The 2024 presidential election

[Coola Yagami]

MAEA (Make America Expensive Again) :lol: :roll:

That's what they voted for. Apparently Andrew is a multi-millionaire, therefor none of this will affect him in any way whatsoever.

[Barkworm]

Uneducated, ignorant and proud of it. That's the majority of extreme right-wing voters. But the centre needs to connect with these people again because they have completely lost touch with them.

[Coola Yagami]

Uneducated, ignorant and proud of it. That's the majority of extreme right-wing voters. But the centre needs to connect with these people again because they have completely lost touch with them.

At this point, I'd honestly like to see them all get rounded up and go work the fields picking fruit and such to replace all the people that get deported, and at the same wage. It's literally the only way they'll see the ramifications of their actions.

Imagine if somehow instead of fruit, let's say for example that the illegals were a big part of the beer industry and this mass deportation would lead to a severe beer shortage countrywide. They'd sure send Trump up the creek then. They'd want him dead even more than the left do.

[member_removed]

Police Union upset with mass Pardons granted to those who assaulted police officers.

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/22/police-union-trump-jan-6-pardons

How could they not be surprised, Trump said he was going to do it.

[Coola Yagami]

Police Union upset with mass Pardons granted to those who assaulted police officers.

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/22/police-union-trump-jan-6-pardons

How could they not be surprised, Trump said he was going to do it.

I admit that is dumb. He already said he would do that. It shouldn't be a surprise.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Man I'm gonna miss this thread pre-inauguration and especially pre-election.

It's just not the same now that Trump is president. Winning is boring.

[Mayhem]

"I've worked mostly from home since 2008 and I can tell you, I will not accept a new job where I have to commute into an office every day. It's ****ing pointless and makes you less efficient because you can be spending the commute time working instead! And yes, my record speaks for itself"
I have turned down interest from two companies last year because it required commuting back into London each day. The other half works more hours than I do. There's no way we could juggle work and our daughter if we both were not working from home. One of us going part time is not an option. Pay rises and bonuses the last six years of my current job demonstrate my employer/manager knows I'm good at what I do. Considering my manager is also COO of the company... i'm far more interested in an employer that considers the needs and requirements of their employees and looks to keep staff by adapting.

The blanket requirement for federal employees to go back in will lose them a lot of the staff they actually wanted to keep.

MAEA (Make America Expensive Again) :lol: :roll:
You know what the funniest part of it is, those same people that have been bitching and bitching about inflation raising the prices of groceries over the last year or two are perfectly happy with grocery prices going up if it means kicking out those undesirable darkies. Hypocrisy much?

[Barkworm]

Mayhem, good to see you're not falling for the lame personal attacks.

[ToTheNines]

Man I'm gonna miss this thread pre-inauguration and especially pre-election.

It's just not the same now that Trump is president. Winning is boring.

Yeah, this thread was pretty funny up through the inauguration. Now it’s just angry and sad lol.

SAD!

[Mayhem]

Mayhem, good to see you're not falling for the lame personal attacks.
Thanks. I do fully realise I’m in a position not everyone can have, and that my employer (read, manager) is really only interested in two things: that I do my job well, and I do my weekly contracted hours. Sometimes I work more hours a day, sometimes less. Sometimes I start at 8, finish at 3. Sometimes I start 9, break during the afternoon, and restart at 8pm when daughter is in bed. Sometimes I might go 9-6 with no defined lunch break. Depends what’s going on.

[IndigoErth]

Imagine if somehow instead of fruit, let's say for example that the illegals were a big part of the beer industry and this mass deportation would lead to a severe beer shortage countrywide.
Hmm... such as farms growing fields of hops? Not to mention barley, wheat, corn, and other grains sometimes used in beers are farms that still might employ some. No need to try to imagine it. ;)

Edit: Seems that hops is also largely a northwest state crop, with Washington leading them. Hope the locals step up to take over to avoid the impacts, huh.

[ToTheNines]

I'm tired of winning. Can we create the 2028 presidential election thread?

Vance vs. Newscum?

DeSanctimonious vs. AOC?

[Andrew NDB]

Vance vs. Newscum?

DeSanctimonious vs. AOC?

And the more "sensible" leftists vs. the crazies that think Bernie actually has a chance.

[Mayhem]

And in news unsurprising to anyone with a brain, judges have already blocked the EO for repealing the 14th Amendment.

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/p7GBUK0.png

[IMJ]

The newest thing sweeping social media are the liberal gaslighters really going out of their way to will and manifest Elon Musk's dumbass "salute" into existence as "Nazism". :lol:

Some people have made comments about his mildly autistic, herky-jerky awkwardness when he did it. But the liberal gaslighting goes so deeply that they don't acknowledge that on it's own merits, opting instead to argue that "autism doesn't make people do the Nazi salute" which of course wasn't even remotely a match to the commentary about the awkwardness and the meaning that observation would have.

Other people are drawn into the debate that it's a "Roman salute" and not a "nazi salute", which of course is a terrible way to argue the truth because now you've been absorbed into a playing field of semantics. I'm reminded of the quote "never argue with an idiot because they will draw you down to their level and beat you with experience".

The simple fact is that Musk was "pouring his heart out to the crowd", got exuberant about it and looked like an idiot while also giving the left the easiest, lowest-hanging fruit to attack him with. The end.

I think the best thing is to address the population-minority who continue to bug-up and remind them that their public commentary has them marked and labeled to be the first put into "the camps" when that begins in a few weeks. :lol:

[Mayhem]

A Nazi salute IS a Roman salute, that’s where they borrowed it from. Two years of Latin and classics at school comes in useful. Likewise borrowing the swastika. Having pro-apartheid parents and facist grandparents would do something for your upbringing. If it talks like a Nazi and salutes likes a Nazi and donates money to a far right party in Germany… German pensioners saying it’s a Nazi salute, I’m inclined to believe them. I believe so far ten things ticked out the Project 2025 playbook that Trump denied knowing…

[IMJ]

A Nazi salute IS a Roman salute, that’s where they borrowed it from. Two years of Latin and classics at school comes in useful. Likewise borrowing the swastika. Having pro-apartheid parents and facist grandparents would do something for your upbringing. If it talks like a Nazi and salutes likes a Nazi and donates money to a far right party in Germany… German pensioners saying it’s a Nazi salute, I’m inclined to believe them. I believe so far ten things ticked out the Project 2025 playbook that Trump denied knowing…

:lol::lol:
See what I mean? You fell right into it...... Compelled. :lol:
Musk didn't do anything that was intended as "Nazism". You literally read what I wrote and posted your compulsion in complete disregard for the real point.

[Andrew NDB]

You don't even need to cast a "Wide" net here. Or any net. They just jump into the bucket all on their own, right in front of you.

[ToTheNines]

A Nazi salute IS a Roman salute, that’s where they borrowed it from. Two years of Latin and classics at school comes in useful. Likewise borrowing the swastika. Having pro-apartheid parents and facist grandparents would do something for your upbringing. If it talks like a Nazi and salutes likes a Nazi and donates money to a far right party in Germany… German pensioners saying it’s a Nazi salute, I’m inclined to believe them. I believe so far ten things ticked out the Project 2025 playbook that Trump denied knowing…

Ok but how is he a “Nazi” if he’s so obnoxiously pro-Irsael?

[IndigoErth]

"You could look at them and say 'could be trouble'"

Says someone with both a look and history to consider, but still always finds some willing to say "Sign me up for that next train wreck!" (Really, who in the administration of this season of the president Trump show will go to jail for him first?? Stay tuned!)

[Andrew NDB]

Ok but how is he a “Nazi” if he’s so obnoxiously pro-Irsael?

He's not. And he was literally in Auschwitz last year touring it with Jews and speaking about the experience in multiple events. And it's pretty funny how the only people who jump on opportunities like this to call Elon or Trump a nazi are the same people who refuse to see any of, you know, the actual naziism going on across the gl obe.

But any day now, right? The camps, the CAMPS!!

[FredWolfLeonardo]

It's obvious Elon Musk didn't intend it.

Elon didn't even maintain the straight form required for a good looking Nazi salute. His salute came off as awkward and undisciplined.

But when far-right people can use something to their political advantage, they will. It doesn't matter if Elon is not a Nazi, because his gesture will terrify the Left and embolden the Far Right regardless.

[ToTheNines]

to call Elon or Trump a nazi are the same people who refuse to see any of, you know, the actual naziism going on across the gl obe.

Uh oh… not our heroes in The Ukraine!

[IMJ]

But any day now, right? The camps, the CAMPS!!


My point exactly. These clowns will go on about it in public and explain their "terror" and how to "resist" in their deep, deep fear of Trump's boogieman hand, yet their "valid and deep fear" somehow doesn't put them into hiding or keep them from talking about the "upcoming camps!" even though doing so, by their own proposed model, would make them first targets to be "encamped".

Hysterical.

It's obvious Elon Musk didn't intend it.

Elon didn't even maintain the straight form required for a good looking Nazi salute. His salute came off as awkward and undisciplined. Just a brainless moment of stupidity from one of the smartest men on the planet. Irony.

But when far-right people can use something to their political advantage, they will. It doesn't matter if Elon is not a Nazi, because his gesture will terrify the Left and embolden the Far Right regardless.

