Supposedly Someone Who Has Read The Script Had This To Say About It

[CyberCubed]

The show is airing on Nickelodeon which is the most watched kids channel in the U.S. Giving it star treatment it's almost guaranteed to be successful.

The 4kids series lasted 7 years airing on an obscure Saturday morning block that nobody watched and with poor toy sales. If that series lasted 7 years I am sure a heavily promoted show by Nick will be much bigger.

The movie failing makes an impact with the adult crowd.

[PAAATE]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The show is airing on Nickelodeon which is the most watched kids channel in the U.S. Giving it star treatment it's almost guaranteed to be successful.

The 4kids series lasted 7 years airing on an obscure Saturday morning block that nobody watched and with poor toy sales. If that series lasted 7 years I am sure a heavily promoted show by Nick will be much bigger.

The movie failing makes an impact with the adult crowd.

Like I said - I don't think it'll fail.

While I'm sure they wouldn't mind drawing lots and lots of adults to the movies (something I think the leaked script proves), the adults aren't necessary for the franchise; the kids are.

Let's take a look at that other Nick franchise that made a movie - The Last Airbender. That movie didn't turn a profit until four months after its release, and that's really not desirable for a movie that cost 150 million dollars to make. And the profit isn't big or anything. While it's technically not a failure... Yeah, they see it as a failure.

Still, they made a sequel to the popular show, and that sequel's going strong and everyone's happy, despite the movie more or less failing.

If the TMNT movie fails it will turn off casuals, yes, but it won't damage the brand. It won't help it either, obviously, but it won't damage it. Worst case scenario when it comes to interest in the brand is a status quo, and that's not too bad.

[ZariusTwo]

Reading the script and...yeah, there's teething problems, trying to play up to too many audiences though, but there's some good ideas in there, like The Foot being a military unit, and Raph being the wise-cracker he was in the FW 'toon rather than the boring angsty cynic he is in the comics and 4Kids show is always a welcome treat.

Bebop and Rocksteady have a great dynamic too.

It reads a little too much like fanfiction, like everything that an adolescent fanboy dreams about doing with this show but common sense really ought to prevent them from doing (coughTurtleTurncoatcough)

...Oh, and "Eyef*cks" is my new fave word.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Reading the script and...yeah, there's teething problems, trying to play up to too many audiences though, but there's some good ideas in there, like The Foot being a military unit, and Raph being the wise-cracker he was in the FW 'toon rather than the boring angsty cynic he is in the comics and 4Kids show is always a welcome treat.

I don't know, Raph was both a hothead and and a wise-cracker, a lot like his 4Kids counterpart.

[Bob]

I thought one of the things they got right was the personalities of each of the Turtles.

[the_minimizer]

Originally Posted by sgtfbomb

Actually, they are still teenagers. They are 17 years old. But, I wouldn't mind a film where the Turtles are older, more competent and wiser, perhaps having battled the Shredder, maybe even dealing with the deal of Splinter. Blasphemy? Perhaps, but it would be a bit different. Maybe it could be a vague sequel to the first film. Or not, either way, that won't be happening.

Basically, look at the screenplay as if the writers never knew about the comic books or the movies, only the original animated series. And look at it like the GI Joe and Transformer movies; how they translated those properties into film. Eh, currently, I'd say it is as flawed as those films were. I did like the first Transformers film, but I wouldn't say this screenplay (if official, and obviously changed by now anyway) is even on that film's level. I think it be better, but I think they might have to drop a few elements, and add a bit depth and atmosphere to make something that is definitive.

They're ANT instead of TMNT where NT has taken on a life of it's own. They removed one attribute and created a spinoff with the Next Mutation (MNT). The script is describing another spinoff, Alien Ninja Turtles (ANT).

[Jester]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

It reads a little too much like fanfiction, like everything that an adolescent fanboy dreams about doing with this show but common sense really ought to prevent them from doing (coughTurtleTurncoatcough)

Oh, come on. Turtle Turncoat is far and away better than this crap...

[Slade]

Originally Posted by Bob

I thought one of the things they got right was the personalities of each of the Turtles.

All but Mikey, I didn't really get any kind of personality from Mikey at all. Unless I just didn't see it.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by Jester

Dude, this is an early draft. We don't know how much of this will actually be used.

