Are you guys happy that the new film is getting a sequel?

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

Do you guys think it is better or worse than TMNT 3? And why?

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=48791

try this thread.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

Do you guys think it is better or worse than TMNT 3? And why?

Not to go too off topic, but I always enjoy answering this question. I think it's worse than the third film based on the fact that TMNT 3 is very much this franchise's version of Batman & Robin. There was so little creativity that went into the making of it and everything from the plot to the puppetry to the acting is so cookie cutter & lame that there's something charming about it. I think enough time has passed that people can laugh at TMNT and take it for what it was. It's just a bad movie that's made more enjoyable when drinking with friends and laughing at it. Seriously, the Turtles look terrible in it.

This movie however is a big budget machine with a lot of star power and motivation behind it to create something substantial, but it's lack of cohesive plot...bad character development and motivation...and what almost appears to be apprehension of playing by the rules of it's world makes the 2014 movie a bigger failure in my eyes.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by massakre

Perhaps.. but the end result of the movie that was released wasnt great either because of outcries for changes too late in the process of a movie that was already in post-production. The point Im making here is that now since they've established the tone, the cast and the universe for the future installment(s), there's no need to go and do extensive rewrites.

I do agree that I probably would've disliked the Col Schraeder/Turtle race, etc.. but to change everything so late in the game, hindered what could've been. They can fix a lot of the issues from this first movie by addressing them in the sequel.. but it'll take some genius writing to do that and hopefully they find that genius somehow, somewhere.

But that's sort of the thing. Even with reacting to those complaints, there's no reason for them to have gone so overboard like they did, but we're talking about a production team that doesn't know the concept of subtle.

Hell, look at Iron Man 3's follow up All Hail the King. The same basic concept with Saki extracting Sacks after he dishonored the Foot Clan in a mid or post credits scene would have allowed them to maintain their film without reshooting into a disjointed mess while still establishing what fans were looking for regarding the promise of a "real" Shredder instead of robo-whitewash-Shredder.

As for finding that genius? I just don't see it. Same nitwits writing the sequel.

I swear their answer to a bee sting on the finger would be to amputate the arm. Everything in this film and its design and production was "kick it to 11!"

Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL

Not to go too off topic, but I always enjoy answering this question. I think it's worse than the third film based on the fact that TMNT 3 is very much this franchise's version of Batman & Robin. There was so little creativity that went into the making of it and everything from the plot to the puppetry to the acting is so cookie cutter & lame that there's something charming about it. I think enough time has passed that people can laugh at TMNT and take it for what it was. It's just a bad movie that's made more enjoyable when drinking with friends and laughing at it. Seriously, the Turtles look terrible in it.

This movie however is a big budget machine with a lot of star power and motivation behind it to create something substantial, but it's lack of cohesive plot...bad character development and motivation...and what almost appears to be apprehension of playing by the rules of it's world makes the 2014 movie a bigger failure in my eyes.

Last time I watched III, I was surprised that I actually didn't find it to be as horrible as I remembered. Try "watching" it while you're doing something else. Clean the house, do dishes, just something that lets you glance now and then, but mostly listen to it more than watch it. There's something underneath all the mess with that movie, a lot of which is distracting by the plummet in quality on the animatronic costumes. At least, in my opinion.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

Do you guys think it is better or worse than TMNT 3? And why?

Worse.

TMNT III had the characters as the primary focus and got that the characters weren't all one note caricatures and tried to flesh them out. Saccharin as the character with an attitude bonding with a child or Mike falling for a lady and so on it worked to set up a dilemma of whether the turtles should stay in the past. It wasn't much but it was there.

I'd also say that the story makes sense. True there's a few contrivances but and it's a very basic time travel story and not much else but it all flows smoothly.

You can't make those claims about the 2014 movie.

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

But that's sort of the thing. Even with reacting to those complaints, there's no reason for them to have gone so overboard like they did, but we're talking about a production team that doesn't know the concept of subtle.

I actually think there's a attempt to by defenders of the '14 movie to pin all of it's flaws on the the changes made to appease the fans so. Thus if we think it's a bad product then it's "our" fault.

However while the movie might have flowed better if they'd kept Sacks as the Shredder in all honestly it seems disjointed in other aspects unrelated to the Shredder's identity that I'd wager they changed themselves since fans were unaware of these things.

