US American politics

[Dpooly84]

I'm seeing allot of backlash in Democratic run cities, New York, Chicago, Oakland/San Fran, Portland and Seattle. Don't complain about the illegals and rampant crime and drug use, when this is exactly what you voted for. You listened to flowery words that sounded nice but had no basis in reality. My how these progressive cities are flourishing... I guess if you like zombie junkies, hypodermic needles, and piles off human feces everywhere, enjoy the chaos you voted for.

[Monty Mole]

You that Trump worshiping guy?

[Dpooly84]

You that Trump worshiping guy?

Lol that's your response? You can't dispute any of the facts, just jump to Trump? You one of those, dems? Biden lie sucker lol

[Dpooly84]

I'm watching these videos of African American women in NY decimating Eric Adams at town halls, the same in Chicago with Brandon Johnson. And videos of African American business owners in Oakland crying for help, and it's all f'n sad. The really sad part is African American women vote Democrat 95% of the time. Do people know that the Republican party was started to fight the democrats who supported slavery? The confederacy were democrats, the republic fought to free slaves. Do you know who started the kkk? It was the democrats, these are facts; check them.

[Dpooly84]

It's crazy how freely Joe bidens Crack head son hunter uses the n word when his father said in 77, and I QUOTE "Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point. We have got to make some move on this." This was in response to desegregation. Then in 2019 told a black man to his face, that he wasn't black if he don't vote for him. An episode of the breakfast club.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I don't disagree that the Democrats are full of problems, but I think that the Republicians aren't much better. I see them as being from the same rotten foundation.

[Dpooly84]

I don't disagree that the Democrats are full of problems, but I think that the Republicians aren't much better. I see them as being from the same rotten foundation.

That's fair, I'm pretty in the middle but the left is constantly attacked with lies and it's bs. The right is the obviously the racist side.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I often feel that the Democrat and Republician parties aren't as divided on many issues as they claim to be, and many of them use the tactics of Divide and Conquer to keep the people in line while elite politicians reap the benefits.

That being said, I do believe that voting is important, but who to vote for is dependent on a variety of factors. I currently align more with the Republician Party because I see the Democrats as being more subservient to the ideology of Cultural Marxism, but unfortunately the Republician Party has its fair share of Communist Sympathisers.

[Dpooly84]

I often feel that the Democrat and Republician parties aren't as divided on many issues as they claim to be, and many of them use the tactics of Divide and Conquer to keep the people in line while elite politicians reap the benefits.

That being said, I do believe that voting is important, but who to vote for is dependent on a variety of factors. I currently align more with the Republician Party because I see the Democrats as being more subservient to the ideology of Cultural Marxism, but unfortunately the Republician Party has its fair share of Communist Sympathisers.

You're response shows that you already known what I'm talking about. Just know who you're voting for.

[Andrew NDB]

I don't disagree that the Democrats are full of problems, but I think that the Republicians aren't much better. I see them as being from the same rotten foundation.

Of course. But it's not the Republicans that want to trans the children, let them mutilate their genitals and sterilize themselves while having the schools encourage this and hide it from the parents, put drag queens in classrooms, open borders, and going after both free speech and the 2nd amendment. At worst, you could say the Republicans are big on abortion restrictions, a lot of them are Christian, and they don't believe the world will end in 10 years if we don't rely on solar and wind (and they don't deny climate change, they just believe we can innovate our way around it while the tech is developed to directly combat it if need be). So what?

I do think striking down Roe V. Wade was a bad move for them, though. They were on a nice path until that. They should have just let it go, even if it was a super flimsy decision that didn't hold any water.

[Dpooly84]

Of course. But it's not the Republicans that want to trans the children, let them mutilate their genitals and sterilize themselves while having the schools encourage this and hide it from the parents, put drag queens in classrooms, open borders, and going after both free speech and the 2nd amendment. At worst, you could say the Republicans are big on abortion restrictions, a lot of them are Christian, and they don't believe the world will end in 10 years if we don't rely on solar and wind (and they don't deny climate change, they just believe we can innovate our way around it while the tech is developed to directly combat it if need be). So what?

I do think striking down Roe V. Wade was a bad move for them, though. They were on a nice path until that. They should have just let it go, even if it was a super flimsy decision that didn't hold any water.

Yo I'm right there with you, I don't agree with abortions. But I also feel like I have no right in telling a woman what she can do with her body. That's not the hill I'm willing to die on. There's clear medical reasons why some women would need a abortion

[Andrew NDB]

Yo I'm right there with you, I don't agree with abortions.

I didn't say that I disagree with abortions. I'm fine with them. If there is to be strict legislature that prohibits them after 3-4 months, I'm good with that, but abortions themselves are fine* beyond that. I'd even have them mandated in certain cases. I just think for Republicans and the kind of move we need to see, they should have let the Roe V Wade easy win go. They grossly underestimated the blowback.

* Not fine, in that it's really ending a life, but fine in that they're available. And it shouldn't be a trivial thing and certainly not a thing that's celebrated. Because that's some dark sh** right there. And how can we pretend it's not a life, but charge someone with two counts of murder if someone shoots a pregnant woman?

[Dpooly84]

It's pretty funny how many leftis this board has but nobody wants to dispute these facts? Why is that? Let's go hit me with some facts please!

[ChosenOne]

It's pretty funny how many leftis this board has but nobody wants to dispute these facts? Why is that? Let's go hit me with some facts please!

As I'm sure you know, if leftists could parse facts from propaganda they wouldn't be leftists.

[Andrew NDB]

As I'm sure you know, if leftists could parse facts from propaganda they wouldn't be leftists.

It's much easier to comprehend when you understand that this is a religion to them.

[Sumac]

It's pretty funny how many leftis this board has but nobody wants to dispute these facts? Why is that? Let's go hit me with some facts please!
They can not handle places which are not echo chambers.

[Andrew NDB]

They can not handle places which are not echo chambers.

Their churches, basically.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Their churches, basically.

“Wokeness is not a religion!”

Yes, it is. It’s a cult.

[robertfiduciary]

Oi. The dumbest people.

Anyway, here's a real interesting article which discusses how the majority of gun deaths actually take place in rural areas. NOT cities.

/https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/map-gun-death-rates-lower-cities-than-rural-counties-rcna81462 (https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/map-gun-death-rates-lower-cities-than-rural-counties-rcna81462)

And let's just be completely honest here:

You're not "seeing a lot" (which is how you spell that word, btw) of anything in those cities. In the past two years, I've been to New York and Chicago. Have you? Or have you been "seeing a lot" of that on television? You know, on that "news" channel you all pretend that you don't watch.

(And, to be perfectly clear: even if you *don't* actually watch Fox "News," guess what? Whatever "news" source you're digesting probably... gets... their... information... from... Fox... "News").

So, yeah. Please tell everyone which of those cities you've been to. Chicago has problems, sure. All places do! But isn't it weird, just isn't it odd, how all the cities always cited by these "news" stories have predominately non-white people in them?

And isn't it weird, too, how Fox "News" caters to... oh, yeah. White people?

Probably just a coincidence. Probably nothing to notice at all.

I'd sure be interested in reading about more things you're "seeing allot" of, though. Maybe next time you could cite a source, like I did? It'll make you a hair more credible. Which shouldn't be hard.

Because right now, you're not credible at all.

[Dpooly84]

Nice try lol. You're defense to my facts is to jump to "racism", and fox News. What does that have to do with anything?

See the funny thing is I don't need to go to Chicago or New York to know what's going on. We have this little thing called the internet and some people like myself use it to see what's happens all over. Google Chicago's residents angry over illegal immigration, you'll see news clips from all your precious news channels covering the town halls where the residents are condemning thier democratic leaders. Give it a gogg you dingbat.

Then after that Google mayor Eric Adams call a holocaust survivor a slave owner for daring to point her finger at him.

Oh Google Chicago's young scholars destroy a 7-11, that's a fresh one.

Or you could Google Oakland town hall meetings.

Are you just being facetious or do you not know how the internet works? You don't need fox news to tell you how well these cities are doing. Also you don't need to visit them either. I can tell you about Pheonix though, I first visited phoenix 8 years ago and I loved the city it was so beautiful. Then the lock down happened, and my next visit nearly brought me to tears. The whole area surrounding downtown area is now a shanty town. It looks like a third world country with tents and make shift huts. This is America, we're not supposed to be living like this. And democrats just want it to get worse, so they can stay in power. It's f'n
Munchausen by proxy. Eat this poison so I can make you better.

[Cowabung-Gal]

You're not "seeing a lot" (which is how you spell that word, btw) of anything in those cities. In the past two years, I've been to New York and Chicago.

But you don’t actually live in either of those places, do you? In all honestly, would you move there? Probably not. Even New Yorkers hate New York City, especially now. People are moving into rural areas in droves because of the ridiculous high cost of living, violent atmosphere, and totalitarian blue policies that they have to endure in the city.

(And, to be perfectly clear: even if you *don't* actually watch Fox "News," guess what? Whatever "news" source you're digesting probably... gets... their... information... from... Fox... "News").

So what’s your beacon of truth? CNN? MSNBC? BuzzFeed? The Mary Sue?

So, yeah. Please tell everyone which of those cities you've been to.

Well, neither, but years ago my family traveled to Washington D.C for vacation and we decided to ride in the Metro. It was jam-packed in the train and some homeless idiot tried to bring his bike in with him, even though there was a sign that clearly said “No Bikes Allowed”. Nobody would move to let him in, nor would they say anything to him. Finally my Southern Dad who never took bs from anybody told him that what he was doing was wrong, and he was the only one in the whole crowd who spoke up. Finally the guy managed to squeeze in with his bike and during the whole ride he yelled incoherently in my Dad’s face. I remember him saying that he spent the night in the train. That was my first taste of city life.

My point? In the city, you’re either a compliant, silent sheep or a you’re a lawless thug, and if you do have a noble bone in your body and decide to be the hero, you get punished for it. That’s why people will just stand by and watch as someone gets r*ped in the subway rather than help them, and why they’ll let thieves just walk out of a store with the stolen items in their hands. The shoplifting situation in Chicago is so bad that if you need to buy a small jar of Vaseline at Walgreens, it’s locked up behind glass and you need an employee to come open it with a key. Where I live, we only do that for valuable vintage items at flea markets.

But isn't it weird, just isn't it odd, how all the cities always cited by these "news" stories have predominately non-white people in them?

Um, the largest ethnic groups in both Chicago and New York are white.

I'd sure be interested in reading about more things you're "seeing allot" of, though. Maybe next time you could cite a source, like I did? It'll make you a hair more credible. Which shouldn't be hard.

Because right now, you're not credible at all.

You cited NBC. That discredits you already

[robertfiduciary]

And you cited... nothing. I mean, you cited anecdotal experience, which does not make up any other person's reality than your own.

Not a single quote. Not a single article link. So weird! I wonder why that is.

And I actually went to NYU for a year. I love New York City, and would move back there in a heartbeat (if I still had the money).

I love Chicago, too. Todd and I have talked about moving there often. The food! The culture! The comedy clubs! It's a beautiful place.

And both my siblings live in Washington D.C. It's lovely, too. I've spent more than my fair share of time on the Metro (Shout-out, Orange Line!). Did you know, long ago, that the Metro used to be so clean that they used it's tunnels for shots in movies when people go to heaven?

You folks remind me of one of my favorite quotes. It's from Sophocles, of all people.

"To him who is in fear, everything rustles."

So, yeah. Keep believing whatever you believe. I try to be kind to the world, and, for the most part, the world has been incredibly kind to me. Maybe there's a lesson there. Maybe not.

You cited NBC. That discredits you already.

[Cowabung-Gal]

And you cited... nothing. I mean, you cited anecdotal experience, which does not make up any other person's reality than your own.

Not a single quote. Not a single article link. So weird! I wonder why that is.

