US American politics [Archive] - Page 5

Andrew NDB

10-15-2025, 12:50 AM

I'd figure it's all talk since he'd most likely target Hispanics rather than the actual gangs, but a lot of the gangs there are Hispanic so maybe two birds with one stone?

Probably because they weren't racist enough rather than not fit enough.

You're really riding hard on the fear-mongering/paranoia train lately, aren't you? You know I dig you, man, but none of what you're saying is even loosely based in reality here. Take a step back and breathe. You're smarter than this.

ProphetofGanja

10-15-2025, 03:49 AM

Andrew, why are you so up-in-arms for Israel? It just seems like such a weird cause for you to be so passionate about.

Mayhem

10-15-2025, 04:10 AM

And both sides have not quite adhered to the ceasefire agreement. Hamas has been slower returning everyone (albeit almost everyone is now back in Israel) and Israel decided to shoot up nine people in Gaza. The usual…

ToTheNines

10-15-2025, 04:51 AM

Andrew, why are you so up-in-arms for Israel? It just seems like such a weird cause for you to be so passionate about.

He gets $7k a post lol

FredWolfLeonardo

10-15-2025, 11:02 AM

Andrew, why are you so up-in-arms for Israel? It just seems like such a weird cause for you to be so passionate about.

I've seen him invoke the Holocaust quite a bit when supporting Israel. Maybe he feels guilt and believes that to prevent another Holocaust, Israel must be supported at all costs?

I don't agree with that reasoning, of course.

Andrew NDB

10-15-2025, 11:19 AM

Andrew, why are you so up-in-arms for Israel?

Up in arms for Israel? More like, up in arms about people getting up in arms... about Israel getting up in arms in doing what it's gotta do.

sdp

10-15-2025, 11:21 AM

I don't understand people that follow the party line without any questioning. Such an NPC move, do they really have 0 critical thinking skills?

Andrew NDB

10-15-2025, 11:27 AM

I don't understand people that follow the party line without any questioning.

I wouldn't say there's party consensus on Israel within the republican party at all -- so, no "line to toe." There absolutely is over on the left, however, so if anything you're the one far more likely to be doing that. What "questioning" have you done to the contrary of what you already believe/believed is going on in Israel/Gaza? Any at all?

ToTheNines

10-15-2025, 03:42 PM

Israel is a very interesting issue because there is a huge split on both the left and right over it. I’ve never seen any other issue have this effect. Spd is definitely confused on the “party line” here. As I’ve said when breaking Andrew’s balls in the past, he has the same stance on Israel as the Biden-Harris administration lol

I've seen him invoke the Holocaust quite a bit when supporting Israel. Maybe he feels guilt and believes that to prevent another Holocaust, Israel must be supported at all costs?

I don't agree with that reasoning, of course.

Andrew can speak for himself, but from knowing him (and what I’ve gathered from my other pro-Israel friends and early) my understanding is this:

To admit that Israel is bad, you also have to admit America is bad. I don’t think people like Andrew would ever say or think that on a broad level. That level of optimism and patriotism is admirable, but I can’t get on board. There are millions of facets to the American government, but many of them are incredibly sinister and openly corrupt.

Mayhem

10-15-2025, 06:16 PM

I think there’s a growing realisation inside America about just how much of US politics is controlled and funded by Israel. America First? Looks like Israel First to many. And people are pushing back against it, let alone matters such as the “won’t go away” rumours Charlie Kirk was kiled because he started voicing anti Israel opinions.

Even the likes of MTG, I mean even her, have been recently voicing that many things are wrong and the GoP need to take a long look at itself. Sure, some of that is damage control as she’s up for reelection next year, but it must be sufficiently damaging enough to be saying such things.

Israel’s general worldwide reputation and support is in the sink right now.

The ceasefire agreement that Netanyahu agreed to is exactly the same one that Harris offered last October, but dissuaded from accepting because Trump didn’t want the Dems to get the credit, he did. So the delay. And another years worth of death and destruction. All for kudos points. Sure there’s now a ceasefire. People can’t really go home to a lot of places in Gaza because Israel has flattened so much of it, there is nothing left to go “home” to.

Which also explains the delays in returning the bodies of some missing Israeli hostages because Hamas states they are under tons of rubble that Israel caused with no way to realistically achieve digging them up yet.

In othee news, you know the new rules about reporting from inside the Pentagon must be crap if even Fox News has refused to agree to them…

Mayhem

10-16-2025, 03:12 AM

About as surprising as a bear relieving itself in tree rich environments…

https://i.ibb.co/xqgjtTWp/IMG-3815.jpg (https://ibb.co/0y9MRbTg)

ToTheNines

10-16-2025, 06:44 AM

why did we give a 20 billion dollar bail out to Argentina?

Psyche. Now it’s 40 billion lmao. I hate it here.

Coola Yagami

10-16-2025, 06:56 AM

About as surprising as a bear relieving itself in tree rich environments…

https://i.ibb.co/xqgjtTWp/IMG-3815.jpg (https://ibb.co/0y9MRbTg)

Never thought I'd see Pizzacake here.

sdp

10-16-2025, 11:02 AM

Debt is the biggest problem the US faces and the one true thing that could tumble the dollar and American empire and yet the Democrats don't care, and the Republicans said they cared and yet did the opposite of what they were going to do.

By the time the average person realizes why it's important, it'll be too late to do anything about it.

Andrew NDB

10-16-2025, 12:43 PM

Andrew can speak for himself, but from knowing him (and what I’ve gathered from my other pro-Israel friends and early) my understanding is this:

To admit that Israel is bad, you also have to admit America is bad. I don’t think people like Andrew would ever say or think that on a broad level. That level of optimism and patriotism is admirable, but I can’t get on board. There are millions of facets to the American government, but many of them are incredibly sinister and openly corrupt.

Why do we need to be "admitting America is bad"? Nobody is going to discount that there are bad pockets here and there, but overall? And what are all these countries that are better than America? It's the best country and it's not even close and for pretty obvious reasons (whether it's freedom of speech or basic civil rights and an unparalleled GDP). And it's pretty funny that somehow America is even worse or "Fascist" as a result of rounding up/throwing out all the people desperately trying to illegally break into the country. But I thought America is bad? Why are these people risking their lives to break into a place if it's so bad and fascist, etc.?

And was Israel maybe a little too mean to the people that blasted through their walls and murdered thousands and kidnapped hundreds? Oh NOES!

sdp

10-16-2025, 12:45 PM

says the person who has only ever lived in one country :lol: hell probably never even gone outside the country

FredWolfLeonardo

10-16-2025, 02:45 PM

Just watch, one day me, sdp, Mayhem, ProphetofGanja and Nines are gonna redpill Andrew. He's gonna become BASED and turn against the ZOG.

ToTheNines

10-16-2025, 04:17 PM

Why do we need to be "admitting America is bad"? Nobody is going to discount that there are bad pockets here and there, but overall? And what are all these countries that are better than America? It's the best country and it's not even close and for pretty obvious reasons (whether it's freedom of speech or basic civil rights and an unparalleled GDP). And it's pretty funny that somehow America is even worse or "Fascist" as a result of rounding up/throwing out all the people desperately trying to illegally break into the country. But I thought America is bad? Why are these people risking their lives to break into a place if it's so bad and fascist, etc.?

And was Israel maybe a little too mean to the people that blasted through their walls and murdered thousands and kidnapped hundreds? Oh NOES!

I didn’t mean it as in a bad place to live. The quality of life is decent for most people, although it is on the decline. Inflation vs. stagnant wages, civil liberties being slowly eroded, crazy health insurance, poison ingredients allowed in our food, constant propaganda (particularly aimed at our kids), taxes just getting higher and higher with nothing to show for it other than our military and more national debt.

Oh and politically motivated violence seemingly on the rise.

But anyway, I just meant “bad” as in our military industrial complex and the intelligence world are mostly doing bad **** all over the world, regardless of who’s in office.

Just watch, one day me, sdp, Mayhem, ProphetofGanja and Nines are gonna redpill Andrew. He's gonna become BASED and turn against the ZOG.

Mayhem is bluepilled and sdp is a full on Sigma male. But yes. God willing.

Andrew NDB

10-16-2025, 04:33 PM

civil liberties being slowly eroded

Like what?

crazy health insurance

Yeah, it's pretty nuts. This might be a bigger buggaboo for me if I got sick a lot but I don't.

poison ingredients allowed in our food

For sure.

constant propaganda (particularly aimed at our kids)

Absolutely, though I'm not sure this is particularly better (and it might be a lot worse) in places like Canada and the UK.

Oh and politically motivated violence seemingly on the rise.

Or the reporting of it. For example, according to how everything was reported and filed, there wasn't even one political act of violence during the whole "Summer of Love."

But anyway, I just meant “bad” as in our military industrial complex and the intelligence world are mostly doing bad **** all over the world, regardless of who’s in office.

That's true of any country that has a significant foot in "the intelligence world." Or at least for the conspiracy theories thereto.

ToTheNines

10-17-2025, 04:30 AM

Like what?

Off the top of my head:

* First amendment always under attack by both sides trying to hurt each other. The worst thing being these insane “antisemitism” laws congress has passed.

* Admittedly I’m all the way far-right on gun control laws, but second amendment is always under attack. The new thing being Red Flag laws, which could be stretched and used on anybody for basically any reason.

* Women’s reproductive rights. I’m pretty left here. This is definitely not something I wanted Republicans to go on offense about, but here we are. Roe v. Wade made perfect sense because it made it a privacy issue. You don’t open a homicide investigation when a woman has a miscarriage, ya kooks. And this has affected me personally because I want more kids but my wife is now terrified of complications.

* Speaking of kids, there’s been some scary stories about parents vs. school systems when their underage children are having a gender crisis or whatever.

* Surveillance State in general constantly growing. Which is mostly just rapidly advancing technology, but it’s troubling to see freaks like Palantir getting cozy with the government.

* I would hope this is all behind us, but I kind of doubt it… medical autonomy. I’m Covid vaxxed and boosted, didn’t really buy any of be conspiracy theories and didn’t mind wearing a mask to run in the store or whatever but the vaccine mandates were INSANE.

Basically everyone in the DOD and healthcare industry HAD to get it, then Biden tried to make it an OSHA issue and force companies with 100+ employees to require it. Mercifully the whole thing fizzled out because, well, you know…

But I’m terrified to see how the government behaves during the next public health crisis, especially if a D is in office.

Oh I didn’t even get into the lockdowns. Total bullsh*t. My local comic book store (literally two minutes from my house, now I have to drive 40 minutes) that didn’t survive the pandemic wasn’t allowed to let one customer at a time come in, but Walmart can have 75-100 people at a time? How does that make any sense?

That's true of any country that has a significant foot in "the intelligence world." Or at least for the conspiracy theories thereto.

Good point. Doesn’t mean it’s not bad and won’t come back to bite us someday.

Mayhem

10-17-2025, 10:26 AM

Admittedly I’m all the way far-right on gun control laws, but second amendment is always under attack. The new thing being Red Flag laws, which could be stretched and used on anybody for basically any reason.
They’ve already floated banning trans people from having guns. I’m for greater gun control in general (mostly about what types people are allowed to have) but discriminating against a particular demographic? Get out of here,

ToTheNines

10-17-2025, 11:55 AM

They’ve already floated banning trans people from having guns. I’m for greater gun control in general (mostly about what types people are allowed to have) but discriminating against a particular demographic? Get out of here,

Yeah I don’t agree with that at all.

