Sony Pictures Entertainment Brings Marvel Studios Into The Amazing World Of Spider-Ma

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

Are you serious?? There have been many legacy characters that weren't related and had the same superpower incident.

why are you singling out Miles??

ya know what ticks me off...you're so quick to diss Miles....do you even know what Miles can do for people?

Miles has the ability to be representation for a little black kid who has always loved Spider-man but was told he couldn't be one because he wasn't white by other kids. You don't think it happens? It happens! I helped at a kindergarten and those kids are ruthless sometimes.

It angers me that fanboys/girls are so nit-picky and protective of their "original" heroes even though they have been here FOREVER that literally giving someone else the spotlight, someone that could actually change the world is too crazy a thought.

"why can't he be another NEW hero"

cause....we will NEVER get a chance to see some random new hero on the big screen. Its HARD enough to get a popular black hero (or any minority) on the big screen so don't even start!

REALLY?! Name them. All the "Legacy" characters are such because they were the FIRST, and because they actually have a long, rich history. Iron-Man BUILT his own suits. All the others copied his designs. The other Spider-characters all had different origins (and one is his kid, most of the others are his CLONES) and do we REALLY need ANOTHER Spider-based character, anyway? It's like all the Super-Man wanna-bes in DC. Hulk is the only one who really had others with the same "origin" (basically, all just exposed to gamma rays) but that's a pretty simple one, and not hard to duplicate. There was even an "undead" Hulk named Digger. (He only appeared ONCE. In Spider-Man's book, oddly enough.) But his origin was: dead mobsters' bodies exposed to radioactive chemicals in a dump site, brought back to life and.... That one's weird.

Urgh, it's not like we haven't seen plenty of "random" black heroes in comics or on the big screen. Black Panther has had an animated film, and is touted to show up in the MCU Avengers, we've already had Falcon- FALCON of all people!- in Cap 2, Storm in at least THREE X-Men movies (I haven't seen DOFP) and Blade. Nick Fury, for another. (But Hasselhoff did it first, ha!) Do we REALLY need Spider-Man to be black now, too??!! These are characters that were CREATED that way. As in- ORIGINAL.

And Miles won't "change the world" any more than a black Johnny Storm will. He's the torch-bearer to another, better-known character, and no more or less than that. At BEST, he will always be an "also ran". I don't know about you, but to me, that's a pretty crappy reason to remember a character. The whole point of why people are fans of these characters is because they relate to them on a deeper level than skin-tone, anyway. So, yes, fans DO get ticked if the newbie comes along and starts getting the focus from the one who was there FIRST. Because it's just silly to start changing every character into something they were never created to be. If Stan Lee had wanted Spider-Man to be black, he'd have made Peter that way to begin with. He chose to make him as ordinary as possible. And guess what? In the sixties, that meant plain old white boy. And that's exactly how he should stay. Because anything else is just change for the sake of being "edgy and modern".

Kids can dress up as any friggin character they want, because they know it's make-believe, and that character is whatever they WANT them to be when they dress up. And Halloween is ONE day out of the year- kids aren't dressing up as these characters every day, unless they are just THAT nuts about them, and then I doubt they would care what others think or say to them. You don't even need NEW heroes for this, there are already plenty of them that already exist and haven't even been tapped yet! Shoot, while we're at it, let's make HULK black. Since he turns green anyway, it's not like anyone will care what race HE is. He could be Latino, and who'd notice? No one ever remembers what he looks like OUTSIDE of his Hulk-form. Why do we have to keep race-bending existing heroes, when there are others standing right beside them that already fit your racial mold? FF's Johnny Storm is black now, apparently. Even though there is NO good reason for it, other than "we need more black/Asian/etc. heroes".

We have Native American heroes in Thunderbird, Dani Moonstar (female, I might add), and others. We have Mirage, Psylocke, and Sunspot for Asian heroes (also all X-Men), we have Latino heroes like Cannonball and Arana.... The list goes on- there are even Hindu and Middle Eastern ones- and ALL of them have existed for at least five-ten years or more! Spike, Prodigy, etc. I could pull out my Marvel Encyclopedia and list dozens, but I won't, because you see what I'm getting at. They may not be as BIG as Spidey, but there are MORE than enough minority heroes without race-bending those that have existed for decades. It's just a straw-man argument, because the entire basis of it is "we need more___", which is false, because they already exist. So WHAT if Spider-Man is Peter Parker? He's a CHARACTER, not just a set of powers in a suit. Iron-Man could be ANYBODY, in theory, but it's Tony Stark who MAKES that character interesting. Not the suit. IT's not Cap's abilities that make him interesting, either. It's his CHARACTER. The MAN in the suit, not the suit itself. And I'm not even going to get into the whole Bucky-Cap thing.....

Basically, you're arguing that ANYONE could "be" Spider-Man, if they have the costume and some spider-like abilities. Not true. Characters are NOT their powers alone. If you want a different ethnicity for Spidey, fine. We've had that for years- in 2099. Miguel O'Hara is mixed race. And his character makes more sense than a blatant rip-off in the SAME TIME-PERIOD with the SAME EXACT origin as Spidey. It's pandering, pure and simple. And unnecessary. Also mildly annoying, and insulting to the character that came fist.