Official TMNT 2 Discussion - Page 260

*ToTheNines* · 05-31-2016, 08:19 AM

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Whatever keeps China happy. They bring in massive revenue for Hollywood movies so the last thing PD wants is their movie banned in China.

Piss-poor attitude.

*THGhost* · 05-31-2016, 10:41 AM

Seen it. Loved it. Far better than the first one, but I know that won't stop some people here from ripping it a new one.

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Piss-poor attitude.

Just stating facts. Not saying I agree with them.

*Andrew NDB* · 05-31-2016, 10:53 AM

I only ask out of morbid curiosity, but does TMNT 2 even bother explaining why Splinter hates Shredder and vice versa? Or how Splinter knew who he was in part 1?

*THGhost* · 05-31-2016, 10:56 AM

I think the main reason why I enjoyed it more than the first one was because

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I only ask out of morbid curiosity, but does TMNT 2 even bother explaining why Splinter hates Shredder and vice versa? Or how Splinter knew who he was in part 1?

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*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 05-31-2016, 10:59 AM

http://screenrant.com/ninja-turtles-...s-michael-bay/

Only read if you need to induce vomiting because you've been poisoned or something.

*THGhost* · 05-31-2016, 11:09 AM

^ Twas a good call, cos Casey was a lot of fun. Not sure about his new backstory though.

graphic_content · 05-31-2016, 11:29 AM

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http://screenrant.com/ninja-turtles-...s-michael-bay/

Only read if you need to induce vomiting because you've been poisoned or something.

this kind of thing bothers me - according to the article they already had a story worked out, and Bay basically orders them to include Casey, forcing them to rewrite a story.

similarly, during a recent interview (AOL BUILD) the producers and writers talked about wanting to top the snow chase sequence from the first, and came up with the airplane sequence - - that was the first thing they did before coming up with a story.

Stories SHOULD NOT revolve around action scenes you want to see, or characters you demand are in, but these elements, and characters need to be added organically as a way of enhancing the storyline.

When I heard that they basically wrote the move around the airplane sequence it solidified to me that their primary concern was spectacle, and as a supporter of this particular iteration, that really upsets me.

*THGhost* · 05-31-2016, 11:39 AM

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this kind of thing bothers me - according to the article they already had a story worked out, and Bay basically orders them to include Casey, forcing them to rewrite a story.

similarly, during a recent interview (AOL BUILD) the producers and writers talked about wanting to top the snow chase sequence from the first, and came up with the airplane sequence - - that was the first thing they did before coming up with a story.

Stories SHOULD NOT revolve around action scenes you want to see, or characters you demand are in, but these elements, and characters need to be added organically as a way of enhancing the storyline.

When I heard that they basically wrote the move around the airplane sequence it solidified to me that their primary concern was spectacle, and as a supporter of this particular iteration, that really upsets me.

It was evident from the start that their primary concern was spectacle. Cool sig image, btw.

*TigerClaw* · 05-31-2016, 11:41 AM

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It was evident from the start that their primary concern was spectacle.

I known about that for months, there is sets footage of them filming that whole scene.

*THGhost* · 05-31-2016, 11:42 AM

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I known about that for months, there is sets footage of them filming that whole scene.

Twas a nice surprise for me, since I try my best to avoid stuff like that.

*ZariusTwo* · 05-31-2016, 11:50 AM

Yeah, I really enjoyed this one, the Turtles acted more like the Turtles, having fun, good banter, conflict when there needed to be, moments of doubt, and then they swiftly come together.

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in this day and age that faithful adaptations work. They MAKE money. Look at Marvel; they're a POWERHOUSE.

>Marvel
>faithful adaptations

letscook89 · 05-31-2016, 11:57 AM

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Home town performing the TMNT theme tune.

Wow nice. But Sethmartin said that there were rap parts into the song.