For example was the mutagen made to create living weapons or was made to be a cure for this disease? Both seem incompatible but both claims are made in the movie. (Certainly the guy from Latino review said that the former was a big theme of the movie when he visited the set with the Foot creating super soldiers.)

A rather huge flaw for me was after the raid on the lair Raphael goes to rescue his brothers with Splinter near death with his fate uncertain. The next scene it seems as if Raphael believes Splinter will be fine. That seems a bit of a disconnect but okay. Then during the rescue of his brothers not only is Splinter back to being at death's door again but it was their mission all along to get some mutagen to save his life. Where did this come from?

It seems they shot two versions of this part of the movie. One were Splinter is dying and they have to race against the clock for a cure to save his life and another were he's only injured and Raph is just trying to save his brothers. They edited together to form an incomprehensible mush.

And this is before taking into account that Raph seems to leave Splinter a bit too easily. Surely he's take him to a safe place rather than leaving him in the ruins of the lair knowing it's location is compromised. How exactly do they know mutagen will save him? Doesn't he have mutagen in his system already? Wouldn't more mutagen mutate him further?

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Galactus

I actually think there's a attempt to by defenders of the '14 movie to pin all of it's flaws on the the changes made to appease the fans so. Thus if we think it's a bad product then it's "our" fault.

Yeah, I've noticed that a bit in some cases. If people want to defend the movie for what it is, fine... But to try to blame fans for however it turned out as if the problems with it were simple and the makers are akin to infallible deities for bringing TMNT to the screen...

Imperfect humans making an imperfect movie isn't anything surprising, nor a crime.... that's life. But they could at least been a bit more aware of what they were doing (or getting into) from the get-go.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Yeah, I've noticed that a bit in some cases. If people want to defend the movie for what it is, fine... But to try to blame fans for however it turned out as if the problems with it were simple and the makers are akin to infallible deities for bringing TMNT to the screen...

Imperfect humans making an imperfect movie isn't anything surprising, nor a crime.... that's life. But they could at least been a bit more aware of what they were doing (or getting into) from the get-go.

It was a mistake making it Finchner/roboshredder in the first place. Just like it was a mistake making him Colonel Schroeder at first. It was a mistake trying to shoe-horn this random character into the movie at all? Couldn't he have been one of the government villains in Transformers 4 if he needed work that badly?

Why in the hell, didn't they cast this hardcore Shredder that they did get in the first place? Those 2 short scenes of him were better than most of the film.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Originally Posted by Galactus

I actually think there's a attempt to by defenders of the '14 movie to pin all of it's flaws on the the changes made to appease the fans so. Thus if we think it's a bad product then it's "our" fault.

However while the movie might have flowed better if they'd kept Sacks as the Shredder in all honestly it seems disjointed in other aspects unrelated to the Shredder's identity that I'd wager they changed themselves since fans were unaware of these things.

For example was the mutagen made to create living weapons or was made to be a cure for this disease? Both seem incompatible but both claims are made in the movie. (Certainly the guy from Latino review said that the former was a big theme of the movie when he visited the set with the Foot creating super soldiers.)

A rather huge flaw for me was after the raid on the lair Raphael goes to rescue his brothers with Splinter near death with his fate uncertain. The next scene it seems as if Raphael believes Splinter will be fine. That seems a bit of a disconnect but okay. Then during the rescue of his brothers not only is Splinter back to being at death's door again but it was their mission all along to get some mutagen to save his life. Where did this come from?

It seems they shot two versions of this part of the movie. One were Splinter is dying and they have to race against the clock for a cure to save his life and another were he's only injured and Raph is just trying to save his brothers. They edited together to form an incomprehensible mush.

And this is before taking into account that Raph seems to leave Splinter a bit too easily. Surely he's take him to a safe place rather than leaving him in the ruins of the lair knowing it's location is compromised. How exactly do they know mutagen will save him? Doesn't he have mutagen in his system already? Wouldn't more mutagen mutate him further?

Wasn't the "That's what your father and I were trying to do. Create heroes." line completely omitted from the film? If it was, then that shows a clear indication that the mutagen was more so a "super soldier serum" ala Captain America and it would give logic as to why Splinter and the Turtles learned ninjutsu so quickly...oh and why they're god damn bullet proof for some reason.

