The 2024 presidential election

[Andrew NDB]

So what are the policies beyond giving people free money?

"Donald Trump wants to
drag America back and
cede the future of energy
technology to China.
He will roll back investments
in cutting edge technologies that are powering
America’s future, driving up
costs for families, shipping
good-paying jobs overseas,
and threatening America’s
security.67 Vice President
Harris and Governor Walz
know that we will not go
back. We will invest in
building the energy
industries of the future
here in the United States,
keeping the well-paid
union jobs of the future
here at home."

So... windmills and solar?

[ToTheNines]

I’ll have to see if I can VPN it as it’s only valid to watch inside the US…

Hey we don’t steal your country’s videos about all the nonces in Parliament!

[Cowabung-Gal]

So months before the second assassination attempt, Ryan Routh left a note addressed “To The World”, declaring that he intended to kill Trump and he offered $150,000 to anyone who can complete the job should he fail.

https://nypost.com/2024/09/23/us-news/ryan-wesley-routh-wrote-note-he-intended-to-kill-trump-months-before-golf-course-assassination-attempt-doj/

Dude, $150,000? That’s all? You can’t even buy a house with that money in this economy.

But at least Routh’s son Oran isn’t as crazy, right?

Oops. Nope.

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-son-of-would-be-trump-assassin-ryan-routh-arrested-for-child-pornography

[Andrew NDB]

But at least Routh’s son Oran isn’t as crazy, right?

That's the one that said his dad has never been in trouble with the law, right? Before it turned out all sorts of stuff?

[ZariusTwo]

New York Mayor Eric Adams has been charged conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bribery, in what federal prosecutors say was a conspiracy to seek and accept illegal campaign contributions.

A federal indictment, unsealed this morning, alleges a near decade-long scheme to accept illegal campaign contributions and gifts from Turkish government representatives.

“By smuggling their contributions to Adams through U.S.-based straw donors, Adams’ overseas contributors defeated federal laws that serve to prevent foreign influence on U.S. elections,” the indictment stated.

https://deadline.com/2024/09/eric-adams-indictment-illegal-campaign-contributions-1236100281/

[Zulithe]

Dossier on JD Vance

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/read-the-jd-vance-dossier

Elon nuked his account for reporting on this. So much for free speech. Get f'd Elon.

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Only $100k each

https://x.com/acnewsitics/status/1839336540838989979

https://i.imgur.com/W8bozjl.png

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Newsmax and Smartmatic settle 2020 election defamation case on eve of trial

The settlement is the latest in a string of 2020 election defamation cases to reach an out-of-court agreement before trial. Fox News famously settled with Dominion Voting Systems last year for $787 million, and the far-right channel One America News settled with Smartmatic earlier this year. Both cases were also about the same 2020 election smears.

Newsmax still faces a separate defamation lawsuit over similar claims that was filed by Dominion. Newsmax denies all wrongdoing.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/26/business/newsmax-smartmatic-settle-defamation-case

This is what they get for LYING and promoting DJT's own lies about voting systems. More to come if they keep it up. Keep losing all that money, liars.

[ResidentEvil7]

Dossier on JD Vance

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/read-the-jd-vance-dossier

Elon nuked his account for reporting on this. So much for free speech. Get f'd Elon.

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Only $100k each

https://x.com/acnewsitics/status/1839336540838989979

https://i.imgur.com/W8bozjl.png

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Newsmax and Smartmatic settle 2020 election defamation case on eve of trial



https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/26/business/newsmax-smartmatic-settle-defamation-case

This is what they get for LYING and promoting DJT's own lies about voting systems. More to come if they keep it up. Keep losing all that money, liars.

Shut up you lying hateful Democrap!

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Shut up you lying hateful Democrap!

No, no, man. We have to win Democrats over to our side.

[Zulithe]

I'm not a perfect person but I aim to attack ideas not people. This is how you know you've been listening to Trump too much.

If you don't have better ideas, you aren't going to win. Being mad about it should tell you something about your ideas.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I'm not a perfect person but I aim to attack ideas not people. This is how you know you've been listening to Trump too much.

If you don't have better ideas, you aren't going to win. Being mad about it should tell you something about your ideas.

I am okay with attacking people like Kamala Harris and Tim Walz in arguements. But attacking their voters is just gonna embolden support for them, the same rule also applies for Trump.

What needs to done in my side is that Trump supporters need to capitalise on issues that Democrats aren't satisfied about and offer a better alternative (such as the Middle East situation, for which it is strongly arguable that Trump will bring a very fast end to the wars).

[Andrew NDB]

No, no, man. We have to win Democrats over to our side.

No, just independents would suffice, really.

[CyberCubed]

Shut up you lying hateful Democrap!

:lol:

Calm down, buddy.

[Zulithe]

North Carolina removes 747,000 from voter rolls, citing ineligibility

North Carolina’s State Board of Elections has removed 747,000 people from its list of registered voters within the last 20 months, officials announced Thursday in a press release.

The State Board of Elections in the release said the majority of those stripped from the rolls were deemed ineligible to be registered because they had moved within the state and did not register their new address, or because they did not participate in the past two federal elections, prompting an inactive status.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4901476-north-carolina-purges-747k-voters/

No matter what state you live in, it can't bet stressed enough: make sure you are registered because if you haven't checked recently, you just never know if something like this will happen to YOU.

This is Mark Robinson's (AKA the self-proclaimed black n@zi (https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/19/politics/kfile-mark-robinson-black-nazi-pro-slavery-porn-forum/index.html)) state and I just don't trust them not to be up to something shady.

https://vote.org

[Coola Yagami]

Luckily I just registered. We gotta Protect the Porn.

[Bahamut810]

Kamala economic agenda

https://x.com/josephzeballos/status/1839032131059958070?s=46

Im actually glad that someone has actually put something out. I looked at a few pages to see what was what and I noticed a few things.

1. LOTS of wasted space. It feels like they are trying to make the page count look impressive.
2. What little bit I looked at talked about how she is going to do this or that...but didn't say why she wasn't pushing this or that NOW. It may say later?

This may help me decide my vote as my priority is in personal freedoms.

[Zulithe]

Im actually glad that someone has actually put something out. I looked at a few pages to see what was what and I noticed a few things.

1. LOTS of wasted space. It feels like they are trying to make the page count look impressive.
2. What little bit I looked at talked about how she is going to do this or that...but didn't say why she wasn't pushing this or that NOW. It may say later?

This may help me decide my vote as my priority is in personal freedoms.
by all means vote based on the policies that are most important to you. or at least... that is what I would recommend if trump were honest about actually trying to accomplish any of his:

During and after his term as President of the United States, Donald Trump made tens of thousands of false or misleading claims. The Washington Post's fact-checkers documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during his presidential term, an average of about 21 per day.[1][5][6][7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-fact-checker-tracked-trump-claims/2021/01/23/ad04b69a-5c1d-11eb-a976-bad6431e03e2_story.html

[Andrew NDB]

by all means vote based on the policies that are most important to you.

So what are the biggest Kamala policies you're excited about? Specifically.

[Mayhem]

No matter what state you live in, it can't bet stressed enough: make sure you are registered because if you haven't checked recently, you just never know if something like this will happen to YOU.
This. And it isn't North Carolina that does this, especially if you didn't choose to vote previously and end up inactive. Regardless of which way you vote, make sure sure sure you are registered properly so you aren't screaming blue (or red) murder on polling day and you find out you can't vote.

[IndigoErth]

North Carolina removes 747,000 from voter rolls, citing ineligibility



https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4901476-north-carolina-purges-747k-voters/

No matter what state you live in, it can't bet stressed enough: make sure you are registered because if you haven't checked recently, you just never know if something like this will happen to YOU.

This is Mark Robinson's (AKA the self-proclaimed black n@zi (https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/19/politics/kfile-mark-robinson-black-nazi-pro-slavery-porn-forum/index.html)) state and I just don't trust them not to be up to something shady.

https://vote.org

Wow, they could at least have sent those people a notice about it when they were removed, or attempted to. :roll:

Luckily, I'd gotten a thing in the mail back before our primaries about our voting location (even though I'm "unaffiliated" so I can't vote in those here), so that should be a good sign.

[ranger_scout]

ICE has released a bombshell report of the number of convicted felons that Harris and Biden have released in the United States from the border.

https://x.com/overton_news/status/1839725903313543632

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tens-thousands-illegal-immigrants-sexual-assault-homicide-convictions-roaming-us-streets

[Zulithe]

Yes, the border continues to be a problem. Yes, Kamala is going there Friday and will hopefully have some encouraging comments to share regarding the visit.

Important to remember that there was a bi-partisan bill that would have helped fix the border issues but Trump personally made phone calls to kill the bill (https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/09/10/harris-slams-trump-for-killing-border-bill-in-debate-here-are-the-facts/). He doesn't want the border fixed by anyone other than HIM. He wanted to run on it as a campaign issue. How is that governing for all Americans? It's not. It's evil and selfish.

Here is Senator Mitch McConnell talking about it. (https://x.com/harris_wins/status/1839685850315313254)

Lastly, of all the problems we have in this country -- and we do have a lot -- there are many problems people face each and every day. Lots of policies that impact your daily life that you may want to see addressed. But is the border one of them? It is an issue but it's not something impacting the day-to-day lives of most Americans. Republicans want to control what books you can read, and control what you do with your own body. That seems pretty important for most Americans on a day in and day out basis that everyone is impacted by.

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Here is a nice video of Walz talking about teachers with actor Anthony Ramos

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[ranger_scout]

Harris and her anti-Catholic views could be a problem for winning Pennsylvania, especially in Scranton.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/09/27/pennsylvania-harris-2024-election-00180099

[Zulithe]

Dave Bautista encouraging people to vote

https://x.com/DaveBautista/status/1840436661143937304

[Mayhem]

Trump labels Kamala as mentally disabled in several speeches over the weekend. Even top Republicans are decrying that as a step way too far...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/29/trump-republicans-mentally-disabled-comments-harris

[Barkworm]

One thing I don't get are the polls in North Carolina. For the presidential race they are super close but the governor election polls are pointing to a huge Democrat landslide. So you rightfully reject one piece of of human garbage but the other one is fine? Why?

[Andrew NDB]

Trump labels Kamala as mentally disabled in several speeches over the weekend.

She's hardly proving him wrong.

Dave Bautista encouraging people to vote

https://x.com/DaveBautista/status/1840436661143937304

F*** that guy. This is from the school of thought that if "Everyone" votes, that the democrats will always triumph.

[Zulithe]

F*** that guy. This is from the school of thought that if "Everyone" votes, that the democrats will always triumph.
A lot of dems do believe that yeah, just like it's believe that suppressing the vote tends to help Rs. Personally I think educating and encouraging people about voting helps everyone, and suppressing the vote hurts everyone too.

He wasn't telling anyone who to vote for, neither did Taylor Swift. The way I see it, if someone endorses someone you don't like, that's just more motivation for you to go vote for you who DO like. So it motivates both sides.

[Andrew NDB]

and suppressing the vote hurts everyone too.

But that's not a thing that actually happens.

[Barkworm]

But that's not a thing that actually happens.

Don't pretend you live in a real democracy.

[Andrew NDB]

Don't pretend you live in a real democracy.

I don't. I live in a republic.

[robertfiduciary]

Every one of your little opinions (if you don't think voter supression is an actual issue in America, you're obviously not paying attention) is just further proof why you obviously couldn't hack it in high school, dude.

I hope you're looking forward to whining and complaining about Democrats on the Internet for another four years! Congrats, I guess.

Or, to use your parlence, f*ck you, too.

But that's not a thing that actually happens.

[Mayhem]

Oh dear, Rob went overboard and got the temp ban hammer :o

Voter suppression does go on, in many subtle forms sadly. Ot attempts at least.

And if Kamala is mentally disabled, Trump is a drooling Alzheimer patient then… and some of his speeches don’t prove that wrong either.

He wasn't telling anyone who to vote for.
No, but the Harris Walz T-shirt he was wearing in the tweet is a big clue :lol:

[IndigoErth]

Trump labels Kamala as mentally disabled in several speeches over the weekend. Even top Republicans are decrying that as a step way too far...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/29/trump-republicans-mentally-disabled-comments-harris

He being someone whose flow of thought and speech resembles tangled up Christmas lights, he hasn't really any room to talk.

[The Deadman]

I bet Robert would be one of those dudes who would threaten to move to Canada if Trump won.

[Cowabung-Gal]

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[Barkworm]

I don't. I live in a republic.

Haha, what is this nonsense.

[Zulithe]

Georgians get fast Hurricane aid from Biden and Harris … and it’s driving Trump crazy

https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/09/georgians-get-fast-hurricane-aid-from-biden-and-harris-and-its-driving-trump-crazy.html

Former President Donald Trump told a different story when he landed there to survey the damage.

“The governor’s doing a very good job. He’s having a hard time getting the president on the phone,” Trump told reporters. “The federal government is not being responsive.”

It wasn’t true.

Here’s what Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp had to say about Biden and the feds:

“The president just called me yesterday afternoon. I missed him and called him right back and he just said, ‘Hey, what do you need?’ And I told him, ‘We got what we need. We’ll work through the federal process. He offered that if there’s other things we need just to call him directly, which I appreciate that,” Kemp said.

“We’ve had FEMA embedded with us since a day or two before the storm hit in our state operating center in Atlanta. We’ve got a great relationship with them,” he said.


Trump and Lies, name a more iconic duo.

[Mayhem]

Haha, what is this nonsense.
The governmental definition is "a presidential constitutional federal republic and liberal democracy with three separate branches: legislative, executive, and judicial."

So... both :D

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Trump and Lies, name a more iconic duo.

Biden and Genocide.

[Zulithe]

Biden and Genocide.
The notion that Trump is some kind of anti-war president is false. He escalated many conflicts resulting in more casualties than necessary and almost got us into a nuclear war with NK.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/04/18/donald-trump-presidency-anti-imperialist-militarism-war/

So unless you're willing to call Trump by the same term then I don't wanna hear it.

And all of this is before we even talk about his domestic policy with policing. He has repeatedly called for more violence from the state on our own citizens. Violent police interactions lead to death in a lot of cases.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

The notion that Trump is some kind of anti-war president is false. He escalated many conflicts resulting in more casualties than necessary and almost got us into a nuclear war with NK.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/04/18/donald-trump-presidency-anti-imperialist-militarism-war/

So unless you're willing to call Trump by the same term then I don't wanna hear it.

And all of this is before we even talk about his domestic policy with policing. He has repeatedly called for more violence from the state on our own citizens. Violent police interactions lead to death in a lot of cases.

Which conflicts specifically were escalated? The article is locked behind a paywall.

Also, "almost" getting us into a Nuclear war is nonsense. Trump has the best relationship with a North Korean leader out of any U.S. President.

[Bahamut810]

Which conflicts specifically were escalated? The article is locked behind a paywall.

Also, "almost" getting us into a Nuclear war is nonsense. Trump has the best relationship with a North Korean leader out of any U.S. President.

Thats mostly because he called them out on their BS. They claim to be Nuclear capable...but their indestructible navy is commonly caught by fishermen. I only recall them being able to launch a rocket a distance that would be partway into S Korea.

I think the first thing I thought Trump did right was when N Korea started saber rattling that they were going to start something and Trump just said "Bring it." Then they backed down. That was exactly what he needed to do to shut them up instead of trying to placate them.

[IMJ]

These guys will have you believe anything in their delusional Trump-hate.
"Trump will start a nuclear war!" - Trump's Presidency had NO wars.
"Trump will put us all in concentration camps!" - Trump's Presidency built America without isolation of Americans at all.
"Trump is violent!" - Liberals burn down cities.