And it’s yet another thing that the Ds can just turn around when they’re back in power. Just wait until we see libtard DOGE…

Andrew NDB

10-17-2025, 11:57 AM

https://i.ibb.co/k2YvmZmS/565701498-24916782604676626-3506263858063870365-n.jpg

They’ve already floated banning trans people from having guns.

I don't agree with that either, necessarily... although pretty much the same people who are shouting for extreme gun control for anyone with mental health issues are against this, why?

Mayhem

10-18-2025, 02:38 AM

I don't agree with that either, necessarily... although pretty much the same people who are shouting for extreme gun control for anyone with mental health issues are against this, why?
Because despite the incessant hollering from the Christian right, trans people aren’t mentally ill. No matter what you or they say or rant.

Andrew NDB

10-18-2025, 02:58 AM

Because despite the incessant hollering from the Christian right, trans people aren’t mentally ill. No matter what you or they say or rant.

You can remove "Christian" from the argument because there are plenty of non-religious people who are "hollering" that, though I'm sure those are the loudest voices and easiest low hanging fruit to attack. And gender dysphoria was absolutely a mental illness on the world stage until 2019... right around the time other things suddenly started getting definitions shifted around about (*cough*vaccine*cough*). But let's make it very simple for the sake of argument:

The same people that want to make it impossible for people who, say, came back from serving in a war and have PTSD to have guns... it should be, say, perfectly OK for other people who think they were born in the wrong body and need to mutilate their genitals and take drugs for the rest of their lives to have guns, by the same token? That seems less crazy, somehow? How? I'm not saying either one of these things should preclude people from having guns in the US, I'm just saying that it's NUTS to make that equivalence.

FredWolfLeonardo

10-18-2025, 04:27 AM

Because despite the incessant hollering from the Christian right, trans people aren’t mentally ill. No matter what you or they say or rant.

I'll agree with you on this. I have obvious issues with the trans lifestyle, but what I deem to be a morally wrong choice does not make the person making said choice mentally ill.

Mayhem

10-18-2025, 01:53 PM

it should be, say, perfectly OK for other people who think they were born in the wrong body and need to mutilate their genitals and take drugs for the rest of their lives to have guns,
Most of the people in the former don’t actually go through with any of the latter. Either by choice, cost etc. In fact genital surgery only accounts for a third of all gender affirming surgeries past that. So less than 10% of trans people have any genital surgery done.

Coola Yagami

10-18-2025, 02:20 PM

So I guess the protests are today? A lot of people I know from all over going to those. Hope they'll be safe out there.

ToTheNines

10-18-2025, 02:32 PM

I’ve driven through 2 today. Buncha boomers holding “clever” signs. Trump is devastated.

Andrew NDB

10-18-2025, 02:38 PM

Most of the people in the former don’t actually go through with any of the latter. Either by choice, cost etc. In fact genital surgery only accounts for a third of all gender affirming surgeries past that. So less than 10% of trans people have any genital surgery done.

OK, but we're still left with "I believe I was born in the wrong body" being less crazy than "I fought in a war and have PTSD" in terms of who should be allowed to buy guns. In regard to the same leftists who believe the latter shouldn't be able to.

I’ve driven through 2 today. Buncha boomers holding “clever” signs. Trump is devastated.

It's largely a clown show now. Yes, all of those inflatable frog costumes are going to make Trump think twice about doing... what, exactly?

Where's all the protests about Hamas going door to door now rounding up Palestinians from their homes and shooting them all in the streets in public executions? Nothing, because Israel isn't involved? Or why?

FredWolfLeonardo

10-18-2025, 02:43 PM

Where's all the protests about Hamas going door to door now rounding up Palestinians from their homes and shooting them all in the streets in public executions? Nothing, because Israel isn't involved? Or why?

Israel is involved in the roundup of gang members, they fund one of the ISIS gangs in Palestine, "The Popular Forces", which fights against Hamas.

Mayhem

10-18-2025, 03:10 PM

OK, but we're still left with "I believe I was born in the wrong body" being less crazy than "I fought in a war and have PTSD" in terms of who should be allowed to buy guns. In regard to the same leftists who believe the latter shouldn't be able to.
The former is born like that, the latter is not. In the case of the latter, entirely down to a psychiatric evaluation. In fact everyone probably should be before purchasing a weapon.

ToTheNines

10-18-2025, 03:18 PM

a psychiatric evaluation. In fact everyone probably should be before purchasing a weapon.

WRONG!

I could hurt way more people with my truck than with any firearm I own.

IndigoErth

10-19-2025, 12:16 AM

And every day people out there are proving we should probably reconsider who we allow on the roads, too...

Andrew NDB

10-19-2025, 12:21 AM

And every day people out there are proving we should probably reconsider who we allow on the roads, too...

Hey, at least that's not a right.

Mayhem

10-19-2025, 02:42 AM

Although you still have to orove you’re competent enough to be allowed on the roads…

ToTheNines

10-19-2025, 05:43 AM

Although you still have to orove you’re competent enough to be allowed on the roads…

Buddy, come drive around any part of America for a day and tell me half of these people know what they’re doing behind the wheel lol

Mayhem

10-19-2025, 10:18 AM

You only have to get lucky once in the test :lol:

ranger_scout

10-19-2025, 11:50 AM

Zohran Mamdani's, the front-runner in the race for mayor of New York, chief of staff was caught on camera saying, "Who gives a Sh-t what the NYPD thinks."

https://x.com/lawler4ny/status/1979231774862430474

https://nypost.com/2025/10/17/us-news/zohran-mamdanis-top-campaign-staffer-caught-saying-who-gives-a-s-t-what-cops-think-of-nyc-mayoral-front-runner-video/

Coola Yagami

10-19-2025, 12:18 PM

So I guess 'No King's Day II' came and went. What exactly was accomplished? I know you have the right to protest, but what did it do?

ToTheNines

10-19-2025, 12:49 PM

Trump is shook. Vance is hiding in a bunker. Pete Hegseth on suicide watch.

The right is finished. RIP MAGA.

Coola Yagami

10-19-2025, 01:14 PM

Trump is shook. Vance is hiding in a bunker. Pete Hegseth on suicide watch.

The right is finished. RIP MAGA.

Don't do that. Don't give me hope.

ToTheNines

10-19-2025, 01:17 PM

https://www.looper.com/img/gallery/most-memorable-hawkeye-quotes-in-the-mcu/dont-give-me-hope-1643112352.jpg

Coola Yagami

10-19-2025, 01:41 PM

https://www.looper.com/img/gallery/most-memorable-hawkeye-quotes-in-the-mcu/dont-give-me-hope-1643112352.jpg

Exactly!

diez caracteres

Autbot_Benz

10-19-2025, 03:54 PM

So I guess 'No King's Day II' came and went. What exactly was accomplished? I know you have the right to protest, but what did it do?

It showed trump a lot of people don’t want his authoritarian nonsense . These protests weren’t gonna do anything in terms of change just show a lot of Americans are sick and tired of Trump’s BS.

ProphetofGanja

10-19-2025, 03:58 PM

Unfortunately, most of them weren’t true “protests”, they were merely rallies.

Coola Yagami

10-19-2025, 04:15 PM

It showed trump a lot of people don’t want his authoritarian nonsense . These protests weren’t gonna do anything in terms of change just show a lot of Americans are sick and tired of Trump’s BS.

I feel he's so stupid it'll go over his head.

CyberCubed

10-19-2025, 04:18 PM

Unfortunately, most of them weren’t true “protests”, they were merely rallies.

I mean, there's not much else they can do without getting arrested. If you make a real protest and start causing trouble, the police/national guard/ICES will round everyone up.

We've already seen it in the past with them throwing tear gas on the crowds, beating people over the head with batons or electric tasers, and arresting people. Honestly going to a protest to wind up in the hospital later or arrested isn't what most people want, that's why you have to remain "civil" for the most part.

ToTheNines

10-19-2025, 04:18 PM

Andrew NDB

10-19-2025, 04:31 PM

You think he doesn’t know people don’t like him? We’re 10 years into this. All the corny rightwing pundits are advertising Eric Trump’s new book, Under Siege. Which is about “boohoo the liberals are so mean to me and my daddy!”

Well, there is the whole part about the family having to spend about 400 million to defend against all the lawfare. That's nothing to sneeze at.

ToTheNines

10-19-2025, 04:33 PM

Something tells me they’ll be alright lol

sdp

10-19-2025, 04:50 PM

Colombia's président is an illegal drug dealer, confirmed by Trump on Truth Social just now.
Colombian's need to get their country together! Sad!

Andrew NDB

10-19-2025, 05:02 PM

Something tells me they’ll be alright lol

Of course, but the point is imagine if they didn't have that. Imagine if they were going after me or you like that.

Coola Yagami

10-19-2025, 05:37 PM

sdp

10-20-2025, 03:27 PM

Why is the US going to be buying Argentinean beef?

Mayhem

10-20-2025, 03:54 PM

Because dictators of a feather flock together…

Andrew NDB

10-20-2025, 05:41 PM

Jeeze, we must have the worst dictator ever. Trump can't even keep the government open, as a dictator, can you believe it?

FredWolfLeonardo

10-20-2025, 06:17 PM

The liberals are right, there is a dictator who rules America and brags about it.

But that dictator is not Trump. His name is Benjamin Netanyahu.

Andrew NDB

10-20-2025, 06:24 PM

The liberals are right, there is a dictator who rules America and brags about it.

But that dictator is not Trump. His name is Benjamin Netanyahu.

Good, maybe he can reopen the government then. What's stopping him?

FredWolfLeonardo

10-20-2025, 06:30 PM

Good, maybe he can reopen the government then. What's stopping him?

The government in Tel Aviv, the only one that matters, is still open.

Mayhem

10-21-2025, 03:24 AM

Jeeze, we must have the worst dictator ever. Trump can't even keep the government open, as a dictator, can you believe it?
Well he’d like to be, like his pals Putin and Kim, but those pesky things called Senate, House, and judges are often getting in the way…

Andrew NDB

10-21-2025, 02:17 PM

Mayhem

10-21-2025, 04:23 PM

I’m assuming Roosevelt did similar when putting in the West Wing, and Taft with the Oval Office, but I’d presume you know more about that history than me.

Mayhem

10-21-2025, 05:58 PM

Lawsuit filed in Arizona against Speaker Mike Johnson due to the non swearing in of Grijalva.

ProphetofGanja

10-21-2025, 09:28 PM

https://i.ibb.co/k2YvmZmS/565701498-24916782604676626-3506263858063870365-n.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/907831332879601695/1425308760632463471/IMG_2374.jpg?ex=68f8e9f9&is=68f79879&hm=9a7c1273f9d3b22fa2519cec901db089754d7b0fe4b0c6b b44bc8dd4042f7776&

Zohran Mamdani's, the front-runner in the race for mayor of New York, chief of staff was caught on camera saying, "Who gives a Sh-t what the NYPD thinks."

https://x.com/lawler4ny/status/1979231774862430474

https://nypost.com/2025/10/17/us-news/zohran-mamdanis-top-campaign-staffer-caught-saying-who-gives-a-s-t-what-cops-think-of-nyc-mayoral-front-runner-video/

I mean, who does give a **** what they think :lol: all jokes aside though, they are one of the biggest gangs in the country and wield a lot of influence, and we should be keeping tabs on them.

