New Smash Bros for 3ds and Wii U

[Peanut]

I'm going to say the leaked roster is the entire thing and there's nothing else hidden from those ESRB videos. The Japanese commercial seems to imply there are "over 40" characters. The leak roster had 47 or something. I don't expect more.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1

It's well established that Sakurai likes the Star Fox series. Even the new Kid Icarus game started life as a Star Fox game, before he thought Kid Icarus would work better with the mechanics used. And it's also well known that Falco was originally intended to be Wolf in Melee, but Sakurai chose Falco because he's more aesthetically different to Wolf.

He also considered dropping Ness from Melee and adding Lucas in his place. His team Hal Laboratory helped develope some of the Mother games.

Again, mate, you're just saying things. Show me evidence.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1

If the Ice Climbers are cut, I think it's because of the 3DS, and if that is the case then Sakurai lied. He said the 3DS would not affect things, but we have already lost transformations. Maybe the 3DS can't handle so many models on screen at ones.

I jdo find it so odd that the Ice climbers Lucas and Wolf are cut, since he's Sakurai fav Star Fox character, and he loves the Earthbound series and personally made sure Lucas made brawl.

Sakurai's choices are insane. Cutting Wolf, Lucas and Ice Climbers but bringing Dr. Mario back? And adding Dark Pit?

I really feel this is the worst batch of newcomers in a while. It's like he went with obscure or Japanese-centric characters this time around instead of making fan favorites playable.

We're 4 Smashes in and Donkey Kong and Metroid only have two playable characters. Whereas Fire Emblem gets 4 and Kid Icarus 3. Absolutely insane.

[The Stryker]

There's no way you can honestly say it's the worst batch of newcomers when that batch includes Megaman and the goddamned Pac-Man.

Oh right. Your boner for Dixie.

[CyberCubed]

Well aside from the third party characters. My only hyped character so far is Little Mac and I like Rosalina and Palutena, I'm meh on everyone else.

Wii Fit Trainer is such a waste of development time. Unlike Duck Hunt Dog there's no nostalgic value to it and the novelty will wear off fast. I'm also meh on the Fire Emblem characters and Shulk.

It's a shame the newcomers seem so boring this time. When Brawl was coming out I was always blown away when they revealed someone for the first time.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Well aside from the third party characters. My only hyped character so far is Little Mac and I like Rosalina and Palutena, I'm meh on everyone else.

Wii Fit Trainer is such a waste of development time. Unlike Duck Hunt Dog there's no nostalgic value to it and the novelty will wear off fast. I'm also meh on the Fire Emblem characters and Shulk.

It's a shame the newcomers seem so boring this time. When Brawl was coming out I was always blown away when they revealed someone for the first time.

I see where your coming from, but the Wii fit game is such a massive game, and Smash is kinda all about nintendo's history. Wii fit sold so many copies and having the trainer kinda celebrates Nintendo's modern achievements. Mix that with old school stuff like Duck hunt, you get something for everyone.

Have faith, there is still DLC, so maybe some of your wanted characters will make it in the long run.

Dixie may still be in, she's highly request in the West, and in th top 5 in Japan.

I ve learnt that with these mixed roster games not to be to worried about what your not getting and enjoy what your given.
Marvel vs Capcom 3 is a classic case of that, I hate the Marvel side of that roster, but the game is still great.

Very few games in this day and age are made to the high standard and quality of Smash.

[Donatello19]

Although I have no knowledge of Shulk or what games he's from (Fire Emblem?) he still looks pretty cool. But why was he shown with no clothes on at one point in the trailer...?

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

Although I have no knowledge of Shulk or what games he's from (Fire Emblem?) he still looks pretty cool. But why was he shown with no clothes on at one point in the trailer...?

Xenoblade Chronicles, which I only was aware of the title and nothing else about before everyone started saying he "needed" to be in Smash. All of the mentions of Shulk made me wonder why there was such a camp for a Marvel character in Smash Bros.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

Although I have no knowledge of Shulk or what games he's from (Fire Emblem?) he still looks pretty cool. But why was he shown with no clothes on at one point in the trailer...?

