Suicide Squad Movie

[Electric]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

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I also do palm readings and Taro. 5 dola.

Exxxxxactly. Like I predicted, it was an insult. Apparently, I also can do palm readings. Considering me synonymous with an "angry fanboy" of BvS is wrong however. BvS wasn't the best, but it was a set up movie for justice league. I wasn't too personally concerned. And while I'm more than glad my and others multiple viewings of SS will help the movie, I saw it, like I said, because others wanted to see it and I really enjoyed it, not just to boost it's sales.

Your psychic business must not be doing too well

[Commenter 42]

It wasn't an insult. It was a prediction.
Lot's of raging DC apologists are doing what you are. It's part of the culture.
BTW, you made an assumption, not a prediction.

Chill kid.

[Electric]

If you're going to sit there correcting something so minuscule, I'd like to join in on the fun.

Because despite the fact that you made a "prediction," it was still insulting. As most things are with you.

My motivation for seeing the movie multiple times wasn't "raging" but general like of the movie.
You didn't make a prediction. You made an assumption. And a wrong one at that.

[Shark_Blade]

I've seen this movie twice now and loving it more. The audience love it and laughed a lot, some emotional heartfelt scenes too; people just love it.

"God help anyone who disrespected the Queen".

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Am I the only one who thinks her boobs are too small for Harley?

Her ass is too small for Harley.

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

people just love it.

So critics aren't people? Gotcha.

Oh wait, I knew that already.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

This movie was chopped up in the cutting room and all the Joker scenes were cut. I might as well wait till the uncut version comes out on bluray like they did with Batman/Superman.

I'm so sick and tired of people taking rumors and turning that into a movie review. I've read countless reviews that use the rumors, or maybe truths about the movie and their reshoots and two cuts of the movie, and make it part of their review. "There have been rumored reshoots, and the studio spent extra money, and there were two cuts, therefore the editing was jarring and the story was butchered." or "Joker had scenes cut, therefore this movie is bad." How about going and watching a movie without bringing in outside BS and already making a decision about the movie before seeing it? The normal movie goer does not give one sh*t about the things most movie critics (or wannabe movie snobs on this board) complain about. The story was pretty effing easy to follow, the editing was not jarring, the characters had good chemistry, and Harley Quinn was not over sexualized.

I read the bashing of BvS and now Suicide Squad and how the story is confusing and editing is jarring and yet, I was not knocked from my seat from edit cuts, I was not confused about the story. Why are we giving these idiots any power by accepting their stupid reviews? They can't even follow along with a simple movie plot.

Then there are the fanboys. They think they own these cartoons. They think they have final say on how a character should be portrayed in a film. "That's not MY Joker" "That's not MY Batman". Grow up. Like every comic book writer, the directors and writers are taking existing characters and putting their own spin on it. Only with comic books that's accepted, and in the movies it's sh*t on. The movies have to take 30 years of backstory and jam it into 2 hours. SORRY if they missed out on that one page from a comic book in 1978 that you liked.

These movies are supposed to be an escape for people to go and be taken away into a fantasy world for 2 hours. Normal people aren't in there criticizing every editing choice or some formula you THINK you know because you read reviews from people who aren't creative enough to make movies so they just tear them down. These movies don't deserve to bashed like they are. There are much worse movies that get praised because they fit the formula. Then fans of these movies get shafted because THEY like them, and want more, but because of dickheads, the movies start to flop, and we don't get to see more.

[NinjaPug]

The notion that this movie was made for fans and not critics is hilarious to me. People would be surprised at the number of critics that are comic book fans and geek culture in general.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

The notion that this movie was made for fans and not critics is hilarious to me. People would be surprised at the number of critics that are comic book fans and geek culture in general.

That notion comes off as insulting towards fans. It implies that we have low standards and that we'll accept crap.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by Purse Grabbin Puke

...you read reviews from people who aren't creative enough to make movies so they just tear them down.

That's ridiculous. Just because someone doesn't have the talent to make good cinema doesn't mean they shouldn't give their thoughts on the film, and whether it was good or bad.
I'm not a good cook but I certainly know when the food I'm eating tastes bad, or good.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Purse Grabbin Puke

That notion comes off as insulting towards fans. It implies that we have low standards and that we'll accept crap.

