Supposedly Someone Who Has Read The Script Had This To Say About It

[CyberCubed]

I hope to god nothing from this script makes it into the final movie.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by Bob

Please don't say that. The script isn't fake.

I think It very well may be real. It certainly matches up with what people who have claimed to read the script have said. I'm just wondering how you know for sure?

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Should we spread the script around other forums and movie sites? Maybe if we do and they don't like that their script is out there a year before it comes out they would try to change it, or at least rewrite the bad parts.

Someone already put a review up on CBR. Strangely it got marked as satire.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=66234

[CyberCubed]

Is Shredder even played by a Japanese man in this? I know he's an alien but he still has a human actor.

[Gyt Kaliba]

...So this is what an aneurism feels like. Huh. .__o

[ComicBookBoy]

I hope the movie isn't really like that. It's Dragonball Evolution all over again.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by The Ninjinister

I think someone is randomly tagging threads with that just to be a troll.

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/tags.php?tag=gay

Out of all of these I think maaaayyybe two have any actual discussion on gayness.

Yeah, I think that tag started as a forum joke and it's spiraled out of a control from there. I still don't find it funny, either.

I love having forum Tags, but I hate poor tagging and blatant tag abuse.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Is Shredder even played by a Japanese man in this? I know he's an alien but he still has a human actor.

Its a script.

[sgtfbomb]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Is Shredder even played by a Japanese man in this? I know he's an alien but he still has a human actor.

As far as I know, there's been no casting decisions made for this movie. If there were, they haven't been made public yet. In this incarnation, the Shredder isn't Japanese. You could say he was more along the lines of the Shredder from the 2003 animated series. Except that he's not a Utrom. Here, he's an alien disguised as a Colonel in the army. I do think they need to change/tweak this aspect. This whole facade is to get to Substation 16. However, it serves little purpose later on when his "superior," General Davies, a fairly pointless character in the scheme of things, shows up later. I almost feel like they could modernize Shredder without going the Col. Schrader route.

Yeah, it sucks when they do something terrible with something you like, but it isn't worth making a deal about. If you peel away the nostalgia of the original animated series, it really wasn't that great either, and Turtles 3 was a travesty. And Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation...The point is, this wouldn't even be the first terrible Ninja Turtles adaption, and yet, it isn't terrible, nor has it even been made yet. Nor is it anywhere near being made yet.

From what I understand, Paramount hasn't received a script they are satisfied with, and they want to drop the budget down a bit. And, if the film doesn't enter production anytime soon, I'd imagine Jonathan Liebesman might end up moving on to something else. (Though, I probably wouldn't mind that) Also, there was a major uproar about the Turtles being aliens. I'm sure the powers that be are contemplating whether or not to keep those elements in the script. Personally, I didn't mind the alien part in the script, but I hated the prophecy elements. They were a bit contrived, and abrupt. I never care for forced prophecies and destinies in films. In the real world, things happen because that's the way they happen. They are the result of circumstances and consequences of a long line of actions and decision made by you and, sometimes, even those around you. There is no prophetical aligning destinies and all that hogwash. So, that scene where the Turtles get their weapons for the first time is a bit nonsensical and overplayed in the screenplay...

...but, it's not without repair! There are even entertaining bits in the screenplay. It could use more personality and needs to be rounded out more. I also think that maybe they could make it a bit more serious, making Shredder, Krang, Bebop, and Rocksteady competent and terrifying. I also think they need to take April and Casey's relationship problems down a few notches. And, some of the jokes need to go. For example, there is a dumb joke at the end of the screenplay with a sexy turtle chick.

[Bossa Nova]

I wasn't as involved in the community when the last TMNT film came about, but I'm just curious, was there this much whining and moaning when info was leaked about it as well? Or was it kept so tightly under wraps there was no opportunity to do so?

[Tinuvielsdreams]

Originally Posted by sgtfbomb

I think it was going to be reworked anyway. Screenplays usually go through many changes before it gets to what you see in the final film. And for big budget tentpole flicks, they tend to go through many screenwriters and script doctors, most of which go uncredited. Dialogue will removed/smoothed out, possibly by an uncredited scriptwriter, hired specifically to spiff up the dialogue some more. And, things will most likely be made up on the spot and during storyboarding and "pre-viz."