I mean, there's not much else they can do without getting arrested. If you make a real protest and start causing trouble, the police/national guard/ICES will round everyone up.

We've already seen it in the past with them throwing tear gas on the crowds, beating people over the head with batons or electric tasers, and arresting people. Honestly going to a protest to wind up in the hospital later or arrested isn't what most people want, that's why you have to remain "civil" for the most part.

Sometimes, you have to have civil unrest.

Can you imagine if the founding fathers and everyone else involved in the Boston Tea Party had had a rally like these No Kings protests? “Everyone, please respectfully drop a prepurchased bag of tea into this specially designated portion of the harbor during the appointed times, so we can really stick it to that mean old king!”

Colombia's président is an illegal drug dealer, confirmed by Trump on Truth Social just now.
Colombian's need to get their country together! Sad!

His recent speech (https://peoplesdispatch.org/2025/09/25/humanity-must-stop-the-genocide-in-gaza-petros-radical-speech-at-the-un-general-assembly/) in front of the UN was pretty based.

Jeeze, we must have the worst dictator ever. Trump can't even keep the government open, as a dictator, can you believe it?

Right, making thousand of people work for free? :roll: What a terrible dictator indeed

The government in Tel Aviv, the only one that matters, is still open.

Boom, spitting facts. Israel and the US are essentially two sides of the same coin.

member_removed

10-21-2025, 09:50 PM

Pretty rich to see the same people who were A-OK tearing down historical statues a year or two ago are up in arms about Trump building this White House ballroom, that it's "destroying history" and all that.

You're talking about pro slavery monuments.

I think the greater issue with the ballroom is the cost, Trump campaigned on "government efficacy". How does this Ballroom help farmers, people living under the poverty line, etc.

If there was a government surplus, fine go for it! But there isn't.

Andrew NDB

10-21-2025, 10:23 PM

His recent speech (https://peoplesdispatch.org/2025/09/25/humanity-must-stop-the-genocide-in-gaza-petros-radical-speech-at-the-un-general-assembly/) in front of the UN was pretty based.

Oh yes, what a grand speech. Blah blah blah, stop a genocide that isn't happening, if Trump blows up our drug boats then he should be prosecuted, we have 10 years to stop Climate Change or it's too late, etc., etc..

A real whopper! Wasn't this the same guy going on about how socialism is so great after Trump revoked his visa?

Mayhem

10-22-2025, 08:46 AM

I think the greater issue with the ballroom is the cost, Trump campaigned on "government efficacy". How does this Ballroom help farmers, people living under the poverty line, etc.

If there was a government surplus, fine go for it! But there isn't.
Trump is claiming the cost is coming from him and donors, not government funding. Well given he managed to earn $2B on memecoin and screwing the stock market, he should be able to afford it...

ranger_scout

10-22-2025, 12:33 PM

It's too early to think about 2028, but how is Kamala Harris leading this poll when she's not even being asked to campaign for Democrats in special governor's races? If she were to run, then she would probably drop out before the Iowa caucus like she did in 2020.

https://www.newsweek.com/gavin-newsom-suffers-polling-blow-among-2028-democratic-candidates-10913159#Echobox=1761065807

ToTheNines

10-22-2025, 12:48 PM

Sometimes, you have to have civil unrest.

Can you imagine if the founding fathers and everyone else involved in the Boston Tea Party had had a rally like these No Kings protests? “Everyone, please respectfully drop a prepurchased bag of tea into this specially designated portion of the harbor during the appointed times, so we can really stick it to that mean old king!”

People only like it when it’s their side. Which I guess makes sense, but it’s funny from a neutral perspective.

Conservative Boomer’s love LARPing as revolutionaries and jacking off to 1776, but they HATE protestors if it has anything to do with Gaza, BLM, etc.

Then the libs lost their minds over January 6th (a literal clown show), but were all “riots are the language of the unheard” less than a year prior.

ProphetofGanja

10-22-2025, 09:25 PM

Yeah, that’s what blows me the most too smh

Most people can’t see they’re being played against each other like kids with action figures, mannnnn :sweatdro:

ranger_scout

10-25-2025, 01:41 PM

Harris already had her chance. She needs to move on. If she wants to stay in politics, then she should've run for governor of California. She is adored there.

https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/kamala-harris-not-done-with-politics-trump-1236561280/

Mayhem

10-26-2025, 02:28 AM

You mean if Newsom is elected President?

FredWolfLeonardo

10-26-2025, 02:48 AM

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSRBHZEHv_bq_RmN4MnoOj8qNCB5nF6b bbaCFUa1BP2NR9Vik0PAW1NFGY&s=10

Republicians and MagaBros should vote Newsom 2028 for the Purity of the White Race.

IndigoErth

10-26-2025, 12:30 PM

Trump is claiming the cost is coming from him and donors, not government funding.

Trumpers across the internet: "We're not paying for the ballroom, he is! It's free!"

Trump now: "DOJ needs to pay me $230 million for being investigated."

While things are shut down even. He couldn't be more see through if he tried.

Coola Yagami

10-26-2025, 01:50 PM

Trumpers across the internet: "We're not paying for the ballroom, he is! It's free!"

Trump now: "DOJ needs to pay me $230 million for being investigated."

While things are shut down even. He couldn't be more see through if he tried.

Trump couldn't be a bigger idiot if he tried. Just speaks for the people that voted for him a second time. I'm not saying Kamala woulda been that much better, but things wouldn't have been as bad as they currently are had she won. On top of that the retard wants to break all rules and try for a third term? **** that guy.

FredWolfLeonardo

10-26-2025, 03:49 PM

Coola Yagami

10-26-2025, 06:57 PM

Not enough though. There are still tons of MAGAbros licking Trump's boots regardless of everything.

Andrew NDB

10-26-2025, 07:00 PM

You mean if Newsom is elected President?

Now there's a horrifying thought. The whole country being run like California?

The democrats would do good to rally around a Bill Clinton-type. That would be fine.

FredWolfLeonardo

10-26-2025, 07:03 PM

Not enough though. There are still tons of MAGAbros licking Trump's boots regardless of everything.

That's true unfortunately. The redpilling is fast, but it must happen even faster so every single MagaBro will turn against the ZioDon.

CyberCubed

10-26-2025, 07:14 PM

The issue is that Kamala is still relatively young and will live for decades still.

The great thing about "old people" is they die. In 5 years tops, Trump, Biden, Bernie Sanders, Putin, (and maybe even Bill and Hilary Clinton) etc, will probably all be dead of old age or disease. You just got to wait for them to run out the clock.

Old people die, you just gotta wait it out.

FredWolfLeonardo

10-26-2025, 07:15 PM

Maybe its just me, but I feel like many evil people live to very old ages.

The righteous ones tend to get martyred when they're young.

Andrew NDB

10-26-2025, 07:32 PM

Here's some great news in Seattle:

Hqk9NvK-inI

"Cartels are now targeting individual border patrol and ICE members."

Democrats: "MAKE THEM TAKE OFF THE MAAAASKS!!!!"

Coola Yagami

10-26-2025, 09:35 PM

First time for everything. ICE finally going after bad guys instead of harassing citizens of the 'wrong skin color'.

IndigoErth

10-27-2025, 02:40 PM

I do agree that Kamala would've not been as bad in terms of the damage done, strictly speaking, but couldn't you argue that Trump's approach has resulted in the mass awakening of Americans at a much faster rate?

If it was Kamala who had won, I don't think we would've had the entire Epstein Files scandal, the betrayal of Ukraine, the bombing of Iran, the resumption of 2000 pound bomb shipments to Israel and so much more.

These things are all horrible, but Trump doesn't hide what he is, while there is an illusion of stability under the democrats. If you show what kind of a monster you are openly, it will result in many more people changing for the better.

If Kamala had won, the Magabros would've insisted the 2024 election was stolen and Trump is some martyr that they should all aspire to be like. But now that Trump won, the Magabros have been able to see his administration crash and burn, and America First as an ideology has grown past Trump.

The illusion of Trump being the Supreme Leader has been shattered, and it was a necessary step in the evolution of American Politics.

Though unfortunately it's also a bit like people thinking you need to drink a jug of bleach to find out if it's bad for you. Disappointing that it was a minority who said "Of course it is." Some at least had the sense to recoil after their first sip. The blind loyalty chuggers and the "I kinda like it" bros are too far gone.

Kamala might have been vinegar instead and not the best alternative, but at least it wouldn't be society voluntarily poisoning itself just to find out how it goes.

Mayhem

10-29-2025, 03:13 AM

New angle on Jan 6…

“You’ll go down as a wimp.” That’s what Trump told Mike Pence on the morning of January 6th, hours before a mob he’d incited stormed the Capitol. And now, thanks to new reporting from ABC’s Jonathan Karl, we’re seeing those words exactly as Mike Pence recorded them — in his own handwriting.

According to Karl’s upcoming book Retribution, Pence’s never-before-published notes were set to be used as key evidence by Special Counsel Jack Smith in the case against Trump — the case that never went to trial because of the Supreme Court’s sweeping 2024 ruling on presidential immunity.

The notes are raw, unfiltered, and damning. In them, Trump pressures Pence to block Joe Biden’s certification, sneering:
“You’ll go down as a wimp.”
“If you do that, I made a big mistake five years ago.”
“You’re not protecting our country — you’re supposed to support and defend our country.”

Next to one of Trump’s quotes, Pence even drew what appears to be an angry emoji.

It’s beyond absurd — a childish president bullying his vice president, a grown man scrawling cartoon fury in the margins as the nation teetered on the brink. But those scribbles, according to Karl, were more than frustration. They were evidence, proof that Trump was knowingly, personally, and relentlessly pressuring Pence to break the law.

Smith’s team reportedly built an enormous case around these details: Pence’s contemporaneous notes, Trump’s altered rally speech, and forensic data from Trump’s own iPhone showing he’d been watching footage of the Capitol violence as it unfolded.

It would have been devastating in court.

Smith later wrote that the evidence “proved Trump used lies as a weapon to defeat a federal function foundational to democracy.” But after Trump’s reelection in 2024, the Justice Department halted the prosecution — citing constitutional limits on charging a sitting president.

The truth, however, didn’t vanish.

These notes — Pence’s quiet handwriting, Trump’s words of rage — are a reminder of just how close we came to the end of the American experiment.

Trump’s defenders want to rewrite that day as chaos or confusion. But the notes tell a different story: a president who knew exactly what he was doing.

ToTheNines

10-29-2025, 07:27 AM

Soap opera writer post that?

IMJ

10-29-2025, 10:17 AM

Pages and pages of this circus of a thread littered with derangements like the newest "Trump smoking gun", or retail-level "evidence of Trump's evil personality", or some ongoing hispanic-persecution complex.

Meanwhile a Doctor lets his son drill into a patients head in Germany (https://people.com/brain-surgeon-accused-letting-daughter-drill-patients-head-emergency-surgery-11830827) where the German police are probably too busy searching for someone on the internet who called Ricarda Lang a "fat @$$" to take care of it. Which is at least better [maybe] than the 30 people a day arrested in the U.K. (https://nypost.com/2025/08/19/world-news/uk-free-speech-struggle-30-arrests-a-day-censorship/) for "speech crimes". But God forbid you leave one of those $#!(holes to run to Canada where the health care system produces Doctors who can't pull off planned-ahead-of-time, non-emergency surgeries (https://www.fraserinstitute.org/commentary/canadian-health-care-continues-perform-poorly-compared-other-countries). I won't even bother with f'n Australia because the entire globe already knows about the social $#!(show there. And God forbid anyone points out literally any of the South America's and the tyranny gripping almost all of those places.