Again, I think that's another example of the reedits that are so apparent in this film that it boggles any real intelligence or thought when trying to enjoy this movie.

And yes, I've seen plenty of people on here trying to use those reedits against people who didn't enjoy the film. This film sounds like it was just a doomed project from the start. Not that the idea of bringing TMNT back to the screen was a doomed notion, but the people they've had working on this clearly needed to get their act together.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

Didn't Eastman think this movie was awesome when he watched it? Also, whatever happen to that cameo he talked about at one point? I could have sworn he said he'd make a cameo.

Originally Posted by Xiewin

It got cut.

Why on Dimension X would they cut out a cameo for one of the franchise's original creators?

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL

Wasn't the "That's what your father and I were trying to do. Create heroes." line completely omitted from the film? If it was, then that shows a clear indication that the mutagen was more so a "super soldier serum" ala Captain America and it would give logic as to why Splinter and the Turtles learned ninjutsu so quickly...oh and why they're god damn bullet proof for some reason.

Again, I think that's another example of the reedits that are so apparent in this film that it boggles any real intelligence or thought when trying to enjoy this movie.

And yes, I've seen plenty of people on here trying to use those reedits against people who didn't enjoy the film. This film sounds like it was just a doomed project from the start. Not that the idea of bringing TMNT back to the screen was a doomed notion, but the people they've had working on this clearly needed to get their act together.

Plus they clearly needed to know what tmnt was all about before they even bothered to get the rights to it.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Galactus

Worse.

TMNT III had the characters as the primary focus and got that the characters weren't all one note caricatures and tried to flesh them out. Saccharin as the character with an attitude bonding with a child or Mike falling for a lady and so on it worked to set up a dilemma of whether the turtles should stay in the past. It wasn't much but it was there.

I'd also say that the story makes sense. True there's a few contrivances but and it's a very basic time travel story and not much else but it all flows smoothly.

You can't make those claims about the 2014 movie.

Yeah, I'm with you here. They didn't do it well, and the writing/directing/production values are pretty painful, but I don't feel like the story's internal logic is as completely broken as the BayTurtles movie. And its particular type of badness gives TMNT3 a bit of an entertaining cheese factor. I'd definitely rather watch TMNT3 again than ever revisit the BayTurtles. Especially with a few drinks.

Originally Posted by Galactus

I actually think there's a attempt to by defenders of the '14 movie to pin all of it's flaws on the the changes made to appease the fans so. Thus if we think it's a bad product then it's "our" fault.

Never mind the fact that if Platinum Dunes didn't clumsily backtrack after every online controversy, we'd probably have a version of that Alien Ninja Turtles movie instead, and absolutely everyone would have hated that. Maybe they should be thanking us instead.

Seriously, though - the producers are to blame for the final product, full stop. They wouldn't alter the film in the eleventh hour if they didn't feel they had to, or that it made more financial sense to change their product. For better or worse, what we got is entirely on the folks at Platinum Dunes. Assign blame accordingly.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Bry

Never mind the fact that if Platinum Dunes didn't clumsily backtrack after every online controversy, we'd probably have a version of that Alien Ninja Turtles movie instead, and absolutely everyone would have hated that. Maybe they should be thanking us instead.

After seeing the surprisingly positive feedback and violent defense this movie gets.... I wouldn't be surprised if the Alien Turtles movie still would have had a strong legion of followers calling us 'wrong' for complaining that the turtles were made into aliens. And anxious for the sequel.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Do you guys see the turtles possibly losing those extra 'stuff' like Don's proton pack in the sequel?

[PizzaPower1985]

Originally Posted by massakre

Extremely happy

Something tells me they prob learned a lesson with this first one and realized they got lucky as it wasn't the movie/story itself that sold tickets but rather people just going because the Turtles were live on the big screen again after so many years and the nostalgia factor.

Now, they go back to the drawing board with one thought.. You can't please everyone, especially fanboys.. so create a story and STICK TO IT. This last-minute editing/cutting/chopping has to go. Keep it under wraps if you have to because EVERYONE is going to be critical of this property..

Then theres also the element of surprise.. the first one didnt sit well with critics and had split reactions between fans. Make the necessary changes to put together a GOOD STORY that flows and market the **** out of this next movie.