Phony, disingenuous nonsense. The leftists on these boards are nothing more than rage-slaves that deploy sabotage-hate-commentary akin to the tactics that call-center employees use to complain about a "team mate" who might get promoted over them. All while delivering clown-world support to a maniac giggler who has been maneuvered into a Presidential run WITHOUT VOTES to get her there, and her stuttering V.P. who is currently getting his @$$ handed to him in a debate as I type this.

Sorry savants, the needs of the country are met by a guy like Trump. Your needs of inadequacy aren't Federal level problems. :lol: And it's hysterical when guys like Zulithe, Mayhem, and Leo..... errr RobertFiduciary get pushed back on - how badly you can see them begin to froth at the mouth with their replies when their old go-to's like "nice try" don't apply.

To be clear - the reason I don't respect your opinions are because they are nothing more than Trump-hate and moved by leftist rage-bait. Like... dare I say it? Peasant-thinkers. "F' the life-angry. I want the country to succeed and do well - bring Trump back!

[FredWolfLeonardo]

The debate tonight was just boring and hard to watch.

The Trump vs Kamala debate was full of great moments due to Trump's furious energy and controversial comments. This one was just so forgettable, and I have no special affinity for JD Vance despite loving Trump so much.

[Zulithe]

Trump ain't coming back. We'll see who's frothing on election night IMJ. Get mad about it. These "peasant thinkers" are gonna show you what's up.

JD Vance refuses to admit Trump lost in 2020.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/vance-refuses-to-say-trump-lost-in-2020-sparking-debate-s-biggest-clash/ar-AA1ryI5D

Overall yeah the VP debate was pretty boring, they usually are though.

[Mayhem]

Which conflicts specifically were escalated? The article is locked behind a paywall.
It isn't, you've just got to turn off your ad blocker (it's paywalled IF you have an ad blocker on).


Sen. J.D. Vance claimed in January that the most important part of Trump’s legacy is his foreign policy. “My entire adult lifetime has been shaped by presidents who threw America into unwise wars and failed to win them,” Vance wrote in a Wall Street Journal op-ed. “In Mr. Trump’s four years in office, he started no wars despite enormous pressure from his own party and even members of his own administration.”

Trump “has done more to restrain the US imperium than any politician in 75 years,” Christian Parenti wrote in Compact recently. This, Parenti claimed, is the real cause of his prosecution by the Manhattan district attorney. “Trump has been investigated, impeached, and indicted not because of the crimes of which he is accused,” wrote Parenti, “but because he has dared to oppose the imperial foreign policy favored by elites.”

Sohrab Ahmari, a former neoconservative now aligned with the Trumpist right, and one of the founders of Compact, followed up with a piece hailing Trump as “the one figure who in my lifetime has meaningfully rolled back the self-righteous imperium” scolding the anti-war left for not embracing Trump as its true hero. “The left suddenly turns ultra-principled when it comes to judging Trump’s record as an anti-imperial president: He wasn’t a total pacifist! He talked about ‘taking their oil.’ What about Yemen? Come on.”

These pieces foretell a larger effort to seduce the anti-war left with the idea that Trump, despite all evidence to the contrary, is an attractive partner for the project of reining in the American empire—that he really is the Outdoor Type. (Although for Vance, who went from outspoken Trump critic to cravenly falling in line when his political ambition required it, a better tune might be Stephen Stills’s “Love the One You’re With.”)

These pieces all rest heavily on the claim that Trump launched no new wars. That’s true as far as it goes. But it was certainly not for lack of trying. Trump might not have started any wars, but he massively inflamed existing ones—and came close to catastrophic new ones.

Let’s review the record. Despite inveighing against “endless wars,” Trump massively escalated the country’s existing wars in multiple theaters, leading to skyrocketing casualties. In Afghanistan, he substantially upped the amount of airstrikes, leading to a 330 percent increase in civilian deaths. In Yemen, he escalated both U.S. counterterrorism activities and support for the devastating Saudi-led war against the Houthis. According to the United Kingdom’s Bureau of Investigative Journalism, there were 2,243 drone strikes in just the first two years of Trump’s presidency, compared with 1,878 in the entire eight years of the Obama administration.

Trump also came very close to tweeting the country into a nuclear war with North Korea in late 2017 and early 2018, a completely self-inflicted incident that seems to have been bizarrely memory-holed. Trump “didn’t merely threaten to attack North Korea if it possessed the ability to strike the U.S.,” wrote the Intercept’s Jon Schwarz. “He ordered the Pentagon to develop new plans, over the resistance of then-Secretary of Defense James Mattis, to do so.” According to former Pentagon official and Asia security expert Van Jackson, who wrote a book about the crisis, “The world was closer … to nuclear war, at that time than any time, since the Cuban Missile Crisis. And it was totally avoidable.”

In 2018, Trump bowed to Washington’s neoconservative hawks and withdrew from a working nonproliferation agreement with Iran, resulting in Iran scaling up both its provocative activities in the region and its nuclear program. According to current U.S. assessments, Iran could now make enough fissile for one nuclear bomb in under two weeks, should it decide to do so. Under the agreement Trump abandoned, it would’ve taken Iran at least a year.

The list goes on: Trump put the U.S. on a path to “great-power competition” with China, incited a failed coup in Venezuela, and increased support for reckless, repressive clients around the world. Indeed, Trump was seen as such a dangerous interventionist that Congress passed the first war powers resolution in history to try to end his support for the Yemen war. Less than a year later, Congress passed a second resolution to brush him back from a potential war with Iran after he OK’d the assassination of Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Commander Qassem Soleimani. Both measures passed with Republican support, making opposition to Trump’s militarism one of the very few areas of bipartisan agreement during his administration.


Trump’s defenders praise him for demanding that NATO allies meet their spending obligations, but of course, he’s not the first to do that. Indeed, Trump’s argument against NATO and other partners, such as South Korea, was that they should pay up for the protection racket. Parenti noted that in a summer 2017 meeting with the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Trump “demanded to know why the United States wasn’t receiving free oil from the Middle East. ‘We spent $7 trillion; they’re ripping us off. … Where is the ****ing oil?’” Trump repeated this in October 2019, telling a meeting of police chiefs that “we’re keeping the oil” in northeastern Syria, where U.S. troops were deployed.

If you think that demanding tribute from partners and client states is “anti-imperialism,” then I’d suggest that word does not mean what you think it means. If anything, Trump was simply more honest about imperialism than the foreign-policy wonks who cloak their undying commitment to U.S. primacy in language about human rights and the “rules-based international order” or whatever. This is the hypocrisy that Trump exploited very effectively.

This is where we do need to give Trump some credit. When Vance wrote that “Donald Trump’s presidency marked the first real disruption to a failed consensus and the terrible consequences it wrought,” he was not totally wrong. As a candidate, Trump performed an important service for the country by helping reveal that much of the so-called “foreign-policy consensus” is held almost exclusively inside the Washington beltway. During the 2016 primary, he gored a number of presumably sacred cows, including memorably and correctly declaring in a primary debate that the Iraq War had been a disastrous mistake (while also lying about having opposed it). The American people had long come to the same conclusion. The only people in the country actually shocked by his assessment were onstage with him.

Acknowledging that Trump helped pry open a long overdue foreign-policy debate does not mean, however, that progressives should allow themselves to be seduced by the fanciful notion that a corrupt, misogynist racist is, either on purpose or by accident, either anti-war or anti-imperialist. Trump’s notorious comment about “shithole countries,” among many other bigoted remarks over the years, reveals a clear commitment to the very racial hierarchies that underlie imperialism: There are classes of people fit to rule and classes of people fit only to be ruled.

Imposing an “anti-war, anti-imperialist” frame on Trump’s foreign policy is simply an attempt to conceal its utter incoherence. Trump attacked China’s policies one moment, and then offered fulsome praise for Chinese President Xi Jinping the next. He tweeted threats at North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, ordered the Pentagon to draw up war plans, then proposed meeting for photos in Singapore. Trump has no coherent foreign-policy agenda because he has no coherent position on anything except his own self-glorification. Everything revolves around him and his ego, and that’s inherently incredibly dangerous.

President Joe Biden’s foreign-policy record has been a mixed bag, to put it gently, but let’s compare it to Trump’s: Unlike Trump, Biden didn’t just talk about withdrawing from Afghanistan; he did it. Unlike Trump, he didn’t massively increase the number of U.S. drone strikes; he massively decreased them. Instead of escalating support for the Saudi war in Yemen, he reduced support for it and appointed a special diplomatic envoy to help end it. Rather than support coups in Latin America, Biden has shown support for its democratically elected leaders. Years of organizing by progressives have helped him do this.

Has Biden gone as far as progressives want? No. Not even close. He has continued support for repressive partners, maintained inhumane immigration policies, and his human rights agenda is still largely comprised of statements about his human rights agenda. He broke his promise to rejoin the Iran nuclear agreement. While his rhetoric cautions against a new cold war with China, his policy is driving the United States steadily into one. But it’s worth noting that the areas where Biden has most disappointed progressives are those where he hasn’t differed from Trump enough. The idea that a Trump administration would be more receptive to progressives’ ideas is daft.

Donald Trump was right about Americans’ disenchantment with the existing foreign-policy establishment. The United States desperately needs a renewed global approach that is both more responsive to the American people’s needs and does not simply export violence and poverty onto the rest of the world. Progressives need to build and work with an effective transpartisan coalition to make that change. But progressives also need to be clear eyed about who their real allies in this project are, and which leaders are genuinely committed to that project, and who’s just trying to talk them into the sack.

[Barkworm]

These guys will have you believe anything in their delusional Trump-hate.
"Trump will start a nuclear war!" - Trump's Presidency had NO wars.
"Trump will put us all in concentration camps!" - Trump's Presidency built America without isolation of Americans at all.
"Trump is violent!" - Liberals burn down cities.

Phony, disingenuous nonsense. The leftists on these boards are nothing more than rage-slaves that deploy sabotage-hate-commentary akin to the tactics that call-center employees use to complain about a "team mate" who might get promoted over them. All while delivering clown-world support to a maniac giggler who has been maneuvered into a Presidential run WITHOUT VOTES to get her there, and her stuttering V.P. who is currently getting his @$$ handed to him in a debate as I type this.

Sorry savants, the needs of the country are met by a guy like Trump. Your needs of inadequacy aren't Federal level problems. :lol: And it's hysterical when guys like Zulithe, Mayhem, and Leo..... errr RobertFiduciary get pushed back on - how badly you can see them begin to froth at the mouth with their replies when their old go-to's like "nice try" don't apply.

To be clear - the reason I don't respect your opinions are because they are nothing more than Trump-hate and moved by leftist rage-bait. Like... dare I say it? Peasant-thinkers. "F' the life-angry. I want the country to succeed and do well - bring Trump back!

I don't see how your post is different from the hating and raging you accuse the other side of.

Apart from policies, the main problem people have with Trump (and that includes MANY conservatives) is that he is a disgusting human being. A phony, disingenuous, criminal scumbag. You know this. You just don't care. And this is where I question your morals.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Trump ain't coming back. We'll see who's frothing on election night IMJ. Get mad about it. These "peasant thinkers" are gonna show you what's up.

JD Vance refuses to admit Trump lost in 2020.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/vance-refuses-to-say-trump-lost-in-2020-sparking-debate-s-biggest-clash/ar-AA1ryI5D


That was wild. This debate was basically set up to be Vance's potential ticket to the nomination in 2028, but let's be real ... he's going to be used as the scapegoat for why they lose the election when the Trump camp turns on him.

I thought Tim did a great job last night.

[ranger_scout]

Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff has been accused of forcefully slapping his ex-girlfriend back in 2012 for flirting with a man at a ritzy gala.

https://nypost.com/2024/10/02/us-news/doug-emhoff-accused-of-forcefully-slapping-nyc-girlfriend-for-flirting-with-other-man-at-ritzy-gala-in-2012-report/

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Apart from policies, the main problem people have with Trump (and that includes MANY conservatives) is that he is a disgusting human being. A phony, disingenuous, criminal scumbag. You know this. You just don't care. And this is where I question your morals.

To be fair, in the eyes of many, being a "criminal" is one of Trump's appealing traits. A heroic outlaw, so to speak.

Many people hate the system and think it's legitimately an evil and satanic entity. Thus, when they see Trump get acused and convicted, it reinforces their belief that they are backing a man who is persecuted by and fighting against the corrupt establishment.

[CyberCubed]

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2023/trump-criminal-investigations-cases-tracker-list/

[Andrew NDB]

https://i.ibb.co/Kmtsqq5/461875300-8756791617678283-6954788558382878017-n.jpg

But seriously, an overall interesting debate. I think Walz seemed genuinely surprised that Vance wasn't really the least bit combative towards him and also he seemed completely befuddled every time his "It's all Trump's fault!" stuff didn't work out or land. Walz didn't look good out there beyond fleeting moments but honestly he held it together better than I thought he would but by no stretch of the imagination did he "win" the debate, or even come close. You could make an argument that Kamala "won" the debate with Trump, but this was a very different debate.

* I really wanted to see Vance attack Walz more, though I wonder if that's really what's best for Trump's chances. Still, at the VERY least Vance should have gone after Walz for publicly locking up everyone in his state and encouraging everyone there to snitch on their neighbors. Maybe about his open endorsement of "neighborly" socialism.

* There were moments when I admittedly thought Walz was going to rise above the tired and blind, party playbook "memorize these slogans" kind of stuff but then every time, nope, back to already debunked Project 2025 rubbish and stuff we've all heard a thousand times now from the same people that have probably convinced him will help in some way. Oh and now a bunch of cops died because of January 6th, apparently? Just pure lies.

* Jesus, you could tell it was taking those moderators everything to maintain their composure at times underneath those big fake smiles. Their fake, quiveringly "polite" efforts to tell Vance they had "so much to get to" and "we have to move on" (even at times when they barely had anything left) were pretty laughable.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Walz:


https://byronernest.blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/img_0561.jpg


Vance:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/89/b7/ae/89b7ae253789606fd0edc5b43a4432b8.jpg

(People are talking about Vance’s blue eyes lol)

A phony, disingenuous, criminal scumbag.

Welcome to the cesspool that is the US government.

[Zulithe]

Melania Trump passionately defends abortion rights in upcoming memoir

Melania Trump made an extraordinary declaration in an eagerly awaited memoir to be published a month from election day: she is a passionate supporter of a woman’s right to control her own body – including the right to abortion.

“It is imperative to guarantee that women have autonomy in deciding their preference of having children, based on their own convictions, free from any intervention or pressure from the government,” the Republican nominee’s wife writes, amid a campaign in which Donald Trump’s threats to women’s reproductive rights have played a central role.

“Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the power to determine what she does with her own body? A woman’s fundamental right of individual liberty, to her own life, grants her the authority to terminate her pregnancy if she wishes.

“Restricting a woman’s right to choose whether to terminate an unwanted pregnancy is the same as denying her control over her own body. I have carried this belief with me throughout my entire adult life.”

Melania Trump has rarely expressed political views in public. The book, which reveals the former first lady to be so firmly out of step with most of her own party, Melania, will be published in the US next Tuesday. The Guardian obtained a copy.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/02/melania-trump-memoir-defends-abortion-rights

How will the Republican party ever recover from this? Oh, right, they don't listen to or value anything women say, so probably pretty much immediately.

[Mayhem]

Unsurprisingly the numbers of medical emergencies and deaths resulting from lack of access to abortion facilities has gone up about 15% since the states enacted bans post Row vs Wade overturn.

In other news unsealed documents outline the various cases and evidence to be presented against Trump for the January 6th attacks. Pretty damning stuff, including literally not caring about Pence…

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/02/jack-smith-trump-election-brief-details-00182287?cid=apn

[FredWolfLeonardo]

How will the Republican party ever recover from this?