Doesn’t matter what article I could show you. You’ve already made up your mind that I’m a Faux Newz viewer because I don’t buy into NBC’s propagandist crap:


(And, to be perfectly clear: even if you *don't* actually watch Fox "News," guess what? Whatever "news" source you're digesting probably... gets... their... information... from... Fox... "News"


And I actually went to NYU for a year. I love New York City, and would move back there in a heartbeat (if I still had the money).

But you can’t afford to go back, can you? Thanks to Bidenflation.

I love Chicago, too. Todd and I have talked about moving there often. The food! The culture! The comedy clubs! It's a beautiful place.

Beautiful but deadly. Hope you don’t plan to have a family there.

And both my siblings live in Washington D.C. It's lovely, too. I've spent more than my fair share of time on the Metro (Shout-out, Orange Line!). Did you know, long ago, that the Metro used to be so clean that they used it's tunnels for shots in movies when people go to heaven?

Yeah…like fifty years ago. Now though? You have dirty hobos screaming like demons in your face.

You folks remind me of one of my favorite quotes. It's from Sophocles, of all people.

"To him who is in fear, everything rustles.".

You like quotes, huh? Well here’s one, from Plato.

“Ignorance, the root and stem of every evil”

[Dpooly84]

Lol I can't help but notice you didn't respond to my facts. I don't need to post a link a simple Google search will prove me correct. I can also confirm the state of D.C. because my brother works at the Pentagon, my black brother BTW, is disgusted by the state of the capital.

*edit* well said Gal

[Cowabung-Gal]

I can also confirm the state of D.C. because my brother works at the Pentagon, my black brother BTW, is disgusted by the state of the capital.

Your brother works at the Pentagon? His salary must be crazy high.

[Dpooly84]

Your brother works at the Pentagon? His salary must be crazy high.

He's in the Army so I'm not sure, but he and his family do crazy vacations lol. He is super lucky he got himself stationed in Key West and Germany in the past. His kids have gotten to experience so much that we never could have dreamed of at thier ages.

[Dpooly84]

I love Chicago, too. Todd and I have talked about moving there often. The food! The culture! The comedy clubs! It's a beautiful place.

Brother if you honestly wanna move to Illinois I would highly suggest a city/town 30 to 40 mins away from Chicago. The housing will be cheaper and you and your husband won't have to deal with as much hostility.

*edit* Chicago has excellent comedy clubs

[IMJ]

Brother if you honestly wanna move to Illinois I would highly suggest a city/town 30 to 40 mins away from Chicago. The housing will be cheaper and you and your husband won't have to deal with as much hostility.

*edit* Chicago has excellent comedy clubs

We were actually just at Zanies on North Wells a few weeks back. It reminded me of Mother Hubbard's on Wacker - a place where they crammed an extra building into what used to be an alley in between two other buildings. Classic Chicago-style right there.

But to your other point there, yeah I agree completely. Chicago is so well connected by highways that you could live as far out as Aurora and getting to the city via 88 is really no big deal.

[Bahamut810]

Oi. The dumbest people.

Anyway, here's a real interesting article which discusses how the majority of gun deaths actually take place in rural areas. NOT cities.

/https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/map-gun-death-rates-lower-cities-than-rural-counties-rcna81462 (https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/map-gun-death-rates-lower-cities-than-rural-counties-rcna81462)


I dont think this says what you are wanting it to say. Go read it. Everyone else is talking about gun violence and crime. You cite this that says there is more 'gun violence" because of suicides which Rural america always has had more of. Considering the conditions of the pandemic and all that I can see why considering how widespread rural america can be. Interesting quote:

"From 2011 to 2020, the most rural counties had a 46% lower rate of gun homicide deaths than the most urban counties but a 76% higher rate of gun suicide deaths, according to Reeping’s analysis."

Can you cite a source that supports your view that has something to do with your claim?

[Mayhem]

The largest demographic of gun death in the US has always been suicide, unsurprisingly.

[Andrew NDB]

The largest demographic of gun death in the US has always been suicide, unsurprisingly.

Maybe true, and they always make sure and remove any kind of gang related stuff from these figures.

[Sumac]

Oi. The dumbest people.
What a way to start a conversation.

Shows off your intelligence and manners and upbringing. Also, proves that lefties are cultish parasites, hating on anyone who doesn't worship them.

So, yeah. Keep believing whatever you believe. I try to be kind to the world, and, for the most part, the world has been incredibly kind to me. Maybe there's a lesson there. Maybe not.
You are not kind, if you behave this way.
You are arrogant and stupid.
Your whole posturing just tells that you are the one in fear. Otherwise there won't be necessity to scream and insult people who did nothing to you, but I guess you are such a stable unafraid person, that it is your sacred duty to show it to everyone. :lol:



I dont think this says what you are wanting it to say.
It is so typical of lefties - put an article as prove of their words, which in reality has nothing to do with anything. They brains are not developed enough to understand past the title.

[Barkworm]

You cited NBC. That discredits you already

Yes, instead cite the Youtube videos Cowabung-Gal watches all day, they seem to be the absolute height of journalism.

[Mayhem]

Maybe true, and they always make sure and remove any kind of gang related stuff from these figures.
Not in the figures I've seen online, such as the FBI website. What is perhaps not that surprising is that nearly half of all murders are comitted by someone known to the victim.

[Dpooly84]

Yes, instead cite the Youtube videos Cowabung-Gal watches all day, they seem to be the absolute height of journalism.

You can find live action town halls on YouTube you'll never find anything on a nbc/cbs/CNN or any other "news" channel that's not opinionated, trying to tell you what you're seeing.

The funniest lie ever told... mostly peaceful protests!

[Cowabung-Gal]

Chicago is considering government-run grocery stores due to the theft problem causing many stores to close down

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[IMJ]

Brandon Johnson. :lol:

[Sumac]

Welcome to promised paradise of socialism.
I hope you like long rows of people and deficit.

No matter how commie trash will try to tell its all, because, of "capitalism".

[IMJ]

I've seen people here throw the word "echochamber" around on these forums like it was their best GRE word of the month. But Chicago is a true "echochamber". It's become a hub for the perception-of-life narrative by some residents, even to the point where these people make every excuse for the very behavior that got them there in the first place.

[Coola Yagami]

Being born and semi-raised in Chicago (most of my more formative years were in Mexico), I am glad that I not only moved out of there, but when it came time to return to the US, I had other options and didn't just go back.

My god that place is a hellhole.

[Mayhem]

Being born and semi-raised in Chicago (most of my more formative years were in Mexico), I am glad that I not only moved out of there, but when it came time to return to the US, I had other options and didn't just go back.

My god that place is a hellhole.
From the people I know who live in and around Chicago, it really depends where, but yeah some places are horrendous. Spent a fair bit of time on the outskirts myself.

[Andrew NDB]

I've been there one time, for a convention around 2017 where I stayed at Frank Fosco's house. The same trip I met Patrick Stewart. Frank lived a bit out of Chicago, but the convention was in Chicago. And definitely Frank Fosco is not of the mindset at all of what has been alluded to be espoused by the masses.

Not in the figures I've seen online, such as the FBI website. What is perhaps not that surprising is that nearly half of all murders are comitted by someone known to the victim.

Ah, I have to correct myself! What I meant to say was, yes, they DO use gang shootings in the numbers, but to conflate things about "mass shootings." Which are useful numbers to wave around every time there is a new school shooting or something. As in, the twelve drive by gang shootings last week in Detroit are exactly the same as someone gunning down gay people in a club because those are more "mass shootings" we can point to in wanting more legislation.

[Mayhem]

As in, the twelve drive by gang shootings last week in Detroit are exactly the same as someone gunning down gay people in a club because those are more "mass shootings" we can point to in wanting more legislation.
So at least four people died in each shooting in Detroit?

(this is the accepted definition used by the Department of Justice)

[TurtleManiac]

Things are getting bad in retail stores here in California because of the leftist soft on crime ideology. Walked into a Target store the other day to buy a few things, and everything is locked up, have to press a button to call a store attendant to get something out of the shelf. The poor girl working the beauty/cosmetics aisle couldn’t catch a break. It’s cause criminals are now allowed to just grab stuff and walk away with it un-checked, and security isn’t allowed to stop them or else they face legal consequences for trying to stop the criminals. Businesses are fleeing. It was never this bad until the last couple years. Make California Great Again!

[Mayhem]

Things are getting bad in retail stores here in California because of the leftist soft on crime ideology. Walked into a Target store the other day to buy a few things, and everything is locked up, have to press a button to call a store attendant to get something out of the shelf. The poor girl working the beauty/cosmetics aisle couldn’t catch a break. It’s cause criminals are now allowed to just grab stuff and walk away with it un-checked, and security isn’t allowed to stop them or else they face legal consequences for trying to stop the criminals. Businesses are fleeing. It was never this bad until the last couple years. Make California Great Again!
It isn't just California having that problem, other states as well. And here, because of the cutbacks to funding and the cost of living crisis making prices go up, people are shoplifting more, and unless they steal over £100, the police aren't as interested. People are generally nicking meat and cigarettes to resell, and it's all under the threshold, so no one usually turns up to investigate. And small shop owners are really starting to get pissed off, and their insurance companies I would imagine.

[Andrew NDB]

It isn't just California having that problem, other states as well. And here, because of the cutbacks to funding and the cost of living crisis making prices go up, people are shoplifting more, and unless they steal over £100, the police aren't as interested. People are generally nicking meat and cigarettes to resell, and it's all under the threshold, so no one usually turns up to investigate. And small shop owners are really starting to get pissed off, and their insurance companies I would imagine.

I would imagine it is like here, where it isn't that "the police" aren't interested to investigate as it is a blanket policy not to. Since our blue states are not so slowly following your glowing model.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Sylvester Stallone is supposedly leaving California and moving to Florida. :lol:

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[Andrew NDB]

Sylvester Stallone is supposedly leaving California and moving to Florida. :lol:

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I thought he already did that? "The Stallones" showed him moving.

[ResidentEvil7]

I live outside Chicago in northern Cook County and I'm afraid of going back to the city because of all the violence you see on local news like ABC 7 and FOX 32 Chicago News. There's shootings, carjackings, theft, fights and so on.

It's unfortunate, because I wish I could go back to visit Chinatown and experience Asian culture, the restaurants and shops. Yet, it's not like I don't have Asian culture where I live; we have Japanese restaurants and grocery stores and Thai, Korean and Chinese restaurants and shops here. So it's not like I need to go to the city of Chicago anytime soon.

[IMJ]

I live outside Chicago in northern Cook County and I'm afraid of going back to the city because of all the violence you see on local news like ABC 7 and FOX 32 Chicago News. There's shootings, carjackings, theft, fights and so on.

It's unfortunate, because I wish I could go back to visit Chinatown and experience Asian culture, the restaurants and shops. Yet, it's not like I don't have Asian culture where I live; we have Japanese restaurants and grocery stores and Thai, Korean and Chinese restaurants and shops here. So it's not like I need to go to the city of Chicago anytime soon.

It's really like that now too.... it's just not worth going to the city for anything anymore.

[Hamato Yoshi]

theres been few incidents smash/grab in Norway (cel phones). But its not bananas like CA or something.

more murders than usual jan/feb , family tragedies.....but it evens out & Norway still a safe country.

[Cowabung-Gal]

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Just saying, if you sucker punch a woman or a child in my town, you’d be fortunate if the cops got to you before the citizens did.

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[ResidentEvil7]

I saw that segment on Inside Edition on ABC 7 Chicago yesterday. I may not like children enough to not want any of my own, but even I can say that a little girl doesn't deserve to be attacked for no reason by some migrant criminal.

Luckily, if it had happened where I live, there's a police department around the corner from me.

[TurtleManiac]

Cops can’t really do anything now, after the “George Floyd Justice In Policing Act” was passed in 2021. Seen some videos the last few days of Pro Palestine mobs blocking highways and bridges, and the cops just standing there protecting the mob.

The guy that was choked out on the NY Subway last year, Jordan Neely, was sucker punching women on the streets there’s videos, nobody does anything about it, until Daniel Penny choked him out on the Subway and now they’re trying to put him in jail for protecting potential victims on the Subway. It’s like you can’t even defend yourself without harsh consequences from liberal lawmakers, and criminals just get catch and release.