I wouldn't give the studio so much credit. The film made money so they are going to think they did something right story wise. It all depends I guess on word of mouth 4 to 6 months after the film leaves theaters.

[Puddinpop]

I am really happy about the sequel. I gotta say that I wasn't surprised though. A lot of us saw it coming. But it was just awesome to hear it announced only a few days after the first one was released. I hope they learned a few things after making this movie.

One thing This production is guilty of is trying to make everyone happy. It's impossible. No matter what kind of movie it was it would have had backlash. Period. I find it a little amusing that the same ones online that flipped over Shredder not being Japanese are NOW complaining that Sacks wasn't Shredder

The people involved with making these films have worked their asses off to get where they are. They paid their dues and have every right to take what liberties they want to take. Esp the co creator himself. They should do what THEY want to do and go for it. They shouldn't pay attention to angry internet people treating TMNT like it is their own personal property that no one else should dare change. They have every right. But they wanted to make fans happy. Yea the film had it's flaws. Fans wanted their cowabunga's and their Japanese Shredder and their pizza.. they got it. But after claiming that all their online outrage changed the direction of a major film they NOW claim that they had no hand in how generic it ended up being.

And I thought people had different tastes and opinions? Some just cant except the fact that just bc you didn't like this movie doesn't mean that the ones that did are wrong. No one has to " defend " anything. That's absolutely absurd lol. You are allowed to feel a certain way about something but that doesn't make everyone that feels differently wrong. The way people view their own views as concrete facts around here and then expand on them like they are facts and treat those that disagree with them like illiterate crazy morons lol.. It's ridiculous.

Originally Posted by massakre

Extremely happy

Something tells me they prob learned a lesson with this first one and realized they got lucky as it wasn't the movie/story itself that sold tickets but rather people just going because the Turtles were live on the big screen again after so many years and the nostalgia factor.

Now, they go back to the drawing board with one thought.. You can't please everyone, especially fanboys.. so create a story and STICK TO IT. This last-minute editing/cutting/chopping has to go. Keep it under wraps if you have to because EVERYONE is going to be critical of this property..

Then theres also the element of surprise.. the first one didnt sit well with critics and had split reactions between fans. Make the necessary changes to put together a GOOD STORY that flows and market the **** out of this next movie.

I totally agree. But I do think that the trailers really pulled people in. Esp. the TV spots. I just wish they kept a lot of the stuff in. Like the Lair scenes with Mikey giving April a tour. And Raph in his trench. They do listen to fans and I think they will make improvements. I think they've learned a lot from making this first film. I hope the lack of confusion and cluster f*** will help things along in a better way. Better story better everything. I do kind of hope they pick another director though. I like Liebesman but.. let him direct something else. This franchise is on the top of my list.. They are my favorite characters and I think I just want someone with a little more experience. Well see what happens

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

The people involved with making these films have worked their asses off to get where they are. They paid their dues and have every right to take what liberties they want to take. Esp the co creator himself. They should do what THEY want to do and go for it. They shouldn't pay attention to angry internet people treating TMNT like it is their own personal property that no one else should dare change. They have every right. But they wanted to make fans happy. Yea the film had it's flaws. Fans wanted their cowabunga's and their Japanese Shredder and their pizza.. they got it. But after claiming that all their online outrage changed the direction of a major film they NOW claim that they had no hand in how generic it ended up being.

It was a generic movie..... That's all this was going to be since the alien Turtles and colonel Shroader thing. Doing a last minute re-shoot and cramming some random asian guy in there for 5 minutes doesn't change the fact that the rest of movie was a generic sloppy mess. You could have taken those scenes out and left Sachs as Shredder and it should would have been a screwed up movie.

These guys had no business making a TMNT movie. Period.

And no, if they choose to make a movie based on a pre-existing property, they DON'T get to do whatever the hell they want. They have to at the very least follow certain things from the series they're adopting, or else they can just go all out and make their own original movie about their own original characters.

People don't make a Batman movie about a disco dancing guy that eats bats, hence the name, and he fights a bear with clown make-up nicknamed Joker

People don't make a movie about Captain America able to shoot missiles from his hands

People don't make Spider-Man swing from webs out his butt and have him have an incestous affair with Aunt May.