Melania's views are irrelevant and hold no power over the MAGA movement.


In other news unsealed documents outline the various cases and evidence to be presented against Trump for the January 6th attacks. Pretty damning stuff, including literally not caring about Pence

Nobody cares about Mike Pence.

[Andrew NDB]

Melania's views are irrelevant and hold no power over the MAGA movement.

Nobody cares about Mike Pence.

Both true. Like, are there really any RFK Jr. fans out there that care that his wife doesn't like Trump?

[ranger_scout]

Melania Trump passionately defends abortion rights in upcoming memoir



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/02/melania-trump-memoir-defends-abortion-rights

How will the Republican party ever recover from this? Oh, right, they don't listen to or value anything women say, so probably pretty much immediately.

First Ladies Barbara Bush and Laura Bush both believed in abortion, but I don't think the latter revealed her thoughts on it until she was interviewed by Larry King back in 2010.

[Andrew NDB]

And Trump himself was always a big abortion proponent until he needed republican backing. But I don't think he's lying when he's saying he's not a fan of it in the eighth or ninth month, either.

[Zulithe]

JD Vance Says Trump Won The 2020 Election, Won’t Answer If He Will Concede If ‘Opponent Wins More Votes’

GOP vice presidential candidate JD Vance was grilled by comedian Jason Selvig about who actually won the 2020 presidential election in a clip posted to X on Thursday.

Selvig, who is best known for his comedic man-on-the-street interviews, asked Vance repeatedly if Donald Trump won the 2020 election – a hot topic surrounding Vance after Tuesday’s debate in which Vance said he would have helped in Trump’s “alternative electors’ scheme to overturn the election.

“Who won the 2020 election? Could you just answer? Did Donald Trump win?” Selvig asked Vance as he walked.

“Yes,” Vance clearly replied.
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/jd-vance-says-trump-won-the-2020-election-wont-answer-if-he-will-concede-if-opponent-wins-more-votes/

OF COURSE this is what Vance 'believes' -- Trump straight up made sure his next VP pick would not be a repeat of the Pence situation. He wanted a 'yes man' in all ways. The evidence has been scrutinized with ten thousand magnifying glasses for the last four years and no expert disagrees that TRUMP LOST. Truly pathetic.

[Cowabung-Gal]

RmZPFhjN21A

Vivek is right, she is most likely gonna throw Biden under the bus over this.

UKafSjeB4Dk

[FredWolfLeonardo]

no expert disagrees that TRUMP LOST.

"Experts" in politics have lost all credibility a long time ago. A doctor offers us treatment, a builder builds for us, but these useless mouths offer us nothing.

[Zulithe]

Election-denying ex-county clerk sentenced to 9 years for tampering with election equipment
A former Colorado county clerk who promoted 2020 election conspiracy theories was sentenced Thursday to nine years behind bars after being convicted of charges including official misconduct in connection with a security breach of Mesa County’s voting system.

Tina Peters was convicted of four felony and three misdemeanor charges in August for using another person’s security badge to allow someone associated with MyPillow founder Mike Lindell, a prominent election denier and ally of former President Donald Trump, access to county election equipment involving Dominion Voting Systems.

The county’s machines had to be replaced afterwards when data, including passwords for the machines, was posted online. Peters claimed she didn’t know the information would become public.

“Your lies are well-documented and these convictions are serious,” Judge Matthew Barrett told Peters before he handed down his sentence for the 2021 security breach, calling her a “charlatan” who used her time in office “to peddle snake oil.”

The judge told Peters she had no consideration for how her lies had harmed her county and her colleagues. "The damage is immeasurable," Barrett said. "I'm convinced you would do it all over again if you could."

He said every time one of her conspiratorial claims "gets refuted, shown to be false, another tale is weaved."

"You're as defiant a defendant as I've ever seen," Barrett said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/rcna173807


"NOOOOO But it's the Democrats who are the cheaters!"

[Andrew NDB]

"Here's examples of the left, its friends in the media, and people on the ground operating in an organized fashion to directly interfere in the results of a presidential election."

"Nah, pffft. That's nothing. You're being dumb."

"Here's an example of like one guy on the right doing something wacky once."

"OOOOOOOOOOOHHHH!!! SEE!!! Totally the same thing, in fact much worse!"

[Zulithe]

THE BOSS -- Bruce Springsteen himself -- has some words to share in new video.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DArLPGnIJD3/

[TonySiegel]

THE BOSS -- Bruce Springsteen himself -- has some words to share in new video.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DArLPGnIJD3/

The BOSS has spoken...

Remember this though?

https://time.com/4514350/david-duke-donald-trump-senate-louisiana/

I will be glad when this chapter in our country's history is over...

[ranger_scout]

Doug Emhoff is denying that he slapped an ex-girlfriend back in 2012.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/emhoff-denies-report-he-slapped-ex-girlfriend-outside-ritzy-overseas-movie-event

[Zulithe]

The BOSS has spoken...

Remember this though?

https://time.com/4514350/david-duke-donald-trump-senate-louisiana/

I will be glad when this chapter in our country's history is over...
I very much do. It's just difficult to keep on top of every crappy thing associated with him since new ones join the pile every day it seems.

I'll also be glad once we can turn the page in history!
Doug Emhoff is denying that he slapped an ex-girlfriend back in 2012.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/emhoff-denies-report-he-slapped-ex-girlfriend-outside-ritzy-overseas-movie-event
Tabloid reporting, but if it's true then the woman herself should come forward. This report is coming from unnamed 'friends' and is being reported by right-leaning tabloids and publications. Let's see more evidence.

[ranger_scout]

Even CNN is reporting about Tim Walz's COVID-19 fraud.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/04/politics/walz-audits-fraud-accountability-invs/index.html

[Mayhem]

For everyone bitching about the support for Helene victims (the $750 FEMA payment is only the start not the only help) because the money “has gone to dealing with immigrants” I present…

In 2019, the Trump administration, in the middle of hurricane season, told Congress that it was taking $271 million from DHS programs, including $155 million from the disaster fund, to pay for immigration detention space and temporary hearing locations for asylum seekers who have been forced to wait in Mexico. “The U.S. is facing a security and humanitarian crisis on the Southern border,” the administration said in its notice that it was redirecting the funds.
Not just the democrats then…

[ranger_scout]

Vice President Harris was floundering after a teleprompter malfunctioned during a rally.

https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1842328939894866032

[Zulithe]

WSJ: Trump’s Plan Boosts Budget Deficits by $7.5 Trillion, Double Harris’s Proposal
WASHINGTON—Donald Trump’s flurry of recent tax-cut promises pushed his fiscal plan deep into red ink, and he would increase budget deficits by more than twice as much as Democratic rival Kamala Harris would, according to a new study that is among the most comprehensive estimates to date of the candidates’ proposals.

Trump’s combination of tax cuts, tariff increases, military expansion and mass deportations would widen budget deficits by an estimated $7.5 trillion over the next decade, according to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, or CRFB, a nonpartisan group that favors lower deficits. Meanwhile, Vice President Harris’s plans—social-policy spending, middle-class tax cuts and tax increases on corporations and high-income households—would increase deficits by $3.5 trillion.
https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-plan-boosts-budget-deficits-by-7-5-trillion-double-harris-proposal-526effd2

Elon Musk’s Mom Goes ‘Dark MAGA’ Too With Wild Illegal Voting Rant
“The Democrats have given us another option. You don’t have to register to vote,” she wrote on the app Saturday. “On Election Day, have 10 fake names, go to 10 polling booths and vote 10 times. That’s 100 votes, and it’s not illegal. Maybe we should work the system too.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-mom-goes-dark-172456150.html?guccounter=1

http://i.imgur.com/VWIoUqVh.png (https://imgur.com/VWIoUqV)

Musk is straight up... EMBARRASSING.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-rally-video-elon-musk-jumping-walz-harris-weird-b2624843.html

[Autbot_Benz]

WSJ: Trump’s Plan Boosts Budget Deficits by $7.5 Trillion, Double Harris’s Proposal

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-plan-boosts-budget-deficits-by-7-5-trillion-double-harris-proposal-526effd2

Elon Musk’s Mom Goes ‘Dark MAGA’ Too With Wild Illegal Voting Rant

https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-mom-goes-dark-172456150.html?guccounter=1

http://i.imgur.com/VWIoUqVh.png (https://imgur.com/VWIoUqV)

Musk is straight up... EMBARRASSING.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-rally-video-elon-musk-jumping-walz-harris-weird-b2624843.html

Dark Maga more like Dork Maga.

Also Trump says it’s “very dangerous” for Kamala Harris voters to identify themselves because they’ll “get hurt”

https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1843020699092295724

[Cowabung-Gal]

For everyone bitching about the support for Helene victims

Forgive us for voicing our concerns, King George.

[Mayhem]

Forgive us for voicing our concerns, King George.
More a case of whatever you fling at the Democrats, the Republicans have almost certainly done it already…

[Cowabung-Gal]

More a case of whatever you fling at the Democrats, the Republicans have almost certainly done it already…

How about, a perfect example of why you shouldn’t waste your time brown-nosing the government?

[Mayhem]

How about, a perfect example of why you shouldn’t waste your time brown-nosing the government?
And yet, all the worshipers of the false orange idol would say different about how he’s going to save us all again :roll:

[ranger_scout]

Vice president Harris had another word salad.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/harris-word-salad-answer-israel-alliance-confounds-social-media-users-someone-please-interpret

[Andrew NDB]

The interpretation is: "I don't want to piss off any of the pro-Hamas voters but I also don't want to act like Israel isn't an ally and completely lose the Jewish vote so I'll just try and confuse the interviewer and hope they'll change subjects and nobody notices. HEEHEEHEEE."

[Cowabung-Gal]

And yet, all the worshipers of the false orange idol would say different about how he’s going to save us all again :roll:

And what are the worshippers of Biden’s cackling sidekick saying? :lol:

[Zulithe]

This November, let's all make sure Elon gets properly and deservedly F'd. We have our chance not to stick it to just one, but TWO of the biggest loons on Earth.

The chat began with Carlson wondering what would happen to Musk if Trump loses, with both beginning to cackle.

'If Trump loses, you're f***ed, dude,' Carlson said, with Elon laughing along and agreeing.

'If he loses, I'm f***ed,' he affirmed. 'How long do you think my prison sentence is going to be? Will I see my children? I don't know.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13934743/Elon-Musk-tells-Tucker-Carlson-hes-f-ed-Trump-loses-election-long-think-prison-sentence-going-be.html

Trump backs out of 60 Mins interview because he's against being fact checked. The horror. Facts! Stay away!

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/scott-pelley-reveals-trump-campaign-demanded-apology-and-complained-about-fact-checking-before-canceling-60-minutes-interview/

[Cowabung-Gal]

This November, let's all make sure Elon gets properly and deservedly F'd.

Wait. Is that a threat? Against a person who has autism? Isn’t that a form of ableism?

Like women, people with autism are a protected class, aren’t they?

[Barkworm]

I noticed that all autistic Dromers support Trump, just like Elon Musk who is one of the most famous people with Aspergers right now. Is there any explanation for this? What does Trump offer for people with this kind of disability?

[Zulithe]

I noticed that all autistic Dromers support Trump, just like Elon Musk who is one of the most famous people with Aspergers right now. Is there any explanation for this? What does Trump offer for people with this kind of disability?
Trump has openly mocked the disabled. Multiple times, including calling harris mentally disabled herself which is a whole new level of disrespect towards that community. Can you imagine Harris ever doing something so cold and cruel? She would never be able to live it down. But the problem with Donald is people just can't keep up with the insulting things he does. The moment one happens it's on to the next one, and the media and the populace can't keep up because one just gets buried under the next one. At a certain point fatigue sets in and people just check out and don't care what insulting thing he does next.

I'm in favor of pushing back against that madness. It is not normal or becoming of any adult let alone someone who wants to lead us. We can't let that become normalized.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I noticed that all autistic Dromers support Trump, just like Elon Musk who is one of the most famous people with Aspergers right now. Is there any explanation for this? What does Trump offer for people with this kind of disability?

Two of my close Autistic friends support Trump quite passionately.

I think its because conservatively minded Austistic people aren't going to diplomatically deal with an overwhelmingly liberal society.

[Mayhem]

I'm partly on the spectrum, no surprise there probably, and you know my views so... not everyone ;)

And what are the worshippers of Biden’s cackling sidekick saying? :lol:
I wouldn't know per se, I can't hear a lot of them over the rabid chanting from the other side saying America is screwed if we don't elect Trump :roll: thing is, all I see are posts attacking Kamala directly about who or what she is, barely anything against, you know, actual policy. Much like everyone seems to mention her laugh, just like yourself... not got anything better?

Trump backs out of 60 Mins interview because he's against being fact checked. The horror. Facts! Stay away!
It's funny how those who lie the most are most against fact checking...

Wait. Is that a threat? Against a person who has autism? Isn’t that a form of ableism?
Didn't stop Trump... cos he don't care.

[CyberCubed]

I noticed that all autistic Dromers support Trump, just like Elon Musk who is one of the most famous people with Aspergers right now. Is there any explanation for this? What does Trump offer for people with this kind of disability?

I've actually noticed that on other forums/social media. A LOT of autistic people support Trump. I'm honestly not sure why, I think it's his type of personality that just draws them to him.

[ranger_scout]

Vice President Harris also kept dodging questions about the border during her 60 Minutes interview.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/60-minutes-asks-harris-whether-mistake-biden-admin-go-soft-border-vp-repeatedly-dodges

[Zulithe]

"In one scene, Woodward recounts a moment at Mar-a-Lago where Trump tells a senior aide to leave the room so “he could have what he said was a private phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin."

"According to Trump’s aide, there have been multiple phone calls between Trump and Putin, maybe as many as seven in the period since Trump left the White House in 2021"

Why has Trump kept having private 1:1 calls with Putin as a private citizen?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/08/politics/bob-woodward-book-war-joe-biden-putin-netanyahu-trump/index.html

[Andrew NDB]

Trump has openly mocked the disabled. Multiple times, including calling harris mentally disabled herself which is a whole new level of disrespect towards that community.

I'm glad you agree she's in that community.

[ranger_scout]

Very sick! The porn industry supports vice president Harris.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/07/us/politics/porn-actors-project-2025-ad.html

[Autbot_Benz]

Very sick! The porn industry supports vice president Harris.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/07/us/politics/porn-actors-project-2025-ad.html

well no **** they support Harris. Republicans/Project 2025 wants to make Porn Illegal and Imprison the people who make Porn :roll:

[Zulithe]

Very sick! The porn industry supports vice president Harris.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/07/us/politics/porn-actors-project-2025-ad.html
what's sick is all the conservative men who pretend to hate porn, gay and trans people, sex workers, BDSM and all that stuff while engaging in these things themselves. The more someone rages against these things the more they are showing the world they have a lot to hide. We all see through it. Couldn't be more transparent and yet they think the hate parade is working. The only people they are fooling is their beards -- I mean, wives... part of the time, anyway.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

"In one scene, Woodward recounts a moment at Mar-a-Lago where Trump tells a senior aide to leave the room so “he could have what he said was a private phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin."

"According to Trump’s aide, there have been multiple phone calls between Trump and Putin, maybe as many as seven in the period since Trump left the White House in 2021"

Why has Trump kept having private 1:1 calls with Putin as a private citizen?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/08/politics/bob-woodward-book-war-joe-biden-putin-netanyahu-trump/index.html

*Support for Trump intensifies*

I told you that men like Putin, Xi Jinping and Kim Jong Um respect him.

well no **** they support Harris. Republicans/Project 2025 wants to make Porn Illegal and Imprison the people who make Porn :roll:

With porn banned and harsh penalties in place which will make people too scared to access it, they will seek sexual satisfaction via more normal means like marriage, and the increased marriages will bring about more children to benefit the nation and make it younger, healthier and more genetically superior. Win win.

