Star Wars Episode 8

[TigerClaw]

Star Wars Episode 8 has officially started filming, so I thought I make this thread for all discussion about Episode 8, whether its photos and BTS videos from the filming.
http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-episode-viii-now-filming?cmp=smc|368071963&linkId=21276843

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Benicio Del Toro, Laura Dern and Kelly Marie Tran have been cast, I'm curious what type of role would fit Benicio Del Toro, he could either be a First Order officer or a member of the resistance, the same for Laura Dern and Kelly Marie Tran

[AT-Man]

What if Del Toro is the Collector? Shared universe hype!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Give Peter Quill a lightsaber and I'm all in. :tlol:

[CyberCubed]

I'm saying it now, Luke will die in this movie and come back as a Force Ghost in Episode 9. Everyone remember this post now in Feb. 2016....2 years from now in late 2017 you will see that I am very right.

Star Wars has turned into Hamlet, King Lear, and Romeo and Juliet. All the main characters die. Its so sad. All the prequel characters HAD to die because that's where the story went, but now we know all the original characters will die too. I'm willing to bet Leia will be the only one to survive the new trilogy.

[MikeandRaph87]

It will not happen but it is legal to have Mickey Mouse, Spider-Man, and Buzz Lightyear face Darth Vadar in a movie since they are all under the same umbrella of ownership.

[Leo656]

It was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. They're all dead, you lunatic. Quit whining.

[AT-Man]

I'm willing to bet Leia will be the only one to survive the new trilogy.

My money's on Chewbacca.

[TigerClaw]

Star Wars Episode 8 has a working title...
https://twitter.com/carrieffisher/status/700731677312548864

Space Bear Episode 8

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cbl_t4bUAAAc0ue.jpg

[snake]

I'm saying it now, Luke will die in this movie and come back as a Force Ghost in Episode 9. Everyone remember this post now in Feb. 2016....2 years from now in late 2017 you will see that I am very right.

Star Wars has turned into Hamlet, King Lear, and Romeo and Juliet. All the main characters die. Its so sad. All the prequel characters HAD to die because that's where the story went, but now we know all the original characters will die too. I'm willing to bet Leia will be the only one to survive the new trilogy.

Leia may very well be the only character to survive. The only problem is keeping Carrie Fisher alive.

[CyberCubed]

Leia may very well be the only character to survive. The only problem is keeping Carrie Fisher alive.

She's only 60 years old. By the time Episode 9 comes out she'll only be around 65. Barring anything like cancer she'll survive the new trilogy.

[Amaranthus]

She's only 60 years old. By the time Episode 9 comes out she'll only be around 65. Barring anything like cancer she'll survive the new trilogy.

Holy sh*t you guys are talking about people like they're tools you need to work long enough for you to complete your task.

[ProactiveMan]

Laura Dern!? Excellent. Now they just need Kyle MacLachlan and we're one step closer to David Lynch's Return of the Jedi.

[Zak The Neutrino]

As excited as I am for this movie shouldn't we be talking Rogue One right now? :D

Is there a thread for that yet?

[Raph's Girl]

As excited as I am for this movie shouldn't we be talking Rogue One right now? :D

Is there a thread for that yet?

No thread. Don't even know the fricken plot yet and there hasn't been any trailers either. All I know is it's out in December.

[TigerClaw]

No thread. Don't even know the fricken plot yet and there hasn't been any trailers either. All I know is it's out in December.
Consider it done.
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=54588

[TigerClaw]

Mark Hamill posted this on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/702537179470438400

EXCLUSIVE 1st LOOK #EP8-Exotic Alien Creature to terrorize...oh no wait-that's just my daughter's dog #Whoops #MyBad

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb_p1zhWwAANZ8_.jpg

[NinjaPug]

Some set photos from the Croatia shoot.



https://56.media.tumblr.com/d26c98d1e8e595048abbcde536a8e567/tumblr_o3vwph5vme1u2gq57o2_1280.png

http://www.starwarspost.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/star-wars-episode-eight-dubrovnik-high-horse.png

[CyberCubed]

How did they manage to shoot in Croatia? The government allowed them in that foreign land?

[Mayhem]

You'd be surprised... there aren't enough locations here with "classic" or "period" looking buildings at times, so quite a few UK dramas may do bits of exterior filming in Croatia or Bulgaria as a result.

[ObiWanFan4life]

As always, it's refreshing to see real practical effects in these movies, especially that photo of Rey riding that antelope looking thing.

[NinjaPug]

Some more set photos from VIII



http://i2.wp.com/makingstarwars.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/EPISODE-VIII-MAZ-CONCEPT-ALIEN.jpg?resize=592%2C768

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/03/14/12/322DED4900000578-3491395-image-a-82_1457958751650.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/03/14/16/322ED6EE00000578-3491395-image-a-29_1457973313713.jpg


http://i0.wp.com/makingstarwars.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/SPACE-HORSE-2000.jpg?w=634

[CyberCubed]

Is this a horror movie or is this Star Wars?

[ProactiveMan]

You'd be surprised... there aren't enough locations here with "classic" or "period" looking buildings at times, so quite a few UK dramas may do bits of exterior filming in Croatia or Bulgaria as a result.

Yeah - Some parts of Europe got through the 20th Century relatively unscathed, architecturally speaking, so there are still a lot of undamaged buildings from all periods that look much like they always have. I have relatives from Croatia, and apparently it is beautiful. I don’t think filming there is any harder than filming in Italy or the Czech Republic politically speaking.

[TigerClaw]

Rian Johnson has posted this BTS image of Lupita Nyong'o doing motion capture for Maz Kanata in Episode 8.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/scifi_movies/star_wars/rian-johnson-shares-a-new-bts-look-at-maz-kanata-from-the-a133048

http://41.media.tumblr.com/5cefcb05ab59e565ecb7568a8242ea14/tumblr_o54c9dDDSv1qzsjdko1_1280.jpg

[CyberCubed]

I'm surprised that character was so well received, she looked like someone straight out of the prequels in terms of her design.

[TigerClaw]

Mark Hamill posted this on twitter.
https://twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/719239858087182336

A long time ago (last week I think) In a galaxy far, far way(@PinewoodStudios ) THIS happened! Happy Birthday Daisy!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CftAyCAXIAA3sb9.jpg

[TigerClaw]

Rian Johnson just posted two BTS images from Episode 8
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/scifi_movies/star_wars/rian-johnson-shares-some-new-bts-images-from-the-set-of-a141098

http://www.liveforfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/sw1.jpg

http://40.media.tumblr.com/aff50f7d9dc134e2928703297cbf2913/tumblr_o6d01201Lk1qzsjdko2_1280.jpg

[TigerClaw]

The Millennium Falcon spotted on the set of Episode 8, there's a bunch of images here.
http://makingstarwars.net/2016/04/set-photos-for-star-wars-episode-viii-reveal-ahch-to-and-millennium-falcon-sets/

http://i2.wp.com/makingstarwars.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/image-21.jpeg?w=962

[snake]

The Millennium Falcon spotted on the set of Episode 8, There's a bunch of images here.
http://makingstarwars.net/2016/04/set-photos-for-star-wars-episode-viii-reveal-ahch-to-and-millennium-falcon-sets/

http://i2.wp.com/makingstarwars.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/image-21.jpeg?w=962

Holy sh*t. That is awesome

[Spike Spiegel]

Despite my personal misgivings about TFA, I appreciate the effort to make a real Falcon rather than a ship you see on a blue screen.

[CyberCubed]

Can you actually go inside that or are the sets for inside the falcon somewhere else?

[MikeandRaph87]

Possible spoilers for the film. Until the movie is widely released it is a rumor.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/episode-viii-spoilers-reveal-one-coolest-jedi-fights-154820114.html

[TigerClaw]

Looks like the title for Star Wars Episode 8, might be "Star Wars: Fall of The Resistance"
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2016/05/20/is-this-the-title-of-star-wars-episode-viii/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CixWgc9VEAElUGT.jpg

[NinjaPug]

Fake fake fake fake.

[CyberCubed]

How would people feel if Luke dies in Episode 8 and comes back as a Force ghost in Episode 9?

Would people be angry if both Luke and Han are killed off and Leia is the only surviving character of the original trilogy?

[snake]

How would people feel if Luke dies in Episode 8 and comes back as a Force ghost in Episode 9?

Would people be angry if both Luke and Han are killed off and Leia is the only surviving character of the original trilogy?

Force ghost is a cool idea so I'd be down for it.

[sdp]

I like the idea of Luke ghost but it'd mean that the new trilogy is only continuing to ripoff the original trilogy. I mean who would kill him? Kylo Ren?

[Foombamaroom]

Can you actually go inside that or are the sets for inside the falcon somewhere else?
Probably sets.

How would people feel if Luke dies in Episode 8 and comes back as a Force ghost in Episode 9?

Would people be angry if both Luke and Han are killed off and Leia is the only surviving character of the original trilogy?

It depends. Han's death didn't outrage people because it worked; it played its part in the story and will continue to do so in future installments.

If they do that with Luke, people will have the same reaction. If they kill him purely for shock value, then people will be pissed.

[TigerClaw]

Rian Johnson posted a new BTS pic, filming is in the home stretch.
http://rcjohnso.tumblr.com/post/145623121700/in-the-home-stretch

http://67.media.tumblr.com/446bb556e226fe953a2a3cccf45374ce/tumblr_o8gyml5hjw1qzsjdko1_1280.jpg

[NinjaPug]

@ErikDavis: "This movie is going to start right where the last one left off." -- Rian Johnson on Episode VIII #SWCE

[Andrew NDB]

@ErikDavis: "This movie is going to start right where the last one left off." -- Rian Johnson on Episode VIII #SWCE

He actually made that clear quite a while ago. But it's a little disappointing to me. I was kind of hoping 8 would pop in 2 years later and everyone is a little more seasoned (Rey under Luke, Kylo under Snoke, etc.).

[Splinter the boss]

I want it as soon as possible. Who can wait to find out who Rey is and whose child she is? I can't.