I don't think that's an unfair assessment. Fans want their preferred genre to thrive, so they'll forgive things pretty easily so we can guarantee the continuation of it down the line, or get something better after experiencing a raw deal, and because you have faith the characters you connect with can be put in virtually any bad situation and come out undamaged, they become "heroes" in a different sense because they've overcome the hurdles of lousy editing, executive meddling, and bad writing to connect with an audience.

Originally Posted by Purse Grabbin Puke

The normal movie goer does not give one sh*t about the things most movie critics (or wannabe movie snobs on this board) complain about. The story was pretty effing easy to follow, the editing was not jarring, the characters had good chemistry, and Harley Quinn was not over sexualized.

Some of my friends are pretty causal, did'nt know anything about the documented drama or cutting room floor edits, and guess what? They hated the movie also.

Just as I don't speak for you, nor should you speak for a particular group of people.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

That's ridiculous. Just because someone doesn't have the talent to make good cinema doesn't mean they shouldn't give their thoughts on the film, and whether it was good or bad.
I'm not a good cook but I certainly know when the food I'm eating tastes bad, or good.

Food is not art. The comparison of food critique vs movie critique does not fit here. Most reviewers are people who went to film school, learned about making movies, and never actually made a movie. Or if they did, the movie sucked and they gave up. Then they bust out their thesaurus, and try and jam as many adjectives as they can down the readers throat. Their failure or lack of trying in the movie industry is vomited up each movie review they write. We get to see why these fools aren't writing movies with each review we read. Then there are the youtubers. They get in front of their bookshelf filled with toys and scream at the camera telling you how awful the movies are. They steal their reviews from the aforementioned critics, removing a lot of structure and a lot more cursing. They follow the formula of Youtube reviewers, quick jump cuts to make their nonsense seem like it's a steady stream of consciousness when it's really just an hour of them rambling on, and reading their notes. Lucky for them editing software is easy to get these days. All these reviews are the same every time. It's annoying. I avoid reviews until after I've seen a movie, and most of the time I roll my eyes at the things these people complain about.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Some of my friends are pretty causal, did'nt know anything about the documented drama or cutting room floor edits, and guess what? They hated the movie also.

Just as I don't speak for you, nor should you speak for a particular group of people.

And that's fine, I don't expect everyone to like this movie. I just find it frustrating to read reviews that use "studio meddling" as a reason for a bad movie. There have been plenty of movies saved by studio meddling that you'll never hear about. But once these things get tossed in the rumor mill, it informs the critic or movie goer if they allow it. If your friends are just casual movie fans, or casual comic book movie fans, I can totally understand why they wouldn't like the movie. I'm merely attacking the people who bash movies based on reviews, or rumors and act like they KNOW the movie is bad because other people said so.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Purse Grabbin Puke

And that's fine, I don't expect everyone to like this movie. I just find it frustrating to read reviews that use "studio meddling" as a reason for a bad movie. There have been plenty of movies saved by studio meddling that you'll never hear about. But once these things get tossed in the rumor mill, it informs the critic or movie goer if they allow it. If your friends are just casual movie fans, or casual comic book movie fans, I can totally understand why they wouldn't like the movie. I'm merely attacking the people who bash movies based on reviews, or rumors and act like they KNOW the movie is bad because other people said so.

I've read theories about how that's tactical marketing in it's own right, drum up interest in the cut that the studios were "afraid of" and try to spin it as the one fans "deserve" and then when the movie hits the stores later with both cuts, profits are maximised and it earns more in that market.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by Purse Grabbin Puke

Most reviewers are people who went to film school, learned about making movies, and never actually made a movie. Or if they did, the movie sucked and they gave up. Then they bust out their thesaurus, and try and jam as many adjectives as they can down the readers throat. Their failure or lack of trying in the movie industry is vomited up each movie review they write. We get to see why these fools aren't writing movies with each review we read.