[Autbot_Benz]

*Support for Trump intensifies*

I told you that men like Putin, Xi Jinping and Kim Jong Um respect him.



With porn banned and harsh penalties in place which will make people too scared to access it, they will seek sexual satisfaction via more normal means like marriage, and the increased marriages will bring about more children to benefit the nation and make it younger, healthier and more genetically superior. Win win.

https://i.imgur.com/RmP8Rlf.gif

[Cowabung-Gal]

I wouldn't know per se, I can't hear a lot of them over the rabid chanting from the other side saying America is screwed if we don't elect Trump.

Don’t give me that. You do know. “Project 2025, reproductive rights, threat to democracy, Russia Russia Russia, JD Vance’s beard is anti-feminist, etc. etc.”

not got anything better?

How about Establishment prostitute (or “prostitutor” as Walz himself put it) who will say what you want to hear as long as you throw money at her, if you can even understand her during one of her word salads? And who grew up in a middle-class household? :lol:

If you want to talk about her policies, they include federalized healthcare, reparations, and price control, which pretty much screams communism. She already is letting the so-called “anti-Zionism” mass control her actions by choosing Walz over Shapiro, who probably could’ve done much better at the debate.

I could give you a list, but you’d most likely dismiss it all as Russia propaganda. It’s like arguing with a mule and is just as exhausting. So…whatever.

3yX_1gJ_51M

Didn't stop Trump... cos he don't care.

“Yeah, but Trump does it too.” I thought the whole goal here was to be the complete opposite of Trump.

[Mayhem]

Pornhub released stats sometime not that long ago that showed red states not only consumed more porn than blue states, but they were into more gay and trans porn as well. Either there’s a lot of people not wanting to come out from fear, or those who are railing against it are in fact using that to hide their perversions. I think I know which my money is on :lol:

JD Vance’s beard is anti-feminist, etc. etc.”
Well that’s a new one on me :D

If you want to talk about her policies, they include federalized healthcare, reparations, and price control, which pretty much screams communism.
Looks down checklist… well we have all three of those here to some degree, and last I checked, we are not a communist society. Far from it. So you like having to pay thousands of dollars for medical care even when you’re “subsidised” by expensive insurance policies? Gotcha! Socialism isn’t a dirty word, the definition of Alanis Morisette irony are the boomers bitching about libtards while masterbating furiously over the Master Orange boomer and collecting their social security and Medicare funding.

“Yeah, but Trump does it too.” I thought the whole goal here was to be the complete opposite of Trump.
Ah I see, so when Republicans mud sling and slander it’s perfectly acceptable, but as soon as the Democrats return fire, it’s unfair? Gotcha!

[ranger_scout]

CNN senior data reporter Harry Enten said that if polling errors were off like they were in 2020, then Trump will win in a blowout.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/2024-polling-errors-mirror-those-2020-election-trump-wins-blowout-cnn-data-guru-says

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6362999165112

[Cowabung-Gal]

Socialism isn’t a dirty word

Until the authorities come knocking at your door. Sure, you get free stuff, but at what cost?

Gotcha!

Gotcha!

https://media.tenor.com/9vCTssyMEpwAAAAi/gotcha-blue-stars-around-gotcha-in-yellow-bubble-letters.gif

Well that’s a new one on me :D

Brought to you by Politico. :lol:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/25/jd-vance-beard-00170761

Ah I see, so when Republicans mud sling and slander it’s perfectly acceptable, but as soon as the Democrats return fire, it’s unfair? Gotcha!

It’s never acceptable when either party does it, so why should the Democrats get a pass? Because they’re the “good guys” who are looking out for the little guys? Because they’re targeting Trump and his supporters? It just proves that they are total hypocrites. Even Chris Cuomo of all people is starting to call them out.

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[Mayhem]

Until the authorities come knocking at your door. Sure, you get free stuff, but at what cost?
I probably lose about the same percentage of my pay to taxes as you do. Our VAT (sales tax) is generally higher though, but it depends on the item.

It’s never acceptable when either party does it, so why should the Democrats get a pass?
Because Trump and the Republicans seemingly do? Except for his comment about Kamala being mentally disabled, that caused a number of shudders inside the party.

[Zulithe]

Trump Is Running a Disinformation Campaign, Not a Political Campaign
He’s not just lying. He’s creating an alternative reality.

As Donald Trump attempts to return to the White House, he is not operating a political campaign as much as mounting a disinformation campaign.

The rough and tumble of American politics often includes false statements and lies—what once was called spin. Unfortunately, there has always been a degree of tolerance for campaign dissembling. Trump is no stranger to this mundane practice. He freely tosses falsehoods at the electorate. The economy when he was president was the best ever. He did a great job on Covid. The current rate of inflation is the worst in US history. The US has provided more aid to Ukraine than Europe. Every Democrat and legal scholar wanted Roe v. Wade overturned. He was the smartest and most accomplished president the country has ever seen. And so on. It’s absurd braggadocio and a firehose of supposed but untrue facts—spewed to a degree far beyond what previous presidential candidates attempted to get away with.

Yet Trump’s dishonesty goes further than the usual campaign lying. He concocts and promotes utterly false narratives to shape voters’ perceptions of fundamental realities. His campaign is a full-fledged project to pervert how Americans view the nation and the world, an extensive propaganda campaign designed to fire up fears and intensify anxieties that Trump can then exploit to collect votes. And the political media world has yet to come to terms with the fact that Trump is heading a disinformation crusade more likely to be found in an authoritarian state than a vibrant democracy. This is unlike other presidential campaigns in modern American history—other than his own previous efforts.
more: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/10/donald-trump-is-running-a-disinformation-campaign/

Harris proposes Medicare pay for home health care for first time

Vice President Kamala Harris on Tuesday proposed broadening Medicare benefits to cover home health care for the first time, as she seeks to appeal to Americans caring for both children and aging parents.

“There are so many people in our country who are right in the middle. They’re taking care of their kids and they’re taking care of their aging parents, and it’s just almost impossible to do it all, especially if they work,” Harris said on ABC’s “The View,” part of a media blitz this week that’s putting her in front of friendlier interviewers with more targeted audiences.

Harris, who has promised on the campaign trail to improve long-term care, said the proposal will allow aging Americans to keep their dignity and help families with the emotional, financial and physical burdens of caring for their elders.

Nearly one-quarter of American adults are in the “sandwich generation,” which contains many remaining undecided voters, according to Harris campaign data. More than 105 million Americans are acting as caregivers, according to the campaign.
more: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/10/08/politics/harris-home-health-care-medicare-proposal

The medicare thing would be absolutely massive. That this is not already covered is a shame on our nation. Good ol American exceptionalism. The country that does as little for its citizens as it can get away with. If more Americans knew how good most Europeans have it, man oh man... That this is not the sort of thing we are all collectively fighting for boggles my mind.

[ranger_scout]

Tim Walz wants to get rid of the Electoral College. That's a very bad idea.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tim-walz-calls-elimination-electoral-college-california-fundraiser-says-it-needs-go

[Zulithe]

give me a reason why getting rid of the EC is a "very bad idea"

Here is some reading for you (https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/electoral-college-explained)


‘They’re just trying to hide him now’: Trump’s public appearances plummet as oldest candidate ever

video - https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/watch/harris-appears-on-the-view-proposing-to-expand-medicare-to-at-home-care-221243461948

[Barkworm]

The electoral college is a complete joke and an embarrassment to any nation that considers itself a true democracy (right, right, it's a 'REPUBLIC', lol). Of course it's not the only area where the US fails as democratic country but it's probably the most obvious.

[ranger_scout]

give me a reason why getting rid of the EC is a "very bad idea"

Here is some reading for you (https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/electoral-college-explained)


‘They’re just trying to hide him now’: Trump’s public appearances plummet as oldest candidate ever

video - https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/watch/harris-appears-on-the-view-proposing-to-expand-medicare-to-at-home-care-221243461948

The electoral college is a complete joke and an embarrassment to any nation that considers itself a true democracy (right, right, it's a 'REPUBLIC', lol). Of course it's not the only area where the US fails as democratic country but it's probably the most obvious.

If politicians get rid of the Electoral College, then the Democrats would win every election due to the large number of people who live in the states of California and New York.

In other news, 60 Minutes aired two different answers vice president Harris gave to the same question.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cbs-60-minutes-airs-two-different-answers-from-vp-harris-same-question

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, everything would just be a majority vote (AKA "mob rule"). Like if most everybody in a state lives in an apartment, and they pose a "Ban all garages" vote and everyone goes, "Well I don't have a garage. F*** those guys in houses with garages" and it just gets passed and then it effects even farmers out in the countryside with garages on the side of their barns. Or people without boats voting against people bringing boats into lakes. Or non-smokers vs. smokers. Or anything. There has to be checks and balances, that's always been the point. And it is a republic, and for good reason.

[ResidentEvil7]

What democrats don't understand about the Electoral College is that if without it, major cities like Chicago, Los Angeles and New York, where populations are biggest would be deciding who the president is, and not allowed to give rural residents a voting say. If we were to choose the president under the popular vote, then the Democrats would be president (rulers) of America in every election since 1992. At least with the Electoral College, it gives a fair say to those outside of metropolitan areas.

[Andrew NDB]

It's mostly people from other countries who don't "Get it" because they've never known anything other than mob rule and can't possibly fathom why things wouldn't just be "wull... why shouldn't the majority just always get their way?"... or they're just the kind of leftists over here who really only believe in getting what they want at all costs. "Progress" at any cost, and so on.

[Mayhem]

I think I proposed an idea similar to here if the EC was removed, whereby the country is divided into areas of roughly the same population (so they would vary in size depending on where they were) and those are the new "districts". More districts won than the opposition, then that party's candidate is President.

The one downside is then you get into the disputes about where the boundary lines for the disticts are drawn... or redrawn. But at least it would mean more likelihood of your vote counting for something instead of being in most of the "safe" states in the country where it does not if you're the "other party".

[Barkworm]

Yeah, everything would just be a majority vote (AKA "mob rule"). Like if most everybody in a state lives in an apartment, and they pose a "Ban all garages" vote and everyone goes, "Well I don't have a garage. F*** those guys in houses with garages" and it just gets passed and then it effects even farmers out in the countryside with garages on the side of their barns. Or people without boats voting against people bringing boats into lakes. Or non-smokers vs. smokers. Or anything. There has to be checks and balances, that's always been the point. And it is a republic, and for good reason.

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. First, republics and democracies are not something that's mutually exclusive. There are republics that are democracies and some that are not. Like... ancient Rome? The US is supposedly a democratic republic but in a two-party society where districts are gerrymandered to hell and the supreme court has become a partisan tool, it's more a parody of a democracy. Or a party dictatorship.

The foreigners don't get it? Maybe try and get educated about how other democracies work instead of talking out of your ass.

[Zulithe]

Bark isn't all bark. Got some bite too. You pretty much said it all so moving on...

Stern posts full Kamal interview

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[Andrew NDB]

Man, Howard has had such a heel turn since COVID. Such a disappointment. He's become the very opposite of everything he was in the 90s, everything and every fan that made him who he is. Total joke. I think he still doesn't even leave the house, really.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. First, republics and democracies are not something that's mutually exclusive. There are republics that are democracies and some that are not. Like... ancient Rome? The US is supposedly a democratic republic but in a two-party society where districts are gerrymandered to hell and the supreme court has become a partisan tool, it's more a parody of a democracy. Or a party dictatorship.

The foreigners don't get it? Maybe try and get educated about how other democracies work instead of talking out of your ass.

It's just easier and more mentally satisfying to say that Democracy is a scam altogether.

[Zulithe]

People evolve.

Trump has also been on Howard's show many, many, many times. So It's not like he hasn't done both sides.

https://www.trumponstern.com/

I really liked Howard's interview with Kamala. Hope people watch it. Some people are still on the "we don't know who she really is" bs, well, that's on you. Get out there and listen to her if you care about learning who she is. She's telling you. A lot of personal anecdotes in this interview.

[Andrew NDB]

Trump has also been on Howard's show many, many, many times.

Yeah, funny you mention that. When was the last time?

Everybody loved Trump before he was president.

I really liked Howard's interview with Kamala. Hope people watch it.

Kamala getting spoon-fed softball questions from a "friendly." Of course you liked it.

[Zulithe]

I learned quite a bit more about her in the interview honestly, so I liked it for that mostly.

[Cowabung-Gal]

I know this clip is old, but :lol:

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https://media1.tenor.com/m/lPhe8MyW8zcAAAAC/hercules-counting.gif


https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/usa-funded-both-sides-war-which-country.jpg?w=530&ssl=1

https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/x-telling-kids-harris-walz-napolean-dynamite.jpg?w=545&ssl=1

[Mayhem]

Everybody loved Trump before he was president. .
Not really, certainly not me or the people I knew who had dealings with him in the 90s and 2000s.

[CyberCubed]

Trump was known as a sleezy business man in the 80's and 90's. He went bankrupt several times.

[Prowler]

I've never heard of Trump when I was a kid. First time I heard of him was when he showed up on WWE Raw in early 2007, with him challenging Vince McMahon for a fight at WrestleMania that year with each man picking their own representative. Trump actually played a "face"(good guy) in that feud,which is odd looking back. But hey, McMahon is not a good person either lol

Trump was already famous in USA in the 80s and 90s? Not surprised. But I don't think he was known outside USA until he showed up in WWE, at least.

[joe-eyeball]

Well all the whiners complaining about the electoral college just need to convince two thirds of the house and senate to propose a constitutional amendment and then get 38 out of 50 states to ratify it! Good luck! Should be piece of cake:tlol:

[Zulithe]

Well all the whiners complaining about the electoral college just need to convince two thirds of the house and senate to propose a constitutional amendment and then get 38 out of 50 states to ratify it! Good luck! Should be piece of cake:tlol:

is that supposed to be insightful? You are just telling us the reason why we can't fix anything in this country, not just the EC.

Inequities are literally codified into USA law, and there's not enough agreement among states to fix them, big surprise. HUGE SHOCK that inequities that benefit what a state or party wants don't get fixed because it directly benefits them at the expense of real fairness. That's America for ya. But hey, all Empires eventually fall, so it won't last forever.

And no, that's not the only way. There are other things we can do in the meantime. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact)

[Barkworm]

No real change will ever be made as long as there is a two party system. That‘s the first thing that has to go, everything else would naturally follow.

[Mayhem]

Trump was already famous in USA in the 80s and 90s? Not surprised. But I don't think he was known outside USA until he showed up in WWE, at least.
He appeared in Home Alone 2 in 1992. We had the original Apprentice show broadcast here (probably because it was mostly created by a British production compnay) before our own version launched the following year. So many people in the UK knew who Trump was in the early 2000s, and I knew before this from talking to folks I knew in NYC who had met and worked with him.

[Zulithe]

brain worms.

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[Prowler]

He appeared in Home Alone 2 in 1992. We had the original Apprentice show broadcast here (probably because it was mostly created by a British production compnay) before our own version launched the following year. So many people in the UK knew who Trump was in the early 2000s, and I knew before this from talking to folks I knew in NYC who had met and worked with him.

He only shows up for what, 6 seconds on screen? It's not like he played a significant role in the movie. Ofc I watched the Home Alone movies when I was a kid, but I did not recognise or remember Trump when, several years later, I saw him on Monday Night Raw. Same goes for most people, I'm guessing. You might remember the main actors of movies you watched in the past, but do you remember all of the ones who played tertiary roles and only had 5-10 seconds of screen time?