[Spike Spiegel]

Who wants to bet that Finn is Luke's son?

[TigerClaw]

Here are some highlights from a panel talking about Episode 8.

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[Revan]

I loved TFA but I was a little bummed we didn't get this.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w21/ZakNeutrino/8033541_f520.jpg (http://s172.photobucket.com/user/ZakNeutrino/media/8033541_f520.jpg.html)

It doesn't seem to be the way they are going with Leia. I was really hoping to see her more as a warrior.

Movie was fun though. I'm excited for episode 8

[MikeandRaph87]

Take it as you will as its just a rumor, but I quite like it if it is true.

http://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/latest-luke-skywalker-snoke-leak.html/?ref=YF&yptr=yahoo

[Andrew NDB]

I loved TFA but I was a little bummed we didn't get this.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w21/ZakNeutrino/8033541_f520.jpg (http://s172.photobucket.com/user/ZakNeutrino/media/8033541_f520.jpg.html)

It doesn't seem to be the way they are going with Leia. I was really hoping to see her more as a warrior.

Movie was fun though. I'm excited for episode 8

I think we would have gotten a bit more of that... if they'd gauged that Carrie Fisher would have been up for such things. Maybe in 8 or 9. But I doubt it.

[CyberCubed]

She's too old. Had Episode 7 been made back in the early 2000's instead of the prequels, then it might have happened.

[myconius]

I'm saying it now, Luke will die in this movie and come back as a Force Ghost in Episode 9. Everyone remember this post now in Feb. 2016....2 years from now in late 2017 you will see that I am very right.

Star Wars has turned into Hamlet, King Lear, and Romeo and Juliet. All the main characters die. Its so sad. All the prequel characters HAD to die because that's where the story went, but now we know all the original characters will die too. I'm willing to bet Leia will be the only one to survive the new trilogy.

all the characters will end up dying!

BB-8 will be the last survivor in the entire Galaxy.

[Andrew NDB]

I hope Episode VIII resets the table accordingly... nothing even happened in VII and we are equally as clueless about the political landscape as we were when the movie starts (and yes, I realize there are probably books and crap that get into all of that but I shouldn't have to read them to understand). I guess it's inferred that the New Republic started the Resistance in order to plausibly deny things so the Resistance can quietly fight the First Order... but... why does the New Republic need to worry about that? Wouldn't the First Order be the Resistance, if anything? I'm not even sure it's mentioned in the film, but apparently that was the New Republic capital world among the three planets destroyed in the weird Starkiller blasts (that must be travelling at hyperspeed and yet... appear to just be crawling around at sub-light speeds). Why wasn't Coruscant still the capital world?

More than anything I'm worried Disney will diverge from where I think Lucas was taking things. The original trilogy presented kind of a romanticized version of the Jedi in retrospect, that sort of carried off into the EU novels and stuff with Luke starting the new Jedi Academy, this whole new generation of Jedi Knights, etc., but I'm not sure that's what Lucas intended at all. When we meet the Jedi Knights in the prequels, we actually learn that their way was flawed and they were kind of a$$holes that sort of deserved to be snuffed out, or at least their order shoved aside. If things were to continue beyond Episode VI, while I'm sure there might be new crops of Force users, I don't think there would have been a return to the order of the Jedi.

[Mayhem]

There's some stuff that got cut out of the final edit (and assuming will be in some later release of the film) that explains a few of the bits you're asking about.

[sdp]

His point is still valid, he shouldn't need to see deleted scenes to understand the basics of the new movie. We had a bunch of questions leading to Ep.VII and after the movie we were on the same boat and we just got a rehash of Ep.IV. I'm glad more people are being critical about Ep.VII. The first few months it was impossible to even mention anything without getting flamed. Now that time has passed I think I can say Ep. VII is my least liked movie and it's because I don't feel like re-watching it. The prequels as "bad" as they are tell a new story, here I don't gain any new information and just see Ep.IV remade.

I really wish we had gotten Lucas' Ep. VIII and see where he took the story, I'm not a fan of this Empire rehash and at least with him we would've gotten something new, he even mentioned he wanted to do something different and new and Disney wanted to "give fans" what they wanted. At least Ep. VIII has to be better since they can't really rehash so many things, we need to have the new villains set up, as long as Kylo Ren isn't a redemption story like Vader's it can only get better from where we are now.

[Andrew NDB]

as long as Kylo Ren isn't a redemption story like Vader's it can only get better from where we are now.

Oh, you can bet it will be. That or he's been in deep cover trying to get close to (and kill) Snoke. I'd bet the farm we'll get Evil Rey vs. Good Kylo by the end.

[CyberCubed]

I don't see them restoring the Jedi order. That would make the series too similar to the prequels which Disney wants to avoid.

Also given this is already 30 years in the future after episode 6, it doesn't seem like there have been any other Jedi running around. So I guess Luke never does restore the Jedi order like in the EU.

[Andrew NDB]

Also given this is already 30 years in the future after episode 6, it doesn't seem like there have been any other Jedi running around. So I guess Luke never does restore the Jedi order like in the EU.

No, it sounds like he did... for like a few months before Kylo Ren and the Knights of Ren butchered them all.

[AT-Man]

Check out the new Plinkett review of TFA and other things Star Wars!!! !!! !!!

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[Spike Spiegel]

Check out the new Plinkett review of TFA and other things Star Wars!!! !!! !!!

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He spends the first hour or so doing even more Lucas/prequel bashing. It got kind of hard to listen to.

[Utrommaniac]

I loved TFA but I was a little bummed we didn't get this.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w21/ZakNeutrino/8033541_f520.jpg (http://s172.photobucket.com/user/ZakNeutrino/media/8033541_f520.jpg.html)

It doesn't seem to be the way they are going with Leia. I was really hoping to see her more as a warrior.

I think being a f***ing General is good enough of a warrior.

As for the Jedi Order, I'm in agreement that they probably won't bring it back. Because as many have pointed out, the Jedi Order caused a lot of problems that should never have happened. Rather, I think that they'll change what it means to be Force-sensitive. One won't have to necessarily train as a Jedi to hone their powers, especially for those that don't want to participate in the battle aspects of being a Jedi.

It seems from this context, Leia chose not to use her capabilities to be a Jedi, but rather to enhance the ones she already had.

[Krutch]

He spends the first hour or so doing even more Lucas/prequel bashing. It got kind of hard to listen to.
Yeah, this is easily his worst review. Very unfocused and unfunny, to be honest. Too bad cuz I loved his last three.

[Andrew NDB]

He spends the first hour or so doing even more Lucas/prequel bashing. It got kind of hard to listen to.

Yeah, this is easily his worst review. Very unfocused and unfunny, to be honest. Too bad cuz I loved his last three.

I knew I wasn't going to like this review as soon as I heard the RLM consensus on The Force Awakens. In the Ghostbusters review they were like, "The Force Awakens did it the right way, Ghostbusters did it the wrong way." Ehhh... just by copying a movie scene-for-scene and playing it safe? No.

It's a funny review, but I just don't agree with Plinkett. And yeah, it appears to only exist to get in new jabs at Lucas.

[TonySiegel]

just maximize finn's potential in the next movie...

episode 7 burned me out for star wars...

don't think rogue one will redeem the series either...

[Shark_Blade]

I actually look forward to Rogue One. New cast, and the costumes with cloak behind them look amazing.

Having seen Force Awakens, I should rank the movies.

1. The Phantom Menace
2. A New Hope
3. The Force Awakens
4. Return of the Jedi
5. Empire Strikes Back
6. Attack of the Clones
7. Revenge of the Sith

[TheSkeletonMan939]

1. The Phantom Menace

No.. noooo! That's not true! That's impossible!

[ZariusTwo]

1. The Phantom Menace

Now I know you're a gimmick poster

[CyberCubed]

For me:

1. Episode 5
2. Episode 4
3. Episode 6
4. Episode 7
5. Episode 3
6. Episode 1
7. Episode 2

[Andrew NDB]

1. 4
2. 6
3. 5
4. 3
5. 1
6. 2
7. 7.

[ZariusTwo]

1. V
2. IV
3. VI
4. III
5. Vii
6. II
7. I

[ToTheNines]

4
5
3
6
7
1
2

[TheSkeletonMan939]

5
4
2
6
3
7
1

[MikeandRaph87]

I think a link here will keep the thread for detracting.
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=54067&highlight=rank+star+wars

[mrmaczaps]

For me, the original trilogy as a whole is best, then as bad as the prequels were, they were NOT episode 7...

I'm not really digging this tie everything under the sun together and you miss stuff if you are too poor to buy it crap either.....

[snake]

4
5
6
7
3
1
2

This is the correct order

[ToTheNines]

4
5
6
7
3
1
2

This is the correct order

I can't shake my hatred of Jedi, and I have a huge soft spot for Sith. But yeah, objectively, that's spot on.

Looking at the old ranking thread, it's funny how much of a boner I had for Awakens last December.

[Spike Spiegel]

V
IV
VI
III
II/I tie




VII

[Autbot_Benz]

Empire Strikes Back
Jedi
New Hope
New Hope Redux aka Force Awakens
Sith
Clones
Phantom Menace

[Andrew NDB]

V
IV
VI
III
II/I tie




VII

lol... :lol:

[CyberCubed]

I am out of the loop, no movie can be as bad as Attack of the Clones. Episode 7 while being practically a remake, had some nice new performances by the cast and some great action scenes.

Episode 2 is just incredibly boring. Episode III has some great moments, and Episode 1 gets a lot of hate for the wrong reasons, but Episode 2 has almost nothing to like until the big final fight...and that's it.

[sdp]

IV
VI
V
I
II
III
VII

I'm not trying to make a statement with VII at the bottom but I just don't feel like re-watching it since it's so generic, it doesn't do anything particularly wrong but there isn't enough "new" so it's just kind of "meh".

I'll grade the spin-off films which so far they're all terrible, I still love some of them but man are they bad.