And what about the common man? I never went to film school, or have never made a successful film, and neither has 99% of the audience. I bet you haven't either. If they don't like a movie, are they too stupid to know what a good one is? Can only successful filmmakers offer commentary on what makes for a quality film and what doesn't?
And if that's the case, why bother giving the audience the film at all? Why not be like George Lucas and only make films as a hobby and for friends? After all, we lesser, unknowledgeable people don't know what a good film is! We're too busy with our noses in the thesaurus looking for words to express our excitement or distaste for a film.
Like I said: I'm not a cook, and I don't know what makes for good food (by the way, cooking/baking is a bit of an art to an extent) but I sure know what bad food tastes like. So does everyone else in the world. You don't need to be a world-famous chef to know when the food you're eating sucks.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by Purse Grabbin Puke

Then there are the youtubers. They get in front of their bookshelf filled with toys and scream at the camera telling you how awful the movies are. They steal their reviews from the aforementioned critics, removing a lot of structure and a lot more cursing. They follow the formula of Youtube reviewers, quick jump cuts to make their nonsense seem like it's a steady stream of consciousness when it's really just an hour of them rambling on, and reading their notes. Lucky for them editing software is easy to get these days. All these reviews are the same every time. It's annoying. I avoid reviews until after I've seen a movie, and most of the time I roll my eyes at the things these people complain about.

Very apt description. The thing about online reviewers is that they want clicks more than anything - I mean both for YouTubers and anyone who gets their revenue from an online presence. People are more likely to click on "Suicide Squad made my eyeballs bleed - CLICK HERE TO FIND OUT WHY!!!!" than "It's Not Perfect, But Suicide Squad Brings Unpredictable Fun to a Genre In Need Of It!" because one review is bound to be more filled with specific, clearly one-sided commentary. People don't like to think critically, and it's easier to enjoy a scathing review than a middling one.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

And what about the common man? I never went to film school, or have never made a successful film, and neither has 99% of the audience. I bet you haven't either. If they don't like a movie, are they too stupid to know what a good one is? Can only successful filmmakers offer commentary on what makes for a quality film and what doesn't?
Like I said: I'm not a cook, and I don't know what makes for good food (by the way, cooking/baking is a bit of an art to an extent) but I sure know what bad food tastes like. So does everyone else in the world. You don't need to be a world-famous chef to know when the food you're eating sucks.

It's a free country and anyone can say what they want. It's the power that's given to a certain group of people that bugs me. These people are given power. Movies are going to be loved and hated. It's the people who take reviews as gospel, who won't even see the movie, and fight with people, claiming they KNOW it's bad because Angry Bob screamed about it on youtube. Those people who would rather take a critic's word as final instead of forming their own opinion. They are giving power to people that don't deserve it. And I'm much more likely to accept a director's review of a movie over a review of someone who hasn't tried. I am no professional when it comes to movies. I watch a lot of movies, and if I give my opinion on a movie it's just that, my opinion. I keep it as short as possible. I liked it, or I didn't. I'm not trying to fill a 4,000 word article for my tumblr page.

[CyberCubed]

Jared Leto flat out said he was angered that so many of his Joker scenes were cut. This isn't speculation, the actor flat out confirmed it. If you also look at the trailers many of those Joker scenes are not in the movie.

After Batman/Superman was released with nearly an hour of new footage on blu-ray that was cut from theaters, is it really so unbelieveable the same happened to this movie?

[MikeandRaph87]

The legs of Suicide Squad are being called into question because a drop occurred on Saturday, the total was projected to be 142 million is now about 135.5 million. It appears there was a large group who wanted to see it saw it immediately on Thursday night through Friday. If it is to have legs those of us in that group need to tell our friends random comic book made into a movie is actually quite engaging.
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/39-suic...748667446.html

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

The legs of Suicide Squad are being called into question because a drop occurred on Saturday, the total was projected to be 142 million is now about 135.5 million. It appears there was a large group who wanted to see it saw it immediately on Thursday night through Friday. If it is to have legs those of us in that group need to tell our friends random comic book made into a movie is actually quite engaging.
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/39-suic...748667446.html

This is where the bad reviews come into play. These movies will typically always be critic proof on the front end and have huge openings on Thursday and Friday.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Purse Grabbin Puke

they KNOW it's bad because Angry Bob screamed about it on youtube.

I don't know if you meant Angry Joe or Movie Bob there. bit if the former, Joe actually liked Suicide Squad. Movie Bob on the other hand did'nt.

[CyberCubed]

How much does the movie have to make to break even? Are we looking at another Ghostbusters or TMNT situation here?