the last thing you touched? Nah, let's **ing re-write human biology.

05-20-2016, 08:52 PM	#4116
Foombamaroom Lord of Cinder Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,646	I just can't ****ing believe it. They can't even get the laws of fictional mutagen correct. Are you really going to tell me that Turtles have strands of human DNA in them or vice versa?! "Oh yeah, guys, my spirit animal is a shark. Maybe I can be Bludgeon or Armaggon."

05-20-2016, 09:23 PM	#4118
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,295	Little envious that I can't play with the Turtle chat bots. http://www.adweek.com/news/advertisi...w-movie-171597 Have enjoyed a well made online chat bot or two in the past, always fun to try to confuse them or ask them awkward questions.