Holiday Special - I'm a sucker for holiday specials, I enjoy the cheesyness
Caravan of Courage - kind of cool to see the Ewoks but god is it boring
The Great Heep - The novelty wears off halfway through the movie but its ok
Battle for Endor - The few redeeming features of CoC were gone
The Clone Wars - Boy is this boring

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

So basically, everyone has finally accepted that "The Force Awakens" was not a good movie?

It was instead a decent "remix" of a good movie?

[Andrew NDB]

I am out of the loop, no movie can be as bad as Attack of the Clones.

Episode 2 is just incredibly boring. Episode III has some great moments, and Episode 1 gets a lot of hate for the wrong reasons, but Episode 2 has almost nothing to like until the big final fight...and that's it.

I agree. And nothing really happened in II.

I'm not trying to make a statement with VII at the bottom but I just don't feel like re-watching it since it's so generic, it doesn't do anything particularly wrong but there isn't enough "new" so it's just kind of "meh".

I had a lot of faith about VII going into it, but yeah... after watching it I don't even feel any desire to rewatch it. Even with -- to me -- bores like Episode II, I still was itching to watch it again on DVD, then again in marathon viewings. Like it or hate it, at least it tried something new.

[CyberCubed]

Well Episode 7 depends on how much you liked the new cast, particularly Rey and Finn. And also to see Harrison Ford in what is likely his final performance as Han Solo.

[ZariusTwo]

David Prowse, now 81, will no longer attend international conventions

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/darth-vader-actor-dave-prowse-retires-international-fan-040014760.html

[sdp]

For the prequels I genuinely like EpI a lot, it may have to do that I was still a kid when it came out but I feel it has all the great things a SW movie has even if people didn't like Jar Jar. Ep. II has that god awful love story but I enjoyed all of the Jango and Clone Army stuff. Ep.III I enjoy a few scenes but it did too many things I hated.

Well Episode 7 depends on how much you liked the new cast, particularly Rey and Finn. And also to see Harrison Ford in what is likely his final performance as Han Solo.
I loved most of the new cast and characters with exception to the new villains. It's the plot that was the problem.


David Prowse, now 81, will no longer attend international conventions

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/darth-vader-actor-dave-prowse-retires-international-fan-040014760.html

I met him back when Ep.II premier in a conference, I have to admit only being the person inside the suit doesn't create a lot of great stuff for a conference. Didn't he get blacklisted by Lucasfilm a few years ago?

[Andrew NDB]

For the prequels I genuinely like EpI a lot

I maintain that Episode I is easily the most "complete story" out of any of the prequels. It's also the only one shot on film.

[Shark_Blade]

No.. noooo! That's not true! That's impossible!

Now I know you're a gimmick poster
Why so surprised? There's so many things to love with Ep.1 tbh.

Qui-Gon Jinn - Liam Neeson, hello? He's spoken like a true master, so gripping.
Young Obi Wan Kenobi - Ewan McGregor. Mhhmm, nuff said.
Queen Amidala - Natalie Portman. Strong female. Best wardrobe.
Darth Maul - the best villain in the entire series imo.
Planet Naboo and the Palace infrastructure. So beautiful.
Coruscant and the committee hearing place, so grand.

Kickass music of the entire series imo: Duel of Fates. Best climax fighting of jedis vs sith. So much more.

[snake]

Why so surprised? There's so many things to love with Ep.1 tbh.

Qui-Gon Jinn - Liam Neeson, hello? He's spoken like a true master, so gripping.
Young Obi Wan Kenobi - Ewan McGregor. Mhhmm, nuff said.
Queen Amidala - Natalie Portman. Strong female. Best wardrobe.
Darth Maul - the best villain in the entire series imo.
Planet Naboo and the Palace infrastructure. So beautiful.
Coruscant and the committee hearing place, so grand.

Kickass music of the entire series imo: Duel of Fates. Best climax fighting of jedis vs sith. So much more.

1. Qui Gon is a dumbass character that does nothing except bore the audience until he f*cks off and dies

2. Obi Wan sits in the ship and complains the entire movie

3. Darth Maul had 0 character. What a cool halloween costume.

4. Yeah, Naboo was nice. It didn't feel very star wars though

5. Nothing of interest happens on Coruscant.

Your reasons for liking the movie are all visual. If it's eye candy, you like it. Notice how you didn't mention the great writing, emotional moments, or the effect the movie had on you? Why not? Because the Phantom Menace has none of that and it sucks.

[sdp]

[QUOTE=snake;1629608]1. Qui Gon is awesome and everything I expected Obi Wan to be. Obi Wan I don't care for. Darth Maul works as a silent badass, we didn't need to see more of him, he's better that way just as Boba Fett was when we got more of his backstory and personality in Clone Wars the character suffered. Naboo isn't Star Warsy? What the hell, it's a universe tons of planets totally different what do you want another dessert planet like we got with Jakku? The politics in Coruscant are some of the best things in the prequels. Episode I has a story that mimics but doesn't rip off EpIV like VII does. You get a simple story but it works and sets up the trilogy, Qui Gon dying was done fairly well and I thought Anakin did a good job as well. Notice how everyone who bashes EpI nitpicks stupid details like Jar Jar, young Anakin and boring political scenes.

[CyberCubed]

Obi-Wan was underused in Episode 1 but that was obvious because Qui-gonn was awesome.

Obi-wan in Episode 3 especially was great, the best part of the movie.

[Shark_Blade]

1. Qui Gon is a dumbass character that does nothing except bore the audience until he f*cks off and dies

2. Obi Wan sits in the ship and complains the entire movie

3. Darth Maul had 0 character. What a cool halloween costume.

4. Yeah, Naboo was nice. It didn't feel very star wars though

5. Nothing of interest happens on Coruscant.

Your reasons for liking the movie are all visual. If it's eye candy, you like it. Notice how you didn't mention the great writing, emotional moments, or the effect the movie had on you? Why not? Because the Phantom Menace has none of that and it sucks.All visual? Your troll ass need to go back to kindergarten to learn how to read again and understand what people actually say.


1. Qui Gon is awesome and everything I expected Obi Wan to be. Obi Wan I don't care for. Darth Maul works as a silent badass, we didn't need to see more of him, he's better that way just as Boba Fett was when we got more of his backstory and personality in Clone Wars the character suffered. Naboo isn't Star Warsy? What the hell, it's a universe tons of planets totally different what do you want another dessert planet like we got with Jakku? The politics in Coruscant are some of the best things in the prequels. Episode I has a story that mimics but doesn't rip off EpIV like VII does. You get a simple story but it works and sets up the trilogy, Qui Gon dying was done fairly well and I thought Anakin did a good job as well. Notice how everyone who bashes EpI nitpicks stupid details like Jar Jar, young Anakin and boring political scenes.

Ditto. And Phantom Menace is the only film that was re-release in theaters recently, in glorious 3D nonetheless. It also has an accompanied soundtrack for that.

Ep.1 has a large following and it shows.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Phantom Menace is by FAR the best Star Wars films, It has all the best characters in. Yes Jar Jar is not as bad a everyone says. The film gets bandwagon hate.

I though the Episode 7 was the worst.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Ditto. And Phantom Menace is the only film that was re-release in theaters recently, in glorious 3D nonetheless. It also has an accompanied soundtrack for that.

Ep.1 has a large following and it shows.

The ONLY reason episode I was released in 3D was because they were planning to do the entire six-film saga in that format - TPM wasn't getting special treatment.

I notice how you didn't mention Jar Jar Binks, or midichlorians, or "traveling through the planet's core", or Jake Lloyd, or the awful pink tint the film has.

[Shark_Blade]

The ONLY reason episode I was released in 3D was because they were planning to do the entire six-film saga in that format - TPM wasn't getting special treatment.

I notice how you didn't mention Jar Jar Binks, or midichlorians, or "traveling through the planet's core", or Jake Lloyd, or the awful pink tint the film has.
Wrong. They planned only for the 3 prequels but only TPM prevailed. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_%E2%80%93_The_Phantom_Menace# 3D_re-release) ;) It does make TPM special til this day.

Notice how I don't care about your laughable silly 'nitpicks'. Jar Jar? He's just in a few short scenes, no biggie. Midichlorians? So what? the jedi concept is just a make believe too. I have no problem if they wanted to add more details to the lore. Planet's core? Anakin vs Obi-Wan hovering over hot burning lava was a lot more ridiculous and childish - they should've burned and died on the spot. Jake Lloyd? He did a good job. Pink tint? Never realize, never bugged me nor do I care.

Your problems; not mine and others who enjoy TPM. Just because you don't like it, who cares? In reality there's still many others who prefer TPM. :tcool:

Hayden Christensen's acting is a lot more atrocious and worse than anything in the whole series imo (which is why Ep 2 & 3 are very low in my list). Poorly acted overwrought emotional mess. Jar Jar has better composure than him even. :tlol: He's like a big baby when he's throwing tantrums or started to cry.
http://i.imgur.com/k4Rea8D.jpg

And people defending him are just silly. Oooh he lost his parents, he was seduced by the Dark side. So? Leia got her whole planet blown up. Luke got his family killed and he didn't fall into the dark side's invitation. They both didn't loose their marbles, they are much better characters than Anakin.

Comparing the twins, Leia is even better than Luke in that regard. :D Go away Anakin, no one needs you.
http://i.imgur.com/kEgbTdU.jpg

[Zak The Neutrino]

Phantom Menace is by FAR the best Star Wars films, It has all the best characters in. Yes Jar Jar is not as bad a everyone says. The film gets bandwagon hate.

I though the Episode 7 was the worst.

I really hope this is a bad joke or you are trying to troll here.

[ProactiveMan]

Ep.1 is a steamer, but I think Ep.2 may be the worst. It felt reactionary to me, like Uncle George was trying to clean up his mess by giving the people what they wanted. Unfortunately he had no idea what that was, but even so, he fell victim to one of the classic blunders. Never listen to your fans; most of them don't know what's good for them.

I'd like to have seen an Ep.2 and 3 written in a total vacuum. They probably wouldn't be great, but at least they wouldn't be compromised.