*Bry* · 05-31-2016, 12:01 PM

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>Marvel
>faithful adaptations

R...really? Theyre not 1:1 adaptations, but I'd say that the Marvel Studios movies are overall very true to the characters and the spirit of the comics. Compared to most other comic movies (definitely including BayTurtles in that) they go the extra mile.

graphic_content · 05-31-2016, 12:07 PM

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R...really? Theyre not 1:1 adaptations, but I'd say that the Marvel Studios movies are overall very true to the characters and the spirit of the comics. Compared to most other comic movies (definitely including BayTurtles in that) they go the extra mile.

id have to agree here - while not exactly lifted page for page, or word for word, Marvel has done a great job bringing comics to life; especially when adapting origin stories.

my biggest gripe with this iteration of the Turtles is the origin - its stayed virtually the same for years (with the exception of the IDW comics that introduced reincarnation, but still maintained the same elements), and the movie writers still decided they could do it better.

Marvel may make changes, but the fundamentals remain intact.

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*TigerClaw* · 05-31-2016, 12:12 PM

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id have to agree here - while not exactly lifted page for page, or word for word, Marvel has done a great job bringing comics to life; especially when adapting origin stories.

my biggest gripe with this iteration of the Turtles is the origin - its stayed virtually the same for years (with the exception of the IDW comics that introduced reincarnation, but still maintained the same elements), and the movie writers still decided they could do it better.

Marvel may make changes, but the fundamentals remain intact.

Its too bad that Fox's version of Quicksilver is 10x better then Marvel's version, which they just half assed and killed off.

graphic_content · 05-31-2016, 12:15 PM

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Its too bad that Fox's version of Quicksilver is 10x better then Marvel's version, which they just half assed and killed off.

this is unfortunately true. Sad part is, at least in my opinion, there isnt much else to enjoy in the FoX-Men besides Quicksilver.

guppy8466 · 05-31-2016, 12:18 PM

Anyone have a clip of krangs new voice? Or can someone that's seen say if it's any good?

*Bry* · 05-31-2016, 12:19 PM

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Its too bad that Fox's version of Quicksilver is 10x better then Marvel's version, which they just half assed and killed off.

The Fox Quicksilver's personality had more in common with DC's Impulse than comics Quicksilver. Which I loved, don't get me wrong -- Impulse is my favourite speedster.

But character-wise, the Marvel version felt more comics-accurate.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 05-31-2016, 12:25 PM

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The Fox Quicksilver's personality had more in common with DC's Impulse than comics Quicksilver. Which I loved, don't get me wrong -- Impulse is my favourite speedster.

But character-wise, the Marvel version felt more comics-accurate.

Agreed.

Except for all of their villains (Ultron, Malekith, Mandarin, Ronan), I think Marvel's been faithful with all their major characters except Drax. I honestly cannot come up with any issues that aren't related to their villains.

(And no, I'm not counting the Maximoffs' parentage rights issue.)

*ZariusTwo* · 05-31-2016, 12:29 PM

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R...really? Theyre not 1:1 adaptations, but I'd say that the Marvel Studios movies are overall very true to the characters and the spirit of the comics.

As a long-time Marvel reader, I'm calling b.s on that.

The movies are the comics put through a kindergarden filter and their characters are left all the poorer for it. Especially their villains.

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Marvel has done a great job bringing comics to life.

Do you do stand-up?

05-31-2016, 10:53 AM	#5183
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05-31-2016, 10:59 AM	#5185
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	http://screenrant.com/ninja-turtles-...s-michael-bay/ Only read if you need to induce vomiting because you've been poisoned or something. __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

05-31-2016, 11:09 AM	#5186
THGhost Puppet Master Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: UK Posts: 2,825	^ Twas a good call, cos Casey was a lot of fun. Not sure about his new backstory though. __________________ - - - 1990 > OotS > TMNT 2014 > Turtles Forever > TMNT III > SotO > TMNT 2007 "Can't we all just get along?" - pennydreadful "...bitchy people are what make fan forums insufferable when they don't need to be." - B-Man "Act like freakin' adults for goodness sake." - Jester "Tough guys with tiny voices." - Commenter 42

05-31-2016, 12:18 PM	#5197
guppy8466 Random Punk Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 31	Anyone have a clip of krangs new voice? Or can someone that's seen say if it's any good?