However if it is used, then by all mean, torches and pitch forks.

Trust me the final draft isn't any better.
http://www.funnyordie.com/pictures/6...-ninja-turtles

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Xav

Trust me the final draft isn't any better.
http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/ima...8_original.jpg

Either you're gullible or have no sense of humor....

[Xav]

Apparently your both.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Xav

Peter Laird has read the script.

http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....l#comment-form

Ha! I just read that and was gonna post it but then I figured somebody else probably beat me to the punch!

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

It reads a little too much like fanfiction, like everything that an adolescent fanboy dreams about doing with this show but common sense really ought to prevent them from doing (coughTurtleTurncoatcough)

Aw, com'on Zarius! Even you recently admitted that the comic has gotten a lot better since it began in 2001! And remember, way back then we fans had very few incarnations of the TMNT for our imaginations to play with.

[Koi]

It doesn't sound that bad at all, so far from what I read it is pretty good.

Edit:
Never mind.

[Sophie Campbell]

pretty much total garbage.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Ross Campbell

pretty much total garbage.

And here is another opinion I can respect. If anyone knows good Turtles, it's Ross.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Ross Campbell

pretty much total garbage.

Makes you wish the Nick and IDW writers would slap the movie scriptwriters upside the head.

[Sophie Campbell]

Originally Posted by Jester

And here is another opinion I can respect. If anyone knows good Turtles, it's Ross.

aw, thanks!! that means a lot.

i'll admit, though, i gotta come clean, but when i first skimmed the script i was like "well, the new origin is stupid and generic but some of the action seems cool and the characterization is passable, but it's not TERRIBLE in and of itself if you can just let go of your TMNT expectations..." but then out of some morbid masochistic fascination i kept going back to the script file and reading more and more throughout the day in more detail. each time i'd find something stupider and more awful until i reached my "total garbage" conclusion, haha. the characterization is crap (Raph's Kung Fu Panda line, ugh), Casey giving the Turtles' their colored masks is stupid, the masks don't make much sense as it is so any attempt to explain them makes them make LESS sense, the whole Splinter lying to them for no reason about their backstory, the magical orbs, Colonel Schrader, the snowmobile scene (?!), the Turtles deflecting bullets off their shells including a part where they use an unconscious Michelangelo as a shield, the Turtle Warrior, the Turtles' turtle parents being killed by Krang, the baby turtle trainees at the end... it's so stupid. it's crap as a regular movie, it brings nothing new to the table, and it's even more crap as a TMNT movie.

and this is coming from a guy who doesn't like drawing conclusions until the finished product because execution and tone are everything, even the stupidest ideas can be done well and surprise you. and everything pretty much sounds dumb at first, especially for properties like TMNT where we all have our own visions for the characters and concepts we hold onto. so maybe the movie will be amazing, maybe when it comes out we'll all be going "wow, the Turtles should have been aliens all along! Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles without mutants, ninjas or turtles is great!" but at the end of the day the script still blows and a crappy, bland, paint-by-numbers script is no way to start a big movie production.

all that said, though, i can't really muster much energy to care, the movie was barely even on my radar before this script leak. they could never make more TMNT stuff at all and i'd be content with the wealth of great stuff we already have. plus the new Nickelodeon show looks stellar so far and the IDW book is going great, who cares about the movie? and yeah i realize the irony of me saying that while posting in the TMNT movie thread.

[CyberCubed]

Again, the problem is EVERYONE sees a movie. So many casual fans who never pick up a comic or see the cartoon will see the movie.

It'll be like, "Batman and Robin" for the TMNT franchise, a complete bastardization of the franchise.

[Sophie Campbell]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Again, the problem is EVERYONE sees a movie. So many casual fans who never pick up a comic or see the cartoon will see the movie.

It'll be like, "Batman and Robin" for the TMNT franchise, a complete bastardization of the franchise.

yeah but who cares? who cares what they think? the good TMNT stuff will still be good, why does it matter if John Q. Public or whatever sees the new TMNT movie? it won't affect the new show, the new comic, and definitely not the good older material. i don't see why it matters. Batman & Robin didn't make the good Batman stuff stupider, Batman's doing just fine.

[Jester]

Ross Campbell: Voice of Reason.