[Zak The Neutrino]

Ep.1 is a steamer, but I think Ep.2 may be the worst. It felt reactionary to me, like Uncle George was trying to clean up his mess by giving the people what they wanted. Unfortunately he had no idea what that was, but even so, he fell victim to one of the classic blunders. Never listen to your fans; most of them don't know what's good for them.

I'd like to have seen an Ep.2 and 3 written in a total vacuum. They probably wouldn't be great, but at least they wouldn't be compromised.

It really is. If you fast forward from Naboo to back to Naboo it's not that bad but that middle part of the movie is crap.

Ep 2 is just horrible and the worst movie of all 7. Only the last 30 minutes are entertaining.

Ep 1-3 would have been much better was one movie taking out a lot of the side BS.

[TigerClaw]

It really is. If you fast forward from Naboo to back to Naboo it's not that bad but that middle part of the movie is crap.

Ep 2 is just horrible and the worst movie of all 7. Only the last 30 minutes are entertaining.

Ep 1-3 would have been much better was one movie taking out a lot of the side BS.
EP 1 has its moments, The Podrace, The 3 way Lightsaber fight.

Same for EP 2 and 3, if you look pass all that stuff, and just look at those epic action scenes.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Hayden Christensen's acting is a lot more atrocious and worse than anything in the whole series imo (which is why Ep 2 & 3 are very low in my list).

At least we agree on something. Christensen is a horrible actor and his poor performance was compounded by Lucas's laughable dialogue.

I wonder what the first cut of The Phantom Menace was like. Lucas initially is said to have had a fairly solid first couple of cuts of the film, but then people told him to change his mind about a bunch of things.

[Zak The Neutrino]

At least we agree on something. Christensen is a horrible actor and his poor performance was compounded by Lucas's laughable dialogue.

I wonder what the first cut of The Phantom Menace was like. Lucas initially is said to have had a fairly solid first couple of cuts of the film, but then people told him to change his mind about a bunch of things.

I want to know how Christensen got through casting. For the most part I think ep1-3 were cast with really good actors. How the hell do you drop the ball on your most important character?

[Andrew NDB]

I want to know how Christensen got through casting. For the most part I think ep1-3 were cast with really good actors. How the hell do you drop the ball on your most important character?

He's fine in other movies, I don't know that it's his fault.

Apparently Leonardo DiCaprio was up for the part at one point. That would have been... interesting.

[Spike Spiegel]

Anybody seen this?

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[TheSkeletonMan939]

I'm revising my ranking

5
4
6
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Holiday Special
1

[Zak The Neutrino]

I'm revising my ranking

5
4
6
3
2
7
Holiday Special
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What about the Ewok Movies?

I don't know how any of you guys can rank any of the prequels higher than 7.

My rank is

5
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7
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Ewok Movies
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[Zak The Neutrino]

He's fine in other movies, I don't know that it's his fault.

Apparently Leonardo DiCaprio was up for the part at one point. That would have been... interesting.

I think Leo would have done an awesome job. I think back to his performance in the departed when he was stuck in that bad vs good. It could have been great.

[CyberCubed]

If it weren't due to a few odd writing choices and scenes, Episode 3 could have been as good as the original movies.

[Zak The Neutrino]

If it weren't due to a few odd writing choices and scenes, Episode 3 could have been as good as the original movies.

My huge issues with 3 has always been so Dooku kicks the crap out of Kenobi. Then Anakin kicks the crap out of Dooku. Then after Anakin gives into his fear and hate to become more powerful we are supposed to believe that Kenobi defeats him? Not buying it.

[Andrew NDB]

If it weren't due to a few odd writing choices and scenes, Episode 3 could have been as good as the original movies.

I'd have cut out about half of that Anakin/Obi-Wan fight. It was ridiculous. Like, "ZOMG, how possibly epic can we make this fight??? They can f*ckin' like, jump around on and fight on lava hover boards'n sh*t!" Ugh...

The rest of 3 was mostly OK.

[snake]

The holiday special is on a whole nother level of sh*t. I'll take prequels over that shitshow anyday

[ToTheNines]

I'd have cut out about half of that Anakin/Obi-Wan fight. It was ridiculous. Like, "ZOMG, how possibly epic can we make this fight??? They can f*ckin' like, jump around on and fight on lava hover boards'n sh*t!" Ugh...

The rest of 3 was mostly OK.

https://media.tenor.co/images/b18f58e5bab16d820416412fe0696ca1/raw

[ProactiveMan]

I'd have cut out about half of that Anakin/Obi-Wan fight. It was ridiculous. Like, "ZOMG, how possibly epic can we make this fight??? They can f*ckin' like, jump around on and fight on lava hover boards'n sh*t!" Ugh...

The rest of 3 was mostly OK.

They lost me when they were swinging past each other on cables like the idiot offspring of Tarzan and Errol Flynn. Not only was it pointless, it looked ridiculous.

[CyberCubed]

Episode 8 should be the "Empire Strikes back" of the new trilogy, given this will focus on Luke and his relation with Rey, they'll better establish the underdeveloped villains, and hopefully they'll raise the stakes for the finale.

Mark Hammil didn't get in shape for no reason. We better see Luke doing lots of things in this movie.

[Spike Spiegel]

They lost me when they were swinging past each other on cables like the idiot offspring of Tarzan and Errol Flynn. Not only was it pointless, it looked ridiculous.

The Auralnauts made a musical parody of the film's climax that highlights the more absurd parts of it.

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[sdp]

Now I'm not a fan of many things Ep.III did or like the Obi Wan v Vader fight but all those gifs and videos making fun of it aren't a very good representation of the movie, they look goofy because they're being looped and don't actually look like that in the movie.

It just goes to show how prequel haters are a bunch of sheep who repeat the same thing others have criticized to death without looking much into it. Ep.III is filled with terrible things and they choose that?

[Spike Spiegel]

Now I'm not a fan of many things Ep.III did or like the Obi Wan v Vader fight but all those gifs and videos making fun of it aren't a very good representation of the movie, they look goofy because they're being looped and don't actually look like that in the movie.

It just goes to show how prequel haters are a bunch of sheep who repeat the same thing others have criticized to death without looking much into it. Ep.III is filled with terrible things and they choose that?

The worst parts of the prequels aren't any more terrible than all the cringeworthy stuff from IV and VI. If the CGI existed in the late '70s/early '80s, they'd probably be even more similar. I guess nostalgia blinds people.

IMO, Empire cut out a lot of the schlocky plot elements and awkward line delivery that pervades the others.

[ranger_scout]

Daisy Ridley hints that Rey's parents will be revealed in this film.

http://comicbook.com/2016/10/25/daisy-ridley-hints-reys-parents-will-be-revealed-in-star-wars-ep/

[Andrew NDB]

What about the Ewok Movies?

Actually really worth checking out. The first one is kind of whimsical, but even then a bit epic in itself. The second one... wow, surprisingly dark. Very surprisingly dark. In like the first 5 minutes the little girl's little brother (the main character in part 1) and whole family from the first one get murdered, then she goes out for revenge.

Is there a general consensus that these take place before or after Return of the Jedi? Because I've read reasoned arguments both ways.

The worst parts of the prequels aren't any more terrible than all the cringeworthy stuff from IV and VI. If the CGI existed in the late '70s/early '80s, they'd probably be even more similar. I guess nostalgia blinds people.

Correct.

Episode 8 should be the "Empire Strikes back" of the new trilogy

As slavish as they appear to be to every nuance of the OT, I'm sure this is the general idea.

[ToTheNines]

The worst parts of the prequels aren't any more terrible than all the cringeworthy stuff from IV and VI. If the CGI existed in the late '70s/early '80s, they'd probably be even more similar. I guess nostalgia blinds people.

IMO, Empire cut out a lot of the schlocky plot elements and awkward line delivery that pervades the others.

Totally agree about VI, but IV is perfect.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

The original film has some wooden acting in a few parts, but nothing comes CLOSE to some of the delivery in VI. Especially the part where Han gives Lando the Falcon. That part felt like a parody of gay acting or something.

[Zak The Neutrino]

Actually really worth checking out. The first one is kind of whimsical, but even then a bit epic in itself. The second one... wow, surprisingly dark. Very surprisingly dark. In like the first 5 minutes the little girl's little brother (the main character in part 1) and whole family from the first one get murdered, then she goes out for revenge.

Is there a general consensus that these take place before or after Return of the Jedi? Because I've read reasoned arguments both ways.



Correct.



As slavish as they appear to be to every nuance of the OT, I'm sure this is the general idea.

I was asking as in where do people rank them in their rankings. I bought the Ewok movies on DVD when they came out about 8 years ago.

I always assumed these were after ROTJ.

[Andrew NDB]

I was asking as in where do people rank them in their rankings.

I don't think you really can. There's no... star wars in them.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm pretty sure it was already poised to at least meet the same box office as "The Force Awakens," but does anyone think that Carrie Fisher's passing, particularly with her having completed her role (along with everyone else back in July so I'm not sure why this is suddenly news on all the sites) in the film which is reportedly larger than her role in VII (albeit, which isn't saying much)... is going to galvanize audiences into making Episode VIII an even bigger hit than it was already going to be in a Heath Ledger manner?

[snake]

I'm pretty sure it was already poised to at least meet the same box office as "The Force Awakens," but does anyone think that Carrie Fisher's passing, particularly with her having completed her role (along with everyone else back in July so I'm not sure why this is suddenly news on all the sites) in the film which is reportedly larger than her role in VII (albeit, which isn't saying much)... is going to galvanize audiences into making Episode VIII an even bigger hit than it was already going to be in a Heath Ledger manner?

Is it possible to get bigger than TFA? I mean, CAN you get bigger than TFA?

[sdp]

Hard to tell, TFA had the advantage of being a new SW movie in 10 years that continued the story of the original movies, I'm sure Carrie's death will get people who wouldn't have watched it to check it out but I'm not sure if it's enough from people who checked it out because it was a new SW. Remember this will be the third SW movie released by Disney being set apart by 3 years. I'm not saying it'll do badly but I don't think it'll blow away TFA in numbers, it''ll do similar numbers I'm guessing maybe a little bit more but most likely less even if not by a lot. But it's early to tell maybe the trailers are very engaging and Luke's role will get people to see it more excited than before.