[Cowabung-Gal]

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Oh, NOW they condemn flag burning? But it’s okay if BLM or a bunch of angry leftists do it, right? :roll:

As one wise person once put it, that’s not freedom; that’s treason.

And by the way, those protestors in that video are definitely living up to their stereotype, even ululating while setting the American flag on fire.

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[Andrew NDB]

The idea of people staying here on student visas or really any kind of visas... coming here and burning our flag... that we don't IMMEDIATELY evict them from the country? Flabbergasting.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

The idea of people staying here on student visas or really any kind of visas... coming here and burning our flag... that we don't IMMEDIATELY evict them from the country? Flabbergasting.

Agreed. I think a harsher punishment than eviction is necessary.

I do not like Israel at all, but I would never burn my own country's flag at all because of it.

[Bahamut810]

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Oh, NOW they condemn flag burning? But it’s okay if BLM or a bunch of angry leftists do it, right? :roll:

As one wise person once put it, that’s not freedom; that’s treason.

And by the way, those protestors in that video are definitely living up to their stereotype, even ululating while setting the American flag on fire.

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That attorney is a thief. I get taking pride in your country, and not being good with burning the American flag...but he stole someone's property just because he didn't like their speech.

[Cowabung-Gal]

That attorney is a thief. I get taking pride in your country, and not being good with burning the American flag...but he stole someone's property just because he didn't like their speech.

What if it was a Pride flag? Or a BLM flag? Would you call the person attempting to save the flag a thief too?

Besides, to those protestors, that flag was nothing but expendable garbage, and it’s not illegal to take someone else’s garbage.

[Bahamut810]

What if it was a Pride flag? Or a BLM flag? Would you call the person attempting to save the flag a thief too?

Besides, to those protestors, that flag was nothing but expendable garbage, and it’s not illegal to take someone else’s garbage.

Yes that is their property that they were using. If someone is flying/burning a pride flag and you steal it you are a thief.

It was not garbage at that time. They were using it for the purpose they intended. That's like saying you can steal firewood after its been lit because they were burning it.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Yes that is their property that they were using. If someone is flying/burning a pride flag and you steal it you are a thief.

It was not garbage at that time. They were using it for the purpose they intended. That's like saying you can steal firewood after its been lit because they were burning it.

So someone who takes a Pride flag from protestors that wanted to burn it should be jailed. You really think a judge is gonna agree with you on that one, especially since burning a Pride flag is considered to be hate speech?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Yes that is their property that they were using. If someone is flying/burning a pride flag and you steal it you are a thief.

It was not garbage at that time. They were using it for the purpose they intended. That's like saying you can steal firewood after its been lit because they were burning it.

The pride flag is garbage tho.

[Bahamut810]

So someone who takes a Pride flag from protestors that wanted to burn it should be jailed. You really think a judge is gonna agree with you on that one, especially since burning a Pride flag is considered to be hate speech?

A judge will consider it just like any other theft. "Hate speech" is not illegal nor should it be.

[IMJ]

The pride flag is garbage tho.

It is garbage, but not because people shouldn't be "gay" but rather because it's another sign of overwhelming arrogance and self-importance that leftists need to project from their meandering lives. Another pathetic division from the weak-kneed clowns of "liberal conflict culture" who only get by because the rest of normal operating society let's them rant like children knowing that their lives are a little bit rougher from the all of the internal psychology. Archeytpes of almost all of the modern-liberal.

But with that said, garbage or not, no one should be damaging or taking anyone else's property, agreed with or otherwise. Although, ironically it's commonly the leftist nut bugging up who does things like that.

[Mayhem]

You do realise there are right wing gays and lesbians too, huh?

[Bahamut810]

You do realise there are right wing gays and lesbians too, huh?

Yes, I have seen a few online and none of them have pride flags hanging up in the background. Not saying they don't exist, but I don't recall ever seeing them. Even the LGBT people I know in real life, if they are moderate or right wing they don't have flags up...possibly a rainbow keychain or something but not big flags I know about.

[ResidentEvil7]

I'm a gay right-wing Republican and I don't like the rainbow flag, because it looks too babyish of color patterns. I'm a major Trump supporter. So no, not all gays are left wing looney tunes.

No I'm not the kind of gay Republican that wears pink tutus or dresses and acts like a fruit loop. I'm still a masculine kind of guy who likes young men from ages 18 - 45, muscular, no chest or back hair, and no tattoos and no colored hair. I like sexy wrestlers who wear the colorful briefs.

[Cowabung-Gal]

You do realise there are right wing gays and lesbians too, huh?

(GASP!) No! Really?! There are?! :o

:lol:

No duh. But even though they came out of the closet, conservative gays have to go hide in another one because revealing that you’re right-wing can have serious consequences.

[Bahamut810]

I'm a gay right-wing Republican and I don't like the rainbow flag, because it looks too babyish of color patterns. I'm a major Trump supporter. So no, not all gays are left wing looney tunes.

No I'm not the kind of gay Republican that wears pink tutus or dresses and acts like a fruit loop. I'm still a masculine kind of guy who likes young men from ages 18 - 45, muscular, no chest or back hair, and no tattoos and no colored hair. I like sexy wrestlers who wear the colorful briefs.

Bears everywhere weep :lol:

[tmntpower1988]

Last time there was a gay pride event in my hometown when I was walking through the crowd one of the guys who had a gay pride flag starts waving the flag in my face in a aggressive sort of way. Did he think I was a homophobe or something? He was a middle-aged guy. Any time I see the pride flag I always think of that moment.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Last time there was a gay pride event in my hometown when I was walking through the crowd one of the guys who had a gay pride flag starts waving the flag in my face in a aggressive sort of way. Did he think I was a homophobe or something? He was a middle-aged guy. Any time I see the pride flag I always think of that moment.

Maybe he was just trying to get you to recognize his existence. At least it was his flag instead of his pole.

[tmntpower1988]

Maybe he was just trying to get you to recognize his existence. At least it was his flag instead of his pole.

You're right. :lol::lol::lol: There was one time some gay guy tried to kiss me in a bar but I moved my head out of the way, he didn't take too well to it then he gave me a girly shove and twisted my nipple. :lol::lol::lol:

[Cowabung-Gal]

https://x.com/SFJCRC/status/1851668935533564238

Aw, NAW, dude. If that creep ever made kissy faces at me like that, I’d sue him for sexual harassment. :x

See, granola boys like him are like “Defund Da Police” and then they call the cops to take care of people they don’t like.

2YKMfhH0ygU

These people….
“It’s nothing against Jewish people, I love Jewish people” SHUT UP.

[Andrew NDB]

How come it's only ever the democrats misbehaving on the house floors?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scoop-dems-who-derailed-al-green-censure-could-stripped-house-committee-roles

[sdp]

someone's 'Tism had this thread which is against the rules politics talk in the forum.

[Andrew NDB]

someone's 'Tism had this thread which is against the rules politics talk in the forum.

What? The literal last post you made here was about politics. Or is this all some kind of nascent return to pretending to be a "proud black woman" (your words on this forum) again, perhaps out of boredom? Now, we all haven't forgotten when sdp was doing that for a couple of months, right? That was an actual thing, and there were actual posters afraid to respond for some kind of fear that maybe sdp wasn't kidding.

[sdp]

I'm sorry my profile picture triggered you because I'm into big beautiful black women. Mutant Mayhem finally saw there are fans of larger set black women so I was thankful for finally my type of women being represented. I'm a proud white straight man.

I don't want you to break more rules. I want law and order in this forum.

[IMJ]

I'm sorry my profile picture triggered you because I'm into big beautiful black women. Mutant Mayhem finally saw there are fans of larger set black women so I was thankful for finally my type of women being represented. I'm a proud white straight man.

I don't want you to break more rules. I want law and order in this forum.

You're a Russian provocateur and literally (as in YOU put it in writing) titled yourself as an "online troll". You aren't even remotely into big, beautiful black women. And on that note you didn't say you were 'into' them, but instead had a graphic posted here for a year saying that you ARE one.

[member_removed]

How come it's only ever the democrats misbehaving on the house floors?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scoop-dems-who-derailed-al-green-censure-could-stripped-house-committee-roles


Yep, ok. I'll just leave this here.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/gop-reps-greene-boebert-heckle-biden-throughout-sotu-address-n1290558

[Andrew NDB]

Yep, ok. I'll just leave this here.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/gop-reps-greene-boebert-heckle-biden-throughout-sotu-address-n1290558

OK, fair enough. But I'm mostly talking about this consistent level of... "rehearsed disobedience" largely in concert.

[Cowabung-Gal]

This came out in 2008.

B_hyT7_Bx9o

“They’ll teach kids about…” Annnnnnnd look where we are now.

[Andrew NDB]

wtf is this...

https://komonews.com/news/local/mayor-bruce-harrell-democracy-voucher-seattle-city-hall-first-in-the-nation-program-inclusive-political-process-registered-vouchers-diverse-candidates-waldon-grassroot-organization#

[Mayhem]

A way to get candidates running who aren’t millionaires.

[Andrew NDB]

A way to get candidates running who aren’t millionaires.

Nothing is stopping them from running. This just seems like a special brand of evil. Basically a bright blue state's naturally blue voters votes to tax itself -- tax everyone in the state -- to give everyone in the state money vouchers to give to candidates. How is that anything but a money laundering scheme for the left?

[Mayhem]

And you think anyone has a chance to win without millions to advertise in the media?

[member_removed]

A way to get candidates running who aren’t millionaires.

I think it's a stupid idea.

However there is nothing to stop citizens using their vouchers on conservative politicians. That's a conservative issue, why aren't their policies registering with the local electorate and what can they to do improve voter engagement.

Personally, I think campaign budgets need to be capped.

https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presidential-race/donald-trump/candidate?id=N00023864

https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presidential-race/kamala-harris/candidate?id=N00036915

Over $3billion on both parties. Don't tell us there if no money left. How many cartons of eggs is that. I don't need DOGE to tell this is ****.

[Mayhem]

You know things aren't going particularly great when even Fox News is having a pop at you...

Fox News henchman Peter Doocy brutally confronts Donald Trump to his face for destroying the economy with his disastrous tariffs — while Elon Musk lurks in shame nearby.

What was supposed to be a Tesla sales pitch quickly devolved into a humiliating mess...

"President Trump, you're buying a new car while there are some folks who will see this clip at home and they are struggling with their retirement accounts down at the moment, uncertainty about work ahead..." said Doocy.

"Well, I think they're gonna do great. I think we're, uh, our country had to do this. We had to go and do this," said Trump. "They've taken away... Other countries have taken away our business. They've taken away our jobs."

"Uh, I did it, uh, initially very strongly against — as you know China and some others in the first term — and it was a very successful term," continued Trump. "We had no inflation."

"We had the greatest economy in the history of our country and then we had COVID which we had to straighten out," said Trump, conveniently eliding the fact that he botched the pandemic response.

The confrontation came during a PR event at the White House during which Trump touted his decision to buy a Tesla, a pathetic and transparent effort to boost the plummeting stock of his oligarch puppetmaster's flagship company.
Elon Musk himself was present for the proceedings, wearing the trademark sunglasses that many have speculated are meant to hide his alleged ketamine abuse.

At another point during the tacky car salesman routine, Trump was confronted by a different reporter—

"Mr. President you mentioned the ups and downs in the stock market. You said it'll go up, it'll go down but do you and your tariff policies right now bear any responsibility for the turmoil we're seeing this week?" asked a reporter.

"No, I think that uh... Biden gave us a horrible economy," lied Trump. "He gave us horrible inflation and I think the, uh, market was gonna go very, very bad."
The truth, of course, is that we are hurtling towards a recession because Trump decided to hit Canada and Mexico with punishing tariffs for no discernible reason beyond exciting his xenophobic base.

"Uh, if anything I have a lot of very smart people, friends of mine, and great businessman, they're now investing because of what I'm doing," Trump claimed. "Because long term what I'm doing is making our country strong again."