They don't make a movie where Superman is only kinda sorta strong, and can't fly.

They have to at least follow the basic groundwork of what they're trying to adapt, or just go all-out and make their own thing.

I have no idea what these people were aiming for when they starting writing the script and whatnot... but it sure as hell wasn't a Ninja Turtles film.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

I am really happy about the sequel. I gotta say that I wasn't surprised though. A lot of us saw it coming. But it was just awesome to hear it announced only a few days after the first one was released. I hope they learned a few things after making this movie.

I saw it coming too but sadly it engendered the opposite feeling.

One thing This production is guilty of is trying to make everyone happy. It's impossible. No matter what kind of movie it was it would have had backlash. Period. I find it a little amusing that the same ones online that flipped over Shredder not being Japanese are NOW complaining that Sacks wasn't Shredder

They made a few minor token changes without really putting any thought of why these things were important to include. I don't think that qualifies as "trying to please everyone".

If they wanted to please everyone they wouldn't have pursued a course that would have made the fan base so angry in the first place let alone wait until the last minute to change it. You can't stop fans from pointing how badly those changes were implemented or how better it would have been if they'd done it earlier...or better still thought of these very basic things from the beginning.

If I go into a diner and order a cheese and ham sandwich and they give me one with the cheese is off and the bread is moldy it's not like I have no right to complain because they gave me what I asked for.

As I've said elsewhere defenders of this movie seem to now suggest that it's flaws are purely the result of the changes they made to please the fans as a way to excuse those flaws and say that if we thought it was bad it's "our" faults. Like I said it's not like the really delivered on fan service and a lot of the changes done to the movie which make it feel very disjointed are in aspects unrelated to the Shredder issue or anything that fans were upset or even knew about.

The people involved with making these films have worked their asses off to get where they are. They paid their dues and have every right to take what liberties they want to take. Esp the co creator himself. They should do what THEY want to do and go for it. They shouldn't pay attention to angry internet people treating TMNT like it is their own personal property that no one else should dare change. They have every right. But they wanted to make fans happy. Yea the film had it's flaws. Fans wanted their cowabunga's and their Japanese Shredder and their pizza.. they got it. But after claiming that all their online outrage changed the direction of a major film they NOW claim that they had no hand in how generic it ended up being.

Well I'm not necessarily sure that everyone involved in this movie has worked their asses off or paid their dues. The entertainment industry can be very unfair on almost every level. For some people hard work and talent can pay off but for other talented people they can work hard for years and never get anywhere while someone who has the right connections gets an easy ride to the top. Does anything in Leibesman's resume suggest that he'd be the right choice to direct an attempt at a movie which acts as a tent pole for what they hoped would be a billion dollar series?

In regards to them doing what they want with the characters there's a school of thought that says that it you create something it belongs to the world and I think there's some truth in that. Denny O'Neil said it best when he saw some of the reactions to his comic book work. "I thought I was editing fiction but I soon found out that the Batman editor, and the Superman editor and Woman Woman editor are more than that. They are custodians of folklore".

Yes they can all do what they want with these characters and franchises but they do it at their peril. If they don't like criticisms or can't handle backlash maybe they should put some real thought into what would please people instead of just doing what they want. (That's not to say they should have no creative freedom but there is a realm of good taste when doing something new with very established characters. This is where having people that like and understand property comes in.)

The box office numbers are a sign of this. I don't begrudge Paramount's marketing machine trying to make this appear like a huge success but the numbers are pretty mediocre for a movie which should have everything going for it. They really have to ask why so many people decided to stay away.

The sad part is that die is now cast. Even if a sequel really improves on this movie it's pretty much going to land in the same ballpark. Just look at Batman Begins? Generally considered a great movie but financially it didn't set the world alight thanks to Batman & Robin turning so many people off the franchise and it looked like The Dark Knight wouldn't have made that much more. It was the tragic death of Heath Ledger that got mass amounts of people interested in the Nolan series.

Unless something drastic happens to get people really excited about a TMNT series then I think we're in for a bunch of mediocre sellers regardless of how good or bad the movies are.