He deifnitely did not become a global household name until 2015-2016 or so.

[ranger_scout]

Vice President Harris stumbled during a live stream about Hurricane Milton.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vp-harris-covers-mouth-says-its-live-broadcast-after-stumbling-through-hurricane-milton-speech

[ZariusTwo]

Vice President Harris stumbled during a live stream about Hurricane Milton.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vp-harris-covers-mouth-says-its-live-broadcast-after-stumbling-through-hurricane-milton-speech

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[Zulithe]

Well well well!

Newsweek: Donald Trump Says Project 2025 Author 'Coming on Board' If Elected

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-says-project-2025-author-coming-onboard-if-elected-1966334

[Andrew NDB]

Well well well!

Newsweek: Donald Trump Says Project 2025 Author 'Coming on Board' If Elected

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-says-project-2025-author-coming-onboard-if-elected-1966334

It's not a novel, he was one of many contributors. And there isn't ALL bad stuff in there. Probably 75% of it is pretty sound but as a whole it was rightly discarded.

[Zulithe]

"Project 2025 is fake"
"Trump says he doesn't know what 2025 is"
"Trump disavows anything to do with 2025 and anyone associated with it"
"It's only one of the authors in the cabinet" < YOU ARE HERE
"It's only two of the authors in the cabinet"
"it's only half of the authors in the cabinet"
"It was the plan all along"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

[Mayhem]

There’s an edition of Question Time (a political UK discussion TV program) coming from Philadelphia, and it’s readily obvious that the person making the most sense wasn’t born in the US :roll::lol:

Also demonstrating that most of those in the audience favouring Trump know he’s a shitbag and are still voting for him…

It's not a novel, he was one of many contributors. And there isn't ALL bad stuff in there. Probably 75% of it is pretty sound but as a whole it was rightly discarded.
Most of the contributors are ex Trump advisors and staffers so, in for one, in for them all…

[Mayhem]

brain worms.

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This, so much this. Lie enough and suddenly when you want people to believe you (boy who cried wolf here) they won’t.

Weird, one of the Republican guys speaking in the video was on the Question Time panel.

[Coola Yagami]

So apparently the MAGA peeps think the Democrats are using a ****ing WEATHER CONTROLLING MACHINE to purposely strike Republican heavy states to affect the election????? What the flying ****?????

[Autbot_Benz]

So apparently the MAGA peeps think the Democrats are using a ****ing WEATHER CONTROLLING MACHINE to purposely strike Republican heavy states to affect the election????? What the flying ****?????

That was started by Jewish Space Lasers herself Marjorie Taylor Green. She needs to be strait jacketed and thrown in a looney bin

[FredWolfLeonardo]

So apparently the MAGA peeps think the Democrats are using a ****ing WEATHER CONTROLLING MACHINE to purposely strike Republican heavy states to affect the election????? What the flying ****?????

I have nothing to say about weather control thing but stranger things happen in real life.

That was started by Jewish Space Lasers herself Marjorie Taylor Green. She needs to be strait jacketed and thrown in a looney bin

But if her side wins, then it will be the leftists who will be thrown into the looney bin. Either way, history will be written by the victor.

[Barkworm]

That was started by Jewish Space Lasers herself Marjorie Taylor Green. She needs to be strait jacketed and thrown in a looney bin
Remember when Todd Akin talked about ‘legitimate rape‘ and was crushed in the election because of that? That was just twelve years ago. Now, unless you are Mark Robinson, you can say whatever dumb **** you want and people just brush it off because ‘their policies are more important‘ or they genuinely believe these lunatics.

I still wonder why it doesn‘t work for Robinson. Although with his voter base, I have a slight suspicion. :)

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I still wonder why it doesn‘t work for Robinson. Although with his voter base, I have a slight suspicion. :)

I think it's safe to say that Mark Robinson's comments have been brushed off. Trump atleast clearly doesn't have any beef with him.

[Barkworm]

The polls speak a different language though. (https://elections2024.thehill.com/north-carolina/north-carolina-governor-stein-robinson/)

[Zulithe]

Got ballots and the thick informational booklet in the mail for our household yesterday. I LOVE permanent voting by mail. Shame so many states think it's evil and don't want it, sucks for them! :tlol:

I also wanted to draw attention to https://ballotpedia.org/ for those that haven't heard about it before. You can look up everything that will be up for vote based on your address so you can research ahead of time. Very useful resource.

[CyberCubed]

So apparently the MAGA peeps think the Democrats are using a ****ing WEATHER CONTROLLING MACHINE to purposely strike Republican heavy states to affect the election????? What the flying ****?????

That's comic book villainy, the Flash villain from DC, "The Weather Wizard" does that. :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

Well, at least it's a good thing there's absolutely nobody on the left who we can point to who also believes crazy sh**.

[Zulithe]

Trump's mental decline:

Trump’s top general calls ex-president ‘fascist to the core’ and ‘most dangerous person to this country,’ new book says
But the Army veteran expressed even more strident concerns to Woodward himself at a March 2023 meeting at the Willard Hotel in Washington, DC.

Woodward writes that when he approached Milley at a reception, the general spoke first and told him: “We gotta talk.”

He told the journalist that “no one has ever been as dangerous to this country” as the former president.

He asked: “Do you realize, do you see what this man is?”

Milley, who had been a source for Woodward’s last book, Peril, said he’d “glimpsed” Trump’s true nature when they previously spoke during the writing of that 2021 release, but he said he now knew exactly what the ex-president is.

“He is the most dangerous person ever. I had suspicions when I talked to you about his mental decline and so forth, but now I realize he’s a total fascist. He is now the most dangerous person to this country,” he said.

“A fascist to the core,” Milley repeated.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ar-AA1s6KQ9

KFile: Before his MAGA conversion, Vance indicated that Biden won the 2020 election legitimately

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/08/politics/kfile-vance-2020-election/index.html

Damn it's gonna be sweet to watch this guy fade away into total irrelevance once Trump loses.

Dow jumps 400 points to a record on Friday, S&P 500 closes above 5,800 for the first time: Live updates
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/10/stock-market-today-live-updates.html

This Stock Market Stat Has Predicted 83% of Presidential Elections in the Past Century
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/stock-market-stat-has-predicted-83-presidential-elections-past-century

Look at that stock market soar! Trump must be loving this.

Eight years ago, Trump vowed to ‘drain the swamp.’ Now he swims in it.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ar-AA1s5vEe
“He gives them assurances that there will be life after Nov. 5,” said one of the colleagues, referring to Election Day.

Lanza declined to comment through a Mercury spokesman. A Trump spokesman did not respond to questions.

Eight years after Trump entered politics promising to reduce the influence of Washington lobbyists — to “drain the swamp,” as he put it — advocates for corporate interests, including companies based in China and other foreign countries denounced by Trump, now sit at virtually every level of his campaign. Lobbyists are represented among high-level staff, informal advisers and party faithful who planned the summer convention in Milwaukee, as people with access to Trump or insight into his at-times erratic decision-making turn that knowledge into moneymaking opportunities.

Trump’s campaign manager, Susie Wiles, is a Mercury partner alongside Lanza — and one of at least five people advising Trump who have advocated for tobacco, vaping or cannabis interests in recent years, according to lobbying disclosures and interviews.

Drain the swamp, hahahahaha. His administration *IS* the swamp.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Most people won't read or care about such long posts. Diss Trump all you like, but save yourself the energy.

Trump’s top general calls ex-president ‘fascist to the core’ and ‘most dangerous person to this country,’ new book says

Sounds awesome and badass.

[Zulithe]

Most people won't read or care about such long posts. Diss Trump all you like, but save yourself the energy.
I got nothing better to do when not working. Well, play video games I guess. :lol:

If I even reach 1 person it's worth it to me. Hell even if I reach zero, at least I entertained myself.

[Andrew NDB]

If I even reach 1 person it's worth it to me.

Spoiler alert: you didn't.

[Cowabung-Gal]

So apparently the MAGA peeps think the Democrats are using a ****ing WEATHER CONTROLLING MACHINE to purposely strike Republican heavy states to affect the election????? What the flying ****?????

*cough* “The world will end in a couple of years due to manmade climate change” *cough*

[Zulithe]

Spoiler alert: you didn't.
You're so mean to me Andrew! It's okay, I'm a nice person believe it or not :lol:

I might even be nicer after Nov 5th, we'll see.

There are a lot of guests who view this forum, so don't be so sure that I'm batting at zero!

[Zulithe]

Kamala Harris vows to create bipartisan council of policy advisors if elected: “We need a healthy two-party system, I don’t want yes men around me”


Vice President Harris announced Friday she would create a bipartisan council of advisers if elected president, in an effort to reach out to Republican and independent voters while in Arizona.

"Not only will I have a Republican in my Cabinet, but I'm also going to — I was talking to my team about it — I want to create some structure around the following. Which is, I love good ideas, wherever they come from, I love good ideas," Harris said.

She added, "part of what I intend to do … is creating a bipartisan council of advisers who can then give feedback on policy as we go forward."

During her campaign remarks in Scottsdale, in front of a banner that read "Country Over Party," she added that she doesn't want "yes people" around her.

"We need a healthy two-party system, we have to have a healthy two-party system, we have to," she said. "It's in the best interest of all of us."

Harris told a story Friday about sparring with John McCain, the former senator from Arizona, in a Senate committee room and later that day, on the floor, McCain told her, "Kid, come over here, you're going to make a great senator."
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4929316-harris-bipartisan-council-advisers/amp/

McCain Republicans are the kind I can respect. You can have very different views but the acceptance of the reality that all have to work together and have common decency has to be the root of everything.

[Barkworm]

Overall, 2008 was the only US election in my memory where both candidates were respectable individuals, both policy- and character-wise.

[Andrew NDB]

Overall, 2008 was the only US election in my memory where both candidates were respectable individuals, both policy- and character-wise.

I don't disagree there. And I even yearn for that. But again... policies. "Pick the candidate that is the most like Jesus in their day-to-day" is not a category on the ballot.

And even more again. Please. I never wanted Trump on the ballot for this election. Even his name on this alone is going to electrify certain people that wouldn't otherwise be electrified.

[Coola Yagami]

I don't want another four years of people plugging in Trump or Trump expies in all forms of media since they can't stop virtue signaling about how much they hate the guy.

Sure. Hate him all you want. Keep it out of our media.

The irony is, had he won in 2020, we'd be almost rid of him. As it is if Kamala wins I wouldn't put it past him to still want to run next and continue to keep running until he either dies or finally gets arrested.

[CyberCubed]

Nah, if he loses now he's done. He's 78 right now. In another 4 years he'll be 82 turning 83. Even if he's still around he's not going to run as an 83 year old.

[Coola Yagami]

Nah, if he loses now he's done. He's 78 right now. In another 4 years he'll be 82 turning 83. Even if he's still around he's not going to run as an 83 year old.
I feel he's still dumb enough to try.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I feel he's still dumb enough to try.

Trump said he won't run again if he loses. The guy may be evil or a facist for many, but he's anything but dumb.

I don't want another four years of people plugging in Trump or Trump expies in all forms of media since they can't stop virtue signaling about how much they hate the guy.

Sure. Hate him all you want. Keep it out of our media.

That's the cost of being famous. And Trump is famous in a revolutionary way that almost no other person has been in recent history.

[Autbot_Benz]

Trump said he won't run again if he loses. The guy may be evil or a facist for many, but he's anything but dumb.





Hate to break it to you Trump is the literal textbook definition of dumb

https://i.imgur.com/MRFqYf8.png

[CyberCubed]

Most people of Trumps build, weight, eating unhealthy and being in a stressful position should logically dictate he would die before 80. Between the trials and running for president, he's under constant stress and pressure. At his age I'm surprised he hasn't completely lost it.

I'm honestly surprised he still (appears?) to be in good health.

[Coola Yagami]

Trump said he won't run again if he loses.


Yeah, cause Trump is the face of honesty. And also loophole. 'If he loses'. He'll just say he didn't lose 2024 just like he says he 'didn't lose' 2020.

[ranger_scout]

A University of Kansas professor who said that men should be "lined up and shot" for not voting for Kamala Harris has been fired.

https://x.com/RogerMarshallMD/status/1844795667794862403?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1844795667794862403%7Ctwgr% 5E98391f11831dcb12c6946f4f144006c2d240c39e%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftownhall.com%2Ftipsheet%2Fre beccadowns%2F2024%2F10%2F12%2Fku-professor-is-no-longer-teaching-n2646121

[Zulithe]

lol. I watched the video in question and that's NOT what he said. He said men who think women aren't capable of being smart enough should be lined up and shot. Was he out of line to say it in a classroom? yeah. Was he wrong? Well that's debatable :)

But of course this is something a conservative would get steamed as hell about.

Fragile ass men I swear. Grow a pair.

[Zulithe]

It would be a small miracle of Cruz loses, but with each passing year it's getting more and more of a contended state.

Ted Cruz and Colin Allred wage another big US Senate fight in Texas

https://apnews.com/article/texas-allred-cruz-senate-election-2024-ebf06d66ff07a94704fac0acec7d30b5

Kamala releases medical record. Why won't Trump release his?

Harris releases medical record, putting pressure on Trump to follow suit

https://www.axios.com/2024/10/12/harris-medical-records-release
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/harris-releases-medical-report-drawing-contrast-with-trump/ar-AA1s9sv8

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Hate to break it to you Trump is the literal textbook definition of dumb.

Dumb people don't start revolutionary movements and rise to power with millions of followers. I'll gladly concede that the democrat leaders are smart people.

Yeah, cause Trump is the face of honesty. And also loophole. 'If he loses'. He'll just say he didn't lose 2024 just like he says he 'didn't lose' 2020.

He did say he lost in 2020, albeit in a fraudelent election. Trump is clearly self-aware that this is his last chance to seize power, and mark my words that if he doesn't win, then the second January 6th will completely overshadow the first one.

Most people of Trumps build, weight, eating unhealthy and being in a stressful position should logically dictate he would die before 80. Between the trials and running for president, he's under constant stress and pressure. At his age I'm surprised he hasn't completely lost it.

I'm honestly surprised he still (appears?) to be in good health.

It's impressive how he keeps going. His health is not ideal, but his determination is undeniable.

[Mayhem]

Dumb people don't start revolutionary movements and rise to power with millions of followers. I'll gladly concede that the democrat leaders are smart people.
Who’s the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him? :P

[Andrew NDB]

then the second January 6th will completely overshadow the first one.

So 2 people will die instead of 1? Of the rioters?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

So 2 people will die instead of 1? Of the rioters?

Trump ordered the 1st January 6th to be peaceful because he knew that there was likely going to get a second chance to run. Think of it as a warning shot.

There will be no second chances this time.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

https://nypost.com/2024/10/13/us-news/third-trump-assassination-attempt-thwarted-when-armed-man-arrested-outside-coachella-rally-sheriff-says/

Third possible assasination attempt on Trump thwarted.

Once again, the Donald lives to fight another day.

[Zulithe]

Happy Monday! We are three weeks plus one day away from Election Day

http://i.imgur.com/DIeFJpzh.png (https://imgur.com/DIeFJpz)

[Mayhem]

I'm sure the Democrats aren't completely clean to be fair, but not on this scale...

[Autbot_Benz]

https://nypost.com/2024/10/13/us-news/third-trump-assassination-attempt-thwarted-when-armed-man-arrested-outside-coachella-rally-sheriff-says/

Third possible assasination attempt on Trump thwarted.