All amidst Trump routinely getting things done. Next year's melt-up is going to be amazing as policies coalesce, rates are cut and international deals continue to be made all while tempering the global abuse of America. But he "bothers" the self-angry because of his "arrogance". You SHOULD have pages devoted to Gavin Newsom casting spells with his hands while he speaks, or Pelosi's insider trading or OSC rampant hispanic-culture racism, but instead this thread is most representative of things in this group.

Barkworm

10-29-2025, 11:47 AM

IMJ

10-29-2025, 01:32 PM

Wow, you found a bunch of articles that show that dumb shi*t happens in other countries! This has finally convinced me that Trump is getting things done. Like, helping China to win the trade war. (https://www.economist.com/leaders/2025/10/23/why-china-is-winning-the-trade-war) Thanks!

What you should be thanking me for is hinting at the reality of the world of assets coming into 2026. While the deranged-Trump-hate bubbles around the brains here, the rest of normalcy and well-adjusted people are acquiring assets.

But you go ahead and subscribe to that alleged "China win". Maybe you can also be captivated by whatever "amazing technology the empire has been gifted from god himself to be used against the imperialistic Americans if need be" as well. :roll::lol:

And finding "random Google material" on Germany isn't hard, dude. It's replete out there in that superiority you try to keep over the U.S. The only real $#!(show in America are the complainers inventing problems that either don't or barely exist. Therefore, the problem are the complainers themselves.

Andrew NDB

10-29-2025, 01:46 PM

Here's Germany, racing toward the future!

uBeD-nClUi0

:lol:

IMJ

10-29-2025, 02:08 PM

Doesn't even remotely touch on the social $#!(show in Germany, either. And let's not get started on the invasion of the U.K. or the weird $#!( that happens in Australia while the global-people of the Technodrome forums post more about the Trump administration or the right to bear arms than they do about the pop culture topic at hand.

FredWolfLeonardo

10-29-2025, 02:08 PM

I have faith that Germany will become Great Again during our lifetimes.

Barkworm

10-29-2025, 02:57 PM

Guys, if you're trying to tickle my patriot bone, don't waste your time: I don't have one. :)

FredWolfLeonardo

10-29-2025, 03:21 PM

Guys, if you're trying to tickle my patriot bone, don't waste your time: I don't have one. :)

We probably agree on Germany being better off not relying on the United States considering Trump's pro-Russia leanings. I am optimistic in that regard, that Germany will pivot away from Amrerica, which still has a military presence in the country to this day.

I think Andrew's and IMJ's criticism of Germany are completely different and unrelated.

Andrew NDB

10-29-2025, 03:24 PM

considering Trump's pro-Russia leanings.

You lost your credibility right off the bat.

FredWolfLeonardo

10-29-2025, 03:29 PM

You lost your credibility right off the bat.

Trump literally voted with Russia against Ukraine's sovereignty at the United Nations lol.

Does that not mean anything?

ToTheNines

10-29-2025, 05:15 PM

Is Putin done De-Nazifying Ukraine? Azov Brigade is still active as far as I know.

FredWolfLeonardo

10-29-2025, 05:24 PM

Is Putin done De-Nazifying Ukraine? Azov Brigade is still active as far as I know.

Reminds me of the below quote from the Russian Foreign Minister, Sergey Lavrov about his approach to De-Nazification, and it's parallels to Israel's Bombing of Palestine. Both approaches have not succeeded as of yet.

On 28 December 2023, Lavrov praised Netanyahu for not criticising Russia in public statements. Lavrov said that Russia's goals of "demilitarization" and "denazification" in Ukraine were similar to Israel's stated goals of defeating Hamas and extremism in Gaza.

Andrew NDB

10-30-2025, 02:14 AM

What? This can't be.

Video Analysis Shows Staged Recovery of Israeli Hostage Remains - The New York Times https://share.google/SeaAHoK2oVbLenUEA

FredWolfLeonardo

10-30-2025, 04:10 AM

Andrew, I'm just curious. Do you find the overwhelming Anti-Israel sentiment frustrating and confusing?

In your worldview, do you think people will "go back to normal" and stop hating Israel at one point eventually, or is there no undoing the damage at this point? I personally think that there is no going back.

Coola Yagami

10-30-2025, 01:41 PM

FredWolfLeonardo

10-30-2025, 02:06 PM

Maybe if they made big tiddy anime. It worked for Japan.

Funny you mention that. It's a real tactic of psychological warfare for Israel to flood Palestinian televisions with porn to demoralise the conservative population there.

Andrew NDB

10-30-2025, 02:14 PM

Andrew, I'm just curious. Do you find the overwhelming Anti-Israel sentiment frustrating and confusing?

Do I find it personally frustrating and confusing? Not really either of those things. Just "dumb," based on all available reckoning. Like I've said before, I have no horse in the race with Israel either way but it also doesn't mean I'm going to jump on the dog pile just because it's trendy, and most especially not for very stupid, contradictory "stolen land" arguments.

In your worldview, do you think people will "go back to normal" and stop hating Israel at one point eventually, or is there no undoing the damage at this point? I personally think that there is no going back.

It seems like generationally there is always some fervor from the latest generation of 20 year-olds one way or the other about Israel/Palestine. I think once Hamas is cleared out and Israel and the other allies are able to get in there and rebuild Gaza culturally as well as literally, then in 10, 20 years there won't be very many people going on about the Evil "Genocidal" Israelis in Israel who were SO mean to all the Super Wonderful, Peace-Loving Palestinians in the 2020s. Or at least, it'll return to about pre-10/7 levels, give or take.

FredWolfLeonardo

10-30-2025, 02:28 PM

It seems like generationally there is always some fervor from the latest generation of 20 year-olds one way or the other about Israel/Palestine. I think once Hamas is cleared out and Israel and the other allies are able to get in there and rebuild Gaza culturally as well as literally, then in 10, 20 years there won't be very many people going on about the Evil "Genocidal" Israelis in Israel who were SO mean to all the Super Wonderful, Peace-Loving Palestinians in the 2020s. Or at least, it'll return to about pre-10/7 levels, give or take.

I can see where you're coming from. I personally think that the backlash we have seen among Gen Z is far greater than anything from the previous generations, and it won't be easy to shake off.

With the previous generations who lived closer to the ww2 years, there was the shame and guilt associated with the Holocaust which made them hesitant to criticise Israel as it would have them labelled antisemitic.

With Gen Z, there is hardly any such guilt left, to the point where if you go to any Youtube video of Hitler's AI speeches, the comments will speak for themselves. Furthermore, almost everyone I know from Gen Z believes in the International Conspiracy and Israel's central role in it.

I don't know any such equivalent trend in the Boomers and Millenials.

ToTheNines

10-30-2025, 03:06 PM

I don’t think there’s any going back. Everything you said about Gen Z is true, but even Boomers generally don’t like the idea of our tax dollars going over seas. Now it’s been laid bare just how many billions and billions of dollars we send to Isn’trael and what kind of sh*t they do with it.

Also the violence over there will never stop. I know some of us here like to think October 7tb was completely unprovoked and out of the blue, but it will happen again. Plenty of survivors are around and will never forget what happened to their family.

Andrew NDB

10-30-2025, 03:16 PM

Also the violence over there will never stop. I know some of us here like to think October 7tb was completely unprovoked and out of the blue, but it will happen again. Plenty of survivors are around and will never forget what happened to their family.

Which is always the big argument there from "your" side. "If the IDF takes out the terrorists, it will just create new terrorists in the next generation!" So what then, just don't take out the terrorists? No, you wipe them the f*** out and then if new ones get created then you wipe them out, too. Eventually they'll get the idea to knock it off or they won't and there won't be a "they" anymore.

That's the way this has worked for all of human history but folks act like The Palestinian Plight™ is somehow such a different thing.

ToTheNines

10-30-2025, 03:41 PM

So “your” side is advocating for genocide?

Andrew NDB

10-30-2025, 03:49 PM

So “your” side is advocating for genocide?

Nope, but if it ended up being one then it'd be a self-inflicted one. It'd be like you kicking me super hard in the nuts with steel toe boots every time I come over and punch you in the eye. But I just keep on punching you in the eye so you keep kicking me super hard in the nuts. At some point I cry out, "ToTheNines, if you keep this up my nuts will be mush and you're going to sterilize me!" But I punch you in the eye again, so you keep on kicking -- is this you "sterilizing" me? I mean, eventually, maybe it is, if I just never can bring myself to stop punching you in the eye, right?

There is no "We need to go in there and wipe out all the Palestinians!" on the side of the IDF. There just isn't. THAT would be a genocide/genocidal intent. "We need to go in there and take out Hamas and do what we can to mitigate non-combatant casualties" is just not genocide, no matter how much they want it to be.

Mayhem

10-30-2025, 05:58 PM

There is no "We need to go in there and wipe out all the Palestinians!" on the side of the IDF. There just isn't. THAT would be a genocide/genocidal intent. "We need to go in there and take out Hamas and do what we can to mitigate non-combatant casualties" is just not genocide, no matter how much they want it to be.
Unfortunately that IS how it appears to many, Israel is intent on completely taking the region for itself and removing everyone else.

ToTheNines

10-31-2025, 04:48 AM

Nope, but if it ended up being one then it'd be a self-inflicted one. It'd be like you kicking me super hard in the nuts with steel toe boots every time I come over and punch you in the eye. But I just keep on punching you in the eye so you keep kicking me super hard in the nuts. At some point I cry out, "ToTheNines, if you keep this up my nuts will be mush and you're going to sterilize me!" But I punch you in the eye again, so you keep on kicking -- is this you "sterilizing" me? I mean, eventually, maybe it is, if I just never can bring myself to stop punching you in the eye, right?

:lol: I love the example. I want to make a short animation of me and you as Beavis and Butthead characters doing this.

But yeah, I get what you’re saying. We’re all TMNT fans, we understand the cycle of vengeance more than anyone lol.

We can debate endlessly about the appropriate response to 10-7 should have been, but what really blows my mind to this day is… what was Hamas thinking? What’s their version of that ending up as any kind of victory? Because they’re handing over hostages 2 years later and have almost nothing to show for it.

There is no "We need to go in there and wipe out all the Palestinians!" on the side of the IDF. There just isn't. THAT would be a genocide/genocidal intent.

Ok, I think this is our big split. I think they’re absolutely doing that. Look at the Greater Israel project.

Not to mention back in 2024 they had soldiers bulldozing buildings with people in them. (I read an article about how the soldiers operating them were killing themselves and giving up eating meat because of the horrific experience).

Andrew NDB

11-02-2025, 02:22 AM

We can debate endlessly about the appropriate response to 10-7 should have been, but what really blows my mind to this day is… what was Hamas thinking? What’s their version of that ending up as any kind of victory?

That's an easy answer: Israel's "credibility" on the world stage in their doing exactly what they were always going to do in such an event. Step 1 to remove the Little Satan. They knew they would react as they did. Now, I don't doubt that Hamas is fairly stupid, and probably they got played by Iran for a higher agenda they didn't understand. Or maybe they did... there are accounts now of some of the most recent Israeli hostages being returned saying their captors would say the world is on fire about Israel, there wouldn't even be any home to go back to soon, etc., so maybe it's a lot more calculated even within Hamas than I can guesstimate.