[Puddinpop]

Wow

Just more folks assuming they know what they are talking about and actually believe it to be fact. Id say Kevin Eastman has every right to take certain liberties with a TMNT film. Anyone denying that isn't worth responding to. And Kevin was heavily involved with making this film. Secondly.. I know this is a hard concept to grasp around here but.. There is absolutely ZERO proof that this production " added on a scene or two" to add some " Japanese guy". He was told to keep it a secret during the whole production. And the reshoots were bc Fox was pregnant and some shots and to be redone bc was having a baby. I know I know.. everyone is lying to us all the time. Lies lies lies. Stop expanding on these things like you know for a fact that it happened. Truth is it is all speculation. But yet you expand on it like you were there. You weren't. And these film makers? They have paid their dues. I know it's "cool" now to be cynical and envious of anyone that has made it in life and is successful in Hollywood but that doesn't change the fact that they have put themselves in a position to make these films. If people have such a huge problem with it and want it done " their" way then they should work hard at putting themselves in a position to make the film of their dreams. But as for PD and Liebesman and Eastman? they DO have the right to take liberties and make changes. So it just makes some look ridiculous trying to say that they " don't" lol. Just bc you didn't end up liking the end product you think you can say that they had no business or right to create a TMNT movie? That is so absurd I am laughing right this second. As I write this I am laughing. All this " they made a bad movie how dare they" mentality? it's subjective/objective.

Originally Posted by Galactus

Yes they can all do what they want with these characters and franchises but they do it at their peril. .

And I agree. And it paid off. Some can try their hardest to take away from this films success.. even by comparing it to other films lol.
But against so many odds this film prevailed when SO MANY made it their full time job trying to bury it in negativity. So many wanted this movie to fail. So you can understand how it must of felt for some to see this movie do well. A lot of folks enjoyed the film. And they are not " ignorant or wrong for doing so". The movie IS a success with about half of it's release dates still to come. It exceeded expectations and announced it's sequel when some here swore up and down that it wouldn't have a sequel. I know the film has it's flaws.. a lot of films have flaws. But I and many others still enjoyed it and are hoping for an even better sequel.

Edit: I totally disagree about the death of Heath being the reason why the film did so well. The Dark Knight did well bc people thought it was an awesome film. Yea im sure some went to see it bc Ledger died shorty after.. But that film deserved every penny it earned. Imo it was one of if not the best comic book film I've ever seen. People packed in bc Heaths performance got great word of mouth. And it's obvious why. Batman Begins did well.. I don't see any connection or negative effect from Batman forever.. The Nolan series did awesome and it was bc the films were well done. But Im not sure why everyone keeps comparing TMNT to Superman and Spiderman and Batman.

People are already going to great lengths to call this sequel a failure and it doesn't even have a script yet. You guys all did it with this first film.. and started betting against it the second the sequel was announced. Just the lengths some will go to convince that this next film will be crap lol..
I think the sequel will be even bigger.. and more successful than the first

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

Do you guys see the turtles possibly losing those extra 'stuff' like Don's proton pack in the sequel?

I wouldn't mind if they cut back with it on Donnie and Mikey. Leo and Raph's gear I don't mind. (Don't lose Leo's NYC button! lol) Please at least get Donnie some contacts or laser correction... or at least more flattering frames. Not to knock the wearing of glasses, because I'm a fellow wearer, but he's a far better looking character without those.

[Puddinpop]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

I wouldn't mind if they cut back with it on Donnie and Mikey. Leo and Raph's gear I don't mind. (Don't lose Leo's NYC button! lol) Please at least get Donnie some contacts or laser correction... or at least more flattering frames. Not to knock the wearing of glasses, because I'm a fellow wearer, but he's a far better looking character without those.

I really loved Donnies shell. I want to see it without the pack on there. I guess id like to see all of them without the gear at least for a portion of the film. I was actually hoping that they give Raph a regular bandana for the sequel.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

I really loved Donnies shell. I want to see it without the pack on there. I guess id like to see all of them without the gear at least for a portion of the film. I was actually hoping that they give Raph a regular bandana for the sequel.

Yeah, at the very least seeing some down time without it at their home would be nice. Surely they, esp Donnie, don't wear all that stuff literally all the time - how can one sleep in that tech stuff, Mikey's necklaces could be a strangulation hazard, and isn't it rude to be bringing all your gear and weapons to the breakfast table? lol ("Forget the gear, turtle boy, just sit down and enjoy your damn Lucky Charms." )