[CyberCubed]

It could very likely do better than Episode 7 in terms of box office. Carrie's death, plus this movie people expect to be an improvement or new direction for the movies since this is the second film and all the introductory stuff is over, not to mention Mark Hammil's first major role in these movies...I can see it easily.

Episode 8 will probably be the highest grossing of these new movies. Carrie's death, Mark Hammil's first big role, seeing Rey/Finn etc. return for a better movie...etc.

[ToTheNines]

I'm pretty sure it was already poised to at least meet the same box office as "The Force Awakens," but does anyone think that Carrie Fisher's passing, particularly with her having completed her role (along with everyone else back in July so I'm not sure why this is suddenly news on all the sites) in the film which is reportedly larger than her role in VII (albeit, which isn't saying much)... is going to galvanize audiences into making Episode VIII an even bigger hit than it was already going to be in a Heath Ledger manner?

I don't think so. All the passionate fans were already going to see it anyways. All the hashtagging lemmings will have moved on long before next December and will be pretending to care about some other dead celebrity.

[NinjaPug]

'Star Wars' Braintrust Sets Meeting to Plot Leia's Life After Carrie Fisher's Death

Disney weighs options for the future of the iconic character as directors for the upcoming 'Episode VIII' and 2019's 'Episode IX' plan out how she will fit into the rest of the franchise films.

Carrie Fisher's Dec. 27 death has left a disturbance in the Force. Her iconic Princess Leia is set to appear in the next two Star Wars films, and insiders tell The Hollywood Reporter that at least two key scenes are planned for Episode VIII (Dec. 15) and Episode IX (2019): a Leia reunion with Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill) and a confrontation with Kylo Ren (Adam Driver), her son who killed Harrison Ford's Han Solo in 2015's The Force Awakens.

Details of where those scenes fit into the movies remain unclear, but insiders say Leia was to have been a bigger part of Episode IX than VIII. Episode VIII director Rian Johnson has finished shooting, but Episode IX doesn't have a start date; both Force Awakens and Episode VIII began production at the beginning of a year so it is very likely that Episode IX will begin shooting in early 2018 for a December 2019 release. And the status of its script, being written by Colin Trevorrow and Derek Connolly, is unknown. (Disney won't comment.)

Trevorrow, the filmmaker behind Jurassic World who is directing Episode IX, is due to arrive in L.A. the week of Jan. 10 for meetings with Lucasfilm's Kathleen Kennedy to discuss options. But unlike in other cases where actors died during the filmmaking process — Paul Walker in Furious 7 comes to mind — it appears that the team has time to explore solutions.

(As well as time to grieve. As one insider puts it, "People are still deeply mourning Carrie's death over there.")

Leia could be written out and her scenes reshot, options not unheard of in the Star Wars universe. Rogue One went through a major overhaul and was met with glowing reviews and blockbuster box office. Episode VIII also went through a major rewrite with Johnson, who had to overhaul his script after he saw the significant changes J.J. Abrams made to the overarching Star Wars story thanks to his extensive postproduction work during Force Awakens. (Johnson had based his script on Force Awakens' earlier drafts.)

Another solution is to use CGI effects; a reduced role could mean Leia would only appear in glimpses. "Rogue One is the road map," says one Star Wars source, referring to Lucasfilm resurrecting Peter Cushing and making Fisher young again in the current hit.

"I have no doubt, given some of the recent work I've seen, there are filmmakers who will be willing to take up the challenge," says Michael Fink, an Oscar-winning VFX supervisor who teaches at USC. But, "so far, we have seen moments of success but not full performances." He says there's also ethics to weigh: "Should we create additional roles for Princess Leia? I don't think so."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/carrie-fisher-episode-viii-how-star-wars-will-handle-leias-future-960849

[NinjaPug]

Episode VIII officially titled The Last Jedi

https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/screen-shot-2017-01-23-at-8-02-02-am.png?w=740&h=386&crop=1

[The Deadman]

Star Wars: Episode VIII Title Officially Revealed as Star Wars: The Last Jedi!
(http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/806003-star-wars-episode-viii-title-officially-revealed-as-star-wars-the-last-jedi#/slide/1)

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I like it. It also makes me think of "The Last Samurai", which is fitting, considering the original Star Wars movie was a Westernized sci-fi retelling of "The Hidden Fortress."

[TurtleTitan97]

I like it. It also makes me think of "The Last Samurai", which is fitting, considering the original Star Wars movie was a Westernized sci-fi retelling of "The Hidden Fortress."

^ Agreed. Good title choice.

[Andrew NDB]

Sounds like fanfiction. Like all the fan-rumored titles of the prequels, "Fall of the Republic," etc. etc..

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Sounds like fanfiction. Like all the fan-rumored titles of the prequels, "Fall of the Republic," etc. etc..

If you're keeping titles short and memorable, there aren't that many options.

It's also better than "The Force Awakens", which I think was the weakest title choice ever. Of course, I also didn't put much thought into a better alternative...

[Andrew NDB]

It also doesn't track well. "Return of the Jedi," "The Force Awakens"... "The Last Jedi"? Huh? Already, 2 movies later? They just returned!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It also doesn't track well. "Return of the Jedi," "The Force Awakens"... "The Last Jedi"? Huh? Already, 2 movies later? They just returned!

Not necessarily. If Luke Skywalker was the last Jedi (before Rey), and his fate/disappearance/rediscovery is a critical part of the overall story, then it makes sense.

It seems to me that if any title was unduly optimistic, it'd be "ROTJ." One dude comes back, blows up another Death Star, kills the Emperor, and then runs away when his nephew turns to the Dark Side.

Well thanks a lot, Luke. You're a terrible uncle.

[snake]

Good title!

[ToTheNines]

Sounds like fanfiction.

Because it is lol.


It seems to me that if any title was unduly optimistic, it'd be "ROTJ." One dude comes back, blows up another Death Star, kills the Emperor, and then runs away when his nephew turns to the Dark Side.

The "Jedi" in ROTJ was Anakin.

[snake]

The "Jedi" in ROTJ was Anakin.

Holy sh*t, dude. I never thought of it like that. Wow.

[Jester]

Episode VIII officially titled The Last Jedi

https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/screen-shot-2017-01-23-at-8-02-02-am.png?w=740&h=386&crop=1
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[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Holy sh*t, dude. I never thought of it like that. Wow.

The "Jedi" in ROTJ was Anakin.

Neither did I. Wow... mind blown. :tlol:

[plastroncafe]

The Last Jedi?

Did everything change when the First Order attacked?

[TurtleTitan97]

The Last Jedi?

Did everything change when the First Order attacked?

I understood that reference. :lol:

[CyberCubed]

So Luke never bothered to train a whole new young generation of Jedi in the new continuity? Seems rather odd that there are no new Jedi around at all 30 years later.

[snake]

So Luke never bothered to train a whole new young generation of Jedi in the new continuity? Seems rather odd that there are no new Jedi around at all 30 years later.

But...he...did?

[TurtleTitan97]

So Luke never bothered to train a whole new young generation of Jedi in the new continuity? Seems rather odd that there are no new Jedi around at all 30 years later.

What are you talking about? Did you completely ignore that backstory from TFA about how Kylo Ren betrayed Luke and slaughtered all the Jedi he was training?

[plastroncafe]

Leave Cubed to his Alt-Truths.
He's happier there.

[CyberCubed]

Everyone at neogaf thinks Luke is going to die:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1336946

[snake]

Everyone at neogaf thinks Luke is going to die:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1336946

Stop linking to that place.

[CyberCubed]

Its better than reddit, 4chan, etc. I don't see what the problem is.

[The Deadman]

Its better than reddit, 4chan, etc. I don't see what the problem is.

Not really. Besides, people were speculating long before the title came out that Luke was going to die in either this one or Ep. 9

[CyberCubed]

I don't think they're going to kill off Luke now that Carrie passed in real life. Maybe the original plan was going to kill Luke, but no way are they not going to have at least 1 of the main characters of the original trilogy survive the new one.

[Andrew NDB]

There is 0 reason to believe they were going to kill Luke in Episode VIII. Maybe tentatively in IX, but even if such plans existed in any form, they'd more than likely probably be thrown out the window with Carrie dying and Han Solo being killed off.

[sdp]

The Last Jedi wasn't that the point of the OT where he was basically even if not technically the last one? I guess Episode VIII will continue the rehashing of the OT, the more OT with the han solo prequel for more pandering and finish off Episode IX with more OT.

Say what you want about the prequels but I'll take Lucas' Sequel Trilogy any day over a remake of the OT.


The "Jedi" in ROTJ was Anakin.
That's kind of a retcon though, it's obviously meant to be Luke.

Its better than reddit, 4chan, etc. I don't see what the problem is.

No it's not that forum is trash full of SJWs were if you don't fit their hivemind mentality they kick any different opinion out which means every opinion is the flippin' same; have fun reading autistic replies. 4chan might be NSFW and too fast to have any worthwhile arguments and Reddit being a SFW 4chan but at least there are different opinions. No to mention their speculation is usually wrong.

[TigerClaw]

Now that we know the official title, Will need to change the topic to it.

[CyberCubed]

No it's not that forum is trash full of SJWs were if you don't fit their hivemind mentality they kick any different opinion out which means every opinion is the flippin' same; have fun reading autistic replies. 4chan might be NSFW and too fast to have any worthwhile arguments and Reddit being a SFW 4chan but at least there are different opinions. No to mention their speculation is usually wrong.

I've been visiting neogaf since 2012 and haven't seen any of that. It's a pretty diverse community, both the gaming side and the off-topic side for movies/tv shows/politics, etc.

[Andrew NDB]

Say what you want about the prequels but I'll take Lucas' Sequel Trilogy any day over a remake of the OT.

Oh me too, without question.

[CyberCubed]

I expect Episode 8 and 9 to be really good and unique.