My general understanding is that "Hamas" is a little bit like a non-chickensh** "Antifa" in that it's more a cause than an actual well-defined or even somewhat defined military organization. These seem to be just whoever feels like being "Hamas soldiers" on a given day. Sure, there's figures within it that receive "high orders" from bigger figures within Iran and so on to get marching orders, but largely it's just like an evil version of the Wolverines.

Mayhem

11-03-2025, 03:34 AM

Says a lot about how I view matters, and why so many are scared of change because they lose power…

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQhq-LbkUNZ/?igsh=aWlzcTVkNGtpc3dx

sdp

11-03-2025, 12:47 PM

US debt rose 1 trillion in the last 2 months. Neither party is willing to fix this.

Mayhem

11-03-2025, 05:00 PM

Republicans raise the debt, Democrats reduce it, that’s the cycle

ToTheNines

11-03-2025, 05:06 PM

Republicans raise the debt, Democrats reduce it, that’s the cycle

https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/08/99/99/83/360_F_899998316_yqrD9qwkflMkmWtsmFMHpY96fofWt4gl.j pg

FredWolfLeonardo

11-03-2025, 06:00 PM

Who you voting for New York mayor CyberCubed?

You don't have to answer obviously, but I'm intrigued.

ToTheNines

11-03-2025, 06:53 PM

Who you voting for New York mayor CyberCubed?

You don't have to answer obviously, but I'm intrigued.

https://i.imgur.com/PEYPvf4.jpeg

FredWolfLeonardo

11-03-2025, 07:05 PM

If Communist Candidate Zohran Mamdani wins the Election for Mayor of New York City, it is highly unlikely that I will be contributing Federal Funds, other than the very minimum as required, to my beloved first home, because of the fact that, as a Communist, this once great City has ZERO chance of success, or even survival! It can only get worse with a Communist at the helm, and I don’t want to send, as President, good money after bad. It is my obligation to run the Nation, and it is my strong conviction that New York City will be a Complete and Total Economic and Social Disaster should Mamdani win. His principles have been tested for over a thousand years, and never once have they been successful. I would much rather see a Democrat, who has had a Record of Success, WIN, than a Communist with no experience and a Record of COMPLETE AND TOTAL FAILURE. He was nothing as an Assemblyman, ranked at the bottom of the class and, as Mayor of potentially, again, the Greatest City in the World, HE HAS NO CHANCE to bring it back to its former Glory! We must also remember this — A vote for Curtis Sliwa (who looks much better without the beret!) is a vote for Mamdani. Whether you personally like Andrew Cuomo or not, you really have no choice. You must vote for him, and hope he does a fantastic job. He is capable of it, Mamdani is not!

Trump's Boomer meltdown about Mamdani is hilarious. Imagine its 2025, the redpill about Zionism and Israel is at an all-time high, and you are still ranting about Communists.

Also, Trump suggested that Silwa looks better without a Beret. This automatically invalidates anything he says for the rest of his life.

ToTheNines

11-03-2025, 07:09 PM

Trump is a Cuomosexual.

Mayhem

11-04-2025, 04:57 AM

NYC contributes more to the federal funding than it takes, so Mandani should just withhold sending any money to central government and keep it for NYC.

ToTheNines

11-04-2025, 05:17 AM

I seriously doubt that’s how that works.

Barkworm

11-04-2025, 05:30 AM

Mandani‘s plans for NYC are interesting, especially in a country where poeple see the communist boogeyman everywhere. The only problem is that none of it can be done without significant tax raises and that‘s not going to happen.

ranger_scout

11-04-2025, 08:42 PM

I feel bad for the city of New York. They elected a Communist.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/election-news-11-04-25?post-id=cmhldh85r000j3b6ntwwkgpf4

FredWolfLeonardo

11-04-2025, 09:04 PM

I feel bad for the city of New York. They elected a Communist.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/election-news-11-04-25?post-id=cmhldh85r000j3b6ntwwkgpf4

You should be happy as an Anti-Communist because Mamdani is hated by the Shadowy Cabal that was behind the Communist threat to Europe in the 1940s.

It's okay dude. Communism was never the ultimate villain, it was merely used by a group of nefarious people until it outlived its usefulness to them.

CyberCubed

11-04-2025, 09:47 PM

I'm indifferent, but who knows. I suspect police will be on double duty now because you know there's going to be some assassination attempts coming up. It's going to get ugly.

Andrew NDB

11-04-2025, 10:14 PM

Mandani‘s plans for NYC are interesting

90% of what he's talking about he doesn't have the power to do as mayor. So he's literally lying to everyone pretty much every step of the way. Or maybe the plan will be he will later on talk about how he WANTS to do all these big things but the governor and this that and the other won't let him, so the system is rigged against him and we need to take to the streets and protest, etc., etc..

Coola Yagami

11-04-2025, 10:51 PM

Seems like VA is set for a blue wave. Finally some good news.

After all this Trump crap, I'm ready to get all those ****ers voted out.

I feel bad for the city of New York. They elected a Communist.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/election-news-11-04-25?post-id=cmhldh85r000j3b6ntwwkgpf4

Pfff, better than the alternative. Time to turn it all blue.

ZariusTwo

11-04-2025, 11:58 PM

I'm indifferent. Both sides suck and we need to give third parties a shot.

He talks a big game, but politics aren't a game, most of the time it's mundane and exhausting, and it eventually saps the spirit from everyone.

Coola Yagami

11-05-2025, 12:07 AM

I'm indifferent. Both sides suck and we need to give third parties a shot.

That's true, but everyone is just too locked into that fictional two-party system. We would need someone super charismatic and in your face to get everyone's attention. I can't even name a third party candidate since Perot back in the 90's and that was a when I was a kid that couldn't care less about politics.

A third party person will have to really pull out all the stops to stand a chance.

Jester

11-05-2025, 01:21 AM

I can't even name a third party candidate since Perot back in the 90's and that was a when I was a kid that couldn't care less about politics.
https://y.yarn.co/39ab1314-6aa7-4d1a-924e-660d33e3ff41_text.gif

Barkworm

11-05-2025, 01:53 AM

90% of what he's talking about he doesn't have the power to do as mayor. So he's literally lying to everyone pretty much every step of the way. Or maybe the plan will be he will later on talk about how he WANTS to do all these big things but the governor and this that and the other won't let him, so the system is rigged against him and we need to take to the streets and protest, etc., etc..

Yeah, that was kind of my point. None of it is going to happen and he knows it (or he should). Still interesting to see that this kind of campaigning gets this election result.

FredWolfLeonardo

11-05-2025, 02:02 AM

I'm very happy Mamdani won.

Mamdani is the new resistance. Trump used to be the old resistance, until he bombed Iran and covered for the Epstein Files.

Going forward, this should set a precedence for American conservatives. If they support Israel, they will lose to liberals every single time.

It doesn't matter if you're better than the liberals on every single other issue. None of that matters if you are a slave to this Foreign Cabal.

Andrew NDB

11-05-2025, 02:06 AM

Yeah, that was kind of my point. None of it is going to happen and he knows it (or he should). Still interesting to see that this kind of campaigning gets this election result.

To sum it up, the "Republicans are losing their miiiiinds over Mandami!" kind of stuff is pretty simple. We know he can't and won't be able to do anything he says. The shocking part is that the supposedly greatest, most iconic city in the country voted him in. So now here might be us watching in real time us becoming like Europe, the first baby step. But there was a horrible choice for Cuomo and New York won't vote right, or the ones that will like for the bandanna guy are going "haha... yes, absolutely, here you go... enjoy Mandami! See what happens!" Which is a pretty nihilist stance.

Barkworm

11-05-2025, 04:04 AM

The same ‚nihilistic stance‘ brought you guys the second Trump term.

ranger_scout

11-05-2025, 06:54 AM

Autbot_Benz

11-05-2025, 09:28 AM

Coola Yagami

11-05-2025, 10:46 AM

Jay Jones becoming the Attorney General of Virginia after writing these extremely violent texts is beyond sickening.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/virginia-ag-candidate-once-referenced-putting-two-bullets-head-gop-leader-texts-show

Old news, who cares. Still 10X better than the alternative.

Honestly at this point I'm completely turned off from 'listening to both sides'. Vote them out. Every last one.

Andrew NDB

11-05-2025, 10:59 AM

The same ‚nihilistic stance‘ brought you guys the second Trump term.

Not in the slightest. The first Trump term until COVID brought great restorative reform and an economic boom under the motto of "Making America Great Again." Communism anywhere in the world, ever, has only brought death and despair. Wishing for a second term of the former is not nihilism... wishing for the latter clearly is, for anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together who is physically able to open a book.

Coola Yagami

11-05-2025, 11:00 AM

Not in the slightest. The first Trump term until COVID brought great restorative reform and an economic boom. Communism anywhere in the world, ever, has only brought death and despair. Wishing for a second term of the former is not nihilism... wishing for the latter clearly is.

We were the world's laughing stock the first time, but apparently we wanted seconds of that.

Andrew NDB

11-05-2025, 11:06 AM

We were the world's laughing stock the first time, but apparently we wanted seconds of that.

Yes, we should super care about all those countries that CNN told us were laughing at us.

"Hahaha! Look at them, reinforcing their border like ours already is! Hahaha, stupid country, protecting us while we don't really have a military of our own and asking for more money from us!"

FredWolfLeonardo

11-05-2025, 11:09 AM

Old Vote them out. Every last one.

BASED!

I love the Blue Wave and the crashouts we are getting from the usual suspects like Matt Walsh and Laura Loomer.

Coola Yagami

11-05-2025, 11:19 AM

BASED!

I love the Blue Wave and the crashouts we are getting from the usual suspects like Matt Walsh and Laura Loomer.

It's the first time I actually allowed myself to enjoy those. Usually I stand back and roll my eyes at both sides laughing at each other, both sides calling the other idiots while not looking in the mirror.

Last night seeing the blue wave splash the **** out of the red was a feel-good moment.

Andrew NDB

11-05-2025, 11:26 AM

Last night seeing the blue wave splash the **** out of the red was a feel-good moment.

Is that what happened? :lol:

Coola Yagami

11-05-2025, 11:46 AM

Is that what happened? :lol:

More than Trump would like to admit.

But don't worry, I'm sure your red hat and Latinos for Trump shirt is still in the mail. Though you probably already own a few.

Andrew NDB

11-05-2025, 11:51 AM

More than Trump would like to admit.

You mean blue states voted blue? Next you'll be telling me water is wet.

Barkworm

11-05-2025, 01:18 PM

Not in the slightest. The first Trump term until COVID brought great restorative reform and an economic boom under the motto of "Making America Great Again." Communism anywhere in the world, ever, has only brought death and despair. Wishing for a second term of the former is not nihilism... wishing for the latter clearly is, for anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together who is physically able to open a book.
Here's a bit of a reality check for that "economic boom" claim: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-45827430

There has been a lot of talk here about how the US are superior to Europe which might be understandable from a libertarian or fiscally conservative view. To put this into perspective, here's a fun anecdote: A good friend of mine, wealthy guy, IS a typical fiscal conservative i.e. in favour of de-regualation, tax cuts etc. Naturally, he used to LOVE the US. He also loves travelling with his wife and daughters, sometimes we won't hear from them in a while, then out of nowhere there's a postcard from somewhere far away. So here's a message he sent me three weeks ago after they had gone to NYC for his daughter's tenth birthday (talk about decadent!):

New York was absolutely worth it and is so different from other cities but...wow... this was our third journey to the US together: This is THE world power? Everything's rancid and dirty, infrastructure looks dystopically ready to be demolished? Subways riding on wobbly tracks which have not been maintained in decades? Where society is obviously completely split into rich and poor? Where everything is the cheapest of the cheap and even the doors to our and your bathroom would make a massive improvement to most house entrances? Where it's either junk food or sinfully expensive restaurants (not only in NYC but EVERYWHERE) if you want to eat something actually good?