"Financially strong. Militarily strong," he continued. "And strong — and we want to get away — remember this, we have wars — when I left we had no wars. We didn't have Ukraine and Russia. We didn't have October 7th. We didn't have that disaster that took place with the withdrawal from Afghanistan and you look at what's happened there."

Outside of the lie-riddled and inane remarks Trump spewed, the event itself was an utter disgrace. Using the White House to sell cars for a billionaire crony is a new low for the American presidency.



Personally, I think campaign budgets need to be capped.
They are here. Do you know what the cap is here? £54k per seat you are contesting in the election, so realistically, you are looking at a maximum of about £30M (or around $38M) TOTAL for the campaign.

Now granted the US has about five times the population, so let's scale that up to say $200M total. Do you think it could be run in the US on that?

[member_removed]

They are here. Do you know what the cap is here? £54k per seat you are contesting in the election, so realistically, you are looking at a maximum of about £30M (or around $38M) TOTAL for the campaign.

Now granted the US has about five times the population, so let's scale that up to say $200M total. Do you think it could be run in the US on that?

I'm not sure what the rules here in Australia, but we just had a state election in Western Australia on Saturday.

I can still the campaign sign on the Highways and banners cable tied to fences at polling places. Absolute waste of money and resources.

[IndigoErth]

The confrontation came during a PR event at the White House during which Trump touted his decision to buy a Tesla, a pathetic and transparent effort to boost the plummeting stock of his oligarch puppetmaster's flagship company.
The man doesn't even drive (and wouldn't be allowed to right now anyhow), who was supposed to believe this stunt? If it wasn't Musk and his brand and it was just an attempt to encourage the Right to accept EVs better, fine, but it's just an attempt to prop up Musk, who in turn wants to give Trump organizations some millions. Isn't that a conflict of interest?

[Mayhem]

And considering a lot of Trump’s policies are anti EV, where’s the point?

[IndigoErth]

Yeah, was wondering about that. Are his supporters who reject EVs going to flip on how they feel about them now...or just feel confused about what to think? lol

[IMJ]

You remaining lefties are so cliche. Most centered and right policies don't have a problem with "EVs" on the market. The dissention is the right being pro Capitalism whereas the left always wants to outlaw things for "progress".

You stunted f's.

[Mayhem]

I don’t have an issue with EVs. The other half owned a hybrid as her previous car. Some of the plans however, at least here, are way too ambitious for the timelines proposed.

But my point was Trump doesn’t appear to like EVs. So you disagree that the points made for example in this article are not conflicting by promoting the suicide trucks flogged by his new pal?

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/12/nx-s1-5310006/trump-government-electric-vehicles-gsa-ev

[Mayhem]

If this is happening, this isn’t a good thing, right?


https://i.imgur.com/Yr7dg0y.jpeg

[IndigoErth]

Definitely seeing articles about it and appears it's not the only college being hit with big cuts to funding that would have gone into medical research. Columbia University appears slapped with it because of student protests? (Even if the stance of those involved students isn't agreed with, why deprive the college itself of important funding?) Sounds like Havard and others announced a hiring freeze to due to uncertainty of the funding.

[Mayhem]

Might also be due to this.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGeJLwVyfkR/?igsh=czF2NWN1cTJ1azRt

Essentially if you are doing any research that isn’t also applicable to white males, it’s going to be rejected.

[Andrew NDB]

Colleges gotta learn.

[Mayhem]

Colleges gotta learn.
So, no research into female only or predominantly female issues such as ovarian and breast cancer? Sickle cell treatments for people of African descent? Also as the instagram video notes (which shows you probably didn't watch it), some of the words and language that is now banned is present in almost ALL papers regardless of targets or subjects. So effectively blocks any paper that even mentions "bias" even if it references "white" or "male". It's the fact that even the words "female" or "women" are banned makes it a pure misogynistic hate roster.

[Mayhem]

But of course, deflection from what you actually are, standard playbook when in power. Another GOPedo found…


https://i.imgur.com/3QWkovc.jpeg

[IndigoErth]

Bad enough that there had been some openly anti-gay lawmakers in the past who then got caught being a hypocrite (can't even remember now who it was that was caught in a men's restroom with another guy), but at least in those cases it was (hopefully) between consenting adults.

But this?? Wow, wtf. Why am I not surprised though... Too often seems like the loudest ones end up guilty. If they make an unusually loud show of objection then no one will suspect them, huh?

[Mayhem]

$4T lost.

https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/us-stock-market-crash-wipes-out-4-trillion-donald-trump-global-impact-explained-13870538.html

I checked my pension funds and they were down to what they were worth in September. So six months of gains wiped in a couple of weeks.

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

$4T lost.

https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/us-stock-market-crash-wipes-out-4-trillion-donald-trump-global-impact-explained-13870538.html

I checked my pension funds and they were down to what they were worth in September. So six months of gains wiped in a couple of weeks.

A small price to pay to make sure trannies can't play basketball.

[Andrew NDB]

But of course, deflection from what you actually are, standard playbook when in power. Another GOPedo found…


https://i.imgur.com/3QWkovc.jpeg

Do we really want to open the scorecard as to how many lefties have gotten outed as pedos/criminal weirdos vs. people on the right over the past few decades? Because you guys generally own the board on that, with one hand tied behind your back.

[sdp]

Ironic trying to claim the moral high ground coming from the member that made a thread posting creepy videos of girls, some less than 18 in a thread not too long ago https://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=64887
Do we really want to open the scorecard as to how many lefties have gotten outed as pedos/criminal weirdos vs. people on the right over the past few decades? Because you guys generally own the board on that, with one hand tied behind your back.

[Mayhem]

https://i.imgur.com/Fc2wBQY.jpeg

[Andrew NDB]

Ironic trying to claim the moral high ground coming from the member that made a thread posting creepy videos of girls, some less than 18 in a thread not too long ago https://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=64887

Which ones were less than 18? Of these fully clothed gymnists on public Youtube videos that I shared? Any names?

[IndigoErth]

I am quite sure that was the second thread of that topic and the first was removed.

'Cuz see...the first time you went about posting up a bunch of them I did some searching, comparing the dates of the videos or the competitions (if it was evident somewhere in a video what year it was) alongside looking up the actual birthdates of the athletes, and some of them were absolutely underage at the time of the videos.

I DID point them out in the first thread. I didn't bother with the second thread, because why waste time if people choose to be blind. I guess "think of the children" doesn't matter when it is someone else's daughter, not your own.

You are perfectly capable of doing the same kind of date and birthdate comparisons yourself if you really care to find out if you're in the clear.

Fully clothed or not, it's no mystery why they got posted. As the me of a few years ago put it... it's "Hardcore porn for Amish people." Or softer stuff for people who want to not feel like perves. But why the need to share it?



Edit: And I won't sit here and act like I'm not guilty of noticing male athletes from the summer Olympics, and who knows how old some of them may be. But a passing notice of athletes who are prime specimens of the species is one thing (and I don't fault male viewers doing the same)... going about posting strings of videos for full-on ogling purposes is another.

Not trying to call out, I mean that thread is old news, but considering I DID look some of the ages up once before, well you asked. (Unfortunately, I'm not some weirdo who keeps record of that to show you again.)

[member_removed]

Do we really want to open the scorecard as to how many lefties have gotten outed as pedos/criminal weirdos vs. people on the right over the past few decades? Because you guys generally own the board on that, with one hand tied behind your back.

Yeah, let's just quietly sweep that **** under the rug.

By all means, tell us, any dirty Kiddy fiddling POS needs to be outed and shamed. Despite their political leanings. Get Chris Hansen out there now. Release those Epstein logs.

[Mayhem]

Release those Epstein logs.
It’s all a smokescreen distraction (the news on releasing the JFK files has gone quiet again too) and will never happen because Trump’s name is all over them too.

[Andrew NDB]

I am quite sure that was the second thread of that topic and the first was removed.

The first thread was removed because a lefty posted something heinous (porn or something nude, I think?) and got themselves banned and the thread banished as a result. Try again.

[Mayhem]

The body of the kid who tried to “kill” Trump mysteriously vanished…

https://www.newsweek.com/thomas-matthew-crooks-body-gone-donald-trump-shooting-clay-higgins-investigation-1940195

If this was MAGA they’d be screaming cover up and the shooting attempt was staged… oh wait, actually, I’ve seen quite a few people claim this was too because Trump’s ear looked fine days after the incident.

[Andrew NDB]

The body of the kid who tried to “kill” Trump mysteriously vanished…

https://www.newsweek.com/thomas-matthew-crooks-body-gone-donald-trump-shooting-clay-higgins-investigation-1940195

If this was MAGA they’d be screaming cover up

I mean... maybe not "Screaming" (that's your thing), but... eh, maybe? There is some SUPER weird stuff with that dude. And apparently they still say they can't look into his phones -- plural?

[IndigoErth]

Really I'm not sure what he thinks examining the body and reports would provide anyhow. Did he want to see if there are any incriminating tattoos? Hold the kid's brain in his hands and see if it looked normal? Make sure he wasn't really an android or space lizard in disguise? Pretty sure phone(s) and other devices, not to mention talking to people that knew him, would probably be more informative of a wacko?


The body of the kid who tried to “kill” Trump mysteriously vanished…
Wasn't that long ago you could have probably convinced some people that he resurrected.



Edit: Odd looking guy and looking at a side shot, he's got a bit of that "Habsburg jaw" thing going on. Maybe he was kinda inbred. That could certainly make mental issues more likely.

[member_removed]

Someone check JD's signal chats for a clue!

[Mayhem]

Wasn't that long ago you could have probably convinced some people that he resurrected.
The obvious conspiracy, which I'm not going down the path anyhow, is that Trump's shooting was staged, it was a blood capsule on his ear, and the shooter wasn't actually killed, which is why the secret service reacted so slow to people trying to inform them about him. Collateral damage was a justifiable outcome.

[Andrew NDB]

"The right"'s conspiracy theory about it makes more sense. That basically the kid was taken as an asset by... somebody (probably the same people running the presidency while Biden stared at a wall for 4 years)... and MK-Ultraed or something like that into killing Trump.

I'm not saying I believe that, but it's really shocking how little we know about the would-be assassin even a year later now.

[Autbot_Benz]

More Trump Tarrifs today.he is adding reciprocal tarrifs on top of the already placed tarrifs



https://i.imgur.com/QfxvMfV.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/xYpGVqD.jpeg

[FredWolfLeonardo]

To find out why Thomas Matthew Crooks tried to kill Trump, you have to look into who would benefit the most from having Trump killed.

Really think about it, which entity would benefit most from the Trump being dead and being replaced by a Warmongering Neo-Con who wants to go into the Middle East?

[member_removed]

To find out why Thomas Matthew Crooks tried to kill Trump, you have to look into who would benefit the most from having Trump killed.

Really think about it, which entity would benefit most from the Trump being dead and being replaced by a Warmongering Neo-Con who wants to go into the Middle East?

Bush era republicans?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Bush era republicans?

Them too, but the biggest beneficiary of all is Israel, bar none.

Trump in 2024 was notorious for insisting that Israel has to stop killing people in Gaza and that they are the ones responsible for keeping the war going. This made him a liability in their eyes.

Israel had everything to gain with having Trump killed and then pinning it on Iran. Unlike Trump, a replacement such as Nikki Haley would've escalated the war much more than our current time.

[Andrew NDB]

Them too, but the biggest beneficiary of all is Israel, bar none.

Trump in 2024 was notorious for insisting that Israel has to stop killing people in Gaza and that they are the ones responsible for keeping the war going. This made him a liability in their eyes.

Israel had everything to gain with having Trump killed and then pinning it on Iran. Unlike Trump, a replacement such as Nikki Haley would've escalated the war much more than our current time.

Nonsense. Israel's best hope in the world was getting Trump back into office so that they could get away from Biden soft-walking military aid to them -- and Trump was clear he would give them whatever they needed. And he has.