It's true - you're right. That childlike enthusiastic stupidity of his fueled the entire left and the far-crazy-right.

[member_removed]

Anyone defending the salute, stand up at work today and do it, let us know if you end up in front of HR with a please explain.

[ToTheNines]

Anyone defending the salute, stand up at work today and do it, let us know if you end up in front of HR with a please explain.

I could do it, but I’m in construction lol

[IMJ]

Anyone defending the salute, stand up at work today and do it, let us know if you end up in front of HR with a please explain.

That is the argument of least brainwork - the manipulative argument. It doesn't even remotely "vilify" Musk and you're playing a game with it that no one is interested in playing except the left and the typical word play that lacks integrity.

You can completely understand the situation for what it is and not invite lunacy upon yourself by bait.

So to you I say "hey @$#$hole, gravity is a lie and you say it's real. So if you really believe that then jump off this cliff and prove it to me that it works. If you really believe it you'll jump off that cliff".

I mean all disrespect for your post when I call you a clown for posting circular nonsense.

[Andrew NDB]

Anyone defending the salute, stand up at work today and do it, let us know if you end up in front of HR with a please explain.

Congratulations for reading an asinine meme on the internet. You get the prize.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Anyone defending the salute, stand up at work today and do it, let us know if you end up in front of HR with a please explain.

I just did this in the Art School of my dreams and they insta-failed me.

Thanks alot dude.

[IndigoErth]

Rep. [Andy] Ogles Proposes Amending the 22nd Amendment to Allow Trump to Serve a Third Term

https://ogles.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-ogles-proposes-amending-22nd-amendment-allow-trump-serve-third-term

I think Andy has had too much of the funny fruit punch and it may be time for his own terms to end.


He has proven himself to be the only figure in modern history capable of reversing our nation’s decay and restoring America to greatness, and he must be given the time necessary to accomplish that goal.
Sure, Andy... if four years wasn't enough, and you're already assuming another four won't be, then that's not giving your fanboying over him much credibility.

[Barkworm]

Good thing our local right-wingers never get agitated over any non-sense that seems too woke for them.

But here's where I agree, Musk is just an idiot, not an actual Nazi. Sure, he sympathizes with the right-wing crazies but just like with Trump, there's no real ideology behind it (at least no actual right-wing ideology, his crazy fear of mankind becoming extinct is a different story).

I suppose no one has seen or read parts of his interview with the queen of Germany's extreme right-wingers Alice Weidel? At one point she says Hitler wasn't a right-winger but a communist. That seemed to be too much even for Elon...

[ToTheNines]

Start at 1:09 :lol:

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[Mayhem]

Note at no point have I actually stated that Elon IS a Nazi... but the evidence isn't exactly circumspect.

I suppose no one has seen or read parts of his interview with the queen of Germany's extreme right-wingers Alice Weidel? At one point she says Hitler wasn't a right-winger but a communist. That seemed to be too much even for Elon...
I have, mostly because why give her the air space, but as noted, Elon's a supporter and donator to her party, among other right wing groups that's why. It doesn't come off as a good look when you are giving money to some of the most undesirable people aiming to be in power. But then he's now got history having helped Trump, manipulating the Starlink counting machines or not.

And right now on X lashing out at the current UK government, and bigging up Farage and Tommy Robinson, the disgusting little bigotted prick. Even though he's in jail for aspects unrelated to the rape group film all the right wing cultists say is being censored, due to multiple contempts of court and refusing to pay back the £100k owed in settlement to someone he slandered (apparently he SPENT the money to avoid paying it!). He's is solitary for his own safety (and partly at his own behest) because many of the other inmates at Belmarsh (mostly white) rightly want to kick his head in too.

The fact is, 2% of gang rapists are Pakistani and 2% of the population is Pakistani. Ignoring the other 98% of gang rapists and that 80% of them are white... deflect to the minority, get you to hate them, hmm standard early Hitler playbook there too.

[Mayhem]

And as if things couldn't get more bizarre, oh but they surely will in time, Trump looking to deport Native Americans because they don't fully come under US jurisdiction as part of the 14th Amendment terms :roll:

https://www.salon.com/2025/01/23/excluding-indians-admin-questions-native-americans-birthright-citizenship-in/

[Autbot_Benz]

And as if things couldn't get more bizarre, oh but they surely will in time, Trump looking to deport Native Americans because they don't fully come under US jurisdiction as part of the 14th Amendment terms :roll:

https://www.salon.com/2025/01/23/excluding-indians-admin-questions-native-americans-birthright-citizenship-in/

lol What? Native Americans were living in the USA before we came along and made it the USA :lol: guess Trump never paid attention in Social Studies

[Mayhem]

lol What? Native Americans were living in the USA before we came along and made it the USA :lol: guess Trump never paid attention in Social Studies

To copy from the article...

The Justice Department then goes on to cite the Civil Rights Act of 1866, which predates the 14th Amendment by two years. The Justice Department attorneys specifically cite a section of the act that notes that “all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States.”

The Trump administration then goes on to argue that the 14th Amendment’s language — the phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” — is best understood “to exclude the same individuals who were excluded by the Act —i.e., those who are ‘subject to any foreign power’ and ‘Indians not taxed.’”

The Justice Department attorneys return to the topic of whether or not Native Americans should be entitled to birthright citizenship later in their arguments, citing a Supreme Court case, Elk v. Wilkins, in which the court decided that “because members of Indian tribes owe ‘immediate allegiance’ to their tribes, they are not ‘subject to the jurisdiction’ of the United States and are not constitutionally entitled to Citizenship.”

They are already doing their damndest to transform the US into white male power where women are subjugated and non-whites told to **** off... unless you're H1B carrying Indians.

[Autbot_Benz]

To copy from the article...



They are already doing their damndest to transform the US into white male power where women are subjugated and non-whites told to **** off... unless you're H1B carrying Indians.

MAWA (Make America White Again)

[ResidentEvil7]

I do hope America becomes more white/male tolerant, because as a white male myself, I'm sick of women and minorities getting special treatments just for being either female or dark and don't speak English.

[Andrew NDB]

I think a case could be made that beyond the trans issue alone, Elon is probably still a leftist. Throwing in with the guy who's going to ultimately held fund/get funding for what his REAL passion projects are, even if its partially against his values? Probably worth it, in his eyes. But whatever, he's an ally and generally makes a lot of sense.

Uh oh… not our heroes in The Ukraine!

I never said that. That whole thing is pretty murky. Though there is definite war crimes happening to a lot of POWs on both sides... I've seen the videos.

[Barkworm]

I do hope America becomes more white/male tolerant, because as a white male myself, I'm sick of women and minorities getting special treatments just for being either female or dark and don't speak English.

You know... sometimes they might be more qualified than you.

[ZariusTwo]

You know... sometimes they might be more qualified than you.

Everyone's good at something.

[IndigoErth]

Some are truly fantastic at playing victim.

I'd like to know where my special treatment is. We've been out of oil for the furnace for over a week due to backed up deliveries, right when it got super cold. (Hopefully today?) Some special treatment would have been grand. :thumbsup:

[Mayhem]

I do hope America becomes more white/male tolerant, because as a white male myself, I'm sick of women and minorities getting special treatments just for being either female or dark and don't speak English.
I'm on the fence about the DEI abolitions. What should NOT happen is the repeal of the 1965 Equal Opportunies Act. That basically lets employers go back to discminating on any grounds not to hire people without justifying why. Another white male power move.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm on the fence about the DEI abolitions. What should NOT happen is the repeal of the 1965 Equal Opportunies Act. That basically lets employers go back to discminating on any grounds not to hire people without justifying why. Another white male power move.

It's gone because of the affirmative action requirements within it, no other reason (you know, hiring people strictly because of race, which absolutely should be illegal). All of those things need to go into the fire before any kind of "common sense" rebuilding can begin otherwise what they can do will just be half measures.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I'm on the fence about the DEI abolitions. What should NOT happen is the repeal of the 1965 Equal Opportunies Act. That basically lets employers go back to discminating on any grounds not to hire people without justifying why


If all protected class laws are abolished, then the fit, white man will defeat all of his competition with ease.

[Andrew NDB]

If all protected class laws are abolished, then the fit, white man will defeat all of his competition with ease.

That's not true at all.

[IndigoErth]

the fit, white man will defeat all of his competition with ease.

That just makes me want to watch guys mud wrestle each other. Get on it, boys.

Winner gets the assistant manager job at Arby's.

[Andrew NDB]

You know who else this really benefits? Asians, who are disproportionately and regularly denied opportunities in both schooling and employment over far less qualified candidates who happen to be black or Hispanic. The left really hates talking about this but it's been going on for quite a while now.

[ResidentEvil7]

You know who else this really benefits? Asians, who are disproportionately and regularly denied opportunities in both schooling and employment over far less qualified candidates who happen to be black or Hispanic. The left really hates talking about this but it's been going on for quite a while now.

One reason why black and Hispanic people get an easier than everyone path to jobs and schools, because they'll scream "racist" or "unfair" when they don't get their way. But employers don't seem to care when a white (specially male) or an Asian person gets screwed out of opportunities, because I know, I'm a white male who was robbed of a post high school career; my race, gender and autism worked against me, by bigoted employers.