I mean, we've got our problems in Europe... but ... the fundamentals! We still have those, at least that's my impression. And quality of living. And I can recommend my doctors to someone who earns way less money than I do. Etc, etc, etc. I always wanted to leave Germany for the US but those last couple of visits have fundamentally changed my view of them and have me worried how THOSE guys are supposed to be our leaders...

Bottom-line, this is just some dude's opinion but it was an interesting assessment by someone who used to be a big US fan.

Prowler

11-05-2025, 01:55 PM

Here's a bit of a reality check for that "economic boom" claim: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-45827430

There has been a lot of talk here about how the US are superior to Europe which might be understandable from a libertarian or fiscally conservative view. To put this into perspective, here's a fun anecdote: A good friend of mine, wealthy guy, IS a typical fiscal conservative i.e. in favour of de-regualation, tax cuts etc. Naturally, he used to LOVE the US. He also loves travelling with his wife and daughters, sometimes we won't hear from them in a while, then out of nowhere there's a postcard from somewhere far away. So here's a message he sent me three weeks ago after they had gone to NYC for his daughter's tenth birthday (talk about decadent!):

Bottom-line, this is just some dude's opinion but it was an interesting assessment by someone who used to be a big US fan.

I know a guy who's been to USA too and he said he was shocked at the amount of drug addicts everywhere. He said it reminded him of Portugal in the 90s in that aspect. But I don't remember where he went to exactly, though. Perhaps he was just in a not so nice city, who knows.

ToTheNines

11-05-2025, 02:01 PM

I know a guy who's been to USA too and he said he was shocked at the amount of drug addicts everywhere. He said it reminded him of Portugal in the 90s in that aspect. But I don't remember where he went to exactly, though. Perhaps he was just in a not so nice city, who knows.

It’s basically everywhere. I personally love pretty much all of the cities with bad reputations. They’re not without their bad neighborhoods, but Philly, DC, Baltimore, Detroit, etc. are all pretty awesome.

The drug **** is much more evident in the suburbs and small towns. I think people are just bored and say **** it.

Prowler

11-05-2025, 02:10 PM

It’s basically everywhere. I personally love pretty much all of the cities with bad reputations. They’re not without their bad neighborhoods, but Philly, DC, Baltimore, Detroit, etc. are all pretty awesome.

The drug **** is much more evident in the suburbs and small towns. I think people are just bored and say **** it.
Well, USA having a drug problem has been known for some decades now. I don't know what the ideal solution would be like. I often see people online saying everyone should be like Portugal when it comes to drugs, but I don't think that's that simple, really... Besides, most of us here probably aren't aware of our own drug laws or remember them being decriminalised in 1999 or so. I was like 8. Not exactly something on my radar back then! So it's odd to me to run into people from other nations arguing about drug laws online and saying those things...

ToTheNines

11-05-2025, 02:44 PM

Prowler

11-05-2025, 02:48 PM

I think it is pretty simple. Crack down hard on dealers/traffickers and force addicts into rehab.

The problem with America is, the government is allowing it. The CIA and other spook agencies get a cut for their slush fund. That’s how they operate without any real congressional funding.

Well, yeah, I think what makes it harder to decriminalise drug consumption in most of the world is the fact lots of corrupt politicians, cops, etc. profit more from drug consumption being criminalised than decriminalised.

I don't know much about the infamous War on Drugs in the US, but it didn't seem to work out well for American society itself.

Andrew NDB

11-05-2025, 03:12 PM

I think it is pretty simple. Crack down hard on dealers/traffickers and force addicts into rehab.

The problem with America is, the government is allowing it.

In blue states like mine, yeah. Used to be you wouldn't see any drugs or drug-use anywhere because if anyone reported it, the police would come and throw the scumbag in jail. Now the police can't do anything so you'll see bums smoking crack pipes and shooting needles (free ones that they get from the local government needle exchange) all over the place all out in the open. And it's a many-months-long "discussion" before we can remove any one of these giant tent cities that pop up overnight in many cases.

Coola Yagami

11-05-2025, 03:54 PM

ToTheNines

11-05-2025, 04:12 PM

More than Trump would like to admit.

But don't worry, I'm sure your red hat and Latinos for Trump shirt is still in the mail. Though you probably already own a few.

Actually it’s Latinx for Trump.

They can't and won't because drugs is big business.

Yup. CIA, DEA, the cartels, the prison industrial complex, and many others are all chowing down.

TheLabRat

11-07-2025, 05:21 AM

I feel bad for the city of New York. They elected a Communist.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/election-news-11-04-25?post-id=cmhldh85r000j3b6ntwwkgpf4

I think this is a good opportunity. Let them experience how real socialism works and what price they have to pay. Sometimes you have to get a needle in your thigh to learn what pain is.

FredWolfLeonardo

11-07-2025, 06:03 AM

I swear y'all socialism hating Republicians are no better than the Nazi Hating Democrats. All Boomer talk.

Andrew NDB

11-07-2025, 06:08 AM

I swear y'all socialism hating Republicians are no better than the Nazi Hating Democrats. All Boomer talk.

Go home FredWolfLeonardo. You're drunk.

Mayhem

11-07-2025, 04:27 PM

Yep, this…

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQu7nGsjKWS/?igsh=MWJ2dWoyeDg0bXV1ZQ==

Coola Yagami

11-09-2025, 07:41 PM

Apparently Trump got booed the F out at tonight's NFL game.

Dude should take the hint and admit nobody actually sane likes the guy.

Prowler

11-10-2025, 02:57 AM

sdp

11-10-2025, 09:14 AM

Apparently Trump got booed the F out at tonight's NFL game.

Dude should take the hint and admit nobody actually sane likes the guy.

They're not booing they're saying btrooooump TroooUmP

Coola Yagami

11-10-2025, 10:08 AM

They're not booing they're saying btrooooump TroooUmP

lmao. It would be funny if Trump had a Smithers-ish person there to say that. I'd say that would be Vance, but I didn't see him with him at the game.

Mayhem

11-10-2025, 02:37 PM

Americans not knowing the difference between socialism and communism will never stop being funny to me. That and when they claim that universal healthcare is socialism or communism as well.
Universal healthcare, Medicaid etc are socialist constructs, policies designed to help everyone if and when they need it. The funny part are the people who rail against socialism yet are perfectly happy taking their Medicaid benefits etc.

Prowler

11-10-2025, 02:40 PM

Universal healthcare, Medicaid etc are socialist constructs, policies designed to help everyone if and when they need it. The funny part are the people who rail against socialism yet are perfectly happy taking their Medicaid benefits etc.

Sure, but it's not something only socialist politicians defend anymore. Majority of political parties across Europe don't want to put an end to universal healthcare, regardless of being left-wing or right-wing.

A country having universal healthcare does not make it "a socialist country".

FredWolfLeonardo

11-10-2025, 06:27 PM

https://5townscentral.com/2025/11/10/hear-me-out-laura-loomer-calls-for-end-to-all-u-s-aid-to-israel-declaring-it-a-win-win-for-america-israel/

Laura Loomer calls for an end for all U.S. Aid to Israel.

This is how much the conversation has shifted. American public opinion has become so Anti-Israel that even this Hardcore Zionist is calling for an end to all aid.

Regardless of her reasons (which are to prevent U.S. from restraining Israel in its wars, and decrease the tide of Anti-Israel rhethoric), it's mind blowing that she's suggesting this in the first place.

What's next? Andrew NDB calling for an end to all U.S. aid to Israel?

Autbot_Benz

11-10-2025, 06:30 PM

Dozy don is falling asleep at meetings apparently it’s happened a couple of times now :lol: I thought Biden was the sleepy one?

https://i.imgur.com/wK2rRYj.jpeg

IMJ

11-10-2025, 07:07 PM

I read some of the commentary here, particularly about "socialism" and "communism" and can't help but wonder why some of you geniuses haven't done public service and solved so many of society's problems as the "leaders of men" that you are with your incredibly informed and falsely academic ********.

The reason that Medicaid works as a "social affair" is because it's the goddam melting pot of the United States assimilating a characteristic of "socialism" for a non-full-spectrum support system.

Honestly, what the honest f is wrong with you people? I'm reminded of when mullet-headed wrestler-guy was hating on everyone, and in a fit talked about eating someone's skin as a viable option for dealing with some of the people here. :lol: Except that cannibalism is right next to socialism as a valid form of society - both are dog$#!(

Dozy don is falling asleep at meetings apparently it’s happened a couple of times now :lol: I thought Biden was the sleepy one?

https://i.imgur.com/wK2rRYj.jpeg

It is hysterical... except that Dozy Don is working his ass off, so..... Biden was sleeping while a robotic pen signed things for him. On that note, don't ever buy a Biden autograph.

Coola Yagami

11-10-2025, 07:52 PM

except that Dozy Don is working his ass off,

Golfing and tweeting?

Autbot_Benz

11-10-2025, 07:53 PM

Golfing and tweeting?

That (though he doesn’t tweet he truth socials) and making everything expensive cause of his stupid Tarrifs (groceries and material goods)

Mayhem

11-11-2025, 04:55 AM

DonOLD is basically running nothing, and is just a figurehead now being told what to say and where to go. He's too dementia ridden to know otherwise.

Barkworm

11-11-2025, 07:58 AM

Golfing and tweeting?
You are being unfair. He is definitely working hard, making tons of quick bucks off the presidency. About 3 billion dollars!

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/08/18/the-number

ToTheNines

11-11-2025, 12:07 PM

https://i.imgur.com/Y1ro4LG.jpeg

FredWolfLeonardo

11-11-2025, 02:36 PM

Didn't Trump literally once say Make Israel Great Again?

Complete cringe.

FredWolfLeonardo

11-12-2025, 02:20 PM

Uh oh. Looks like the Ghost of Epstein has returned to haunt Trump once again.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c2dr3z9egljt

Anyone defending this would've been on the offensive if the leak was about a Democrat and you know it.

Mayhem

11-12-2025, 02:50 PM

FredWolfLeonardo

11-12-2025, 03:09 PM

The thing is, most Democrat voters are release them, whoever is on it should be held accountable, even if there's Democrats on there. No similarity from the other side, it's scapegoat and diversion time.

I feel like this more than anything else (other than maybe Israel) is causing Trump's own supporters to turn against him. Even I supported Trump insofar that he was a force against the evil establishment pre-election but it's time he gets held to account and there should be no excuses.

It sometimes feels like we are living in a dramatic theatre play where a leader uses legitimate grieviances to rise to power but when he fails to deliver, its his very own supporters who cause his poetic downfall, and your own people turning against you stings much harder than any left wing opposition could in a million years.

Andrew NDB

11-12-2025, 03:15 PM

It sometimes feels like we are living in a dramatic theatre play

Oh, believe me. I know you do. And quite a few people in this thread.