Trump represents a very huge threat to "the machine," that was started with Biden as a puppet president and would have surely continued with Harris as a puppet president. Whether this threat was acted on by inner governmental types, rogue CIA types, rogue FBI types, or just really unwell leftists, I have no idea. And I don't even know if there was any "Acting" at all, or this guy was just that nuts. We literally know nothing about him.

[Mayhem]

Those tariffs are calculated using some blunt force formula and don’t even take into consideration anything taxed that isn’t physical (like service contracts).

And look how the stock market delighted in it…


https://i.imgur.com/IopgclC.jpeg


That’s hundreds of millions of pension funds worldwide screaming in terror. I’m scared to check mine this morning .

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Nonsense. Israel's best hope in the world was getting Trump back into office so that they could get away from Biden soft-walking military aid to them -- and Trump was clear he would give them whatever they needed. And he has.

Israel's best hope was not Trump, it would've been another republician who is a war hawk.

Trump's ideology of America First and Isolationist tendencies represent a threat to Israel which relies on controlling the US government for its own benefit.

Trump didn't give Israel everything they wanted. Trump spearheaded the first ceasefire deal and secretly negotiated with Hamas, both of which are not what Israel wanted.

All of your talk about "The Machine" misses the point entirely. "The Machine" is the Israel lobby which controls the United States.

[Andrew NDB]

Israel's best hope was not Trump, it would've been another republician who is a war hawk.

So let's kill the only viable possible republican candidate on the table at the time the assassination attempt occurred? And hope that with a couple months left in the election some rando would be super popular and elected? I'm sorry, man... there is no water in this bag. This is crazytown.

Trump didn't give Israel everything they wanted. Trump spearheaded the first ceasefire deal and secretly negotiated with Hamas, both of which are not what Israel wanted.

And he pivoted from that. As opposed to Biden just thumping the gavel about "I want this war to end! On both sides!" And not giving Israel or the IDF anything they need.

All of your talk about "The Machine" misses the point entirely. "The Machine" is the Israel lobby which controls the United States.

Sorry, I'm not seeing it.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

So let's kill the only viable possible republican candidate on the table at the time the assassination attempt occurred? And hope that with a couple months left in the election some rando would be super popular and elected? I'm sorry, man... there is no water in this bag. This is crazytown.

Not crazy town at all, the election was Bidens and Kamala's to lose. The debate had sealed the deal for Biden to drop out, and Kamala was not popular regardless.

Trump would've been seen as a martyr if he got killed and the Republician Party would've gotten a popularity boost.

When you have a martyr, revenge must be sought upon the killer as per the public consciousness. Guess who was being targeted in the media as wanting to kill Trump? Iran.

And which country would benefit the most if Trump got killed and the blame got pinned on Iran? Israel would benefit the most without a doubt, they have everything to gain from this.

[Andrew NDB]

Trump would've been seen as a martyr if he got killed and the Republician Party would've gotten a popularity boost.

The republican party voters didn't win the election. Independent voters did.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

And he pivoted from that. As opposed to Biden just thumping the gavel about "I want this war to end! On both sides!" And not giving Israel or the IDF anything they need. .

Pivot or no pivot, it doesn't change the fact that Trump got those things done and Biden didn't.

Sorry, I'm not seeing it.

If you're not seeing how this foreign power completely occupies your government through the billions of dollars in foreign aid, the sexual blackmail of American politicians, surpression of its criticism, AIPAC, the ADL, The Canary Mission, Miriam Adleson, George Soros and BlackRock, then I'd be quite interested in a discussion.

The republican party voters didn't win the election. Independent voters did.

Do you think that would've given Kamala the win?

[Andrew NDB]

Do you think that would've given Kamala the win?

If that gunman had been successful? Yeah. There might have been some "civil unrest" for a while across the country, but ultimately I don't imagine any other republican candidate could suddenly jump into the race and do any better than Trump at that point. There just wasn't enough widespread support for any of the other republican candidates when Trump won the nomination. Like, Trump dies, and now suddenly everyone is going to vote for Nikki Haley or DeSantis and they become super popular? Vivek maybe? I don't see it.

[Mayhem]

If that gunman had been successful? Yeah. There might have been some "civil unrest" for a while across the country, but ultimately I don't imagine any other republican candidate could suddenly jump into the race and do any better than Trump at that point. There just wasn't enough widespread support for any of the other republican candidates when Trump won the nomination. Like, Trump dies, and now suddenly everyone is going to vote for Nikki Haley or DeSantis and they become super popular? Vivek maybe? I don't see it.
So honest question then, where does the GoP go after Trump is gone (either via death or somehow completing his term)? Because I can't see them specifically going for any product of Trump's wandering loins...

[Andrew NDB]

So honest question then, where does the GoP go after Trump is gone (either via death or somehow completing his term)?

"Somehow" completing his term? Because that will be so difficult for him to do?

I honestly don't know. But there's plenty of time for candidates to make their case in the proper fashion. As it stands, JD Vance will certainly be the one to beat, for sure.

[Coola Yagami]

"Somehow" completing his term? Because that will be so difficult for him to do?



Any Big Mac, Any day now.

[Andrew NDB]

Any Big Mac, Any day now.

Because he has some kind of history of health problems? He doesn't.

[member_removed]

"Somehow" completing his term? Because that will be so difficult for him to do?

I honestly don't know. But there's plenty of time for candidates to make their case in the proper fashion. As it stands, JD Vance will certainly be the one to beat, for sure.

I just don't see anyone on the Republican side of the isle that has the cult of personality/charisma/gift of the gab that Trump has.

I thought maybe Ron DeSantis seemed like the guy, but his showings in the 2024 debates was very lame. Of course he was hamstrung by not being able to attack Trump or Trump polices for fear of alienating MAGA.

Because he has some kind of history of health problems? He doesn't.

I've seen reports of that his Body Mass Index ranging from 30-31, which is clinically obese. It has been noted that he has recently lost weight. Most likely due to Ozempic and following Melania's diet.

His parents lasted to 88 and 93 (with Alzheimer's).

My concern is it's not unexpected for a man of such an age to die of natural causes (He'll be 82 by the end of his second term). And if a man in that age range dies of natural causes, the conspiracy nuts will start blaming the "deep state".

[IndigoErth]

Ain't no way someone who has reached that age and that er, shape has zero health issues. Health info being private information along with this being someone like him, and esp while in office, who prob even more-so has the power to not disclose that kind of information.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I'd like to be wrong of course, but I have a gut feeling that Trump will die while in office.

[member_removed]

I'd like to be wrong of course, but I have a gut feeling that Trump will die while in office.

I think there should age limit on the Job, the Constitution states you need to be at least 35 to run for president. Why not a limit on the other end of the spectrum.

Say 62, then you can see out two terms and then you're 70, go write a book, get a book deal and enjoy your golden years. if you're over 62, you can run for one term.

No more old farts constantly spewing word salad and complaining they knew nothing about that.

Same for the Supreme court, hit 70, bye bitches. That's how Australia does it with their justice system.

[IndigoErth]

Would very much agree with age limits. Fading Baby Boomers out there still trying to control everything and expecting the world to still work as it did 50 or 60 years ago. At this point it's doubtful Gen X, and maybe not older Millennials either, will ever get a chance to be in that seat. (Initially I thought that had Harris won she might have been the first non-Boomer. Nope, she's a final year Boomer.)

Would agree on a Supreme Court age limit, too, since that doesn't even feel like it's in the best interest that it's a lifetime appointment if someone's fading mind or antiquated ideas may not be what modern America wants and needs.

Also, no more packing the court favoring any president's political leanings and objectives. If they insist on playing politics with a lifetime position when it's supposed to be impartial... then divide the 9 seats up in 3rds. Three conservative leaning, three liberal leaning, three center. Shouldn't have to be that way, but if they can't craft a court that fairly represents the people and presidents now see it as a tool for their own objectives...

[Andrew NDB]

I just don't see anyone on the Republican side of the isle that has the cult of personality/charisma/gift of the gab that Trump has.

I thought maybe Ron DeSantis seemed like the guy, but his showings in the 2024 debates was very lame. Of course he was hamstrung by not being able to attack Trump or Trump polices for fear of alienating MAGA.

Yeah... the same, really. I thought DeSantis would be the guy. Was hoping for that, in fact, and for a variety of reasons. Number One, that it'd take the left at least a year or two to figure out how to Hitlerize him, so we'd at least get a LITTLE breather from all that stuff.

I'd like to be wrong of course, but I have a gut feeling that Trump will die while in office.

If you're basing that on, "Trump eats a lot of McDonald's and seems beefy so he'll probably die soon/maybe I want him to and I like verbally vomiting death fantasies" then no, sorry, he doesn't display any older than he did 10 years ago. Compare any speaking he's done now to then and it's about the same. And it's not like NOT eating McDonald's made Biden not a vegetable at a comparable age.

If you're basing that on Trump already having 2.5 assassination attempts while he was running this term and not even elected yet (like, we need to NIX this guy before he even gets in there at all) -- two of which nearly succeeded or would have had mitigating circumstances not intervened -- then... objectively, I guess that's fair. There could be worse odds there, sure, if one were to bet on that side of the coin.

[Coola Yagami]

If you're basing that on Trump already having 2.5 assassination attempts while he was running this term and not even elected yet (like, we need to NIX this guy before he even gets in there at all) -- two of which nearly succeeded or would have had mitigating circumstances not intervened -- then... objectively, I guess that's fair. There could be worse odds there, sure, if one were to bet on that side of the coin.

That ear sure did heal flawlessly. Almost as if... nothing happened to it. Like.. at all.

[Andrew NDB]

That ear sure did heal flawlessly. Almost as if... nothing happened to it. Like.. at all.

One of the most ridiculous conspiracy theories I've ever seen. As if such a thing could be planned or plotted (which is exactly what these brain types DO say could happen, of course, so I know I'm not swaying anyone here) and we still end up with actual dead bystanders. It's sick and weird and implies that not only did Trump and his team somehow plan to kill actual Trump fans but somehow fake injure him.

I really don't have anything to say to people who subscribe to this kind of thing. There really aren't any words beyond maybe "wow."

[FredWolfLeonardo]

That ear sure did heal flawlessly. Almost as if... nothing happened to it. Like.. at all.

Well, I could agree with that from one angle. The bullet did just barely graze his ear after all, it didn't actually blow the ear off so there wouldn't be much damage.

[Mayhem]

"Somehow" completing his term? Because that will be so difficult for him to do?
More angled that he either becomes so unpopular he steps down, is kicked out via a coup, or medically becomes too ill to continue. Anything such as a heart attack, Putin disposing of him, or a successful sniper I covered in the “death” part heh.

There are undeniable signs he has dementia, it comes out like trying to hide your real accent, and the GoP are covering it up, like the Democrats did with Biden, to preserve his support. As noted he is obese, doesn’t seem to get a lot of exercise bar walking during golf, and will be older than Biden was by the time of the midterms.

And yes, I do support a maximum age for running for President rule too.

[Autbot_Benz]

Thanks to the orange idiot CNBC is saying Toy prices could go up 50%. If that happens I won’t be collecting much anymore

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/04/toy-prices-trump-tariffs-china-vietnam.html

The toy aisle is about to get more expensive.

President Donald Trump expanded his trade war this week, placing a 10% baseline tariff on almost every country and much steeper levies on dozens of others. Among those hit with higher tariffs were China and Vietnam — two nations that are vital to the domestic toy industry.

For decades, U.S. toy companies have worked with Chinese manufacturers to bring the hottest action figures, dolls and games to retail shelves. Vietnam became a solid secondary market for companies looking to diversify their factory locations amid growing trade tensions between Washington and Beijing.

Trump slapped China with an additional 34% duty Wednesday, bringing the total tax on goods from the nation to 54%, and hit Vietnam with a 46% tariff. The levy is far higher than what toy companies expected and could lead to massive price hikes on toys, industry experts said.

“Everyone is really in scramble mode,” Greg Ahearn, president and CEO of The Toy Association, told CNBC. “This is going to have massive negative repercussions for the consumer and for our industry.”