[IndigoErth]

Uh huh... And someone did reach out encouraging you to reapply in coming months, which is more than most get when they don't get hired on the first try.

Of course, the evil DEI pushes hiring to be inclusive of people with disabilities, like autism, so if that's gone, well, good luck.

[Andrew NDB]

Not really. There are separate programs and grants for that. Like here in WA, I've worked at a couple properties where there are individuals who are... noticeably impaired/handicapped. Their roles are useful but somewhat limited, so they're not actually taking away any jobs, and the company pays them full rate but then the state pays the company back about 50%.

[Mayhem]

It's gone because of the affirmative action requirements within it, no other reason (you know, hiring people strictly because of race, which absolutely should be illegal). All of those things need to go into the fire before any kind of "common sense" rebuilding can begin otherwise what they can do will just be half measures.
So you're perfectly fine with being turned down for a job simply because the hiring manager is black and won't hire whites? Even if you're the best candidate? That's basically what the EOA did. Prevent companies throwing out candidates because they are women, gay, too old, or the wrong colour. Nothing about promoting their hire, which is what the DEI was about.

[Andrew NDB]

So you're perfectly fine with being turned down for a job simply because the hiring manager is black and won't hire whites?

If they're running a for-profit business and want to make money and be successful, it's in their interests to hire the most qualified candidate irrespective of race. As opposed to being FORCED to fill roles with this gender or that race, regardless of anything else.

Yes, this also forces people to be good at their jobs or their trade. I'm sorry, but this shouldn't be any kind of epiphany. It should also fall well under the umbrella of "common sense."

[IndigoErth]

Now make higher education more affordable and accessible to all, so that people can learn what they need to become better candidates for those jobs and have a chance to compete with those who were born into better access to education and opportunities.

[Mayhem]

If they're running a for-profit business and want to make money and be successful, it's in their interests to hire the most qualified candidate irrespective of race. As opposed to being FORCED to fill roles with this gender or that race, regardless of anything else.
That was DEI.

EOA basically meant you were not allowed to discount anyone based on a characteristic (age, sex, colour etc). Their competency for the job was irrelevant, that’s what the hiring process would find out. Two completely separate things.

Effectively now it’s legal for racist or misogynist white male hirers to only hire other white males. Asking women if they will be starting a family soon is now legal. Dismissing someone because they are not Christian is now legal. MAGA is really MAWMA, Make America White Male Again. Might not affect you directly, but it will affects millions of others.

[Coola Yagami]

MAGA is really MAWMA, Make America White Male Again. Might not affect you directly, but it will affects millions of others.

Sadly this was a monster of the left's own making. We've had years of anti-white hate and white youngsters pretty much told they're naturally evil and racist just because they're white and all that, which ironically brings in all the actual racist types. This is a violent 'course correction' from them. The pendulum swinging the other way. Add to that all these skinhead neo nazi extremists that Trump is conveniently not disavowing and you get this mess. Like why exactly is Elon not clarifying what he did wasn't a nazi salute? Like... just say it. Unless of course....

I was afraid this was gonna happen. All the anti-white stuff and the trans stuff and DEI, all that pretty much handed Trump the election. No one wanted 4 more years of that, despite what 4 more years of Trump would look like.

[Autbot_Benz]

Do to a 50/50 tie and Vance voting for him. We have an unqualified raging alcoholic as secretary of defense former fox guy Pete Hegseth

guess you can say he is a DUI hire :lol:

[IMJ]

If all protected class laws are abolished, then the fit, white man will defeat all of his competition with ease.

What the f was that?!? Dude, I can't stand the skewed worldviews of many of the people here, but normally it's from clear-left-leaners but then you come in with that?

There are a tremendous number of reasons that your statement isn't even remotely accurate. It's not even a cogent talking point....

Sadly this was a monster of the left's own making. We've had years of anti-white hate and white youngsters pretty much told they're naturally evil and racist just because they're white and all that, which ironically brings in all the actual racist types. This is a violent 'course correction' from them. The pendulum swinging the other way. Add to that all these skinhead neo nazi extremists that Trump is conveniently not disavowing and you get this mess. Like why exactly is Elon not clarifying what he did wasn't a nazi salute? Like... just say it. Unless of course....

I was afraid this was gonna happen. All the anti-white stuff and the trans stuff and DEI, all that pretty much handed Trump the election. No one wanted 4 more years of that, despite what 4 more years of Trump would look like.

Well said and I'm glad you said it. And Mayhem and others already know it - he's just married to his bull$#!( at all costs. :lol: Too much working from home instead of getting outside to the "world outside his window". :lol:

[FredWolfLeonardo]

What the f was that?!? Dude, I can't stand the skewed worldviews of many of the people here, but normally it's from clear-left-leaners but then you come in with that?

There are a tremendous number of reasons that your statement isn't even remotely accurate. It's not even a cogent talking point....

As you know, I'm the most far right person on this board. I have no hate for white people at all and I sincerely think whites have contributed more to civilization than any other race.

All I'm saying is that in a country like America which is still majority white, if you were to scrap all these laws which have protected classes, then fit, white men would flourish for the following reasons in the workforce:

1. Being in a majority white country would make them favoured as fellow whites would feel more comfortable with whites as opposed to (insert other race here). That's just basic kinship.

2. Being men would also give them a distinct advantage in hiring due to them not getting pregnant, being physically stronger and more stoic than females.

[Vegita-San]

As you know, I'm the most far right person on this board. I have no hate for white people at all and I sincerely think whites have contributed more to civilization than any other race.

All I'm saying is that in a country like America which is still majority white, if you were to scrap all these laws which have protected classes, then fit, white men would flourish for the following reasons in the workforce:

1. Being in a majority white country would make them favoured as fellow whites would feel more comfortable with whites as opposed to (insert other race here). That's just basic kinship.

2. Being men would also give them a distinct advantage in hiring due to them not getting pregnant, being physically stronger and more stoic than females.

you don't need to go this far. simply eliminating DEI will do the trick. going any further would confirm the fear about trump the left has already.

[IndigoErth]

and more stoic than females.
Looking at history... we can stop playing pretend now.

[Mayhem]

A great number of jobs don’t require strength. Empathy, intelligence, wisdom, problem solving… as we’ve discovered over the last hundred years, all of those tend to be stronger female traits.

In a job I’m more scared of people being dumb than what the colour of my coworkers skin is.

Oh and if you suggested the other half was not stoic, then watch out :lol:

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Looking at history... we can stop playing pretend now.

When have I ever pretended?

[IndigoErth]

It's called sarcasm. We know you believe the things you say, if blind to see why it's wrong or rude. Esp trying to narrate what women are or aren't.

Though the scenes of Jan 6th came right to mind as the opposite of stoic. ;) And similar freakouts and wars elsewhere in the world.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Though the scenes of Jan 6th came right to mind as the opposite of stoic. ;) And similar freakouts and wars elsewhere in the world.

If anything, I think its the opposite. Going out into a battlefield, knowing you can get imprisoned, wounded or killed, requires you to ignore the emotional pleading to stop within you.

Men will almost always be the ones to wage revolutions and wars throughout history. Its in their blood.

[ToTheNines]

Mark my words. Trump and Elon will have a public falling out before 2026.

https://www.thetimes.com/us/american-politics/article/susie-wiles-chief-of-staff-elon-musk-wp0pfkxrx


So it begins.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

https://www.thetimes.com/us/american-politics/article/susie-wiles-chief-of-staff-elon-musk-wp0pfkxrx


So it begins.

Good.

Trump is an awesome and based nationalist. Elon is a technocratic and scheming globalist.

[Andrew NDB]

https://www.thetimes.com/us/american-politics/article/susie-wiles-chief-of-staff-elon-musk-wp0pfkxrx


So it begins.

Wishful thinking.

[ZariusTwo]

A great number of jobs don’t require strength. Empathy, intelligence, wisdom, problem solving… as we’ve discovered over the last hundred years, all of those tend to be stronger female traits

Plenty of women voted for Trump. So what does that tell you?

[Mayhem]

Plenty of women voted for Trump. So what does that tell you?
I did say tend, so mostly the dumb, bigoted CINOs?

[Barkworm]

Most people are idiots, sooooo...

[Vegita-San]

most people are un informed democrats who believe what the tee vee tells them.

[Coola Yagami]

Trump meant bigger trouble with things like Project 2025 and the tariffs. And before anyone says anything, stuff like trying to end birthright citizenship is right out of the Project 2025 playbook.

But vast majority of voters only saw 'no more woke, no more trans, Kamala is an idiot'and of course 'price of eggs' which everyone suddenly forgot about.

People didn't want Kamala, now we're stuck with the Orange Dumbass.

It's gonna be a rough 4 years. But the clowns asked for it.

[IndigoErth]

The great Egg Wall Trump will be unable to remove.

Don't be surprised if the price of chicken goes up as well as poultry and egg farms that are already or may end up hit by the newest spreading strain of bird flu lose a lot of birds.


edit: Why does "Orange Dumbass" sounds like a great cocktail name... lol ...with a dollop of orange or lemon (for the color) sherbet on top.

[Barkworm]

most people are un informed democrats who believe what the tee vee tells them.

Another great example of uneducated right-wingers trying to turn the world upside down.

[Mayhem]

Posted by Philip Low, founder of NeuroVigil (NV as ref in his post). Quite an insightful read by someone who knows Elon well.