It's ideal for most of the kinks to be ironed out before the film hits production, hopefully this is what Paramount is drying to do. I know the domestic failure of Universal's Battleship scared the studio into taking a second look at GI Joe 2. So hopefully, studios are starting to realize that you can't just rip-off Transformers and expect people to show up. Even I thought Battleship would make decent money and I didn't even want to see it.

Screenwriting in Hollywood is a bit of a joke nowadays, anyway. It's not that writers don't try, it's that independent writers (even some who write fan screenplays) try harder to make their scripts coherent and final, whereas, in Hollywood, on high profile projects, it'll probably change. They say never to blame the writer more than the director, and that is true. If this movie is a stinker, it's probably because the director doesn't know how to take a generic screenplay and make it into something better than just a "made on an assembly line" product.

I agree hugely with the "assembly line" It is all formula first then sometimes if we are lucky they go in and add and subtract. I can just hope down the line this might catch the eye of someone who really cares to give it the extra oomf

I am grateful turtles are getting a chance, I think the only thing about the studio and Bay I can get behind is the budget potential but in a perfect world I'd have much different picks. We all know soley money itself doesn't equal great film

[Digital Ghost]

Good lord, this sounds like it'd be as good as Street Fighter.
In fact, I'd rather watch The Next Mutation.

[the_minimizer]

I changed my perspective and decided to treat this as an upcoming non-TMNT film. They're not teenagers and they're not mutants. TMNT does not equal NT.

[Walkabout]

Originally Posted by Jester

Dude, this is an early draft. We don't know how much of this will actually be used.

However if it is used, then by all mean, torches and pitch forks.

Torches and pitch forks indeed.

[Xav]

Peter Laird has read the script.

Someone else alerted me to the existence of this script, and I just a few minutes ago finished reading it. If it is, in fact, the actual draft that was rejected and caused the production of the next TMNT movie to be pushed back to 2014 because the script was unsatisfactory, then I think all true TMNT fans should be grateful to the new "powers that be" that they did not allow this wretched thing to go any further. It could definitely be taken as a good sign if that is the case.

It reminds me of one of the reasons I am glad to not own the property anymore... because I don't have to tear what little hair I have left out while trying to fix junk like this. -- PL

http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....l#comment-form

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Xav

Peter Laird has read the script.

http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....l#comment-form

I sent him a message on facebook while I was reading it, but I'm sure others let him know too.

[sgtfbomb]

Originally Posted by the_minimizer

I changed my perspective and decided to treat this as an upcoming non-TMNT film. They're not teenagers and they're not mutants. TMNT does not equal NT.

Actually, they are still teenagers. They are 17 years old. But, I wouldn't mind a film where the Turtles are older, more competent and wiser, perhaps having battled the Shredder, maybe even dealing with the deal of Splinter. Blasphemy? Perhaps, but it would be a bit different. Maybe it could be a vague sequel to the first film. Or not, either way, that won't be happening.

Basically, look at the screenplay as if the writers never knew about the comic books or the movies, only the original animated series. And look at it like the GI Joe and Transformer movies; how they translated those properties into film. Eh, currently, I'd say it is as flawed as those films were. I did like the first Transformers film, but I wouldn't say this screenplay (if official, and obviously changed by now anyway) is even on that film's level. I think it be better, but I think they might have to drop a few elements, and add a bit depth and atmosphere to make something that is definitive.

[Logan]

If it's the real script (which I doubt), it's either a discarded one or one that is about to be discarded.

[gzilla46]

What is Michael Bay thinking? He should just stick to Transformers. At least those were actually good films in my opinion. WHY? Because they actually stayed true to the Transformers for the most part. Because they stayed robots that turned into cars and fight each other.

This, on the other hand, is nothing like the original? Has Bay gone mad.

[CyberCubed]

Hopefully the new scripts takes virtually nothing from this one. I just don't understand how a movie could be so different from the source material when the Nick cartoon and IDW comics play true to the series roots despite some changes.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Xav

Peter Laird has read the script.

http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....l#comment-form

The only response you really need.