[Andrew NDB]

Thanks to the orange idiot CNBC is saying Toy prices could go up 50%. If that happens I won’t be collecting much anymore

They're probably doing you a favor.

[sdp]

Everything is going to get more expensive. Even IF production of stuff went back to the U.S., that would take years to even begin changing the supply chain and if it did the prices would still go up, jobs would not be made since it'd most likely automate most processes. At best it'd be a zero sum game.
I personally find all this fascinating, I have a lot of liquidity right now and looking my best way to profit as the stock market crashes. We've never seen anything like this because literally no one would've been stupid enough to try it, the consequences are too large. As an economist this is beyond interesting to see play out, You're moving big pieces in a complex system. We are going to see some pretty big changes in globalization after this although not the intended ones of course.

[IndigoErth]

Thanks to the orange idiot CNBC is saying Toy prices could go up 50%. If that happens I won’t be collecting much anymore

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/04/toy-prices-trump-tariffs-china-vietnam.html

The toy aisle is about to get more expensive.

That stinks. I don't buy much very often anyhow, but there's sometimes things I wait around keeping an eye out for... like that Mirage Leo NECA needs to put in my store(s) before stuff jumps. :tgrumble:

Will be interesting to see if most people end up having to dial it back next Christmas, shame for kids though.

[Cowabung-Gal]

The toy aisle is about to get more expensive.

Will be interesting to see if most people end up having to dial it back next Christmas, shame for kids though.

In my day, we had plenty of fun just throwing rocks at each other. Big bag of dirt clods, that's what the kids want.

-Lou Pickles

[Andrew NDB]

https://s.faketrumptweet.com/m93481hf_1bk1wo1_144827.png

[Autbot_Benz]

Will be interesting to see if most people end up having to dial it back next Christmas, shame for kids though.

The Trump who killed Christmas coming to ABC this winter. :lol:

[IndigoErth]

The trade war on Christmas!

[Mayhem]

The best explanation I’ve seen about how the ChatGPT tariffs are basically ****ing everybody at every point..

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIEnWMlR2-3/?igsh=cnllMTA1cW1sMnF3

[Mayhem]

**** me, the word salads are getting worse…

https://bsky.app/profile/bigbluewaveusa.bsky.social/post/3lm56fsnu4c2c

[IndigoErth]

It's like the meandering babbling of a very small child, but with more words and a focus on "terrible thing(s)."

[Mayhem]

Coincidence or targeting? I’ll let you decide…

https://eu.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2025/04/07/lawyer-for-u-m-protester-held-at-airport-refused-to-give-feds-his-phone/82978891007/#iidn78bbi1e7bccbwqbesxh1mmu5wba2

[FredWolfLeonardo]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-08/israel-to-eliminate-us-trade-barriers-trump-wont-pause-tariffs/105149326

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/netanyahu-to-depart-us-for-israel-tuesday-after-disappointing-visit/

Trump refuses to pause Tarrifs on Israel, will negotiate with Iran.

First Zelensky, now Netanyahu. Good to see Trump putting these clowns in their place, they have ripped off America for far too long.

[Autbot_Benz]

The U.S. will impose a 104% tariff on China beginning at 12:01 a.m. EDT Wednesday, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said in a briefing Tuesday.

Starting tomorrow, the White House will begin collecting steep levies on imported goods from China, as President Trump follows through on a threat issued against Beijing on Truth Social Monday.

Mr. Trump on Monday threatened to slap an additional 50% tariff on imports from China after the nation said it would impose a 34% import fee on American products. China's retaliatory move came after Mr. Trump said China would face a 34% tariff on all goods imported to the U.S., a rate tailored specifically to China. :roll:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-104-tariff-threat-retaliatory/

[IndigoErth]

Someone's mad China won't tell him out to build a great big functional wall.

[Autbot_Benz]

Trump puts 90 day hold on reciprocal Tarrifs expect China

https://i.imgur.com/269cPAc.jpeg

[Andrew NDB]

https://i.imgur.com/QgKldyn.jpeg

There is a version of that image that is correct... but the text there is completely different. :)

[Mayhem]

Well there’s nothing wrong with the text, because he’s a total ****ing dumbass who doesn’t realise China won’t blink first…

[Barkworm]

Donald Trump, doing world politics like an elementary school bully. Infuriating, yes. But expected.

[member_removed]

Donald Trump, doing world politics like an elementary school bully. Infuriating, yes. But expected.

More like Homer Simpson "Tariff's go up, Tariff's go down'.

[neatoman]

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[Andrew NDB]

I'm waiting for the "I stand with China!" pins on social media.

[Mayhem]

Petulant orange manbaby goes after law firms that opposed him

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/09/trump-executive-order-fox-news-law-firm

[IndigoErth]

Who would stand with China?

Okay, there's always gonna be a minority of nuts with odd takes and people who purposely act contrarian no matter the issue, and rightists LOVE to find them so they can cherry pick those people and scream about leftists being bad or weird. But pretty sure most people can recognize the stupidity of choosing to play tug of war with China, in a way that will just hurt the average consumer, without siding with China.


We can cut back and buy less of the unnecessary stuff fine. The part that worries me is that China is apparently a major global producer and exporter of important things like antibiotics and the ingredients that go into them, and the U.S. is supposedly rather dependent on foreign sources. If you get a nasty infection that could become life threatening and the appropriate antibiotic becomes difficult to have access to for a while... well, good luck. Death by infection would probably be a terribly painful way to go.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Who would stand with China?

Okay, there's always gonna be a minority of nuts with odd takes and people who purposely act contrarian no matter the issue.

I'm that nut who looooooves China for being a Far-Right Dictatorship. Trump should be taking notes from them on how to rule a country.

Glory to Supreme Leader Xi!

UctriMuXYS0

[ToTheNines]

Elon ****ing sucks lol: https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-is-annoying-unfunny-and-should-probably-take-a-drug-test-trump-officials-reportedly-say-2000587948

[ResidentEvil7]

Elon ****ing sucks lol:

Elon is worth more and is more successful than you'll ever be! So if you think he sucks, what do you think of yourself? What are you worth; what have you done to better humanity?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

No one, not even MAGA loyalists, should trust Elon.

Just under three years ago he hated Trump and is hardly right wing by any meaningful standard. In other words, Elon is not Based.

Elon is worth more and is more successful than you'll ever be! So if you think he sucks, what do you think of yourself? What are you worth; what have you done to better humanity?

What if someone used this logic for any rich Democrat politcian that you hate? That they're more successful and habe done more than you ever have?

[ToTheNines]

Elon is worth more and is more successful than you'll ever be! So if you think he sucks, what do you think of yourself? What are you worth; what have you done to better humanity?

You don’t even know me, freak.

In other words, Elon is not Based.

That’s all there is to it. Just a cringe globalist.

[TigerClaw]

There's a bunch of AI generated videos depicting a dystopian future of American workers in warehouses and sweatshops after the China tariffs.

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Its so bad, Even the Superheroes have to work the factories.

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[IndigoErth]

LOL The Marvel one. AI is getting far too good at this.


Elon is worth more and is more successful than you'll ever be! So if you think he sucks, what do you think of yourself? What are you worth; what have you done to better humanity?

Compared to the actual article, he was being kind... considering the article title is:

Elon Musk Is Annoying, Unfunny, and Should Probably
Take a Drug Test, Trump Officials Reportedly Say
A senior official describes the billionaire as an awkward and obnoxious asshole.

What has Musk done for you to even deserve your defense? He doesn't need the defense from any of us lowly regular Americans, he already grabbed his power and he can throw it around to our detriment.


Elon is like that weird kid in school that managed to eventually find success, but not that awkward kid who was actually a good person and simply deserved more of a chance and eventually found themselves... nah, he's that weird, yet strangely self-important kid who was actually terrible, did and said creepy s***, deserved every strange look he got for it, then after finding power he wields it over others, hurting innocent people because the kids back in school wouldn't put up with him.

[TigerClaw]

LOL The Marvel one. IA is getting far too good at this.
Here's another one
https://x.com/DriveGreen80167/status/1910250608499494940

[Autbot_Benz]

LOL The Marvel one. AI is getting far too good at this.




Compared to the actual article, he was being kind... considering the article title is:



What has Musk done for you to even deserve your defense? He doesn't need the defense from any of us lowly regular Americans, he already grabbed his power and he can throw it around to our detriment.



Maybe he is trying to get a job at DOGE :lol:

[Autbot_Benz]

That was the nightmarish scenario immigration advocates and constitutional law experts were considering on Monday after President Donald Trump again pushed a provocative plan to deport U.S. citizens who have been convicted of unspecified crimes.

Trump discussed the issue in the White House with El Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele, who has agreed to deposit people deported from the U.S. into a notorious prison.

“We always have to obey the laws, but we also have homegrown criminals that push people into subways, that hit elderly ladies on the back of the head with a baseball bat when they’re not looking, that are absolute monsters,” Trump told reporters. “I’d like to include them.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-floats-legally-questionable-proposal-deport-us-citizens-rcna201183

[IndigoErth]

I'd like to include him, too, but we can't always have what we want, can we Mr. Trump.

[Coola Yagami]

So Andrew (and any other Hispanic that might be here), thoughts on the fact that innocent people are just being deported without due process and pretty much 'because we said so'? There was a case about a guy with an autism awareness tattoo, and he was deported because allegedly it was a gang tattoo. What gang, the autism gang?

Then we got a case where they got the wrong guy and they're like 'grab him anyway'. And this ain't no 'they'll check my paperwork for a few hours and let me go' situation like Andrew says. Dude was flat out deported. No due process.

https://www.newsweek.com/merwil-gutierrez-ice-wrong-teen-el-salvador-2059783

Geez. Good thing I barely leave the house. We're basically getting deported based on the color of our skin, regardless if we're legal citizens or not.

[Autbot_Benz]

So Andrew (and any other Hispanic that might be here), thoughts on the fact that innocent people are just being deported without due process and pretty much 'because we said so'? There was a case about a guy with an autism awareness tattoo, and he was deported because allegedly it was a gang tattoo. What gang, the autism gang?

Then we got a case where they got the wrong guy and they're like 'grab him anyway'. And this ain't no 'they'll check my paperwork for a few hours and let me go' situation like Andrew says. Dude was flat out deported. No due process.

https://www.newsweek.com/merwil-gutierrez-ice-wrong-teen-el-salvador-2059783

Geez. Good thing I barely leave the house. We're basically getting deported based on the color of our skin, regardless if we're legal citizens or not.

Don’t forget the thing with legal Maryland father Kilmer Garcia who was deported and even the clown administration admitted it was wrong. The Trump Admin are ignoring Judges orders to bring Garcia home.

[Andrew NDB]

So Andrew (and any other Hispanic that might be here), thoughts on the fact that innocent people are just being deported without due process and pretty much 'because we said so'? There was a case about a guy with an autism awareness tattoo, and he was deported because allegedly it was a gang tattoo. What gang, the autism gang?

Then we got a case where they got the wrong guy and they're like 'grab him anyway'. And this ain't no 'they'll check my paperwork for a few hours and let me go' situation like Andrew says. Dude was flat out deported. No due process.

https://www.newsweek.com/merwil-gutierrez-ice-wrong-teen-el-salvador-2059783

Geez. Good thing I barely leave the house. We're basically getting deported based on the color of our skin, regardless if we're legal citizens or not.

An illegal immigrant got deported? Oh well. I thought I was going to click on a story where a legal migrant is got deported. I don't know that we owe much of anything to people who knowingly come here the wrong way and with subterfuge.

"Illegal immigrant" isn't a race or a skin color. Stop letting yourself be lied to.

[Coola Yagami]

An illegal immigrant got deported? Oh well. I thought I was going to click on a story where a legal migrant is got deported. I don't know that we owe much of anything to people who knowingly come here the wrong way and with subterfuge.

"Illegal immigrant" isn't a race or a skin color. Stop letting yourself be lied to.

Why deported to a country he's not even from and to a prison for gangs he wasn't even a member of? He was seeking an asylum case and was working on getting set legally. Imagine you get grabbed and they take you to this prison instead of just dumping you off in Tijuana or something.