Mayhem

11-12-2025, 03:15 PM

It sometimes feels like we are living in a dramatic theatre play where a leader uses legitimate grieviances to rise to power but when he fails to deliver, its his very own supporters who cause his poetic downfall, and your own people turning against you stings much harder than any left wing opposition could in a million years.
And that's basically what happened to Mussolini, and look how he ended...

FredWolfLeonardo

11-12-2025, 03:18 PM

Oh, believe me. I know you do. And quite a few people in this thread.

I'd like to see you defend your Great Leader Trump after this one.

Andrew NDB

11-12-2025, 04:07 PM

https://i.ibb.co/HpCWQ476/583327044-24869116992716319-4916166571317054573-n.jpg

IndigoErth

11-12-2025, 08:33 PM

Source?

I mean, redacted info is supposed to be kept from the public, so exactly who had that inside info and leaked it that freely, and sans accountability?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/12/politics/trump-administration-meeting-house-effort-epstein-document-release

Exclusive: Trump administration holds Situation Room meeting over House effort to force release of all of DOJ’s Epstein files

Guess it's that serious to them for some reason.

ToTheNines

11-13-2025, 04:54 AM

I’ve been down the Epstein rabbit hole and back more times than I can count. There’s no denying Trump was close to him for years, but something about these emails is setting off my bullsh*t meter.

One of the screenshots I’ve seen the most is one where Epstein goes "I have met some very bad people. None as bad as Trump. Not one decent cell in his body."

Really?

On the other hand, it seems like Trump’s hitting the panic button and desperately tried to stop the vote. But that’s from the outside looking in.

Mayhem

11-13-2025, 05:02 AM

On the other hand, it seems like Trump’s hitting the panic button and desperately tried to stop the vote. But that’s from the outside looking in.
The vote has been triggered, there’s now enough signatures. What happens in the vote is another matter.

ToTheNines

11-13-2025, 05:26 AM

Coola Yagami

11-13-2025, 06:59 AM

Also, why does this seem to be solely focused on Trump all of a sudden?

Epstein was an intelligence asset running a honeypot blackmail operation to gain influence over rich and powerful people all over the world. He was mostly plugged in to the Democrat side of American politics (Trump was a D until some point in the 2000’s).

Many people involved with him already went down or are retired from politics, but there are hundreds of people, including Bill Clinton, that should be getting named right now.

Mostly because one of Trump's own campaign promises was to release the files. Then he started with the 'there are no files' and 'stop talking about the files' and now he's trying to stop them from being released. He's pretty much putting the spotlight on himself, which would make no sense unless he was on them.

I'm thinking at this point the only way the Republicans are getting out of this one is to double-down on the 'those files never existed' narrative.

We've had those keys jingled in front of us so many times, at this point I'll believe it when I finally see it.

FredWolfLeonardo

11-13-2025, 09:43 AM

https://i.ibb.co/HpCWQ476/583327044-24869116992716319-4916166571317054573-n.jpg

Lets assume for the sake of argument that the Virginia mentioned in the unredacted email is without a doubt Giuffre even though it doesn't mention her surname.

Did you know Virginia also once testified against Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer, Alan Dershowitz for Sexual Abuse but dropped all her charges against him once he filed counter-defamation claims?

She was also quoted as saying in 2011 that Trump flirted with her, but then claimed in 2016 that he didn't while being questioned by Maxwell's lawyers. The timing is suspicious, she seemingly took back the first quote just around the first time Trump got elected.

Virginia has been shown to bend to pressure in both cases, which is understandable because of her past trauma and because there are undoubtebly powerful figures surrounding the Epstein case capable of doing damage. Unfortunately, she is dead now under suspicious circumstances.

There is only one way forward. Release the Full Epstein Files now, no excuses.

Coola Yagami

11-13-2025, 10:40 AM

There is only one way forward. Release the Full Epstein Files now, no excuses.

This. Now. Regardless who is and isn't on it.

And if turns out that Trump isn't on it (yeah right), he owes us an explanation as to why he seemed so dead-set to not release them sooner.

Cause let's face it, if the files are ever actually released... it will be despite all of Trump's efforts.

ToTheNines

11-13-2025, 10:43 AM

I think these emails are fake. Just saw one where Epstein, for some reason, states that Bill Clinton was never on the island lmao

The flight logs say otherwise, of course.

Coola Yagami

11-13-2025, 10:56 AM

I think these emails are fake. Just saw one where Epstein, for some reason, states that Bill Clinton was never on the island lmao

The flight logs say otherwise, of course.

They could be but it doesn't change the fact that we still need those files release no matter what. I don't care if Keanu Reeves is on it, just release them.

Andrew NDB

11-13-2025, 11:27 AM

Lets assume for the sake of argument that the Virginia mentioned in the unredacted email is without a doubt Giuffre even though it doesn't mention her surname.

It is, already confirmed by the White House. The obviously telling part is why these democrat "leakers" redacted her name at all. Of course they knew if we knew who that was then it would be a nothingburger, based on what she's already said elsewhere. But if wee dooon't knoooowwwww, then it's much better for damning Trump.

And of course this is emerging right when Trump is doing a victory lap for pulling enough democrats to end the shutdown and embarrassing them. When, you know, they could've "leaked" this anytime even since Biden. It's been in their pocket for just the right moment, apparently.

FredWolfLeonardo

11-13-2025, 12:03 PM

The explanation given is that they didn't want to disclose the victim names, and considering that her family might find this news distressing, maybe they were right to have her name redacted. I still think all these emails are incredibly scandalous regardless.

And It's not like Virginia hasn't taken back claims of being abused before when facing pressure, so it's not an open and shut case where Virginia exonerating Trump disproves all of these emails, most of which aren't even about her specifically.

And I think this stuff not being released during Biden's time was evil. I think I remember Thomas Massie saying the Democrats blocked the release of the Epstein Files during the Biden Administration? (Or something along those lines)

ranger_scout

11-13-2025, 12:18 PM

Andrew NDB

11-13-2025, 12:20 PM

Just in case no one heard about this, but this ruling makes me glad to live in the state of Texas. No one should ever take their kids to these shows.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/federal-appeals-court-oks-enforcement-of-texas-drag-show-ban.html

That's great news. Now the drag queens can bring their story hour to places like nursing and retirement homes instead -- after all, it's not JUST about the children for them, right? Right?

Mayhem

11-13-2025, 02:58 PM

No one ever been to a panto then. You hardly consider drag performers a threat here.

And I think this stuff not being released during Biden's time was evil. I think I remember Thomas Massie saying the Democrats blocked the release of the Epstein Files during the Biden Administration? (Or something along those lines)
The DoJ had the files locked down during Biden because it was still considered an active investigation. They’ve only become eligible because Pam Bondi I think declared this closed near the start of Trump’s term.

ranger_scout

11-13-2025, 05:49 PM

That's great news. Now the drag queens can bring their story hour to places like nursing and retirement homes instead -- after all, it's not JUST about the children for them, right? Right?

No one ever been to a panto then. You hardly consider drag performers a threat here.

Look at what they were doing with kids at this show in Dallas back in 2022. The light-up sign in the background is revolting.

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/dallas-family-friendly-kids-drag-show-mr-misster-protest/287-c7984c66-6141-4690-97b1-ec0b9882b4bb

Mayhem

11-14-2025, 03:20 AM

The link doesn’t work for me, don’t know if because doesn’t exist now or I can’t see it due to being outside the US.

Mayhem

11-14-2025, 07:18 AM

The new Epsteins emails 'suggest':

- Trump knew about Epstein's operations involving underaged girls and asked him to stop (by stop, this refers to taking them from Mar-a-Lago)
- Trump spent hours alone with one underaged girl, the girl may have been Virginia Guiffre
- In his final years, Epstein grew to hate Trump, saying that Trump was the singular worst person he'd ever met
- Andrew kept contact with Epstein longer than he has claimed to
- Biographer Michael Wolff likely knew of Trumps involvement

Another thing worth mentioning from the newly released batch of conversations is that Trump said he'd cut ties with Epstein a long time ago before he ran for President, but it's also been found out that he shared a Thanksgiving dinner with him during his first term https://www.rawstory.com/trump-epstein-thanksgiving/

So saying he didn't really know him and hadn't spoken to him in years was a lie. Trump is now claiming this is all a Democrat hoax!

It's a daming indictment as well that no matter what his guilt (which we know there will be some on some level), he will never face punishment and won't be removed from office for it as we've reached a point where no President can ever be punished for their conduct anymore so in a direct manner the Epstein outcome won't affect him in that way. I think at this point, its importance from a political angle, rests on it perhaps being the last major new story that might prevent what he and the Republicans clearly intend for the country in the coming years.

ranger_scout

11-14-2025, 07:23 AM

The link doesn’t work for me, don’t know if because doesn’t exist now or I can’t see it due to being outside the US.

I think it might be because you live outside the U.S. Here are videos of it.

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ToTheNines

11-14-2025, 07:25 AM

- In his final years, Epstein grew to hate Trump, saying that Trump was the singular worst person he'd ever met.

Epstein was a Resistance girlie lmao

- Andrew kept contact with Epstein longer than he has claimed to.

Damn, I know y’all like to argue with Andrew on here but do you need to start these kinda rumors about the guy?

FredWolfLeonardo

11-14-2025, 11:22 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/Political_Revolution/comments/1owof8b/latest_epstein_leak_indicates_trump_gave_bill/

New emails suggest that Trump did a Monica Lewinsky on Bill Clinton. Maybe this is why he hated Hillary?

ToTheNines

11-14-2025, 11:25 AM

So incredibly fake. Funny, but fake.

Andrew NDB

11-14-2025, 03:00 PM

Definitely a valid point.

https://i.ibb.co/Kj259Fq8/582893924-24886224154338936-6194727773275795086-n.jpg

Mayhem

11-14-2025, 03:21 PM

Giving about as many ****s as MAGA and Trump are to the rest of the country currently, yes…

Coola Yagami

11-14-2025, 05:11 PM

Definitely a valid point.

https://i.ibb.co/Kj259Fq8/582893924-24886224154338936-6194727773275795086-n.jpg

Literal who? They probably don't care cause they never heard of him.

Andrew NDB

11-14-2025, 06:53 PM

Literal who? They probably don't care cause they never heard of him.

What are you talking about? Everybody knows Fetterman. It's the democrats' golden boy senator who had the stroke and came back and only wears hoodies... but then went on to become probably the sanest democrat of the bunch. And he STILL votes with democrats on 90% of all issues. But now they hate him because of the 10% he doesn't fall into their collective thought bubble.

ToTheNines

11-14-2025, 07:35 PM

https://s.faketrumptweet.com/mhzm411n_1x9d3fm_u4gpi9.png

FredWolfLeonardo

11-14-2025, 07:53 PM

https://s.faketrumptweet.com/mhzm411n_1x9d3fm_u4gpi9.png

I was waiting for this :lol:

Real or fake, the thought of Trump hating Hilary because she got in the way of his one true love is hilarious.

Stu_Padasso

11-14-2025, 09:42 PM

Meanwhile, the LBC channel on YouTube has blocked me from watching a video because I use a VPN.

Stu_Padasso

11-14-2025, 09:58 PM

Definitely a valid point.

https://i.ibb.co/Kj259Fq8/582893924-24886224154338936-6194727773275795086-n.jpg

I can’t say that I’ve agreed with a lot of what he’s said, but he seems to come from a genuine place and I wish him a full recovery.

Where is Mr. Rogers when we need him?