Once again, the Donald lives to fight another day.



https://i.imgur.com/kF7DMy5.png

[Mayhem]

Easy way to get in and kill DonOLD Duck… guess he was quackers :lol:

Wasn’t the last guy a Trump (or ex) supporter too? Political leanings mean nothing when immortality is on the line…

[Mayhem]

Well, that’s a first after all these years, someone has blocked me on FB because I made a post about the upcoming election and says I can’t because I’m not a US citizen and can’t comment on the election or the candidates :-? Well, good luck stopping all the non US news agencies doing the same…! :lol: Let alone all the Chinese and Russian bots on social media…

[Cowabung-Gal]

2QPS5Sm8pdE

LOL. What? :lol:

[Mayhem]

Well exactly, it should be America apartments for American gangs, get with the priorities folks! :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

Well exactly, it should be America apartments for American gangs, get with the priorities folks! :lol:

Well, of course. Similarly American homeless vs. illegal immigrant homeless.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Well exactly, it should be America apartments for American gangs, get with the priorities folks! :lol:

As if we need even more problems because of foreign invasions.

At first they were like, “Well there’s no evidence supporting that claim”.
https://www.npr.org/2024/09/06/nx-s1-5100765/aurora-police-chief-says-theres-no-evidence-that-venezuelan-gang-took-over-apartment

1. It’s not happening

2. It’s happening but it’s not that big of a deal

Guess what’s step 3

[Zulithe]

Well, that’s a first after all these years, someone has blocked me on FB because I made a post about the upcoming election and says I can’t because I’m not a US citizen and can’t comment on the election or the candidates :-? Well, good luck stopping all the non US news agencies doing the same…! :lol: Let alone all the Chinese and Russian bots on social media…

USA Presidential election outcomes can have big impacts on other countries, you aren't wrong for caring. Some people just don't want to engage with it from friends and family, I try to keep anything political on Facebook at a minimum.

Meanwhile if they love TRUMP they love to talk about that and F anyone who disagrees, right :lol: We have to be the tolerant and understanding ones even if other people won't be.

[Zulithe]

Stumbling Trump says tariffs are 'figure of speech' after Fox News host slams his policy (https://www.the-express.com/news/politics/151566/donald-trump-tariffs-figure-of-speech)
"I'm using 200 percent tariffs just as a figure of speech," he added. "Well I'll say 100, 200, I'll say 500. I don't care."

This guy will literally say anything. He has no idea what he's talking about. Just throwing out anything he think will get bites. What a 'leader.' What a High IQ Individual.

Cities seek more than $750K in unpaid bills for Trump campaign events since 2016 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/rcna174757)

At least four cities and a county are still waiting to be reimbursed for costs associated with local law enforcement and first responders during Trump's visits.

Former President Donald Trump held a third rally last month in Erie, Pennsylvania, which sits in the northwest corner of a swing state that could decide who wins the White House.

Like the two other times Trump has been to Erie to rev up his supporters, he left without paying the bill.

City officials haven't yet tallied up what the Trump campaign owes Erie for public safety costs for his most recent rally in September.

But according to a city official, Trump owes the city more than $40,000 for the rallies he held there in 2018 and 2023.

Erie, whose bills were previously reported by the Erie Times-News, isn't the only city that has hosted Trump rallies and not been paid by the campaign.

Including Erie, four cities and a county confirmed to NBC News that they're still waiting for the Trump campaign to pay bills often associated with reimbursements for the costs of local law enforcement and other first responder personnel.

The final price tag is more than $750,000 for those five jurisdictions, with some bills dating back eight years.
And yet complete silence from his supporters. Trump has a long, long history of stiffing contractors and other organizations he works with. More of his very tired playbook. He has cheated his way through life and does not represent American values.

[Mayhem]

I feel some people missed my previous comment was so far tongue in cheek, it had burst through and was licking the air...

Meanwhile if they love TRUMP they love to talk about that and F anyone who disagrees, right :lol: We have to be the tolerant and understanding ones even if other people won't be.
Yeah that pretty much describes him, screw the Democraps and libtards, they've made everything worse in the last 4 years etc. Needless to say some other folks in my friends list dogpiled him for his position and actions :lol:

[Zulithe]

Donald Trump's Town Hall Takes Strange Musical Twist (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-music-town-hall-oaks-pennsylvania_n_670dbb07e4b0ce20754b7c5b)
OAKS, Pa. ? Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump turned a town hall in Pennsylvania into a concert on Monday, singing along and dancing for nearly 40 minutes while his favorite hits played on stage.

"Turn it up. Great song," Trump told supporters at a cavernous expo center in suburban Philadelphia as Jeff Buckley's cover of Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" blared from the speakers.

"How about this: We'll play 'YMCA,'" he said at another point to cheering supporters as the Village People song, a Trump crowd favorite, started up.

Trump initially took several questions from attendees in the audience about affordable housing and the economy but seemed to grow bored with the format after two people fainted in the audience, causing lengthy interruptions in the program.

"Let's not do any more questions. Let's just listen to music," Trump said, directing his staff to play "a couple of real beauties."

"Who the hell wants to hear questions?" he added.

During the Q&A portion of the event, Trump was asked by a pair of supporters how he planned to make housing more affordable and how he would provide relief to small-business owners. Both times he answered by touting his plans to cut energy costs.

"We're going to drill, baby, drill," Trump said. "We're going to get the energy down. When the energy comes down, prices are going to come down." what is there to even say anymore... geeze louise.


https://i.imgur.com/Prx5Awll.png
https://x.com/TheTNHoller/status/1845979910357004562
Song "Time To Say Goodbye" how fitting :)

https://i.imgur.com/DjUqGjyl.png

Even total disdain for his own followers. (https://x.com/acnewsitics/status/1845975702299869526) I'm just gonna say it Republicans... you all deserve better. A candidate who actually cares about you and respects you. That's not this guy.

--
Harris could join Joe Rogan podcast in hunt for male votes, sources say (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/kamala-harris-could-join-podcaster-joe-rogan-an-interview-sources-2024-10-15/)
Oct 14 (Reuters) - Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris could sit down for an interview with popular podcaster Joe Rogan, whose audience leans heavily towards young men, as she works to shore up support with male voters, sources said on Monday.
Harris campaign officials, in the final stretch of the U.S. presidential campaign, met with Rogan's team this week but an appearance has not been confirmed yet, said two of the sources, who have knowledge of the matter.
Rogan, who runs the most popular podcast in the United States, has a highly coveted and devoted following that numbers in the tens of millions.
The interview will offer Harris an opportunity to make her case to his followers, as she works to shore up support with male voters and Black men in particular. Numerous public polls suggest Republican nominee Donald Trump could outperform among young men of all races.

[Mayhem]

Hah I was just coming here to post the same thing... Time to Say ****ing Goodbye, I really hope. Studies show that when dementia patients get agitated, playing music helps calm them down... especially classical. Legal action from Andrea Bocelli et al for playing this without permission incoming in 3, 2, 1...

In other news, Kamala has agreed to an interview on Fox News. Even Trump hasn't done that yet, who's the one shying away from media coverage?

[Zulithe]

Celine Dion also does not want any of her songs used by Trump or his campaign, but he doesn't listen. Surprised she hasn't taken any legal action.

[Andrew NDB]

It's really fascinating to watch the deranged whip themselves up on the daily. Also, sad.

[Autbot_Benz]

Celine Dion also does not want any of her songs used by Trump or his campaign, but he doesn't listen. Surprised she hasn't taken any legal action.

I am pretty sure no presidential nominee has had more artists telling him to stop using their music than Trump.

[Mayhem]

I am pretty sure no presidential nominee has had more artists telling him to stop using their music than Trump.
Or as he would say "the most, the best, the highest numbers" :lol:

[Cowabung-Gal]

T0t08vEqgiw

Apparently you can find these books at Wal-Mart

https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExdm1zOTcyNTYydmUxOHhscHl4aWc1Zm1 pMmU3cmxyank2aGY4ZjJvbCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/3oxOCgMHgPtSUULjzO/giphy.webp

[Zulithe]

Biden: "I think he's running to stay out of jail"

He's saying the quiet part out loud. More people should though :lol:

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1846338571466428658

[Barkworm]

That's pretty obvious, isn't it? That, and being a pathological narcissist are the only reasons for him.

[ranger_scout]

A North Carolina Democrat party chair has resigned after being arrested for allegedly stealing Trump signs.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/north-carolina-democrat-leader-resigns-after-arrest-allegedly-stealing-trump-roadside-signs

[Andrew NDB]

Ry1IjOft95c

Probably the best Trump interview I've seen, anywhere. Funny stuff.

[Zulithe]

My vote is for harris, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. Trump is the smarter politician but age has gotten to him. He is a shadow of his 2016 former self.
Regardless of whoever wins this; It will basically give the opposing party the win in 2028.

what makes you so sure about 2028? Rs have had a really hard time finding candidates that resonate with people. That's why they've stuck with Trump for the last nearly 12ish years.

Meanwhile Dems have an absolutely stacked deck as the recent Vice Presidential competition showed us, lots of very solid choices.

The only thing Rs could do that could even come close to Trump's success would be to run Tucker

[Autbot_Benz]

More nonsense from Captain Word Salad Hydrogen powered cars :lol::lol::lol:

Trump: Hydrogen is the new car. They say it's great. If it explodes, you're dead. If it explodes, they actually say if it explodes, you're unrecognizable. You call your wife over, they call up the wife. Would you please come here and take a look and see whether or not this is your husband because we cannot see. And she goes to the nearest tree, which is about 100 yards away and she says, no, it's only blood, there's nothing there. She says I can't tell


https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1846373568013029457

[Andrew NDB]

More nonsense from Captain Word Salad Hydrogen powered cars :lol::lol::lol:

You think he's wrong? You've never heard of the hydrogen bomb? The prospect of hydrogen-powered cars has been scary long before Trump ever opened his mouth. I'm all for it if they can explain to us how it's completely safe for cars, particularly in bad accidents.

[Mayhem]

You think he's wrong? You've never heard of the hydrogen bomb? The prospect of hydrogen-powered cars has been scary long before Trump ever opened his mouth. I'm all for it if they can explain to us how it's completely safe for cars, particularly in bad accidents.
https://afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/how-do-fuel-cell-electric-cars-work

Just to add, there’s more energy stored in the petrol (gas to you Americans) tank of a regular car than there is here, so normal cars go bang bang bigger by comparison to boot. This isn’t like some Hollywood movie, a crash isn’t going to suddenly cause the car to detonate, and there isn’t much hydrogen in the car itself. The danger is more the fact the hydrogen is under pressure than the fact it is hydrogen.

Anyhow DonOLD’s data is about 15 years old, the motor industry decided lithium batteries were more efficient and viable than hydrogen ones… unless they are deciding to give them another whirl

[ranger_scout]

Vice President Harris completely crashed and burned during her interview with Brett Bair on Fox News. She refused to answer any of his questions about the border and kept interrupting and going off-topic. She didn't have any good solutions to the problems of the Biden Administration. Here are some of the highlights.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2024/10/16/heres-how-kamalas-interview-with-fox-news-went-n2646338

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6363352379112

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6363354010112

[IndigoErth]

More nonsense from Captain Word Salad Hydrogen powered cars :lol::lol::lol:

Wow, even the car topic aside, he talks like a person who is coming out of general anesthesia. He's had this rambling way a long time, but it's noticeably worse than it was.

I mean, Biden has clearly slowed and certainly needs to retire, but Trump's speech patterns are just as concerning. He's got no business being in any position of power over this country if his train of thought is... whatever that is.


That quote reminds me of some older-ish guy I encountered at the other day, I think the second or third time I've come across him. Guy likes to push rambling, partly-nonsensical political (I think??) discussion on any people he comes across. Maybe he's lonely, but he's also not wrapped too tight and it's a bit disconcerting. (I didn't even go get my dark chocolate bar because he went down that aisle and didn't want to encourage any further interaction... :ohwell:)

[ranger_scout]

Harris also didn't give a good answer when asked about Biden's mental health.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/kamala-harris-avoids-questions-about-bidens-mental-decline-joe-biden-not-ballot

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Regardless of whoever wins this; It will basically give the opposing party the win in 2028.

Not if Trump wins and then people will never have to vote again.

[Zulithe]

Bautista commentating on Trump. Sadly I can't find a way to embed a video at a specific timestamp using this forum it won't embed properly, so go to 15:23

rn-Dw2JUVmo

[Zulithe]

The Republican party doesn't want a fair election. It's that simple.

Overseas voters – now a bloc that could be crucial for Democrats – targeted by GOP lawsuits in battleground states (https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/17/politics/overseas-voters-lawsuits-democrats-republicans/index.html)

An overseas ballot process that has long been seen as sacrosanct by both parties, due to its connection to US military members serving in foreign countries, is the target of multiple GOP-backed lawsuits filed in recent days.

The new legal assault comes as ballots cast by Americans abroad have become very favorable for Democrats and could be crucial in getting Vice President Kamala Harris over the finish line.

In addition to the new lawsuits filed by Republicans in Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Michigan, former President Donald Trump has suggested without evidence that the overseas vote is a source of fraud, even as he has made entreaties to Americans abroad with a campaign promise of lowering their taxes.

There are about 6.5 million eligible American voters living, serving and studying overseas, with about 1.6 million of them in battleground states, and more in tight House districts. Those votes could be decisive: The 2020 election was decided by 44,000 votes over four states.

--

What could go wrong?

At least 30 election deniers and 2020 fake electors serving as Trump electors this year (https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/17/politics/2020-fake-electors-serving-as-trump-electors-this-year-dg/index.html)
“election deniers and 2020 fake electors represent more than a third of the 82 electors picked this year to support Trump in the seven states where he attempted to overturn the results in 2020”

[Autbot_Benz]

Not if Trump wins and then people will never have to vote again.

Pretty sure voting is never going away even if mr dictator on day one wins. The non Maga Republicans and Dems in the house and senate will stop it.

[Zulithe]

Unfit to lead.

WATCH: Audience Member at Univision Town Hall Stunned by Trump’s Claim That Ashli Babbitt Was the Only Person Killed On Jan. 6 (https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-audience-member-at-univision-town-hall-stunned-by-trumps-claim-that-ashli-babbitt-was-the-only-jan-6-death/)

An audience member at Donald Trump’s Univision town hall was stunned when the former president claimed Ashli Babbitt was only death at the Capitol riot.

As Trump said, “nobody was killed,” the broadcast switched a shot of the crowd panning left to right. One woman face actually twisted in confusion when he made the claim.

United States Capitol Police (USCP) officer Brian Sicknick, who collapsed from a stroke during the riots, died one day later. In the aftermath of the violence it emerged that over 100 police officers had been wounded. In the seven months that followed, four police officers who were on duty that day died by suicide.

[Andrew NDB]

80DaR2CVNNk

Pretty amazing how she's completely unwilling to answer even the most basic question. Like, at all. Still, I have to give her a lot of credit for doing a solo interview at all with Fox News. Certainly no one thought that would ever be on the table.

Unfit to lead.

WATCH: Audience Member at Univision Town Hall Stunned by Trump’s Claim That Ashli Babbitt Was the Only Person Killed On Jan. 6 (https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-audience-member-at-univision-town-hall-stunned-by-trumps-claim-that-ashli-babbitt-was-the-only-jan-6-death/)

But... she was the only person killed on 1/6. The only person killed period, really.

[ranger_scout]

Vice President Harris and her team are doing damage control to make her look like she's not anti-Catholic.

Harris to virtually attend Catholic charity dinner that rival Trump is headlining (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/harris-virtually-attend-catholic-charity-dinner-rival-trump-headlining)

[Zulithe]

80DaR2CVNNk

Pretty amazing how she's completely unwilling to answer even the most basic question. Like, at all. Still, I have to give her a lot of credit for doing a solo interview at all with Fox News. Certainly no one thought that would ever be on the table.



But... she was the only person killed on 1/6. The only person killed period, really.
She gave a lot of answers, when he let her. He thought he could talk over her at every turn and she showed him that wasn't happening. Showed a lot of strength IMO.