Episode 7 just had the burden of having to restore faith after the prequels, introduced the new main characters, show old Han and Leia, and then set-up new villains. The whole movie was basically a set-up movie.

Same reason characters like Snoke and Kylo Ren feeling underdeveloped don't bother me, because I know they'll fix that in the next movies.

[TigerClaw]

Keep in mind that Jedi is a plural and singular.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I expect Episode 8 and 9 to be really good and unique.

Episode 7 just had the burden of having to restore faith after the prequels, introduced the new main characters, show old Han and Leia, and then set-up new villains. The whole movie was basically a set-up movie.

Same reason characters like Snoke and Kylo Ren feeling underdeveloped don't bother me, because I know they'll fix that in the next movies.

And yet, I'm personally quite worried that we're in for "The Empire Strikes Back" 2.0...

[Andrew NDB]

Episode 7 just had the burden of having to restore faith after the prequels, introduced the new main characters, show old Han and Leia, and then set-up new villains. The whole movie was basically a set-up movie.

It didn't need to be. Not remotely. It wasn't like Episodes 1-3 were flops (the opposite)... and just the fact that Luke, Leia, and Han were going to be in the movie would have been enough for all the "old jaded fans" regardless of the presence of a third Death Star, identical shots on a desert planet, etc., etc..

[sdp]

I expect Episode 8 and 9 to be really good and unique.

Episode 7 just had the burden of having to restore faith after the prequels, introduced the new main characters, show old Han and Leia, and then set-up new villains. The whole movie was basically a set-up movie.

Same reason characters like Snoke and Kylo Ren feeling underdeveloped don't bother me, because I know they'll fix that in the next movies.

Episode IV and I did just fine, this movie was too busy setting up a trilogy instead of focusing on the actual movie a mistake all new franchises make to make "trilogies' which Star Wars never had that problem.

You don't need to "restore" faith, that's the dumbest thing ever, most people love the prequels in the general audience and Disney continues to market them. I love the new good guys but rehashing the plot of A New Hope, having the empire basically still be there after 30 years, and making lame villains doesn't help. This should've been a new take just like the prequels were. Rogue one already focused on the same nostalgia, is that all they plan to do? I had hope for Episode VIII but the set up in VII is already too similar to the OT for it to differ and this new title isn't helping my faith in it. If Disney continues like this they'll drive Star Wars to the ground.

I've been visiting neogaf since 2012 and haven't seen any of that. It's a pretty diverse community, both the gaming side and the off-topic side for movies/tv shows/politics, etc.

Diverse? Not at all it's a SJW/Liberal hotspot been there since 2006 and frequented it for years but the level of autism, elitism, whininess, made it impossible for me to continue frequenting it, 10 years ago that forum was the place to be for news/opinios, today? not so much. The bad outdoes the good. I pretty much spent the last few posts I was there arguing with people's narrow minded ideas until I got banned for pointing out it was ridiculous for someone to be offended that the Pokemon games only included "boy and girl" options. That really bummed me out as I had years of archiving informational threads there through subscriptions which I now can't get through, I should've just avoided the forum so I could've kept them.

[Andrew NDB]

You don't need to "restore" faith, that's the dumbest thing ever, most people love the prequels in the general audience and Disney continues to market them.

My daughter watched all of the Star Wars movies and was highly entertained... but barely slogged through IV-VI. "Too boring." She started to watch VII on my insistence a little later that she'd like it because it features a young lady as the main character... she fell asleep somewhere around where Rey gets the lightsaber from the alien chick.

[Andrew NDB]

Here's a question... obviously he can use the Force and he was taught briefly (collectively maybe 3 days... maybe) by a couple of Jedi, but can Luke even call himself a Jedi? He was never inducted into or was otherwise a part of their order, never went through the conditioning, never even set foot in a Jedi temple, and he was never a padawan or anything.

Seems to me Anakin remains (well, until he died, anyway) the titular last Jedi.

[plastroncafe]

Here's a question... obviously he can use the Force and he was taught briefly (collectively maybe 3 days... maybe) by a couple of Jedi, but can Luke even call himself a Jedi? He was never inducted into or was otherwise a part of their order, never went through the conditioning, never even set foot in a Jedi temple, and he was never a padawan or anything.

Seems to me Anakin remains (well, until he died, anyway) the titular last Jedi.

This assumes that ALL the other Jedi were dead at the end of Jedi.
We had Yoda and Obi Wan, who's to say others didn't come out of the woodwork when they learned Vader was dead.

Rylo Ren killed/destroyed the new temple Luke was building, we know this much from Han.

So now...now Luke might be the last Jedi.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I always assumed that Luke visited Dagobah repeatedly between ESB and RotJ.

[Andrew NDB]

This assumes that ALL the other Jedi were dead at the end of Jedi.
We had Yoda and Obi Wan, who's to say others didn't come out of the woodwork when they learned Vader was dead.

Rylo Ren killed/destroyed the new temple Luke was building, we know this much from Han.

So now...now Luke might be the last Jedi.

I guess so.

I really think Lucas was trying to make a distinction between "I can use the Force" vs. "I'm a Jedi" or "I'm a Sith." In fact, the prequels made the Jedi Order itself seem kind of inept (unable to detect the Sith Lord in their midst) and inherently flawed (if you join the Jedi, you can never love, you have to basically give up your family, etc.). I believe any Lucas-written third trilogy would have probably gotten away from Jedi Knights/masters, that sort of stuff.

[plastroncafe]

They're monastic warrior monks/nuns. Not marrying, having earthly attachments, isn't exactly a new concept in fiction or the real world.

[Shark_Blade]

Goodbye Luke Skywalker... the last Jedi is Rey. :tcry:

[Andrew NDB]

Goodbye Luke Skywalker... the last Jedi is Rey. :tcry:

She's not even a Jedi. Just some Force sensitive chick who figured out how to move a lightsaber at a critical moment.

[Cure]

Jedi can also be plural, like The Last Samurai. Tom Cruise wasn't the last one, people, it was all of them.

[Andrew NDB]

Jedi can also be plural, like The Last Samurai.

Yeah, I get that. Same as Sith. I always took "Return of the Jedi" as plural.

[Cure]

I didn't mean you specifically, just throwing it out there. You all have good points and it can mean anything.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Do foreign languages have a plural for the word 'Jedi'?
If so, has Disney offered an official translation for the film's title in any of those languages?

[CyberCubed]

I haven't been following, are both Finn and Rey going to become Jedi or only one of them?

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I don't know, idiot, no one here has seen the movie.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I haven't been following, are both Finn and Rey going to become Jedi or only one of them?

#1. No indication that anyone other than Rey is Force-sensitive.
#2. Look at how closely VII mirrored IV: the desert orphan was the only Force sensitive character (Rey/Luke), the wanted antihero was decidedly NOT Force sensitive yet was absolutely necessary to the desert orphan's success (Finn/Han), and the beautiful damsel in distress had to be rescued from Imperial torture and interrogation (Poe/Leia).

Princess Poe... eh, doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

[Jephael]

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[CyberCubed]

I don't know, idiot, no one here has seen the movie.

Is there something wrong with you?

[MikeandRaph87]

Should Return of The Jedi be changed in its title since episode 8 is The Last Jedi? They restart beginning with Luke then reference the same again only that he is alone in his generation. Maybe I am overthinking it.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Is there something wrong with you?

I assumed that that was just another one of your troll posts, so I gave your stupid question a stupid answer. If it was actually in earnest then I apologize.

[ToTheNines]

That's kind of a retcon though, it's obviously meant to be Luke.

How is it a retcon? Vader was known as a fallen Jedi from day one. And you see his force ghost in Jedi robes at the end.

I always assumed that Luke visited Dagobah repeatedly between ESB and RotJ.

Well there's only about 1 year between Empire and Jedi. And I'm pretty sure (at least in the old canon) that Luke spent most of that time on Tatooine reading Ben's journal, building his light saber, and plotting to take down Jabba.

Is there something wrong with you?

Shut up, cuck.

[TigerClaw]

Rian Johnson just posted an image with a tease of the Opening Crawl.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPqBSPZBRoo/

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/16230797_1105437266233264_2275099865237159936_n.jp g?ig_cache_key=MTQzNDk2NTA4Mjc5MzkwODc3Ng%3D%3D.2

[Andrew NDB]

Another question... was Obi-Wan really a Jedi Master? He was only a Jedi Knight at the time of his exodus to Tatooine. Did he just wake up one day and go, "I'm a master now"?

[ToTheNines]

Obi-Wan became a Master between II and III.

[Spike Spiegel]

Has the passage of time caused anyone else to reassess their feelings about The Force Awakens?

I saw it opening day and was gushing about it to all my friends. Then I watched it again and kind of hated it after realizing that it was a carbon copy of IV. Later I realized that I still like Finn as a character. So now I am cautiously optimistic about the rest of the trilogy, though I am not interested in any other spin offs.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

It wasn't as bad for me the second time around, but that was because I knew all the crap the film would throw at me in advance. No sad surprises that time.

[MikeandRaph87]

Has the passage of time caused anyone else to reassess their feelings about The Force Awakens?

I saw it opening day and was gushing about it to all my friends. Then I watched it again and kind of hated it after realizing that it was a carbon copy of IV. Later I realized that I still like Finn as a character. So now I am cautiously optimistic about the rest of the trilogy, though I am not interested in any other spin offs.

If it was not for Darth Vadar I would not have cared about Rogue One. It was a smart movie giving him a minor role to get interest of those like me thus $. I admit I am not all about The Force Awakens like I was as I anticipated the film and the first time I saw it, but I do like it. Seeing it three times now its plot can be summed up in a paragraph. Not as much happens as one thinks when first seeing it. I can also see that Han bringing the group together was a solid plot for the character but do not feel his death accomplish anything only hatred towards Ben Solo's character and not the good kind of hate like his grandfather. It does however get me interested in more because I am very eagar to see what happens with Luke and Rey on the island.

[CyberCubed]

If it was not for Darth Vadar I would not have cared about Rogue One. It was a smart movie giving him a minor role to get interest of those like me thus $.