Autbot_Benz

11-14-2025, 09:58 PM

https://s.faketrumptweet.com/mhzm411n_1x9d3fm_u4gpi9.png

Or as Trump said that one time, “are we still talking about Jeffery Epstein?” :lol:

Coola Yagami

11-14-2025, 11:08 PM

I remember back in the day Kenneth Star revealed Lewinsky went down on Bubba 37 times. You think Trump broke that record?

Jester

11-15-2025, 01:26 AM

okQhigubFsQ

I couldn't resist...

Andrew NDB

11-15-2025, 01:36 AM

I can’t say that I’ve agreed with a lot of what he’s said, but he seems to come from a genuine place and I wish him a full recovery.

So either you don't agree with him on the super evil, mean and secretive Israeli people or on him supporting the government reopening. He isn't really that controversial beyond these things.

In all fairness, now... of late (as there's a bit of a big thing popping off now) I've listened to a little bit of Tucker Carlson cutting some REALLY convincing arguments against, say, Ben Shapiro of late. To where wow, those are some compelling arguments I've heard. Beyond Tucker just doing his usual "I-I-I'm JUST asking questions here!" beyond him being too chickensh** to say what he's really trying to say. With that said, I do remember Shapiro had been all but begging him to meet him on the debate stage like even like 8 months ago and Tucker wasn't having it.

FredWolfLeonardo

11-15-2025, 01:57 AM

Trump has made some pretty strong statements about both Thomas Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene.

I wonder why?

In all fairness, now... of late (as there's a bit of a big thing popping off now) I've listened to a little bit of Tucker Carlson cutting some REALLY convincing arguments against, say, Ben Shapiro of late. To where wow, those are some compelling arguments I've heard. Beyond Tucker just doing his usual "I-I-I'm JUST asking questions here!" beyond him being too chickensh** to say what he's really trying to say. With that said, I do remember Shapiro had been all but begging him to meet him on the debate stage like even like 8 months ago and Tucker wasn't having it.

Did you watch the Tucker Carlson Nick Fuentes interview and have any thoughts about it?

Also, I'm glad you're seeing some good arguments against Little Ben. I can't stand that guy lol.

Andrew NDB

11-15-2025, 02:43 AM

Trump has made some pretty strong statements about both Thomas Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene.

I wonder why?

Because they're morons. Especially the latter.

Did you watch the Tucker Carlson Nick Fuentes interview and have any thoughts about it?

Quite a bit of it. Mostly yeesh. In terms of that is a guy that should be tarred and feathered. Probably cancelled. And has probably never seen a good beatdown in his life. A whiny little racist (Fuentes). Mostly every clip I've seen of him, I want to punch him in the mouth. And within the last week is the first time I've ever seen clips of him in my life.

Also, I'm glad you're seeing some good arguments against Little Ben. I can't stand that guy lol.

I agree with him about a lot of things but a lot less of late. In terms of economics.

FredWolfLeonardo

11-15-2025, 03:24 AM

I 've known about Nick Fuentes since 2021.

It's interesting seeing reactions of all these older folk just discovering him now.

He's definetly a huge hit among Gen Z men and his popularity is only skyrocketing.

Andrew NDB

11-15-2025, 04:00 AM

ZariusTwo

11-15-2025, 11:00 AM

BBC apologized to Trump. Trump is still suing them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c891jp9j79do

Barkworm

11-15-2025, 11:49 AM

Well, he should. What happened is a horrible stain on their reputation.

IndigoErth

11-15-2025, 12:41 PM

He's definetly a huge hit among Gen Z men and his popularity is only skyrocketing.

Sad for the rest of that generation that have those guys as potential partners, friends, etc. to choose from and put up with. People like him just want to see society burn if they think a resulting status quo remains in their favor. We can't stop nutjobs from existing or having the freedom to hold that kind of mentality, but it's really gross that people like him also have the freedom to target younger, more impressionable minds like they do in the attempt to drag others down with them. And all that BS is out of mass insecurity that people who aren't like them are going to get them and take away that status quo.

Mayhem

11-15-2025, 12:46 PM

Trump has made some pretty strong statements about both Thomas Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene. I wonder why?
Because she finally stopped drinking the MAGA Koolaid, and has vaguely come to her senses. Going “off Project 2025 message” displeases the orange diaper baby, hence the petty name calling.

Well, he should. What happened is a horrible stain on their reputation.
Pffff, the sort of thing Trump has AI generated and spewed on X is far worse. It’s not as if anything in the documentary was fake and not something Trump said. Don’t condone what happened, but in the scheme of things, he hasn’t got a leg to stand on imo.

FredWolfLeonardo

11-15-2025, 12:58 PM

I think it's pretty obvious but I'll say it anyways, Trump disavowed Massie and MTG because they're both against Israel and they're both pushing for the release of the Epstein Files.

MAGA is cucked and dead.

IMJ

11-15-2025, 03:04 PM

Well, he should. What happened is a horrible stain on their reputation.

Happy to see you say that rather than the sort of typical "dig in on the Trump-hate under all conditions" thing. Not that you do that all of the time, but I'm just sayin'....

sdp

11-15-2025, 03:06 PM

Why is Bill Clinton trending on Twitter?

Edit:oh my

Stu_Padasso

11-15-2025, 04:07 PM

Good for them. Racists. And I don't throw the term around lightly.

I’ll admit that I don’t know much about Nick because I have a job, but from what I’ve seen he reminds me of some little kid who has just learned the “F-word” and is screaming it at the supermarket.

Spank that little egdelord.

IMJ

11-15-2025, 05:55 PM

I’ll admit that I don’t know much about Nick because I have a job, but from what I’ve seen he reminds me of some little kid who has just learned the “F-word” and is screaming it at the supermarket.

Spank that little egdelord.

I don't really know anything about the guy beyond the google-fu report that he's "hosts America First, a livestream promoting Christian nationalism, white supremacy, misogyny, anti-LGBTQ views, and antisemitism including Holocaust denial."

Now, is that accurate and he's a true far-right nut? Or is that liberal google-fu doing it's thing once again with full-on narrative creation? I honestly don't know, but I do know that's the kind of BS that they say about Charlie Kirk and he wasn't even remotely that obtuse.

FredWolfLeonardo

11-15-2025, 06:00 PM

The Google Blurb is not inaccurate but that's just the surface level stuff.

If you want to know him better, its better to watch his show for yourself.

I started watching it around June 2024, around the time of the Trump-Biden debate.

ToTheNines

11-15-2025, 06:24 PM

1ZHjBSuBd10?si=SeZbU585c9VeUKDU

FredWolfLeonardo

11-15-2025, 06:26 PM

I'll never see the Punk Frogs the same way again after the Groyper meme :lol:

Coola Yagami

11-15-2025, 07:08 PM

I’ll admit that I don’t know much about Nick because I have a job.

Exactly. Not all of us are obsessed with politics and make that most of our personality.

Like Kirk, I never heard of the guy til this recent event.

Barkworm

11-16-2025, 12:05 AM

Because she finally stopped drinking the MAGA Koolaid, and has vaguely come to her senses. Going “off Project 2025 message” displeases the orange diaper baby, hence the petty name calling.

Pffff, the sort of thing Trump has AI generated and spewed on X is far worse. It’s not as if anything in the documentary was fake and not something Trump said. Don’t condone what happened, but in the scheme of things, he hasn’t got a leg to stand on imo.
The populist movement has always been about making people disbelieve fact-based news sources while spreading misinformation themselves. If the BBC (which has always seen itself belonging to the gold standard of news sources) stoops to this level, right wingers everywhere will use this for their cause for years to come.

Mayhem

11-16-2025, 05:02 AM

The populist movement has always been about making people disbelieve fact-based news sources while spreading misinformation themselves. If the BBC (which has always seen itself belonging to the gold standard of news sources) stoops to this level, right wingers everywhere will use this for their cause for years to come.
Technically, as noted, it was an outside third party that made the documentary, but ultimately Panorama and the BBC signed off on it. Nothing shown was faked, Trump said it all. But like that Morecambe and Wise Andre Previn sketch, not completely in that order.

Barkworm

11-16-2025, 09:00 AM

Come on, man. Changing the order of what someone said IS faking it. There's no sugercoating to this.

Mayhem

11-16-2025, 10:48 AM

Compared to the AI slop Trump has posted?

ToTheNines

11-16-2025, 11:37 AM

Barkworm’s red pill moment

Barkworm

11-16-2025, 01:50 PM

Compared to the AI slop Trump has posted?
The BBC is not supposed to be compared to some idiot's social media bullsh*t but to objective journalistic standards. It's not that hard.

Andrew NDB

11-16-2025, 02:56 PM

Wasn't there a Simpsons cartoon where they edited what the principal of Bart's school was saying out of order into something horrible? Same difference.

ProphetofGanja

11-16-2025, 04:13 PM

Why is Bill Clinton trending on Twitter?

Edit:oh my

:lol::lol::lol:

ZariusTwo

11-17-2025, 12:58 AM

Besides their lack of journalistic integrity, half of the BBC is full of narcissistic bullies and convicted paedophiles. A whole organization of Epstiens.

If Trump takes them down it's well deserved and a long time coming.

Barkworm

11-17-2025, 02:39 AM

Wasn't there a Simpsons cartoon where they edited what the principal of Bart's school was saying out of order into something horrible? Same difference.

Nah, you're thinking of the episode in which Homer is accused of sexual harassment.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_8uM0zOBuSw

Mayhem

11-17-2025, 04:17 AM

Post Blair, Campbell has actually got up in my consideration. Bit like he stopped drinking the New Labour koolaid in the way MTG has with the Maga koolaid.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRH9HiOFJGK/?igsh=MWVodDhyajZ1eXE5ag==

So yes, this is rather how I feel about about matters. Accountability and taking steps isn’t something other outlets have actually done. No one got chucked from Fox for example for horrible lies and smears for example.

Besides their lack of journalistic integrity, half of the BBC is full of narcissistic bullies and convicted paedophiles. A whole organization of Epstiens. If Trump takes them down it's well deserved and a long time coming.
I’m curious to know in the context of today, right now, what this is referencing… aside from Naga.

Personally, more chucking at Nick Fuentes going off on Trump re Epstein…

Coola Yagami

11-17-2025, 08:43 AM

In regards to the Trump/Clinton thing, currently the Republicans are finding the story a little hard to swallow. When asked to comment, Trump was choked up at the moment, but he assures the American people that he has a firm grasp of the situation.

Rumors suggest Bill gave Trump a gag order on the subject.

Yeah i know that kinda humor is low hanging fruit, but apparently Trump was an expert of that back in the day.

ZariusTwo

11-17-2025, 08:56 AM

I’m curious to know in the context of today, right now, what this is referencing… aside from Naga.

Dude, come on, you know what the BBC are like at this point. Everyone in the UK does. Saville, Edwards, Westwood, the list goes on. They're pure filth. Don't cover for them just because your least favourite guy is kicking their ass.

Mayhem

11-17-2025, 05:46 PM

Dude, come on, you know what the BBC are like at this point. Everyone in the UK does. Saville, Edwards, Westwood, the list goes on. They're pure filth. Don't cover for them just because your least favourite guy is kicking their ass.
“half of the BBC is full of narcissistic bullies and convicted paedophiles”

That’s why I said today, right now, because none of those three have anything to do with the BBC currently. In the past, yes. But you said “is”. Semantics yes, but that’s important. Can easily say the US government is full of bullies and paedophiles and people are voting them into office…