I have known Elon Musk at a deep level for 14 years, well before he was a household name. We used to text frequently. He would come to my birthday party and invite me to his parties. He would tell me everything about his women problems. As sons of highly accomplished men who married venuses, were violent and lost their fortunes, and who were bullied in high school, we had a number of things in common most people cannot relate to. We would hang out together late in Los Angeles. He would visit my San Diego lab. He invested in my company.

Elon is not a Nazi, per se.

He is something much better, or much worse, depending on how you look at it.

Nazis believed that an entire race was above everyone else.

Elon believes he is above everyone else. He used to think he worked on the most important problems. When I met him, he did not presume to be a technical person — he would be the first to say that he lacked the expertise to understand certain data. That happened later. Now, he acts as if he has all the solutions.

All his talk about getting to Mars to “maintain the light of consciousness” or about “free speech absolutism” is actually BS Elon knowingly feeds people to manipulate them. Everything Elon does is about acquiring and consolidating power. That is why he likes far right parties, because they are easier to control. That is also why he gave himself $56 Billion which could have gone to the people actually doing the work and innovations he is taking credit for at Tesla (the reason he does not do patents is because he would not be listed as an inventor as putting a fake inventor on a patent would kill it and moreover it would reveal the superstars behind the work). His lust for power is also why he did xAI and Neuralink, to attempt to compete with OpenAI and NeuroVigil, respectively, despite being affiliated with them. Unlike Tesla and Twitter, he was unable to conquer those companies and tried to create rivals. He announced Neuralink just after I invited his ex-wife, which she and I notified him about, to a fundraising dinner for Hebrew University in London (The fact that she tried to kiss me — I immediately pushed her away — while taking a photo at that event, even if playfully, clearly may have added to the alienation he may have felt when she spoke to me in a pool at a party when they were together and she was naked. To not be disrespectful to her or to him, I stayed but looked at the sky whilst talking to her). I fired him with cause in December 2021 when he tried to undermine NV. It is ironic that years later, he clearly tried to undermine Twitter before buying it, and in my view, ruining it.

[Here is more detail as some people asked. After he received a press release draft confirming NV never took a penny from the US Government, he asked to be removed from the Business Advisory Board, but then tried to give the stock he bought back, including for no money, which could have completely crashed NV’s stock price. I told him he was fired from the BAB, with cause, as he admitted he had not been participating. That also meant he had no ability to exercise his stock options (years prior, despite not being allowed to discuss his investment because of a solid NDA, he/his people leaked to the press that he had invested twice as much in NV as he actually did, as if the stock options had been counted as stock). This is the email I sent him around that time:

“Elon,

Only one of us apparently knows the difference between Science and PR, and between friendship and phonies, and unfortunately you ain’t it.

Let’s cut ties here.

Your NV stock is not being transferred, and if you try to transfer it without my consent, in contravention of your stock purchase agreement, I will have to shove my boots so deep up your derrière, legally, that your pissing contest with Bezos will seem like it was from another life, one you want to get back to.

Good luck with your implants, all of them, and with building Pottersville on Mars.

Seriously, don’t **** with me.”

Elon has less than 0.05% of NV and was never a principal or principal investor in NV as was falsely reported by some. I own between 80 and 90%. NV is the most valuable neurotech company in the world and does not regard Neuralink which wants to do implants as a competitor because we do not regard that technology as scalable. Moreover most of Neuralink’s co-founders ditched Elon and the company.]

Elon did two Nazi salutes.

He did them for five main reasons:

1. He was concerned that the “Nazi wing” of the MAGA movement, under the influence of Steve Bannon, would drive him away from Trump, somewhere in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, rather than in the West Wing which is where he wants to be. He was already feeling raw over the fact that Trump did not follow his recommendation for Treasury Secretary and that the Senate also did not pick his first choice;

2. He was upset that he had had to go to Israel and Auschwitz to make up for agreeing with a Nazi sympathizer online and wanted to reclaim his “power” just like when he told advertisers to “go **** yourself”. This has nothing to do with Asperger’s;

3. There are some Jews he actually hates: Sam Altman is amongst them;

4. He enjoys a good thrill and knew exactly what he was doing;

5. His narcissistic self was hoping the audience would reflect his abject gesture back to him, thereby showing complete control and dominion over it, and increasing his leverage over Trump. That did not happen.

Bottom line: Elon is not a Nazi but he did give two Nazi Salutes, which is completely unacceptable.

————————————————� �—————————-

N.B. For the few whining about my post “sans connaissance the cause” and either trembling about my having shattered their illusions about their cult leader or thinking I am defending Elon:

I. My point is that he is transactional rather than ideological;

II. That being said, I am not defending him or his actions, just explaining them and confirming that he did, in fact, do two Nazi Salutes if anyone had doubts or believed the doctored footage of Taylor Swift doing the same thing to normalize what Elon did;

III. At some point, it matters to few people if one is a Nazi or if one acts like one. My father was a Holocaust Survivor. 32 out of 35 of his family members were murdered by Nazis. My mother’s grandparents were murdered in Auschwitz;

IV. After Elon tried to manipulate NV’s stock in 2021, I fired him with cause, and he was unable to exercise his stock options. In the aftermath of the Nazi Salutes, I told both him and his wealth manager to **** off. Any remaining friendship between us ended with the Nazi Salutes. He is blocked on my end and I am pretty sure I am blocked on his;

V. I did not share what he told me in confidence. I just happen to know him extremely well, the person, the aspirations and the Musk Mask;

VI. I know who I am, have no desire to be famous and give exceedingly few media interviews. I prefer to work in obscurity and let the work speak for itself. I am certainly not envious and would definitely not want Elon’s life, including living in a bubble and having to make one outlandish claim after another and manipulate the public, elections and governments to shore up my stock and prevent the bubble from bursting. Unlike Elon, I am an actual scientist and inventor and I am not pretending to be someone I am not, like a fellow who got his BA in Econ at 26 all of a sudden pretending to be an expert in mechanical engineering, chemistry, rocket science, neuroscience and AI and keeping the people actually doing the work hidden and paying people to play online games in his name to appear smart and feed his so-called “Supergenius” Personality Cult — the “Imperator” has no clothes, and he knows it. I am just very disappointed in what happened to someone I had a lot of deep admiration for and the first person to find out about my concerns about his behavior was always him;

VII. He is the one who betrayed a number of his friends, including Sergey, and, given his actions, many other people who believed him and believed in him. I have no sympathy for this behavior, and at some point, after having repeatedly confronted it in private, I believe the ethical thing to do is to speak out, forcefully and unapologetically, whatever the risks may be, so as to not be part of the timid flock remaining silent while evil is being done, including propping up far right governments around the world in part to deregulate his companies and become the first trillionaire and otherwise to “rule the planet” — he knows Mars won’t be terraformed in his lifetime and he really wants his planet. No joke… Ethics matter. People matter. The truth matters.

I took down Descartes (through the Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness) and I am definitely not afraid of a so-called inventor whose greatest invention is his image.

I will not be silent. You should not be either. I am a sovereign individual, and so are you. I stood up to bullies, and am stepping out of the dark to do it again.

[Mayhem]

Part 2 as it was just over the 10k post limit here

Stop working for him and being exploited by him. Sell your Tesla and dump your Tesla stock. Nikola Tesla was a great, creative and courageous man who led with ethics and by example and he would not have wanted for his good name to have been used by him and would agree with my principled stance. Sign off of “X” which is boosting far right propaganda, and of your Starlink as well. He is a complete **** (British slang not meant to be offensive to women) who doesn’t give a **** about you — only about power. Just ask Reid Hoffman. He only wants to control, dominate and use you — don’t let him and cut him and his businesses out of your and your loved ones’ lives entirely. Remember he is a total miserable self-loathing poser, and unless you happen to be one too, he will be much more afraid of you than you should ever be of him.

He will probably come after me, and I am completely fine with that. I am a self-made multibillionaire with an armada of lawyers — literally — and most importantly, I know who I am and who I stand for, the people and their freedoms, whatever happens. He can send his dumb Proud Boys and Oath Keepers after me and they will be butchered on sight. Either way, I would rather die with honor than live as a coward.

“Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” — Elie Wiesel, Holocaust Survivor and Nobel Peace Prize laureate

[Autbot_Benz]

Trump has frozen SNAP and Food Stamps and other federal aid

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/27/trump-freezes-federal-aid-omb-00200891

[Coola Yagami]

Trump has frozen SNAP and Food Stamps and other federal aid

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/27/trump-freezes-federal-aid-omb-00200891

OK.... wtf...??? Like why??? While I don't use SNAP personally, I know people that do to help make ends meet and you know... eat... while paying the rest of their bills.

WTF. So what is Trump's plan here? 'Just don't be poor, LOL'.

**** that guy.

[Andrew NDB]

The only guy I personally am friends with who uses SNAP, every month his SNAP gets refilled, he hits me up and my other buddy to try and sell it all to us. i.e., we meet him and he'll buy whatever groceries we want, and we give him cash, like 2/3 of the value or sometimes less. He then just goes off and buys candy and weed with the money we give him. And he's far from the only one I know of (my other buddy's sister, their mom, too).