Kamala going on Fox was literally stepping into the hornets nest. She's fearless. She DOES deserve credit. Now let's see Trump go on MSNBC


"technically" only one person died on the actual date of 1/6. But that's not a holistic view of the situation and I think you know that. One dying is still too many anyways, and that's before we account for the deaths that were a direct result or (arguably in the case of the suicides, though I think there is a strong case to be made there) indirect deaths. Deaths shouldn't be all we account for either, 100 officers were injured and their level of injury varied, some likely have lifelong injuries. That doesn't count for nothing. And all of it could have been TOTALLY AVOIDED

[Andrew NDB]

She gave a lot of answers, when he let her.

I haven't watched the whole thing but it appears to be he only is "interfering" with her when she clearly goes way off into left field (which is every time), doesn't answer a question and just starts the "let me tell you a story, instead" route.

"technically" only one person died on the actual date of 1/6.

No, period. Nobody else died that day. Certainly nobody else was "killed," even if you're employing the mental gymnastics needed to somehow include a stroke victim a day later and suicides many days/weeks later.

Deaths shouldn't be all we account for either, 100 officers were injured and their level of injury varied, some likely have lifelong injuries. That doesn't count for nothing. And all of it could have been TOTALLY AVOIDED

How come we don't count all the officer injuries and actual deaths during the BLM riots, then? Those are different?

[Autbot_Benz]

Unfit to lead.

WATCH: Audience Member at Univision Town Hall Stunned by Trump’s Claim That Ashli Babbitt Was the Only Person Killed On Jan. 6 (https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-audience-member-at-univision-town-hall-stunned-by-trumps-claim-that-ashli-babbitt-was-the-only-jan-6-death/)




Don't forget Zulithe Trump called Jan 6th A day of Love :roll: also
https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1846952885646483520

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Don't forget Zulithe Trump called Jan 6th A day of Love :roll: also
https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1846952885646483520

Lovely day indeed. And it's happening much bigger and better if the election is stolen again.

[IndigoErth]

You really just want to see this country's downfall, don't you. At least try to hide it better.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

You really just want to see this country's downfall, don't you. At least try to hide it better.

Do I want to see the Great Satan of Democracy crash and burn after having brutalised the United States for so many years? Absolutely.

Do I want to see the American people prosper under an autocratic and populist leader who is not controlled by Special interests and lobbysists? Absolutely.

I am not hiding anything.

[Andrew NDB]

Shesus. I give up on this thread. Let the chips fall where they may.

[Mayhem]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c9qvzj7zq3ro

Trump lands a few punches, Kamala lands more back - what definitely comes out is that Kamala at least is trying to poke fun at herself, whereas Trump is just mean spirited and can't even self deprecate because he believes he is perfect.


Do I want to see the American people prosper under an autocratic and populist leader who is not controlled by Special interests and lobbysists? Absolutely.
If you think that's Trump :lol: he's got special interests spewing from his backside, let alone the whole premise of making sure he doesn't go the jail in the process...

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

Pretty sure voting is never going away even if mr dictator on day one wins. The non Maga Republicans and Dems in the house and senate will stop it.

I wish I was naïve enough to believe there are true checks and balances in this country. Republicans get a free pass to do whatever they want.

[Zulithe]

FWL is just straight up unhinged. Hope he can get some mental health care before it gets too bad.

WALL STREET: 72% CHANCE SHE WINS (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-presidential-candidate-is-still-the-stock-markets-bet-to-win-the-election-4e0a1b76)
The Dow’s indication of who will win the U.S. presidency deserves to be taken seriously

The correlation between the Dow’s year-to-date return through mid-October and the incumbent party’s chances of winning are significant at the 97% confidence level.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average’s DJIA 0.14% strong year-to-date return translates to a 72% probability that the Democratic candidate, Vice President Kamala Harris, will win the presidential election in November.

Just two months ago the Dow was assigning a 64% probability to a Harris victory (as I wrote at the time). And when I devoted a column in May to this subject, the probability of a Democratic victory was judged to be 58%. The increases in probabilities since then are due to the stock market’s strength; there’s a statistically significant correlation between the Dow’s election-year performance and the incumbent political party’s chances of retaining the White House.

A 72% probability of a Democratic victory is much higher than the 43% chance that the electronic futures markets currently place (according to the aggregator site Election Betting Odds).


No matter who you want to win, it's all about turnout not polls. Make sure to VOTE. I already submitted my ballot. Many states also have early voting meaning you could be able to vote right now. Get it done and out of the way, then you can just chill on election day with your favorite beverage and watch the fireworks.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

FWL is just straight up unhinged. Hope he can get some mental health care before it gets too bad.

If you want to call me unhinged for opposing Liberal Democracy, then you also have to say the same for the millions who passionately hate democracies and prefer a Strongman who will destroy the evil system.

People like us have jobs, friends and families too, and you wouldn't be able to tell us apart from normal people on the street. That is your dillema when trying to paint us as mentally unhinged.

I wish I was naïve enough to believe there are true checks and balances in this country.

You're right, there aren't.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

FWL is the only political poster here who isn't a complete hiphopcrete. He owns what he believes. He is not dancing around with what he believes or wants like everyone else is or pretending to be a centrist looking at both sides.
The hero we need.

Thank you sdp. You may be voting for Harris, but I still love you.

I don't know if you would call yourself far-left, but if you are, then I feel that you and me, as a far-right person, share alot in common.

[Zulithe]

I'm a complete hypocrite, based on what evidence exactly? I guess I can write sdp off as crazy too. The brainworms are politically agnostic.

Another dominion lawsuit (which they will win (https://apnews.com/article/fox-news-dominion-lawsuit-trial-trump-2020-0ac71f75acfacc52ea80b3e747fb0afe)) possibly incoming.

Marjorie Taylor Greene Pushes Claim Dominion Machines Are ‘Switching’ Votes to Democrats in Wild Alex Jones Interview (https://www.mediaite.com/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-shares-claim-dominion-machines-are-switching-votes-to-democrats-in-wild-alex-jones-interview/)

You are barking up the wroooong tree lady.

[Mayhem]

Well we already know MTG is a whole unique level of cuckoo

[ranger_scout]

A pro-life protestor said Jesus is Lord at one of the Vice President's rallies. Then she basically says "You're at the wrong rally." If I posted this at Rangerboard.com I'd get an infraction.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBSES7sPoRg/?igsh=cmV6ZDRvZ2o1d3d1

[Zulithe]

I'm sure some of you on the right absolutely can't STAND John Oliver, but their reporting is rigorously fact checked to some of the highest standards in media. I watched a recent interview where he goes over how their show works in detail and it gave me a lot of confidence in their reporting.

Anyway, Election Subversion 2024:

CkK3W0lOKcc

[Mayhem]

Sadly I’ll have to try and VPN that.

[Barkworm]

The polls for this election are the weirdest I have ever seen. In any other year, there was a very clear lean towards one candidate. This year it's nothing like that at all and all forecast models I'm following show an almost literal 50:50 race.

If you live in a swing state and want to make a difference, get everyone you know out to vote. Turnout is more important than ever.

[Mayhem]

You said it DonOLD, but we already knew...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c39l89j10e1o

[Mayhem]

And in a move surprising very few, Elon Musk funds spoof fake ads, texts and posts purporting to look like genuine Democrat campaign messages.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/elon-musks-fake-sites-and-texts-impersonating-the-harris-campaign

[Zulithe]

That's not even the worst thing Elon is doing right now...

Elon Musk Veers Into Clearly Illegal Vote Buying, Offering $1 Million Per Day Lottery Prize Only to Registered Voters (https://electionlawblog.org/?p=146397)

“Elon Musk says on stage at a town hall that America PAC will be awarding $1 million every day until the election to a registered Pennsylvania voter who has signed his petition. Musk awarded the first $1 million this evening to someone at the town hall, bringing the guy onto the stage and handing him a jumbo check, lotto-style. Musk is essentially incentivizing likely Trump voters in PA to register to vote: Petition is to support for 1A and 2A, so basically R voters. But they also have to be registered to vote, so if they weren’t already, they would do it now.”

This is an attempt to BUY VOTES which is illegal.

Hey republicans all your screaming about election interference and not a word now hu?

[Mayhem]

He'll argue it's not, only to encourage people to register.

[Autbot_Benz]

That's not even the worst thing Elon is doing right now...

Elon Musk Veers Into Clearly Illegal Vote Buying, Offering $1 Million Per Day Lottery Prize Only to Registered Voters (https://electionlawblog.org/?p=146397)



This is an attempt to BUY VOTES which is illegal.

Hey republicans all your screaming about election interference and not a word now hu?

Would be nice if Merrick "does nothing at all" Garland would actually look into this. I think this falls under his juristiction

[Mayhem]

I owe my Trump-supporting friends an apology. I’ve been critical of the Trump presidency and am still exhausted from the experience despite not even living in the US. But to be fair President Trump wasn’t that bad, other than (all these provable things):

• when he incited an insurrection against the government,
• mismanaged a pandemic that killed over a million Americans
• separated children from their families
• lost those children in the bureaucracy
• tear-gassed peaceful protesters on Lafayette Square so he could hold a photo op holding a Bible in front of a church
• tried to block all Muslims from entering the country
• got impeached
• got impeached again
• had the worst jobs record of any president in modern history
• pressured Ukraine to dig dirt on Joe Biden
• fired the FBI director for investigating his ties to Russia
• bragged about firing the FBI director on TV
• took Vladimir Putin’s word over the US intelligence community
• diverted military funding to build his wall
• caused the longest government shutdown in US history
• called Black Lives Matter a “symbol of hate”
• lied nearly 40,000 times
• banned transgender people from serving in the military
• ejected reporters from the White House briefing room who asked tough questions
• vetoed the defense funding bill because it renamed military bases named for Confederate soldiers
• refused to release his tax returns
• increased the national debt by nearly $8 trillion
• had three of the highest annual trade deficits in U.S. history
• called veterans and soldiers who died in combat losers and suckers
• coddled the leader of Saudi Arabia after he ordered the execution and dismembering of a US-based journalist
• refused to concede the 2020 election
• hired his unqualified daughter and son-in-law to work in the White House
• walked out of an interview with Lesley Stahl
• called neo-Nazis “very fine people”
• suggested that people should inject bleach into their bodies to fight COVID
• abandoned our allies the Kurds to Turkey
• pushed through massive tax cuts for the wealthiest but balked at helping working Americans
• incited anti-lockdown protestors in several states at the height of the pandemic
• withdrew the US from the Paris climate accords
• withdrew the US from the Iranian nuclear deal
• withdrew the US from the Trans Pacific Partnership which was designed to block China’s advances
• insulted his own Cabinet members on Twitter
• pushed the leader of Montenegro out of the way during a photo op
• failed to reiterate US commitment to defending NATO allies
• called Haiti and African nations “sh**hole” countries
• called the city of Baltimore the “worst in the nation”
• claimed that he single-handedly brought back the phrase “Merry Christmas” even though it hadn’t gone anywhere
• forced his Cabinet members to praise him publicly like some cult leader
• believed he should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize
• berated and belittled his hand-picked Attorney General when he recused himself from the Russia probe
• suggested the US should buy Greenland
• colluded with Mitch McConnell to push through federal judges and two Supreme Court justices after supporting efforts to prevent his predecessor from appointing judges
• repeatedly called the media “enemies of the people”
• claimed that if we tested fewer people for COVID we’d have fewer cases
• violated the emoluments clause
• thought that Nambia was a country
• told Bob Woodward in private that the coronavirus was a big deal but then downplayed it in public
• called his exceedingly faithful vice president a “p---y” for following the Constitution
• nearly got us into a war with Iran after threatening them by tweet
• nominated a corrupt head of the EPA
• nominated a corrupt head of HHS
• nominated a corrupt head of the Interior Department
• nominated a corrupt head of the USDA
• praised dictators and authoritarians around the world while criticizing allies
• refused to allow the presidential transition to begin
• insulted war hero John McCain – even after his death
• spent an obscene amount of time playing golf after criticizing Barack Obama for playing (far less) golf while president
• falsely claimed that he won the 2016 popular vote
• called the Muslim mayor of London a “stone cold loser”
• falsely claimed that he turned down being Time’s Man of the Year
• considered firing special counsel Robert Mueller on several occasions
• mocked wearing face masks to guard against transmitting COVID
• locked Congress out of its constitutional duty to confirm Cabinet officials by hiring acting ones
• used a racist dog whistle by calling COVID the “China virus”
• hired and associated with numerous shady figures that were eventually convicted of federal offenses including his campaign manager and national security adviser
• pardoned several of his shady associates
• gave the Presidential Medal of Freedom to two congressman who amplified his batshit crazy conspiracy theories
• got into telephone fight with the leader of Australia(!)
• had a Secretary of State who called him a moron
• forced his press secretary to claim without merit that his was the largest inauguration crowd in history
• botched the COVID vaccine rollout
• tweeted so much dangerous propaganda that Twitter eventually banned him
• charged the Secret Service jacked-up rates at his properties
• constantly interrupted Joe Biden in their first presidential debate
• claimed that COVID would “magically” disappear
• called a U.S. Senator “Pocahontas”
• used his Twitter account to blast Nordstrom when it stopped selling Ivanka’s merchandise
• opened up millions of pristine federal lands to development and drilling
• got into a losing tariff war with China that forced US taxpayers to bail out farmers
• claimed that his losing tariff war was a win for the US
• ignored or didn’t even take part in daily intelligence briefings
• blew off honoring American war dead in France because it was raining
• redesigned Air Force One to look like the Trump Shuttle
• got played by Kim Jung Un and his “love letters”
• threatened to go after social media companies in clear violation of the Constitution
• botched the response to Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico
• threw paper towels at Puerto Ricans when he finally visited them
• pressured the governor and secretary of state of Georgia to “find” him votes
• thought that the Virgin islands had a President
• drew on a map with a Sharpie to justify his inaccurate tweet that Alabama was threatened by a hurricane
• allowed White House staff to use personal email accounts for official businesses after blasting Hillary Clinton for doing the same thing
• rolled back regulations that protected the public from mercury and asbestos
• pushed regulators to waste time studying snake-oil remedies for COVID
• rolled back regulations that stopped coal companies from dumping waste into rivers
• held blatant campaign rallies at the White House
• tried to take away millions of Americans’ health insurance because the law was named for a Black man
• refused to attend his successors’ inauguration
• nominated the worst Education Secretary in history
• threatened judges who didn’t do what he wanted
• attacked Dr. Anthony Fauci
• promised that Mexico would pay for the wall (it didn’t)
• allowed political hacks to overrule government scientists on major reports on climate change and other issues
• struggled navigating a ramp after claiming his opponent was feeble
• called an African-American Congresswoman “low IQ”
• threatened to withhold federal aid from states and cities with Democratic leaders
• went ahead with rallies filled with maskless supporters in the middle of a pandemic
• claimed that legitimate investigations of his wrongdoing were “witch hunts,”
• seemed to demonstrate a belief that there were airports during the American Revolution
• demanded “total loyalty” from the FBI director
• praised a conspiracy theory that Democrats are Satanic pedophiles
• completely gutted the Voice of America
• placed a political hack in charge of the Postal Service
• claimed without evidence that the Obama administration bugged Trump Tower
• suggested that the US should allow more people from places like Norway into the country
• suggested that COVID wasn’t that bad because he recovered with the help of top government doctors and treatments not available to the public
• overturned energy conservation standards that even industry supported
• reduced the number of refugees the US accepts
• insulted various members of Congress and the media with infantile nicknames
• gave Rush Limbaugh a Presidential medal of Freedom at the State of the Union address

[Mayhem]