Really? Nothing else about Rogue One intrigued you to see it if Darth Vader didn't get his 3 minutes of screentime in the film?

[MikeandRaph87]

Really? Nothing else about Rogue One intrigued you to see it if Darth Vader didn't get his 3 minutes of screentime in the film?

That is correct. I was on the edge of my seat leaning forward with a child-like grin the whole time Vadar appeared in the two scenes. Loved it just for that. I mean, we know the Death Star plans had a built in weakness and the plans were stolen to give to the Rebellion and leads into A New Hope. The cast would likely not make it out a live since they don't appear in the original trilogy. So my investment could not be made in the characters,but in Darth Vader alone, my second favorite villain overall after The Shredder.

[Shark_Blade]

I personally think Rogue One is vastly superior to Force Awakens.

[Andrew NDB]

I personally think Rogue One is vastly superior to Force Awakens.

It's definitely the lesser of two evils. If only because it wasn't a scene-for-scene remake.

[CyberCubed]

I plan on seeing all the upcoming Star Wars spinoffs, the only one I'm cautious about is young Han Solo for obvious reasons. No way can the actor pull off Harrisson Ford's mannerisms and voice, and re-casting an iconic character like that with a guy who is already an adult just doesn't sit well with me.

And now that they're already re-casting one of the original three, what's to stop them from doing it for Luke or Leia in other spinoff movies in the future?

[ToTheNines]

I plan on seeing all the upcoming Star Wars spinoffs

In January, right??? We're dying to know.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

In January, right??? We're dying to know.

:tlol:

Redbox or bust.

[DestronMirage22]

:tlol:

Redbox or bust.

Agreed. These newer SW movies that have come out definitely haven't been worth the full admission, and I'm sure this one won't be any different.

[Spike Spiegel]

Agreed. These newer SW movies that have come out definitely haven't been worth the full admission, and I'm sure this one won't be any different.

I definitely won't be on the hype train this time.

But I hope VIII is at least moderately good.

[Andrew NDB]

Really? Nothing else about Rogue One intrigued you to see it if Darth Vader didn't get his 3 minutes of screentime in the film?

That is correct.

This kind of makes me sad. Disney literally had most of the movie reshot just to accommodate the OT fetishists hungry for more Vader... and here you are.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I think I'm in the minority when I say that my preferred RO Vader scene was his discussion with Krennic. Lots of little subtle nods to his mannerisms in the original film: the pointing, the tinge of wit, even the red eyes.

[The Deadman]

Harrison Ford in The Last Jedi!?
http://moviehole.net/2017112295harrison-ford-last-jedi

[Andrew NDB]

Harrison Ford in The Last Jedi!?
http://moviehole.net/2017112295harrison-ford-last-jedi

There aren't flashbacks in the episodic SW movies (no, Rey's Force trip in 7 doesn't count). But Han might have left some holographic... something behind that will be played at his funeral (which we have been told we'll see in this).

[CyberCubed]

Either that or they find his dead body, and Harrison Ford gets paid just for lying dead on a table.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Do foreign languages have a plural for the word 'Jedi'?
If so, has Disney offered an official translation for the film's title in any of those languages?

Looks like I had a good hunch.
http://www.dailydot.com/parsec/the-last-jedi-title-translation-plural/

The Brazilian translation seemingly suggested a singular, male Jedi when the title was first announced. However, several new translated titles were just revealed on official Star Wars social media accounts, including plural translations like the Italian Gli Ultimi Jedi.

[Andrew NDB]

I still say a new "good" Force user order is going to start. That's not called "Jedi."

[NinjaPug]

That's my guess too. I think Luke will put the archaic ways of the Jedi to rest in this movie.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I hope so. There's no reason at all to want to restore the "Jedi Order". The Jedi Order was the worst, most ineffectual band of morons in the galaxy. Forget the Jedi, Luke, just do your own thing.

[Andrew NDB]

That's my guess too. I think Luke will put the archaic ways of the Jedi to rest in this movie.

Yep. It doesn't mean he's dying, either.

[NinjaPug]

I hope so. There's no reason at all to want to restore the "Jedi Order". The Jedi Order was the worst, most ineffectual band of morons in the galaxy. Forget the Jedi, Luke, just do your own thing.

Plus he tried rebuilding the Order after ROTJ and it failed again

[CyberCubed]

Anyone get the feeling Finn and Poe will be marginalized in this movie completely? It's probably going to focus almost entirely on Rey and Luke, and whatever scenes Leia has in the movie.

[Shark_Blade]

I look forward to Finn making out with Poe.

Finn is still wearing Poe's jacket in the sequel I see. :D

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Anyone get the feeling Finn and Poe will be marginalized in this movie completely? It's probably going to focus almost entirely on Rey and Luke, and whatever scenes Leia has in the movie.

That would be great. I don't care about Finn or Poe at all.

[Andrew NDB]

As long as they have enough going on to justify their presences I'm fine with them being marginalized. And what's-her-name Chrometrooper better actually do something this time.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I thought she blew up.

[CyberCubed]

That would be great. I don't care about Finn or Poe at all.

Finn's role is basically the funny comic relief black guy, like Chris Tucker, Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, Danny Glover, or any of the other token sidekick black guys in big movies.

I expect him to have a lot of funny scenes, but nothing in terms of the main plot.

[sdp]

It's also a plural translation in spanish "Los Ultimos Jedi" I saw it this morning.
As long as they have enough going on to justify their presences I'm fine with them being marginalized. And what's-her-name Chrometrooper better actually do something this time.

Captain Phasma was such a cool character and while it would've been disappointing that she had a tiny role what killed her character for me was how easily she was disposed of and "put her in the garbage disposal". Wow, with that line they killed any hope to ever have her be a legitimate threat.

[CyberCubed]

She's basically this generations version of Boba Fett. The cool looking character in the movie who everyone likes yet the character themselves never actually do anything interesting in said movies.

[Andrew NDB]

She's basically this generations version of Boba Fett. The cool looking character in the movie who everyone likes yet the character themselves never actually do anything interesting in said movies.

Though it'd kind of more be like... if Boba Fett ended up in the Sarlacc Pit in Empire, and with even less screentime than Boba in Empire. That's Phasma so far.

[ZariusTwo]

They may be reshoots and several of Carrie's scenes could be left out

http://www.cinemablend.com/news/1628790/star-wars-the-last-jedi-reshoots-may-affect-carrie-fishers-role-in-the-sequel

[Andrew NDB]

They may be reshoots and several of Carrie's scenes could be left out

http://www.cinemablend.com/news/1628790/star-wars-the-last-jedi-reshoots-may-affect-carrie-fishers-role-in-the-sequel

Since I believe they'd want to use pretty much everything Carrie shot for Episode 8, I believe it'd be to pad out what she shot, possibly "saving" some of the footage and shifting it into Episode 9, or just working in some kind of death.

Though I doubt death. That'd be very poor taste. The actress dies, and less than a year later they retroactively make her character die in Episode 8? That's horrible. If I had to bet, I'd bet it'd be the former... pad out what they have, save some Fisher footage for 9 and kill Leia somehow in that one. Or they could just begin with Episode 9 mentioning Leia's death in the opening crawl. Probably that, actually.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

If they're going to kill off Leia between episode 8 and 9 (I guess they pretty much have to) I'd rather it not be in the opening crawl at all; that'd be a rather impersonal way to break the news.

[CyberCubed]

Isn't her real life daughter Billie Lourd one of the people in the film? Why don't they just give Leia's role in Episode 9 to her instead? It would be a nice tribute to her mother in real life.

[MikeandRaph87]

Isn't her real life daughter Billie Lourd one of the people in the film? Why don't they just give Leia's role in Episode 9 to her instead? It would be a nice tribute to her mother in real life.

She is just a background character. I believe they met in January to decide if an actress such as the one in Rouge One or Billie herself be the body double with a digital face of the deceased plastered on them in post production like with Grand Moff Tarkin. It seems they decided not to. I know it sucks especially when it seemed she would be the center classic character of Episode 9.

[Andrew NDB]

I know it sucks especially when it seemed she would be the center classic character of Episode 9.

She wouldn't have been. She specifically agreed to reprise Leia only on the condition that it required no heavy lifting, acting-wise. But now she would have probably been in 9 more than 7.

[CyberCubed]

She is just a background character. I believe they met in January to decide if an actress such as the one in Rouge One or Billie herself be the body double with a digital face of the deceased plastered on them in post production like with Grand Moff Tarkin. It seems they decided not to. I know it sucks especially when it seemed she would be the center classic character of Episode 9.

So make Billie Lourd's character into a slightly more important character. Basically on the level of Wedge Antilles in the original films. Wedge wasn't a major character, he had a small supporting role but still memorable enough for people to remember him all these years.

[TigerClaw]

Mark Hamill & Daisy Ridley’s Epic Star Wars: Force For Change Announcement

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[Spike Spiegel]

Seeing Daisy Ridley smile always makes me think of horses for some reason.

I was hoping the "epic announcement forty years in the making" would be something like an official blu ray release of the unaltered OT.

[Andrew NDB]

I was hoping the "epic announcement forty years in the making" would be something like an official blu ray release of the unaltered OT.

That'd be a pretty crappy announcement. Why would I want that?

[The Deadman]

If the major announcement was another re-release of the original movie the fandom would probably explode.

[ToTheNines]

Seeing Daisy Ridley smile always makes me think of horses for some reason.

I was hoping the "epic announcement forty years in the making" would be something like an official blu ray release of the unaltered OT.

They've lost me as a customer on that front. This should have happened the second George was out of the picture. They wanna dick around for whatever reason though. Eff em.

[Andrew NDB]

They've lost me as a customer on that front. This should have happened the second George was out of the picture.

Even if they wanted to, and they probably do, they couldn't just strike a deal with Fox right out of the gate. They own the distribution rights to IV, like, forever.

They wanna dick around for whatever reason though. Eff em.

I don't see why. Even when George was around he included the original versions on the limited editions of the DVD release of IV-VI. Nobody really went crazy over them, or bought them up like hotcakes or anything.