And dude, cut the BS. You know to ICE 'illegal immigrant' is pretty much slang for brown person.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

It's so fascinating how me and Andrew support Trump for entirely different reasons.

I wonder if one day, Andrew is going to be utterly horrified if Trump goes too far from his Centrist Ideal. Or maybe I will be dissapointed that Trump did not go Far Right enough.

[Coola Yagami]

It's so fascinating how me and Andrew support Trump for entirely different reasons.

I wonder if one day, Andrew is going to be utterly horrified if Trump goes too far from his Centrist Ideal. Or maybe I will be dissapointed that Trump did not go Far Right enough.

He'd most likely applaud it. I don't think it's possible for Trump to do anything wrong in his eyes.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

He'd most likely applaud it. I don't think it's possible for Trump to do anything wrong in his eyes.

I don't know about that.

Andrew voted for Hilary in 2016, and if I remember correctly, he supported De Santis instead of Trump for a short while. He doesn't come off as one of the original MAGA supporters or as a Trump Loyalist to me.

In fact, this is one of the reasons why my exchanges with Andrew are much more heated than my exchange with leftists like Mayhem and Barkworm. With Leftists, there is almost a mutual respect of sorts because they know with clarity that I don't downplay any of Trump's Authoritarian and Extremist elements.

The Leftists clearly know where I stand and I know where they stand. With people like Andrew on the other hand, I see their views as much more of a threat because they will essentially 'pacify' and 'de-fang' Trump, and we are constantly competing over our conflicting visions of what the Donald should represent.

[Barkworm]

The problem lies elsewhere: When a religious fundamentalist agrees with Donald Trump, it doesn't fit the warped worldview of right-wing extremists who wrongly believe themselves to be centrist. But of course, you guys are on the same page. There will not be any 'pacifying' Trump's authoritarian policies because that's what his fans love.

[IMJ]

The problem lies elsewhere: When a religious fundamentalist agrees with Donald Trump, it doesn't fit the warped worldview of right-wing extremists who wrongly believe themselves to be centrist. But of course, you guys are on the same page. There will not be any 'pacifying' Trump's authoritarian policies because that's what his fans love.

What his fans actually love are his ongoing finger and defiance to all concepts of the left's assault on America and normalcy over the years.

It's really that simple. The guy is the personification and action of normalized-America ongoing and very long eyeroll at liberal mania.

[Andrew NDB]

Why deported to a country he's not even from and to a prison for gangs he wasn't even a member of? He was seeking an asylum case and was working on getting set legally. Imagine you get grabbed and they take you to this prison instead of just dumping you off in Tijuana or something.

So 100 people break into your house, and now a new landlord installed a new security system to make sure nobody else breaks in... but there's still those 100 people that broke in, still living in your house. Do you throw them out, or give them a lot of "due process" and "Days in court" -- and if so, how much, and more importantly why?

And dude, cut the BS. You know to ICE 'illegal immigrant' is pretty much slang for brown person.

No, I don't know that. But I'm sorry you've let leftist media fear factor you, as that was always their goal.

[Coola Yagami]

So 100 people break into your house, and now a new landlord installed a new security system to make sure nobody else breaks in... but there's still those 100 people that broke in, still living in your house. Do you throw them out, or give them a lot of "due process" and "Days in court" -- and if so, how much, and more importantly why?




Based on your example, you'd get thrown out along with those 100 people despite your name being on the lease or deed.

[ResidentEvil7]

I say big deal about ethnic minorities getting deported or disadvantaged, because where was all the concern about whites being hated on when Biden was in office? It only matters when it's blacks and browns that get disadvantaged by others and never whites.

[Andrew NDB]

Based on your example, you'd get thrown out along with those 100 people despite your name being on the lease or deed.

This is idiotic. I'm not an illegal immigrant and therefor not someone who broke into the house. And neither is my mother.

I'm not sure what it is with you and just not "getting" the illegal vs. legal part of the equation. It's ridiculously simple.

[IMJ]

The first conclusion conforms to personal interpretation influenced by fear and personal worldviews (i.e., 'illegal immigrant' is pretty much slang for brown person). Additionally, the fear that motivates this line of thought is largely irrational and also born of deranged disdain for a guy in office. Do the mental algebra and it isn't cogent thinking - it's just more thoughts influenced by biases and strange behavior. And this largely defines the left and Trump-derangement.

The other conclusion conforms to a system - one that was agreed upon by many decisions makers long-before the "boogieman" took office. It asks people to conform to a nationally prescribed set of rules that allows for immigration and new arrivals. And those rules are now being enforced. Do the mental algebra and it's cogent logic that keeps a system functioning properly.

Balance the two against one another and it's simple, as it always has been - you have the left flailing against established rules and growth with irrational emotions and warped thinking leading to the first conclusion. Basically throwing tantrums to confirm their worldview. Meanwhile, every other normal well-adjusted person says "be here legally and it's great, be here illegally and we not only have rules for that occasion, but an ongoing and abused series of forgiveness's for it as well".

Okay? It's an obvious mental algebra for literally anyone who doesn't have to warp reality to make their irrational argument. And of course the left won't accept that obvious breakdown because it shines a light on their behavior and they can't cope with looking in a mirror and saying "my God, I'm a f'n nut". Nothing sets a crazy person off more than pointing out their crazy.

[Mayhem]

Most illegals didn’t even enter illegally, they came in perfectly fine but never left. Like Musk and Melania for example.

The case re Garcia is complex. Was he there illegally? Yes. Has he been in the US quite a while? Yes, six years. But he was also progressing to becoming a citizen, is married to a citizen, and had a court order stating he was allowed to stay and not be deported for testifying against MS13 members.

The main issue is, legally there or illegally, is the lack of due process. And if Trump is happy for the ICE teams to ignore that part of the constitution, he’s happy to both ignore any other part of the constitution and come after anyone he doesn’t like regardless of status.

[IndigoErth]

I say big deal about ethnic minorities getting deported or disadvantaged, because where was all the concern about whites being hated on when Biden was in office? It only matters when it's blacks and browns that get disadvantaged by others and never whites.
Where did you personally see anti-white hate and disadvantages first hand? I never saw any over here.

[CyberCubed]

What I'm confused about is why do they only go after the hispanic immigrants? There's a whole bunch of illegal Chinese immigrants living in Manhattan in Chinatown and you never hear a peep about Asians being deported. Do you guys even know how many Chinese are in the U.S. that are not here legally, and only because their family members let them stay with them?

[sdp]

Do women really need to go to college?

[Mayhem]

Do women really need to go to college?
I’m really hoping that’s a satirical or rhetorical question.

[IndigoErth]

What I'm confused about is why do they only go after the hispanic immigrants?

My guess is a common boogeyman that's useful for playing politics. Asian illegals are, I assume, a much smaller number, so that's not threatening enough. Conservatives seem to have let up on the local Asian hate since Covid let up. The border with Mexico though... it's right there... always looming over the good people of America, waiting to get us and eat all of our pets.

[Andrew NDB]

What I'm confused about is why do they only go after the hispanic immigrants?

The answer is... they don't.

BovKhEXmnCU

And while I don't doubt they're out there (and in fact, many are regularly found trying to cross the SOUTHERN border, along with people from other countries including Middle Eastern ones and other countries) and I personally know dozens upon dozens of illegal immigrant Mexicans in my state, I've never actually met an illegal immigrant Asian hiding out. There are plenty of stories of Asians being human trafficked in, like on rail cars, then forced to work off some never-ending debt but that's quite a different story.

[IMJ]

What I'm confused about is why do they only go after the hispanic immigrants? There's a whole bunch of illegal Chinese immigrants living in Manhattan in Chinatown and you never hear a peep about Asians being deported. Do you guys even know how many Chinese are in the U.S. that are not here legally, and only because their family members let them stay with them?

They go after all illegal immigrants dude.
The story just focuses on the hispanics mostly for two reasons:
1. the majority are hispanic, explicitly because we border South America (rather than say "China")
2. the story is exacerbated to focus on Hispanics to catalyze Hispanic outrage because they are the majority of modern immigration.

[member_removed]

They go after all illegal immigrants dude.
The story just focuses on the hispanics mostly for two reasons:
1. the majority are hispanic, explicitly because we border South America (rather than say "China")
2. the story is exacerbated to focus on Hispanics to catalyze Hispanic outrage because they are the majority of modern immigration.

Well it's not like the Us government has a really good working relationship with China at the best of times.

I can't easily imagine the Chinese government welcoming a plane load of illegals with current global relations.

[Mayhem]

Well it's not like the Us government has a really good working relationship with China at the best of times.

I can't easily imagine the Chinese government welcoming a plane load of illegals with current global relations.

Well they wouldn’t. Remember the receiving country had to agree to accept the incoming for starters.

[Coola Yagami]

This is idiotic. I'm not an illegal immigrant and therefor not someone who broke into the house. And neither is my mother.

I'm not sure what it is with you and just not "getting" the illegal vs. legal part of the equation. It's ridiculously simple.

Because Trump and his ilk don't 'get' or care to 'get' the illegal vs legal part of the equation despite it being ridiculously simple. He's even trying to see if he can get past birth right citizenship.

Also without due process how would they tell if they're legal or not. It's ship to prison now, ask questions later, maybe. Without due process they can deport YOU and by the time your family or whoever tries to sort it out and prove your legal citizenship you're already cellmates with gang members in El Salvador. Despite not even being from there.

Bottom line, he wants want all brown people out. The criminals and gang members are for starters because those make sense and those spark outrage for being here and celebration when they get the boot. The problem is innocent people getting the boot in the crossfire. The problem is Trump intends to keep poking around and see how far he can go, trying to get past birthright citizenship. First the criminals, the obvious choice, because logically everyone would want these murderers out. Then it's the rest of us.

[member_removed]

Well they wouldn’t. Remember the receiving country had to agree to accept the incoming for starters.

That's why he is targeting the population he is. For all his bluster, he hasn't got the scrot to really pick a big fight with China.

[CyberCubed]

Because Trump and his ilk don't 'get' or care to 'get' the illegal vs legal part of the equation despite it being ridiculously simple. He's even trying to see if he can get past birth right citizenship.

Also without due process how would they tell if they're legal or not. It's ship to prison now, ask questions later, maybe. Without due process they can deport YOU and by the time your family or whoever tries to sort it out and prove your legal citizenship you're already cellmates with gang members in El Salvador. Despite not even being from there.

Bottom line, he wants want all brown people out. The criminals and gang members are for starters because those make sense and those spark outrage for being here and celebration when they get the boot. The problem is innocent people getting the boot in the crossfire. The problem is Trump intends to keep poking around and see how far he can go, trying to get past birthright citizenship. First the criminals, the obvious choice, because logically everyone would want these murderers out. Then it's the rest of us.

I mean, Andrew isn't brown. Light-skinned hispanics are "in the clear" so to speak. It's dark-skinned and brown hispanics that are on the chopping block. That's probably why some hispanics don't care.

[sdp]

I don't know about Andrew, I think he's projecting too hard. Perhaps someone should call an ICE tip to check his status out just to be sure. I mean He's like from central America or something I think and those places are full of gangs and he has some of those ethnic type tattoos I think.
I believe he mentioned something about him being an anchor baby basically so he's not really "legal" either if his mother or grandmother came here "legally". I'm not saying he isn't, perhaps he is, who the hell knows. But for someone who projects so hard, it's like he's hiding something. He can only blame so much on his autism you know. If he has nothing to hide then there's no reason why we can't have ICE make a quick visit just to make sure he's in the green.

Doesn't he work in a hotel or something? typical immigrant job, sus.
I don't want to sound racist but just look at him:
https://forums.thetechnodrome.com/customavatars/avatar3290_3.gif
He seems like someone I could find on the back of a truck at home depot or mowing my lawn.
https://media.tenor.com/MzbiZMxBrXQAAAAe/deported-deportation.png

[Mayhem]

I don’t know whether to chuckle or be shocked…

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIlqD0SRoAQ/?igsh=MWgyanhndDhqcHVvdA==

[Barkworm]

What his fans actually love are his ongoing finger and defiance to all concepts of the left's assault on America and normalcy over the years.