Shulk is from Xenoblade. Which is getting a 3DS port soon so it may be worth checking out.

[sdp]

Like I mentioned earlier, I'm satisfied with the leaked roster being final as is. Any characters I want can wait for the next Smash.

So, whose getting the 3DS version? I'll be waiting for the Wii U version, they seem to be pretty much the same game sadly. I would've preferred more differences between the two, right now the 3DS version feels like a "portable" version of the console games which is what old portable games used to be, but I much preferred the original made for portable versions that started later in the Gameboy's life.

[Cure]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

Although I have no knowledge of Shulk or what games he's from (Fire Emblem?) he still looks pretty cool. But why was he shown with no clothes on at one point in the trailer...?

You can make Shulk walk around in his underoos in the game.

It's offensive because he's making Shulk over sexualized.

[Peanut]

I can't believe people are still whining about the meaningless cuts. People get so sickeningly attached to characters in Smash that it's pretty pathetic.

Like I said before, Lucas was the closest thing to a "main" I had in Brawl. He was my best/most played character by an incredible amount. Yet, if he's cut I don't care. Why is it that I can be OK with losing my favourite character and still be incredibly hyped for Smash 4 and the new additions? Why are people seriously lamenting the loss of WOLF? Or even Ice Climbers? Why? I don't get the obsession with "veteran status" people have for these stupid characters. And I played a lot of Ice Climbers in Melee and Brawl! Why is it such a big deal!? It's a roster of nearly 50 characters, but a few cuts and a lack of inclusions kill the game for people? Are they 5? Are they autistic like CyberCubed and totally unable to detach themselves from sh*t like this? I don't get it.

[Ninjinister]

I'm boycotting Smash if Sonichu's not in.

[Cure]

Originally Posted by Peanut

I can't believe people are still whining about the meaningless cuts. People get so sickeningly attached to characters in Smash that it's pretty pathetic.

Like I said before, Lucas was the closest thing to a "main" I had in Brawl. He was my best/most played character by an incredible amount. Yet, if he's cut I don't care. Why is it that I can be OK with losing my favourite character and still be incredibly hyped for Smash 4 and the new additions? Why are people seriously lamenting the loss of WOLF? Or even Ice Climbers? Why? I don't get the obsession with "veteran status" people have for these stupid characters. And I played a lot of Ice Climbers in Melee and Brawl! Why is it such a big deal!? It's a roster of nearly 50 characters, but a few cuts and a lack of inclusions kill the game for people? Are they 5? Are they autistic like CyberCubed and totally unable to detach themselves from sh*t like this? I don't get it.

Seriously, just check out how over attached the artist of this comic is.

Spoiler:

[Peanut]

Oh my god. Just shut it all the f*ck down. I quit.

[Ninjinister]

“Companies that release products that target a very vocal, visible group of gamers tend to receive good reactions and they may feel good about it, but I think that we have to pay special attention to the less vocal, not so visible group of players, or else games will just fade away,” Sakurai explains. This is a sentiment that is often voiced by many other designers that work internally at Nintendo as well.

Considering how many complaints I've seen overall about "cut characters" and specific non-existent newcomers, I'd say that those who dgaf are the minority in this case.

[CyberCubed]

Characters should never be cut unless they're clones (which is why barely anyone cared that Roy, Pichu and Dr. Mario didn't return in Brawl), or licensing issues (Snake), or can't stand on their own (Squirtle/Ivysaur without Charizard)

These characters also had unique movesets. We're losing 6 unique characters.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

We're losing 6 unique characters.

Lucas isn't unique.

[Donatello19]

Geez, I didn't think anyone would really care that much about Lucas being cut.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

Lucas isn't unique.

He has some unique moves. If you want to research it, you can go to Smashboards or type in, "Is Lucas a Ness clone?" on google and read the discussions.