Which isn't to say this kind is the rule and not the exception... but maybe that a great deal more scrutiny needs to be applied with this program within its DNA, for sure, without us continuing to throw tax dollars at these people blindly.

[Autbot_Benz]

OK.... wtf...??? Like why??? While I don't use SNAP personally, I know people that do to help make ends meet and you know... eat... while paying the rest of their bills.

WTF. So what is Trump's plan here? 'Just don't be poor, LOL'.

**** that guy.

if you're not a RICH white male Trump doesn't give one **** about you. :lol:

[ResidentEvil7]

I just checked my SNAP account on the phone, and according to the answer machine, my account is still active with $300 in balance; and I'm scheduled to continue getting SNAP on the 7th of every month until October 2026, then I'll have to reapply. I'm still getting $251 a month.

Last night, I also checked my SSI account, and it's also still active, expecting to get $644.67 later this week.

Just another hateful liberal lying about Trump as usual. You people here hate the man so much (mainly because you're brainwashed), you even lie about him with the hopes of making him look bad and his supporters scared!

You liberals all over the world are just horrible people; and you have the nerve to call US uneducated cultists?! At least conservatives know what a woman is; how many genders there are; that transgender is made up for people suffering with an identity crisis!

[CyberCubed]

Poor people in the U.S. gonna be screwed soon. Does Trump realize there are also poor white people? He probably thinks all the people relying on government aid are hispanics or other minorities. Most people on this stuff are white as well.

[Autbot_Benz]

I just checked my SNAP account on the phone, and according to the answer machine, my account is still active with $300 in balance; and I'm scheduled to continue getting SNAP on the 7th of every month until October 2026, then I'll have to reapply. I'm still getting $251 a month.

Last night, I also checked my SSI account, and it's also still active, expecting to get $644.67 later this week.

Just another hateful liberal lying about Trump as usual. You people here hate the man so much (mainly because you're brainwashed), you even lie about him with the hopes of making him look bad and his supporters scared!

You liberals all over the world are just horrible people; and you have the nerve to call US uneducated cultists?! At least conservatives know what a woman is; how many genders there are; that transgender is made up for people suffering with an identity crisis!

there is a literal official document saying they are freezing federal aid : get your head out of Trump's ass

https://i.imgur.com/XdqcUfj.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/Nenrc5d.jpeg

[Coola Yagami]

The only guy I personally am friends with who uses SNAP, every month his SNAP gets refilled, he hits me up and my other buddy to try and sell it all to us. i.e., we meet him and he'll buy whatever groceries we want, and we give him cash, like 2/3 of the value or sometimes less. He then just goes off and buys candy and weed with the money we give him. And he's far from the only one I know of (my other buddy's sister, their mom, too).

Which isn't to say this kind is the rule and not the exception... but maybe that a great deal more scrutiny needs to be applied with this program within its DNA, for sure, without us continuing to throw tax dollars at these people blindly.

I'm no pillar of virtue and all that, but the people I know actually use them for their intended purpose and aren't into alcohol or weed or whatever else. It sucks that several bad apples ruin for those truly in need.

I just checked my SNAP account on the phone, and according to the answer machine, my account is still active with $300 in balance; and I'm scheduled to continue getting SNAP on the 7th of every month until October 2026, then I'll have to reapply. I'm still getting $251 a month.



That you know of. Pausing SNAP doesn't mean your balance is suddenly going to drop to 0 if you have anything now. You'll keep your 300, but you won't get anything next month, if Trump does indeed freeze SNAP.

[ResidentEvil7]

Yeah, whatever. You lie about Trump because you hate and fear him.

I told you that I just checked my benefits accounts and they're all still active. So take that article and SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS!

[Coola Yagami]

Yeah, whatever. You lie about Trump because you hate and fear him.

I told you that I just checked my benefits accounts and they're all still active. So take that article and SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS!

How dense are you or are you just trolling? The order doesn't start til 5PM. Like read the actual document that your ****ing messiah signed off on.

[IMJ]

I did Casework for about a year giving SNAP, TANF and Medical to people. Don't even get me started on what I saw and experienced in that shitshow.

[Autbot_Benz]

Looks like Meals on Wheels might be affected by this too

Meals on Wheels America spox on OMB pause:

"the uncertainty right now is creating chaos for local Meals on Wheels providers not knowing whether they should be serving meals today. Which unfortunately means seniors will panic not knowing where their next meals will come from."

https://x.com/ArthurDelaneyHP/status/1884257138421424387

[Coola Yagami]

Looks like Meals on Wheels might be affected by this too



https://x.com/ArthurDelaneyHP/status/1884257138421424387

but but but at least the price of eggs will go down, right???

****ing assholes and idiots.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

OK.... wtf...??? Like why??? While I don't use SNAP personally, I know people that do to help make ends meet and you know... eat... while paying the rest of their bills.

WTF. So what is Trump's plan here? 'Just don't be poor, LOL'.

**** that guy.

Watch the obesity rate go down.

[Coola Yagami]

Watch the obesity rate go down.

You're assuming every poor person on SNAP or Meals on Wheels and such is fat....

[FredWolfLeonardo]

You're assuming every poor person on SNAP or Meals on Wheels and such is fat....

Too many are.

We can't MAGA if people are leeching off the system. Look at all the debt the government has. Sorry but your social programs have to go. Trump did the right thing.
Don't be sad RE7, you want to get a job. Don't be a RINO and help make this country great. There are hundreds of jobs being created every day thanks to trump deportations. No excuses now, they accept everyone. Hope you're good at picking up fruit. My veggies aren't going pick themselves up you know.
Get to work RE7

BASED

[Coola Yagami]

We can't MAGA if people are leeching off the system. Look at all the debt the government has. Sorry but your social programs have to go. Trump did the right thing.
Don't be sad RE7, you want to get a job. Don't be a RINO and help make this country great. There are hundreds of jobs being created every day thanks to trump deportations. No excuses now, they accept everyone. Hope you're good at picking up fruit. My veggies aren't going pick themselves up you know.
Get to work RE7

You realize some people have jobs and still need help from these social programs. These programs exists for a reason.

If y'all really want 'MAGA' then drop the ****ing cost of living. Like now.

[CyberCubed]

sdp isn't being serious y'know. :lol:

But for people like the guy above on SNAP, things might be getting serious soon.

[Mayhem]

It’s all gone very very mysoginistic in the US.

Biggest beneficiary of DEI programs - white women (only 4% of DEI hires were black)
Biggest user of SNAP - single working female parents
Reversal of Roe vs Wade

There was a very informed and balanced opinion piece I saw yesterday (pity I didn’t save the link) that went into why increasing numbers of young white males were turning to right wing solutions. But it effectively summed up a combination of women doing better in education, men falling off in education, women being more successful and financially stable and thus not needing to “partner” with a man for future survival, the changing workplace dynamic, fewer men entering the workforce… when you look at all that, no wonder you have increasing numbers of under 30s looking at ways to get back to the top of the food chain when they are no longer qualified to do so, angry at the world that they are no longer “top dog” and get inspired by the likes of Trump and Andrew Tate who hate women.

All these policies and parts of Project 2025 designed to get women out of the workplace and subjugated again. All the bots on X spewing propaganda how it was better when women stayed at home to look after the family and men were the sole provider. All designed to convince a demographic they are still relevant and they can fight this rising tide, when in fact it’s their own inadequacies that have led to their situations. Not women. Not minorities. Them. And everything Trump has done since coming back to office has been designed to put white men back at the top of the pecking order.

I pity all the white women especially who voted for Trump because by hell, he’s doing his best to absolutely rip away all the rights you ever fought for.

[Coola Yagami]

These idiots better at least drop the cost of living. They're so busy wanting women to be stay at home housewives, they forget that the days where you could afford to have the man to be the sole provider of a family of 4 or 5 are looooooooong gone.

[IMJ]

If y'all really want 'MAGA' then drop the ****ing cost of living. Like now.

That's the point. Freezing Federal spending is a significant trickle down effect to reducing inflation - hence fixing the cost of living like you've asked for above.

This eliminates frivolous spending from the government which means that as people tighten up and spend more wisely the markets will react with cheaper prices to move goods and inventory. It's a fiscal policy action.

This is part of what it takes to fix what the liberals have let unfold onto the economy. And it won't last forever. If anything the "complaints" about this really show the true perception-of-entitlement of people in America...

[Coola Yagami]

That's the point. Freezing Federal spending is a significant trickle down effect to reducing inflation

We'll see. Usually that 'trickle down effect' either doesn't happen or it doesn't trickle down to the people that actually need more money in their pocket.

[CyberCubed]

Medicaid to be shut down:

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:ydtsvzzsl6nlfkmnuooeqcmc/post/3lgt2ng5xms2o?ref_src=embed

Good luck, everyone!

[Coola Yagami]

Medicaid to be shut down:

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:ydtsvzzsl6nlfkmnuooeqcmc/post/3lgt2ng5xms2o?ref_src=embed

Good luck, everyone!

"Just don't get sick, lol"

Also can this ****er slow down? I miss the days he was wasting his days playing golf and arguing on Twitter over windmills.