It's really that simple. The guy is the personification and action of normalized-America ongoing and very long eyeroll at liberal mania.
The ‚normalcy‘ you like to talk about is a horrible joke to anyone with a shred of decency. And even the illusion of his expertise on the economy is crumbling as his childish policies unfold.

But anyway. I hope you guys all enjoyed your Easter eggs.

[Mayhem]

But anyway. I hope you guys all enjoyed your Easter eggs.
Americans don’t do Easter eggs in the same way…

[IndigoErth]

Americans don’t do Easter eggs…

Fixed it, too expensive this year. Lol

[Mayhem]

Fixed it, too expensive this year. Lol
Not just the ones laid by chickens huh?

[IndigoErth]

*Look of American horror* lol

Granted I haven't dyed any in years, but the thought of dying non-chickens eggs for Easter feels...weird. lol

Can't say I've ever seen much available locally that wasn't from chickens. Probably more niche sources and likely already more expensive for being 'special.' Though even if it was more common, unfortunately the avian flu behind the prices isn't a chicken-only virus and other birds kept for eggs are at risk of being hit, too.

You DID mean birds...? You guys across the pond aren't over there eating imported platypus eggs or something, right?

[Mayhem]

Nah the joke is they’re laid by the Easter bunny :lol:

Anyhow, what WE mean by Easter eggs here are these…

https://www.cadburygiftsdirect.co.uk/our-product-range/shop-by-product/easter-products.html

[IndigoErth]

Dang, we've got Cadbury, but not nearly that many options. Usually, I just see the regular foil cream eggs in stores and that's about it.

[ranger_scout]

If the Democraric Party's future is going "dark woke," then they are truly lost souls. It will backfire on them. I think I need to start praying the Rosary more often for the conversion of sinners.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/resistance-democrats-embrace-combative-profanity-laced-dark-woke-rebrand-combat-trump

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Not gonna lie, Dark Woke sounds kinda Badass.

[ranger_scout]

Not gonna lie, Dark Woke sounds kinda Badass.

Then I will be praying for you, especially during my rosary today, should you go down that route.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Then I will be praying for you, especially during my rosary today, should you go down that route.

I'm anti-woke and Pro-Trump as they get, I was only joking around.
I still appreciate the prayers though, God Bless.

[ranger_scout]

I'm anti-woke and Pro-Trump as they get, I was only joking around.
I still appreciate the prayers though, God Bless.

Oh okay. I assumed you were serious when you said, "not gonna lie." I did think of you during the rosary. God bless you, too.

[ZariusTwo]

If the Democraric Party's future is going "dark woke," then they are truly lost souls. It will backfire on them. I think I need to start praying the Rosary more often for the conversion of sinners.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/resistance-democrats-embrace-combative-profanity-laced-dark-woke-rebrand-combat-trump

This is what a whole generation of activists raised on enjoying Hayden Christiansen unironically looks like.

[Mayhem]

But his laptop…! If this is true below, Jesus Christ on a bike corruption…

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJKSXpZpUOv/?igsh=ZnpwZjFkcHp2Yms0

[IMJ]

This is what a whole generation of activists raised on enjoying Hayden Christiansen unironically looks like.

:lol:
I would have said Power Rangers..... entertainment for the simple-minded.

Communist clone heroes covered in virtue-diversity so blunt that it's a nation-sized hammer on young brains. That, amidst archetypical cartoon-evil so obtuse and lacking in sophistication that it informs the viewer that anything but the greatest of sensitivity around them is real-life "evil".

[ZariusTwo]

:lol:
I would have said Power Rangers..... entertainment for the simple-minded.

Communist clone heroes covered in virtue-diversity so blunt that it's a nation-sized hammer on young brains. That, amidst archetypical cartoon-evil so obtuse and lacking in sophistication that it informs the viewer that anything but the greatest of sensitivity around them is real-life "evil".

_6LoXoonOZE


:P

[IMJ]

:lol::lol::lol: WTf.... :lol::lol:

[Autbot_Benz]

No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen
@NoLieWithBTC
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Trump just announced he is imposing a 100% tariff on “all movies that are produced in foreign lands.”

This will significantly raise the price of movie tickets and help put movie theaters out of business.

This orange idiot and his Tarrifs obsession :roll:

[IMJ]

Soooooo..... they make movies in the U.S. for the tax breaks and internal circulation of money, strengthening the U.S. as a whole against the simp-hater narrative that "this will put movie theaters out of business". :roll:

[sdp]

We don't need to film in New Zealand when Missouri has just as many beautiful locations. Everything else can be CG'd. MAGA!

Movie theaters are already going out of business and have been slowly dying since the 2000s, it got a boost with the 3D movie boom, but ever since then it's just been Hollywood slop people would rather watch at home. The only future cinemas have are memeable movies like Minecraft, Episode III & Wicked where the audience can meme along the movie. That's a unique experience that being at home can't re-create.

[Autbot_Benz]

We don't need to film in New Zealand when Missouri has just as many beautiful locations. Everything else can be CG'd. MAGA!


Ya Lord Of The Rings would have looked so much better being filmed in Missouri than New Zealand

[Autbot_Benz]

Trump want’s Alcatraz prison reopened

Today, I am directing the Bureau of Prisons, together with the Department of Justice, FBI, and Homeland Security, to reopen a substantially enlarged and rebuilt ALCATRAZ," Trump wrote.
Trump told reporters as he returned to the White House from Florida, that reopening the prison was "Just an idea I've had" and decided to act on.
"It's a symbol of law and order," he said.
Alcatraz was billed as America's most secure prison given the island location, frigid waters and strong currents. No successful escapes were ever officially recorded from Alcatraz, though five prisoners are listed as "missing and presumed drowned."
Alcatraz was closed because it was too expensive to continue operating, according to the Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP) website, opens new tab, in large part due to its island location. It was nearly three times more costly to operate than any other federal prison, the BOP website said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-directs-bureau-prisons-reopen-alcatraz-2025-05-04/

[Andrew NDB]

Trump want’s Alcatraz prison reopened

OK. *shrug*

[Mayhem]

I am going to love how they are going to define foreign made films here to tariff them (and even how they will impose the tariffs), because it almost sounds as if anything abroad is now verboten.

It’s getting so “hilarious” now that a bill has been put forward that anyone not liking Dear Leader can be classified as mentally ill…

[FredWolfLeonardo]

It’s getting so “hilarious” now that a bill has been put forward that anyone not liking Dear Leader can be classified as mentally ill…

North Korea vibes. BASED

[ToTheNines]

I am going to love how they are going to define foreign made films here to tariff them (and even how they will impose the tariffs), because it almost sounds as if anything abroad is now verboten.

It’s getting so “hilarious” now that a bill has been put forward that anyone not liking Dear Leader can be classified as mentally ill…

Going off the BTC (cuck) tweet, he says “produced” not “filmed”.

[Coola Yagami]

WTF is going on with this guy? Other than the infamous wall, I don't remember anything this major last time around? Renaming the Gulf of Mexico, tarrifs on Hollywood, re-opening Alcatraz, wanting to make Canada the 51st state. I don't remember any of this nonsense the first time around. The first time was complaining about windmills or telling people to inject bleach.

Can he just go back to playing golf and doing mean tweets all day?

[IndigoErth]

Can't run again so the guardrails are off. But people were predicting that would be the case and here we are.

[Autbot_Benz]

WTF is going on with this guy? Other than the infamous wall, I don't remember anything this major last time around? Renaming the Gulf of Mexico, tarrifs on Hollywood, re-opening Alcatraz, wanting to make Canada the 51st state. I don't remember any of this nonsense the first time around. The first time was complaining about windmills or telling people to inject bleach.

Can he just go back to playing golf and doing mean tweets all day?

Don’t forget tarrifs on everything coming in from foreign countries. All the toy companies are raising their prices soon because of it.

Trump thinks little girls only need 2 dolls not 30 and 5 pencils :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

Blegh... here in WA:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/anti-israel-protesters-occupy-university-washington-building-30-arrested

Get them out of here. All of them.

[sdp]

We need to give at least another 4 years to this based administration.

I'm glad people with autism will have to register. Can those that do get a special icon here in the drome so that when people engage with the likes of RE7 and Andrew know logic is off the tables?

[Mayhem]

Going off the BTC (cuck) tweet, he says “produced” not “filmed”.
So any film with a non US registered production company then? Effectively sticking up a big orange finger to any foreign film because he can’t grasp the concept of subtitles :lol:

Can he just go back to playing golf and doing mean tweets all day?
This is the thing, all the right wingers were repeatedly stating Biden was a delinquent puppet during his term, and it’s becoming increasing clear with his mental dementia and word salads, the same is happening with Trump. Keep the figurehead, let him spout a bit, shove him onto the golf course, and the other major figures in the cabinet are really running the show and dictating policy.

[Cowabung-Gal]

DcO-pz941sE

:lol:

[IndigoErth]

I'm glad people with autism will have to register. Can those that do get a special icon here in the drome so that when people engage with the likes of RE7 and Andrew know logic is off the tables?
I mean, you're supposed to use that sort of thing to try to be nice and understanding, but that's filthy liberal talk.




Anyone hearing whispers (or direct messages) of possible job impacts? My company is trying to cut back quite a few accounts to every other week, basically cutting our income from those accounts in half, and only thing I can figure is they're trying to cut costs over the tariffs. Hadn't even considered that even it's an American company, the amount of production that happens in other countries, esp China, may well be impacted still.

At the very least, my supervisor asked us to message her with our thoughts and any stores we think would be an issue when cut back like that, state our reasons, and she'll pass it forward to try to get those accounts reconsidered.

[Coola Yagami]

Don’t forget tarrifs on everything coming in from foreign countries. All the toy companies are raising their prices soon because of it.



Some of the stores I buy my anime and game figures from have either paused some shipments or apologized for the soon-to-be-raised prices due to the tariffs since these are imported straight from Japan.

[Autbot_Benz]

Some of the stores I buy my anime and game figures from have either paused some shipments or apologized for the soon-to-be-raised prices due to the tariffs since these are imported straight from Japan.

Ya I’m not looking forward to seeing what the Bandai banpresto anime statues prices are gonna be from the orange idiot’s tarrifs

[FredWolfLeonardo]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-ditched-israel-with-surprise-houthi-truce-that-doesnt-bode-well-on-iran/

Trump has agreed to a truce with the Houthis.

He is also expected to make a Middle East trip. Saudi Arabia, Qatar and United Arab Emirates so far have been confirmed.

[Mayhem]

He is also expected to make a Middle East trip. Saudi Arabia, Qatar and United Arab Emirates so far have been confirmed.
Got to show your face after being paid billions under the table…

[FredWolfLeonardo]

https://trt.global/world/article/1867280be0a2

Trump has cut ties with Netanyahu as per Israeli Army radio, because he felt like Netanyahu was manipulating him.

Got to show your face after being paid billions under the table…

You're not wrong.

[member_removed]

In good much welcomed news, the US and UK have agreed to reduce tariff's on luxury cars.

UK luxury cars such as Rolls Royce, Jaguar will now only face a 10% Trump tariff and not a 25% one.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp92r2kvk74o

Now these expensive cars will only be slightly expensive. Surely this will help everyday Americans!

Make Foreign Imported Luxury Cars Great Again!

[Autbot_Benz]

Trump thinks toy company Mattel is a country :lol:it’s based in California

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1920510293370626527

Trump: Mattel— they’re the only country I’ve heard saying they’re going to go some place else. That’s okay. Let them go and we’ll put a 100% tariff on his toys. He won’t sell one toy in the US.

[Mayhem]

He’s certainly in the Barbie world, life in plastic…

[Coola Yagami]

He’s certainly in the Barbie world, life in plastic…

But not fantastic.

[Andrew NDB]

He obviously meant "company," but you knew that. A "country" can't go somewhere else, it's a country.