Well, drat, I ran out of words in one post.! Ah well, part two… more Uk stuff incoming as well…

• named as head of federal personnel a 29-year old who’d previously been fired from the White House for allegations of financial improprieties
• eliminated the White House office of pandemic response
• used soldiers as campaign props
• fired any advisor who made the mistake of disagreeing with him
• demanded the Pentagon throw him a Soviet-style military parade
• hired a **** ton of white nationalists
• politicized the civil service
• did absolutely nothing after Russia hacked the U.S. government
• falsely said the Boy Scouts called him to say his bizarre Jamboree speech was the best speech ever given to the Scouts
• claimed that Black people would overrun the suburbs if Biden won
• insulted reporters of color
• insulted women reporters
• insulted women reporters of color
• suggested he was fine with China’s oppression of the Uighurs
• attacked the Supreme Court when it ruled against him
• summoned Pennsylvania state legislative leaders to the White House to pressure them to overturn the election
• spent countless hours every day watching Fox News
• refused to allow his administration to comply with Congressional subpoenas
• hired Rudy Giuliani as his lawyer
• tried to punish Amazon because the Jeff Bezos-owned Washington Post wrote negative stories about him
• acted as if the Attorney General of the United States was his personal attorney
• attempted to get the federal government to defend him in a libel lawsuit from a women who accused him of sexual assault
• held private meetings with Vladimir Putin without staff present
• didn’t disclose his private meetings with Vladimir Putin so that the US had to find out via Russian media
• stopped holding press briefings for months at a time
• “ordered” US companies to leave China even though he has no such power
• led a political party that couldn’t even be bothered to draft a policy platform
• claimed preposterously that Article II of the Constitution gave him absolute powers
• tried to pressure the U.K. to hold the British Open at his golf course
• suggested that the government nuke hurricanes
• suggested that wind turbines cause cancer
• said that he had a special aptitude for science
• fired the head of election cyber security after he said that the 2020 election was secure
• blurted out classified information to Russian officials
• tried to force the G7 to hold their meeting at his failing golf resort in Florida
• fired the acting attorney general when she refused to go along with his unconstitutional Muslim travel ban
• hired Stephen Miller
• openly discussed national security issues in the dining room at Mar-a-Lago where everyone could hear them
• interfered with plans to relocate the FBI because a new development there might compete with his hotel
• abandoned Iraqi refugees who’d helped the U.S. during the war
• tried to get Russia back into the G7
• held a COVID super spreader event in the Rose Garden
• seemed to believe that Frederick Douglass is still alive
• lost 60 election fraud cases in court including before judges he had nominated
• falsely claimed that factories were reopening when they weren’t
• shamelessly exploited terror attacks in Europe to justify his anti-immigrant policies
• still hasn’t come up with a healthcare plan
• still hasn’t come up with an infrastructure plan despite repeated “Infrastructure Weeks"
• forced Secret Service agents to drive him around Walter Reed while contagious with COVID
• told the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by”
• ****ed up the Census
• withdrew the U.S. from the World Health Organization in the middle of a pandemic
• did so few of his duties that his press staff were forced to state on his daily schedule “President Trump will work from early in the morning until late in the evening. He will make many calls and have many meetings,” allowed his staff to repeatedly violate the Hatch Act
• seemed not to know that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican
• stood before sacred CIA wall of heroes and bragged about his election win
• constantly claimed he was treated worse than any president which presumably includes four that were assassinated and his predecessor whose legitimacy and birthplace were challenged by a racist reality TV show star named Donald Trump
• claimed Andrew Jackson could’ve stopped the Civil War even though he died 16 years before it happened
• said that any opinion poll showing him behind was fake
• claimed that other countries laughed at us before he became president when several world leaders were literally laughing at him
• claimed that the military was out of ammunition before he became President
• created a commission to whitewash American history
• retweeted anti-Islam videos from one of the most racist people in Britain
• claimed ludicrously that the Pulse nightclub shooting wouldn’t have happened if someone there had a gun even though there was an armed security guard there
• hired a senior staffer who cited the non-existent Bowling Green Massacre as a reason to ban Muslims
• had a press secretary who claimed that Nazi Germany never used chemical weapons even though every sane human being knows they used gas to kill millions of Jews and others
• bilked the Secret Service for higher than market rates when they had to stay at Trump properties
• apparently sold pardons on his way out of the White House
• stripped protective status from 59,000 Haitians
• falsely claimed Biden wanted to defund the police
• said that the head of the CDC didn’t know what he was talking about
• tried to rescind protection from DREAMers
• gave himself an A+ for his handling of the pandemic
• tried to start a boycott of Goodyear tires due to an Internet hoax
• said U.S. rates of COVID would be lower if you didn’t count blue states
• deported U.S. veterans who served their country but were undocumented
• claimed he did more for African Americans than any president since Lincoln
• touted a “super-duper” secret “hydrosonic” missile which may or may not be a new “hypersonic” missile or may not exist at all
• retweeted a gif calling Biden a pedophile
• forced through security clearances for his family
• suggested that police officers should rough up suspects
• suggested that Biden was on performance-enhancing drugs
• tried to stop transgender students from being able to use school bathrooms in line with their gender
• suggested the US not accept COVID patients from a cruise ship because it would make US numbers look higher
• nominated a climate change skeptic to chair the committee advising the White House on environmental policy
• retweeted a video doctored to look like Biden had played a song called “**** tha Police” at a campaign event
• hugged a disturbingly large number of U.S. flags
• accused Democrats of “treason” for not applauding his State of the Union address
• claimed that the FBI failed to capture the Parkland school shooter because they were “spending too much time” on Russia
• mocked the testimony of Dr Christine Blasey Ford when she accused Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault
• obsessed over low-flow toilets
• ordered the re-release of more COVID vaccines when there weren’t any to release
• called for the construction of a bizarre garden of heroes with statutes of famous dead Americans as well as at least one Canadian (Alex Trebek)
• hijacked Washington’s July 4th celebrations to give a partisan speech
• took advice from the MyPillow guy
• claimed that migrants seeking a better life in the US were dangerous caravans of drug dealers and rapists
• said nothing when Vladimir Putin poisoned a leading opposition figure
• never seemed to heed the advice of his wife’s “Be Best” campaign
• falsely claimed that mail-in voting is fraudulent
• announced a precipitous withdrawal of troops from Syria which not only handed Russia and ISIS a win but also prompted his defense secretary to resign in protest
• insulted the leader of Canada
• insulted the leader of France
• insulted the leader of Britain
• insulted the leader of Germany
• insulted the leader of Sweden (Sweden!!)
• falsely claimed credit for getting NATO members to increase their share of dues
• blew off two Asia summits even though they were held virtually
• continued lying about spending lots of time at Ground Zero with 9/11 responders,
• said that the Japanese would sit back and watch their “Sony televisions” if the US were ever attacked
• left a NATO summit early in a huff
• stared directly into an eclipse even though everyone over the age of five knows not to do that
• called himself a very stable genius despite significant evidence to the contrary
• refused to commit to a peaceful transfer of power and kept his promise

Other than these few things…

[Barkworm]

But his isolationist policies are more important than all that minor stuff! Come on, man!

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I had a lot of fun reading that list. I commend the effort, no joke.

But I'm surprised there's some super taboo stuff Trump said or is have reported to have said that you didn't mention :tlol:

Then again, if you did mention it, I'd be living up to my title as the Drome's biggest Trump defender :tlol:

[Mayhem]

But I'm surprised there's some super taboo stuff Trump said or is have reported to have said that you didn't mention :tlol:
I only had so much room, and there's bound to be stuff forgotten about, there's so much to list...! :lol:

Now, just to be fair, there's a few bits in there I'm not saying he's wrong for doing, but there's an awful lot of wrong overall...

[Mayhem]

Oh, so apparently the election bribes to register by Musk is illegal…

'…this one is clearly illegal. See 52 U.S.C. 10307(c): 'Whoever knowingly or willfully gives false information as to his name, address or period of residence in the voting district for the purpose of establishing his eligibility to register or vote, or conspires with another individual for the purpose of encouraging his false registration to vote or illegal voting, or pays or offers to pay or accepts payment either for registration to vote or for voting shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both…' (Emphasis added.)

See also the DOJ Election Crimes Manual at 44: 'The bribe may be anything having monetary value, including cash, liquor, lottery chances, and welfare benefits such as food stamps. Garcia, 719 F.2d at 102. However, offering free rides to the polls or providing employees paid leave while they vote are not prohibited. United States v. Lewin, 467 F.2d 1132, 1136 (7th Cir. 1972). Such things are given to make it easier for people to vote, not to induce them to do so. This distinction is important. For an offer or a payment to violate Section 10307(c), it must have been intended to induce or reward the voter for engaging in one or more acts necessary to cast a ballot.…'

You cannot pay people to register to vote. You cannot enter them into a lottery as a reward for registering to vote. Every voter registration organization in this country knows this. Their lawyers make it very clear to them that there are fines and potential jail time if you **** this up.

[Zulithe]

Eminem set to introduce Barack Obama at Kamala Harris rally (https://www.the-express.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/152384/eminem-set-introduce-obama-kamala-harris-rally)

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[Lord Nightwalker]

Politics.
I hate politics.
It's had nothing to do with " we the people" for a long, long time.

That's truth.

If you actually believe our best interest even matter to these pricks, your as intelligent as a box of plastic hammers.

[Autbot_Benz]

‘I need the kind of generals that Hitler had,’ Trump said in a private conversation in the White House, according to two people who heard him say this. ‘People who were totally loyal to him, that follow orders.’”

Trump Talking about a US Solider 's funeral cost he offered to pay for


Trump became angry. “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a ****ing Mexican!” He turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order: “Don’t pay it!” Later that day, he was still agitated. “Can you believe it?” he said, according to a witness. “****ing people, trying to rip me off.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-raged-soldier-funeral-hitler-generals-1235140426/

[FredWolfLeonardo]

‘I need the kind of generals that Hitler had,’ Trump said in a private conversation in the White House, according to two people who heard him say this. ‘People who were totally loyal to him, that follow orders.’”


There are actually quite a few reports of Trump admiring Hitler or associating with Hitler supporters so we could potentially be looking at our first Neo-Nazi president having a second term.

No wonder Israel is scared of him.

[Zulithe]

Insane Clown Posse Endorse Kamala Harris

https://consequence.net/2024/10/insane-clown-posse-violent-j-kamala-harris/


They can’t all be Beyoncé. Being real though, seeing support come from all kinds of places is very cool.

[Barkworm]

I‘ve been reading articles that seem to indicate that a lot more Republicans are voting early so far compared to other elections. Which is good in a way because it looks like they are not buying into Trump trying to undermine the electoral process. What it means for Democrats is another story though.

[Mayhem]

I‘ve been reading articles that seem to indicate that a lot more Republicans are voting early so far compared to other elections. Which is good in a way because it looks like they are not buying into Trump trying to undermine the electoral process. What it means for Democrats is another story though.
Trump 2020: "Mail in ballots are fraud!"
Trump 2024: "Mail in early, mail in often!"

Rather changed his tune about early and postal votes...

[Mayhem]

Obviously Trump had no problem with Farage and Truss publicly endorsing and campaigning on his behalf when they've visited the US, but hey ho...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/22/trump-complaint-uk-labour-party

[Cowabung-Gal]

It's had nothing to do with " we the people" for a long, long time.

This guy gets it.

Trump is officially gonna be on the Joe Rogan podcast this Friday. People are saying that this event will break the Internet. It’s been in the talks that Kamala might sit down for an interview with Rogan too, and at this point, she’s gonna have to.

https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/liberal-npc-trump-full-tyrant-take-power-away-government.jpg?w=530&ssl=1

https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/trimp-mcdonalds-fix-ice-cream-machines-biden-maga.jpg?w=522&ssl=1

https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/angry-lady-smudge-kamala-bret-baier.jpg?w=527&ssl=1

[Autbot_Benz]

Micheal Keaton is for Kamala Harris . Knew he was the best Batman for a reason :lol:

[Coola Yagami]

Apparently Kamala has been dodging Joe Rogan?

I'm not 100% up on things. Is Joe Rogan really that influential to regular people, or just the terminally online ones? I've only first heard of him when he caught CoVid and caught flack cause he actually cured himself with ivermectin that broke the narrative. And I think the Simpsons spoofed him once.

But I mean, would the average joe know or care that Trump is gonna be on his show? I feel as if my laptop broke or something over the weekend and I couldn't get a new one til next week this whole thing would have gone unknown to me.

[Andrew NDB]

Micheal Keaton is for Kamala Harris . Knew he was the best Batman for a reason :lol:

Imagine racking up residual checks for hundreds of thousands of dollars ever few months and just getting paid 10 million for Beetlejuice II and not having to worry about the price of anything. Ever. And his kid turned out alright, so why worry about the future of education?

Apparently Kamala has been dodging Joe Rogan?

I'm not 100% up on things. Is Joe Rogan really that influential to regular people, or just the terminally online ones? I've only first heard of him when he caught CoVid and caught flack cause he actually cured himself with ivermectin that broke the narrative. And I think the Simpsons spoofed him once.

I know he gets bigger ratings than... well, anything. Anything you can point to out there, whether its traditional media or online podcast type things. And by a wide margin. I personally don't think he's as great of an interviewer as he's made out to be, but he can be pretty astute when he wants to be. Too much he leans into the "Hey, look, I know I'm a stoner oaf, so let me ask you this really stupid question" and then the interview suffers for it.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Micheal Keaton is for Kamala Harris . Knew he was the best Batman for a reason :lol:

Another White Dude for Harris, huh? (Why is this campaign so fixated on race?)

The “best Batman” couldn’t save The Flash movie that he co-starred in with that gr**mer Ezra Miller. :roll:

[Zulithe]

Another White Dude for Harris, huh? (Why is this campaign so fixated on race?)
Guess you missed the bombshell news yesterday (https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-reportedly-raged-at-american-soldiers-funeral-bill-it-doesnt-cost-60000-bucks-to-bury-a-fcking-mexican/). Trump makes everything about race because he is a racist. When you provoke based on race, then expect it to be about race. And that's just the latest incident, he has a very long history of well documented racism since the 1970s. But folks like you want to turn a blind eye to every single thing he has ever done wrong that makes him totally unfit to be the president of our fine nation. We deserve better.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump


I hope Kamala DOES go on Rogan but I think it doesn't really matter at this point. I think she did well on the Stern and Oprah interviews so it can only be a win for her if she does.

[Andrew NDB]

Guess you missed the bombshell news yesterday (https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-reportedly-raged-at-american-soldiers-funeral-bill-it-doesnt-cost-60000-bucks-to-bury-a-fcking-mexican/).

I can't imagine anywhere else I've heard that.

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[Cowabung-Gal]

But folks like you want to turn a blind eye to every single thing he has ever done wrong that makes him totally unfit to be the president of our fine nation. We deserve better.

Funny, that’s what the Trump supporters are saying about the Kamala supporters.

Also, “folks” isn’t inclusive enough. You should use “folx” instead. And “fine nation”? Don’t say that in front of leftists or you might be mistaken for a Trump supporter.

[Zulithe]

I can't imagine anywhere else I've heard that.

f1ab6uxg908

Every single thing he has done that would have ended the political career of someone else has bounced off of him. It is true. And that is what drives a lot of us crazy :) But, we're still trying.

We have seen entire political careers totally ended over things like "please clap" or a funny sounding scream. But Trump voters just stick with him no matter what he has done that should matter. That's why we call it a cult.

Thankfully, if we beat him this November it should be the last time we ever have to.

[Andrew NDB]

And that is what drives a lot of us crazy :)

I think a lot of you -- not all of you -- already didn't need much of a push in that way.