[Mayhem]

These idiots better at least drop the cost of living. They're so busy wanting women to be stay at home housewives, they forget that the days where you could afford to have the man to be the sole provider of a family of 4 or 5 are looooooooong gone.
You touch on a point I forgot to mention, regarding the push I see, especially countless posts from Herr Musk about needing to increase the birth rate in Western countries. Or more precisely, more of the babies he wants, and less of the babies he doesn’t want (ie blacks and minorities) who tend to breed more on average. Which also leads me back to the misogynistic approach to this target. Guess what the leading reasons are for white women having less babies over the last hundred years is, ignoring child health on average has been improving? Education and wealth. Keep them dumb and in the home, and boom, endless baby factories producing more Arian converts.

[Mayhem]

"Just don't get sick, lol"

Also can this ****er slow down? I miss the days he was wasting his days playing golf and arguing on Twitter over windmills.
He HAS been playing golf the last two days :lol: these are all happening via other people on his orders…

[Coola Yagami]

You touch on a point I forgot to mention, regarding the push I see, especially countless posts from Herr Musk about needing to increase the birth rate in Western countries. Or more precisely, more of the babies he wants, and less of the babies he doesn’t want (ie blacks and minorities) who tend to breed more on average. Which also leads me back to the misogynistic approach to this target. Guess what the leading reasons are for white women having less babies over the last hundred years is, ignoring child health on average has been improving? Education and wealth. Keep them dumb and in the home, and boom, endless baby factories producing more Arian converts.

True but who's gonna pay to raise em, or pay to feed them and the wife. If the man is gonna be the sole provider, they better start bringing on twice the minimum wage at least as the starting wage for any job. Can't have more whiteboys if they die from starvation or homelessness before they even reach adulthood.

I mean for the last decade every time you see an old movie, show or whatever where only the man is providing for the family of 4 or 5 and whatnot, the thought of 'yeah, those were the days' always comes up. And it wasn't so much because 'women in the workplace', it was more cause back then you could afford living comfortably with only one person working. The irony being, some women do wish they could stay home all day, but they literally can't afford to.

[ResidentEvil7]

It's now past 5 PM in Washington DC (4PM in Chicago) and I just checked my SSI and SNAP accounts and according to the site or answering machine, still active. Something isn't adding up. You guys and the media said that the Federal funding freeze took effect but my account sites are indicating that everything is just fine.

I have an image of my account's page stating that my SSI account is still ACTIVE, but I don't know how to insert an image without a BROWSE... feature. My image isn't on a http:// page.

[IndigoErth]

Impacting Meals on Wheels is low. Not only does that get a meal to seniors, but someone stopping by is also kind of a casual check that they're okay.

I just checked my SNAP account on the phone, and according to the answer machine, my account is still active with $300 in balance; and I'm scheduled to continue getting SNAP on the 7th of every month until October 2026, then I'll have to reapply. I'm still getting $251 a month.
As Coola pointed out, that doesn't mean it's going to reflect it instantly or have the current money removed. If the 7th is when you typically receive it... well, then you can let us know what happens end of next week, huh?

I hope those who do need it do get it. I hope that those who'd be stuck without healthcare don't lose it. Wondering if I'll have to cancel my doctor's appointment next month, being one of the Medicaid people.

[Andrew NDB]

If the article on CNN is to believed, this is all some kind of big mistake and it'll all be remedied soon.

[ResidentEvil7]

I'm expected to get next month's SSI payment deposit either tomorrow or Thursday at the latest. I'll let you know by Saturday on the 1st of the next month or sooner what happens. Usually I get my SSI deposits before each month ends and my SNAP on the 7th.

[IndigoErth]

Something in there looked like it said that social security and Medicare aren't supposed to be impacted, so hopefully the SSI for you won't be hit, likewise the SS for the parents of probably many of us if not most.

Hope off kilter rumors don't run rampant on Facebook. Last we need is the FB addicted Boomers crapping themselves over it and stressing their kids out 2nd hand.

[ResidentEvil7]

Just seconds ago on ABC 7 Chicago from the White House Press Secretary that food stamps and welfare among other things will NOT be effected by the pause. So I should be OK based on what I heard from local news.

I'm glad that you care enough about my wellbeing IndigoErth because there's people on this site that I'm sure of want me to suffer to death. Someone, I won't name who, said in a PM last week that I should get my life fixed or end it because I don't have a Facebook page that he wants to be friends with me.

[member_removed]

If the article on CNN is to believed, this is all some kind of big mistake and it'll all be remedied soon.

Oh yeah, CNN Communist News Network. Fake News! Stop spreading your Liberal agenda!

[Mayhem]

Trump tells federal law enforcement to divert resources away from drug trafficking and terrorism to focus on prosecuring undocumented immigrants. All that screaming about fentanyl and he does that... also because of the hiring freeze, all the new DoJ job offers have been rescinded so there won't be any new people coming on board to work the drug/terrorism cases being looked at by the people now doing the re-entry cases!

[ResidentEvil7]

Well, my SSI DID come in a few minutes ago. Now I went from $320 to $965 and I just paid off my Visa. So that's not an issue. I also heard that food stamps are not effected by press secretary.

I think I'll go out to celebrate the Lunar New Years for sushi this evening.

[Andrew NDB]

https://i.ibb.co/qZ81S2x/475581329-9486005571423547-7603224003615379852-n.jpg

[IMJ]

I see the "eggs are expensive" thing everywhere as if that's the litmus test. None of the leftist nuts say anything about the poor deaths of millions of chickens everywhere because of the bird flu as to why eggs are expensive though.

The leftist-nuts don't value animal life and are exploiting it. What a mess!

:teek:

[Mayhem]

Biden was blamed for inflation (untrue). Biden was criticised for taking a vacation and DonOLD has already spent two days playing golf since being sworn in. He promised eggs would be down and Ukraine war over by day 1. If the MAGtwats kept hounding Biden for things not happening during his tenure, I sure as don't blame Democrat supporters doing the same every single day while the orange cockwomble is at the helm.

The leftist-nuts don't value animal life and are exploiting it. What a mess!
The right don't value human life, at least not after it's been born...

Well, my SSI DID come in a few minutes ago. Now I went from $320 to $965 and I just paid off my Visa. So that's not an issue. I also heard that food stamps are not effected by press secretary.
They've rescinded the memo... for now...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyv48540n4po

[Andrew NDB]

Biden was blamed for inflation (untrue).

What on earth do you think the "Inflation Reduction Act" (AKA, the Green New Deal repackaged) did, or all of those trillions upon trillions of dollars of checks and special unemployment to forcibly shut down the economy and pay everyone to stay home did?

[Mayhem]

What on earth do you think the "Inflation Reduction Act" (AKA, the Green New Deal repackaged) did, or all of those trillions upon trillions of dollars of checks and special unemployment to forcibly shut down the economy and pay everyone to stay home did?
Or the fact that most of the developed countries in the world experienced the same inflation at the same time? Due to Saudis culling oil production, the war in Ukraine affecting supplies of many crops and other marketables, shifting demands as a result, yes the aftermath in COVID in a way, and good old fashioned price gouging being some but not all of the factors.

If you think inflation rising was just a US thing, get your head out of the sand.

[Coola Yagami]

Blah blah blah. The price of eggs was one of the main talking points. It's time for Trump to put up or shut up.

This is gonna become the new wall. Another unfulfilled promise the dumb****s fell for. If anything eggs will go higher and his cult will thank him for it.

[IMJ]

Blah blah blah. The price of eggs was one of the main talking points. It's time for Trump to put up or shut up.

This is gonna become the new wall. Another unfulfilled promise the dumb****s fell for. If anything eggs will go higher and his cult will thank him for it.

The guy has been in office for like 9 or 10 days now. :lol:
It will be fine.

The Fed didn't reduce rates today and the markets still respond nicely to it.

[Coola Yagami]

The guy has been in office for like 9 or 10 days now. :lol:
It will be fine.

The Fed didn't reduce rates today and the markets still respond nicely to it.

We'll see. That should have been top priority over the deportation stuff. It's why most of these clowns voted for him.

[IMJ]

We'll see. That should have been top priority over the deportation stuff. It's why most of these clowns voted for him.

You have to look at government efficiencies across different operating models.

Deportation only requires an order and physical people respond immediately to it. There is no lag time.

Adjusting fiscal policy to impact a financial system is a series of moves and cross-temporal adjustments. There is lag time.

[member_removed]

I see the "eggs are expensive" thing everywhere as if that's the litmus test. None of the leftist nuts say anything about the poor deaths of millions of chickens everywhere because of the bird flu as to why eggs are expensive though.

The leftist-nuts don't value animal life and are exploiting it. What a mess!

:teek:

And Gas went up under Biden coming out of Covid as supply and demand went up, there are always outside factors that contribute too.

Still I'm waiting for little stickers of Trump pointing, to be placed near price tags for eggs with the "I did that".

[Mayhem]

Still I'm waiting for little stickers of Trump pointing, to be placed near price tags for eggs with the "I did that".
Stop giving people good ideas ;)

In other news, I haven't seen any major comment about the crash over Washington, but I'm just waiting on someone to blame it on Trump...

(just last week, Trump FIRED the heads of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) and the Coast Guard, and disbanded the Aviation Security Advisory Committee.)

Also Trump will sign an EO basically making criticism of Israel punishable by up to deportation. After 249 years, Israel has now destroyed the First Amendment.

[Andrew NDB]

Also Trump will sign an EO basically making criticism of Israel punishable by up to deportation. After 249 years, Israel has now destroyed the First Amendment.