I'm sure we'll probably see a re-release of the "original, unaltered" OT in our lifetime. I just don't expect it is going to be this earth-shaking thing. It'll probably just be a quiet murmur of, "Oh. Well I guess it's really not better at all, is it?" or "Huh. That's a whole lot of matte lines and boxes," or maybe, maybe, "Well, I guess that's neat not to see Hayden at the end of Jedi."

Hipsters will probably love it. They will have special screenings of it as they drink their organic chai teas, stroking their beards and playing with their man buns as they cheer, "This is sooo retro, dude!"

[Autbot_Benz]

I don't see why. Even when George was around he included the original versions on the limited editions of the DVD release of IV-VI. Nobody really went crazy over them, or bought them up like hotcakes or anything.
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Funny you mention that release I actually own them

http://i.imgur.com/BLwdgPY.jpg

The OG trilogy Transfer is from the Laserdisc Edition on the bonus disc

[Spike Spiegel]

Funny you mention that release I actually own them

http://i.imgur.com/BLwdgPY.jpg

The OG trilogy Transfer is from the Laserdisc Edition on the bonus disc

I've been lucky enough to find this set twice at different used DVD stores in very good condition for about $3 a film. With the Despecialized Editions, they aren't quite as useful to me these days.

I don't mind the 1997/2004 cuts all that much, but the "NOOOOOOOOO" at the end of Jedi ruins it for me.

[sdp]

There's definitely a market for the unaltered trilogy however it might not be big enough to make it worth the cost; Especially when people already buy the newer editions without a problem. I do think that we'll see them released eventually, hell as mentioned above the "evil man" George Lucas who said he'd never release them...released them. Just because they were straight transfers from the laser discs people got mad but he released them but that had more to do with costs than anything.

I personally like things from the special edition though I could do without some additions but it boggles my mind how much energy people spend talking about them as if a few scenes really make that big of a difference, I can tell you the average person doesn't care and if there's no nostalgia they won't even have an opinion. Now if Disney released the Christmas Special I would love them.

[CyberCubed]

I personally like things from the special edition though I could do without some additions but it boggles my mind how much energy people spend talking about them as if a few scenes really make that big of a difference, I can tell you the average person doesn't care and if there's no nostalgia they won't even have an opinion.

Most of these original fans who saw the movies in the 70's are also 50+ year old adults too, I mean they would have to be if they were alive for the theatrical releases of the original. But back in 1997 they were probably around their early 40's I guess.

They're just a bunch of middle-age men upset that the movies don't look like they did when they were kids/teens in the 70's.

[Andrew NDB]

Actually, I honestly wish Disney or whoever would take the edits a step further. Make the IV Obi-Wan and Vader fight more badass (no, not NEARLY to the extent of Episode III's... that was embarrassingly excessive). Make it not like two old men swatting broomsticks at each other... after seeing Dooku fight, this doesn't make any sense. Make all the Ewoks blink this time, CGI in better lip movements. Also that hokey shot in Return of the Jedi where Luke gets shot on the wrist on the sail barge... draws attention. And please, once and for all please fix the damn lightsaber on the Falcon when Luke is training with the floating training device.

There's definitely a market for the unaltered trilogy however it might not be big enough to make it worth the cost; Especially when people already buy the newer editions without a problem. I do think that we'll see them released eventually, hell as mentioned above the "evil man" George Lucas who said he'd never release them...released them.

True. It's always struck me as weird that people still bang their pitchforks, "DAMN George Lucas for never releasing the original, unedited original trilogy!!!" Uh, he did. After he said he wouldn't, even. It's like even he did what everyone wanted and nobody wanted to or was able to even acknowledge it. Sure, it's the laserdisc version repurposed. But so what? It's out there, on DVD, and it looks way better than the "Final" version that saw VHS release. You can go and track it down and watch the lame Death Star explosion and TIE Fighters whooshing around with big green boxes around them to your heart's content.

[TigerClaw]

Here it is!

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Teaser Poster

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9YRt1SXkAEYN-k.jpg

[snake]

I loved it, but I was expecting a little more. I wonder when we'll get the full trailer.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Not much there yet, is there?

Still fairly sure we're getting a revamped "Empire Strikes Back." Hope that doesn't turn out to be the case...

[ToTheNines]

Looking good! Hopefully this makes so much money that they have no choice but to bring Rian Johnson back for IX.

[TigerClaw]

at the end of the trailer, Luke says. “I only know one truth... It’s time for the Jedi... to end.”

Jedi can be plural, so it could be that the Jedi order is coming to an end?

[ToTheNines]

Not much there yet, is there?

Still fairly sure we're getting a revamped "Empire Strikes Back." Hope that doesn't turn out to be the case...

There will be some parallels. Such as Luke training Rey, as Yoda trained him. Some big twist revolving around Kylo.

The first one ended with Rey/Poe/Finn all split up, so I have to imagine they'll all be reunited before the halfway point. Whereas Empire had the main cast split up the whole damn movie. As long as this doesn't end with Rey losing a hand and being plucked from high up structure by the Falcon, with Poe frozen in carbonite, we'll be good lol.

REALLY psyched to finally see the Knights of Ren in action finally (hopefully)!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

There will be some parallels. Such as Luke training Rey, as Yoda trained him. Some big twist revolving around Kylo.

The first one ended with Rey/Poe/Finn all split up, so I have to imagine they'll all be reunited before the halfway point. Whereas Empire had the main cast split up the whole damn movie. As long as this doesn't end with Rey losing a hand and being plucked from high up structure by the Falcon, with Poe frozen in carbonite, we'll be good lol.

REALLY psyched to finally see the Knights of Ren in action finally (hopefully)!

I feel that there's a really good chance that this won't be just a flashy repackaging of Empire because it's not JJ Abrams running the show... but they played it safe once and made big bucks for it. Who's to say they won't do it again?

I think, as TigerClaw mentioned, that Luke's dialogue is quite interesting... if that ethical dilemma of "the Jedi must end" turns out to be a big part of the story, I'll be quite intrigued.

[ToTheNines]

I think Luke realizes that a Jedi Order is only going to end up teaching and ultimately turning away powerful Dark side Force users. So his mission will be to train Rey to help him take down Snoke and Kylo and be done with it.

I don't see him surviving episode IX. And I'm betting the eventual episode X will be a about Rey starting a new Order, despite Luke's wishes.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

True. It's always struck me as weird that people still bang their pitchforks, "DAMN George Lucas for never releasing the original, unedited original trilogy!!!" Uh, he did. After he said he wouldn't, even. It's like even he did what everyone wanted and nobody wanted to or was able to even acknowledge it. Sure, it's the laserdisc version repurposed. But so what? It's out there, on DVD, and it looks way better than the "Final" version that saw VHS release. You can go and track it down and watch the lame Death Star explosion and TIE Fighters whooshing around with big green boxes around them to your heart's content.

What ticks people off is that there was no reason to use a Laserdisc transfer for those DVDs. Prints of the original film still exist; it would have been easy to locate and digitize them. But because Lucas prefers his CGI ronto humor, he didn't expend any effort to give the original versions and sort of attention. They were low-quality releases. They could and should have looked better, and there are people today who have, on their own, gone and started the process the right way (look up '4k77').

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I think Luke realizes that a Jedi Order is only going to end up teaching and ultimately turning away powerful Dark side Force users. So his mission will be to train Rey to help him take down Snoke and Kylo and be done with it.

I don't see him surviving episode IX. And I'm betting the eventual episode X will be a about Rey starting a new Order, despite Luke's wishes.

Oh, absolutely; there's no way Luke survives this trilogy.

And seeing how the Empire got renamed but is still basically the Empire, and the Rebel Alliance got renamed but is still basically the Empire, the Jedi will probably also be renamed but still be basically Jedi.

[CyberCubed]

Looks pretty good, and hopefully this movie answers some questions/plotholes and fleshes out characters better from Episode 7, essentially fixing some problems with the previous movie. Really hoping Kylo Ren gets fully fleshed out, the underdeveloped villains in Episode 7 was a major flaw. And of course answers as to what the hell Luke was doing all this time.

Of course I pretty much hate Snoke as the new "Emperor" type character. Literally looks like a character they should have saved for the cartoons/comics, but looks way too cheesy in a live action movie.

[MikeandRaph87]

Looks pretty good, and hopefully this movie answers some questions/plotholes and fleshes out characters better from Episode 7, essentially fixing some problems with the previous movie. Really hoping Kylo Ren gets fully fleshed out, the underdeveloped villains in Episode 7 was a major flaw. And of course answers as to what the hell Luke was doing all this time.

Of course I pretty much hate Snoke as the new "Emperor" type character. Literally looks like a character they should have saved for the cartoons/comics, but looks way too cheesy in a live action movie.


How should he look then,in your opinion?


What is that apparently broken thing at the 0:58 second mark?

[NinjaPug]

I must get a copy of that poster. I really think Rian created something special - I just hope the end product is what he wanted it to be.

[MikeandRaph87]

Oh, absolutely; there's no way Luke survives this trilogy.

And seeing how the Empire got renamed but is still basically the Empire, and the Rebel Alliance got renamed but is still basically the Empire, the Jedi will probably also be renamed but still be basically Jedi.


You are seriously making me wonder what the point to anything is in Star Wars! Jedi stop Sith. Chosen One clears the yin/yang and reignites a new thought light side. End of story. Now, nothing is solved and the poinr is lost.:o

[ZariusTwo]

Looks s*it.

[DestronMirage22]

Looks s*it.

Agreed, it looks pretty bad.
Also, what's with these trailers starting out with dumb, surprise gasping-for-breath scenes?

[ZariusTwo]

Agreed, it looks pretty bad.
Also, what's with these trailers starting out with dumb, surprise gasping-for-breath scenes?

The whole trailer is practically beat-for-beat the same as the last one.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Agreed, it looks pretty bad.
Also, what's with these trailers starting out with dumb, surprise gasping-for-breath scenes?

More apparent to me was all those cuts to black. It's been a horrible trend in trailers for the past few years.