You mean like the immigrants that come here on student visas then chant about how great Hamas is/how everything from the river to the sea in Israel should be purged on college campuses (generally the same bunch that go for extra credit with "Death to America!")? That's GREAT NEWS! Promises kept. Send them packing and make examples of them.

[CyberCubed]

https://apnews.com/article/trump-signs-laken-riley-act-immigration-crackdown-30a34248fa984d8d46b809c3e6d8731a

Trump planning to open concentration camps to send "the worst illegal immigrants" to Guantanamo Bay.

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he is directing the opening of a detention center at Guantanamo Bay to hold up to 30,000 migrants who are living illegally in the United States.

Trump made the announcement right before he signed the Laken Riley Act into law as his administration's first piece of legislation. The bipartisan measure means that people who are in the U.S. illegally and are accused of theft and violent crimes would have to be detained and potentially deported even before a conviction.

[Mayhem]

You mean like the immigrants that come here on student visas then chant about how great Hamas is/how everything from the river to the sea in Israel should be purged on college campuses (generally the same bunch that go for extra credit with "Death to America!")? That's GREAT NEWS! Promises kept. Send them packing and make examples of them.
Not just students or immigrants… anyone pretty much can be punished. Yes, US citizens too. Which is why I said “up to deportation”.

[Andrew NDB]

Not just students or immigrants… anyone pretty much can be punished. Yes, US citizens too. Which is why I said “up to deportation”.

Nonsense. Article?

[IMJ]

Still I'm waiting for little stickers of Trump pointing, to be placed near price tags for eggs with the "I did that".

:lol::lol: That's hysterical!

[Mayhem]

Nonsense. Article?
The actual order itself.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/additional-measures-to-combat-anti-semitism/

While worded to address campus led anti Israel demonstrations, the general wording basically means all anti semitism action could led to prosecution. And in the US right now, criticising Israel is basically the same thing. What was that about free speech and the government not intervening? Yep, perfectly fine to abuse Muslims and blacks and immigrants though…

[CyberCubed]

I guess Coola was right to be concerned given he is a hispanic. Even legally born citizens can be deported if they're deemed "dangerous."

Coola, I hope you and your family stock up on firearms and a supply bunker. You're going to need it. ;)

[Andrew NDB]

The actual order itself.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/additional-measures-to-combat-anti-semitism/

While worded to address campus led anti Israel demonstrations, the general wording basically means all anti semitism action could led to prosecution. And in the US right now, criticising Israel is basically the same thing. What was that about free speech and the government not intervening? Yep, perfectly fine to abuse Muslims and blacks and immigrants though…

You're nuts. There's nothing in there about deporting legally born citizens. And yes, why wouldn't even citizens be able to be punished when they're shouting "Death to Israel!" if you're an Israeli student and they're waving signs in your face every time you go to class?

[Coola Yagami]

I guess Coola was right to be concerned given he is a hispanic. Even legally born citizens can be deported if they're deemed "dangerous."

Coola, I hope you and your family stock up on firearms and a supply bunker. You're going to need it. ;)

Ironically fully stocking up on weapons and such would end up deeming me as dangerous lmao.

What would they get me for? ****ing April without a license?

[Andrew NDB]

Ironically fully stocking up on weapons and such would end up deeming me as dangerous lmao.

No, no, that was the last administration.

[Coola Yagami]

No, no, that was the last administration.

In all seriousness, Andrew, ICE can and will detain you if you're wrong place, wrong time and look a certain way. Assuming they don't flat out deport you anyway, they can still detain for however long they feel like it as they check up on your paperwork and IDs and whatnot... if they feel like it.

Wasn't it last week where Trump's ICE raids grabbed some citizens and even a veteran that served our country over in Jersey?

I don't personally know anyone undocumented, but if you do, you better not hang out them in public too much. They'll grab all of you and if you get the wrong guy on the wrong day with a bad mood, your citizenship won't mean squat even if you were born here.

[Andrew NDB]

In all seriousness, Andrew, ICE can and will detain you if you're wrong place, wrong time and look a certain way. Assuming they don't flat out deport you anyway, they can still detain for however long they feel like it as they check up on your paperwork and IDs and whatnot... if they feel like it.

I mean, whatever. They have to do what they have to do, particularly in "Sanctuary Cities" where they have to go in and really root them out since they aren't allowed to just grab them out of jails or prisons. "Detained"? Pfft. For what, an hour? Here's my ID, feel free and run it. OK, free to go? Thanksbye.

I don't personally know anyone undocumented, but if you do, you better not hang out them in public too much.

I know and am friends with literally tons. And 60 people parties almost every other weekend they host. Not scared in the slightest, on any level.

[sdp]

You're letting your 'tism become racism.

[Andrew NDB]

You're letting your 'tism become racism.

We get it. You don't know what words mean. You don't need to keep the act going.

You just have to ask yourself... WWTGD?

(What Would Tom Green Do?)

[CyberCubed]

I'm really surprised we don't hear about all the illegal Asian immigrants. In China Town in Manhattan alone there's got to be TONS of Chinese who are here illegally, some families bring over their grandparents or uncles/aunts from China who are not U.S. citizens and they just stay here and live in the same house.

Trump is so obsessed with hispanics and muslims that the sheer mass of Asian immigrants is overlooked. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if half the chinese cooks in your favorite chinese restaurant are not legal citizens.

[member_removed]

Stop giving people good ideas ;)

:lol::lol: That's hysterical!


Available online people.
https://www.etsy.com/market/trump_stickers_i_did_that

[Mayhem]

You're nuts. There's nothing in there about deporting legally born citizens. And yes, why wouldn't even citizens be able to be punished when they're shouting "Death to Israel!" if you're an Israeli student and they're waving signs in your face every time you go to class?
I said "up to deportation", which appears to be the general mantra de jour of the incoming Trump empire for anyone not born in the US. So I wouldn't expect anything as severe as that for anyone born in the US, although as we've seen, ICE are rounding up anyone who doesn't look white to check them, and the administration is trying to remove citizenship from Native Americans.

So Jews shouting death to Arabs is perfectly fine? Or basically Israel destroying Gaza and the West Bank one block at a time?

I know and am friends with literally tons. And 60 people parties almost every other weekend they host. Not scared in the slightest, on any level.
That's because so far they've only been targetting heavy blue states. Nothing in Texas or Florida yet, weird that...

I don't personally know anyone undocumented, but if you do, you better not hang out them in public too much. They'll grab all of you and if you get the wrong guy on the wrong day with a bad mood, your citizenship won't mean squat even if you were born here.
If you are not a citizen but you are legally in the country (visa, green card etc), you are required by law to carry your documents on you at all times anyhow. Non white skin, no documents, right, we're initiaiting the cavity search...

[FredWolfLeonardo]

So Jews shouting death to Arabs is perfectly fine? Or basically Israel destroying Gaza and the West Bank one block at a time?

All foreign conflicts should be of no concern to the United States, strictly speaking.

But Trump did the impossible by stopping that war. And he did it by addressing the root of the problem, which is that Israel controls the USA.

No US president in recent memory has stood up to the Deep State like Trump has. And the reality is that the Deep State is run by Israel.

[Coola Yagami]

I said "up to deportation", which appears to be the general mantra de jour of the incoming Trump empire for anyone not born in the US. So I wouldn't expect anything as severe as that for anyone born in the US, although as we've seen, ICE are rounding up anyone who doesn't look white to check them, and the administration is trying to remove citizenship from Native Americans.

So Jews shouting death to Arabs is perfectly fine? Or basically Israel destroying Gaza and the West Bank one block at a time?


That's because so far they've only been targetting heavy blue states. Nothing in Texas or Florida yet, weird that...


If you are not a citizen but you are legally in the country (visa, green card etc), you are required by law to carry your documents on you at all times anyhow. Non white skin, no documents, right, we're initiaiting the cavity search...

So... Stop and Frisk, huh?

[Mayhem]

All foreign conflicts should be of no concern to the United States, strictly speaking.

But Trump did the impossible by stopping that war. And he did it by addressing the root of the problem, which is that Israel controls the USA.

No US president in recent memory has stood up to the Deep State like Trump has. And the reality is that the Deep State is run by Israel.
Aside from the fact Biden was still in power when the ceasefire agreement was signed. I don't think he's really addressed the root of the problem now by effectively outlawing any criticism of Jewish people or Israel. If anything, he's more up their backsides than ever.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Aside from the fact Biden was still in power when the ceasefire agreement was signed. I don't think he's really addressed the root of the problem now by effectively outlawing any criticism of Jewish people or Israel. If anything, he's more up their backsides than ever.

There clearly is some behind the scenes deal where Trump has made some concessions to them. After all, he took $100 million from Miriam Adleson, the richest Israeli in the world who has had influence over his campaign.

But at the same time, its important to recognise that just as the Israel lobby has had leverage over Trump, so too has Trump had leverage over them. He was able to use this leverage to intimidate Israel into a deal which they would've otherwise never agreed to.

As evidence, there was a very similar ceasefire proposal back in June 2024 but it never managed to pass as a deal. What was different in January 2025 which caused a deal to be made?

It was the coming of Trump and his threat that there would be hell to pay if the situation is not resolved. There was something about Trump which made American Jews overwhelmingly vote for Kamala, and her loss has left many of them in an uncomfortable position.

[Mayhem]

It was the coming of Trump and his threat that there would be hell to pay if the situation is not resolved. There was something about Trump which made American Jews overwhelmingly vote for Kamala, and her loss has left many of them in an uncomfortable position.
Because one of Trump’s rally pledges was to pull support and funding for Israel if the conflict didn’t resolve. Bluff or truth? Who knows.

[Autbot_Benz]

The Trump Tarrifs go into effect tomorrow Tarrifs on Mexico China and Canada.


Canada and Mexico will get slapped with 25% and China 10% (for now)

[sdp]

Begun the tariff wars has

your wallets are not ready

[oldmanwinters]

The Trump Tarrifs go into effect tomorrow Tarrifs on Mexico China and Canada.


Canada and Mexico will get slapped with 25% and China 10% (for now)

Personally, I would have flipped those percentages around.

[IndigoErth]

Why is China less? Mexico may have a history of letting their issues bleed outside of their boarders, so I get that we're not on the best terms, but Canada? Why do a friend like that.

That Onterio ad I've seen on tv just makes me sad in light of that.

d0BrOlGVmDM

[sdp]

Trump doesn't understand macroeconomics, and of course pno one in this forum does either. He's treating the country like it's microeconomics because it's what he knows. It'll be interesting to see how things turn out, this will be studied for years.

Why is China less? Mexico may have a history of letting their issues bleed outside of their boarders, so I get that we're not on the best terms, but Canada? Why do a friend like that.

That Onterio ad I've seen on tv just makes me sad in light of that.

d0BrOlGVmDM

Mexico is a bigger trading partner. If the US is going to kick anyone out it'd be Canada not Mexico. Canada is mostly irrelevant to Mexico and the US. Canada needs both more than the other way around.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Why is China less?

Maybe its because of Trump and Xi Jinping's friendship?

[CyberCubed]

Everything going to get more expensive soon. Most people have no idea how tariffs work.

[Mayhem]

Mexico is a bigger trading partner. If the US is going to kick anyone out it'd be Canada not Mexico. Canada is mostly irrelevant to Mexico and the US. Canada needs both more than the other way around.
A significant percentage of US crude oil and timber comes from Canada. Definitely NOT irrelevant especially because it’s the type of oil that most US refineries are adapted to process, not the US own oil.

[sdp]

Lol tariffs aren't happening, market is already pricing without tariffs.
He's not a dumbass, it would destroy the Canadian and Mexican economy but hurt the US economy so much Republicans would be asking for his resignation.
I wonder how well of a tactic it's working in the negotiations.

[IndigoErth]

He's not a dumbass


You underestimate him.

[Mayhem]

And so it all reveals and continues… revenge and extortion…


Elon Musk staff has been caught plugging in hard drives inside the Office of Personnel Management (OPM), the Treasury Department, and the General Services Administration (GSA). His staff encountered resistance when demanding that Treasury officials grant access to systems managing the flow of more than $6 trillion annually to programs like Social Security and Medicare. Tensions escalated when Musk’s aides were discovered at OPM accessing systems, including a vast database known as the Enterprise Human Resources Integration (EHRI), which contains sensitive information such as dates of birth, Social Security numbers, performance appraisals, home addresses, pay grades, and length of service for government employees. In response to employees speaking out, Musk’s aides locked civil servants out of computer systems and offices, with reports of personal items being searched.


The Trump administration is set to expand a purge of career law enforcement officials, demanding the names of those who worked on January 6, 2021, US Capitol attack and Trump-related investigations for potential removal – a move that could affect thousands.

Leaders of the FBI were instructed Friday to provide the Justice Department by Tuesday information about all current and former bureau employees who “at any time” worked on January 6 investigations, according to an email from acting FBI director Brian Driscoll and obtained by CNN.

The Justice Department, according to the email, will review those employees to “determine whether any additional personnel actions are necessary.”

[ToTheNines]

Link on the first one?

[Mayhem]

Link on the first one?
How many do you want?

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/31/musk-aides-lock-government-workers-out-of-computer-systems-at-us-agency-reuters.html
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-aides-lock-government-workers-out-computer-systems-us-agency-sources-say-2025-01-31/
https://www.threads.net/@hollymatheson/post/DFgumbZtwfw
https://www.facebook.com/AltUSNationalParkService/posts/elon-musk-staff-has-been-caught-installing-hard-drives-inside-the-office-of-pers/1022397466597112/
https://www.newsbreak.com/mediaite-520570/3786195467552-musk-aides-lock-federal-employees-out-of-computer-system-no-visibility-into-what-they-are-doing


It is much worse than previously reported. Not only were at least 30 federal attorneys who worked on January 6 cases fired, but all six of the FBI's most senior executives and multiple heads of field offices have been escorted out

[ToTheNines]

Damn. Hope they go to jail.

[Autbot_Benz]

And so it all reveals and continues… revenge and extortion…



Damn. Hope they go to jail.



ya more proof Musk is a slimy peice of ****. him and his aids should go to jail

[Mayhem]

And on… out with the Trump criticals, in with the right wing news supporters… at this rate, the US is going to look like Nazi Germany by the midterms in regards to how much control they have over the country and media.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-pentagon-says-it-will-rotate-out-some-media-offices-2025-02-01/

[IMJ]

And on… out with the Trump criticals, in with the right wing news supporters… at this rate, the US is going to look like Nazi Germany by the midterms in regards to how much control they have over the country and media.

You are so full of $#!( with your ongoing sabre rattling that I can see the brown in your eyes through the screen at this point.

It isn't going to work. $#!(bags going on about "Nazis" and other weird "enemies from within" lost. You're still hanging on to the tactics from 2016 that confused your average peasant-thinker. But now even most of those people have walked from the manipulation. Only the most lost, angry and ludicrous are still swinging that small stick hoping to hit a homer.

"Nazi America" was when the psycho-left was politically persecuting their opponent. Not now that the house cleaning has begun.

[ResidentEvil7]

I think I'm going to avoid this subject from now on, because of all the fighting, negativity and it's just pure nasty.

[Vegita-San]

and most of that is comming from the 'summer of love' side.
enjoy the next four years. 'Merica is back.

and with luck, 8 years of vance.

[CyberCubed]

and most of that is comming from the 'summer of love' side.
enjoy the next four years. 'Merica is back.

and with luck, 8 years of vance.

You're going to be paying more for everything, have fun.

[Coola Yagami]

I think I'm going to avoid this subject from now on, because of all the fighting, negativity and it's just pure nasty.

The Republicans are in power now. You expected anything different?

[Andrew NDB]

The same people that were all expert virologists during COVID are now expert economists. Great!

[Mayhem]

"Nazi America" was when the psycho-left was politically persecuting their opponent. Not now that the house cleaning has begun.
And Trump right now isn’t politically persecuting people? All the firings, especially anyone involved with investigating January 6… sure…

Meanwhile Trump’s anti DEI signings are doing things like this, which is pretty much petty and over the top. So seriously, wiping out black and female achievements in history too? :roll:


https://i.imgur.com/KS20XWJ.jpeg


Americans are too whiny at the most minimal sign of inflation.
Although apparently people on that side are fine with price rises as long as the dirty non whites are kicked out.

The same people that were all expert virologists during COVID are now expert economists. Great!
At least I took economics at university as part of my masters course… the immediate read is, fuel prices be going up due to the reliance on Canadian crude. Depends how much supply the US has in reserve.

[Coola Yagami]

And Trump right now isn’t politically persecuting people? All the firings, especially anyone involved with investigating January 6… sure…

Meanwhile Trump’s anti DEI signings are doing things like this, which is pretty much petty and over the top. So seriously, wiping out black and female achievements in history too? :roll:


https://i.imgur.com/KS20XWJ.jpeg



Although apparently people on that side are fine with price rises as long as the dirty non whites are kicked out.


At least I took economics at university as part of my masters course… the immediate read is, fuel prices be going up due to the reliance on Canadian crude. Depends how much supply the US has in reserve.

I am not condoning this in any way, but people angry at this are the same people that were taking down statues and defacing art at art museums because they were done by the 'wrong people'.

I'd say at the very least, they are just covering them up where one can easily just go over and take those covers off. They aren't all out smashing them or defacing them the way the left would.

[IndigoErth]

but people angry at this are the same people that were taking down statues and defacing art at art museums because they were done by the 'wrong people'.

Eh, really a different kind of situation. Defacing art, yeah, that's horrible, don't do that crap. The other... I mean, the statues thing was more about no longer giving public honor to people who did or stood for horrible things, like slavery.

I don't really care if a community decides to update what it has on display, they can always put up a statue to honor someone else, but IMO move the 'dishonored' ones to a museum exhibit associated with the history that person was a part of instead, don't deface them.

In contrast, I looked up one of those mentioned women last night:

Elizebeth Smith Friedman (August 26, 1892 – October 31, 1980) was an American cryptanalyst and author who deciphered enemy codes in both World Wars and helped to solve international smuggling cases during Prohibition. Over the course of her career, she worked for the United States Treasury, Coast Guard, Navy and Army, and the International Monetary Fund.[3] She has been called "America's first female cryptanalyst".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizebeth_Smith_Friedman

Known as “America’s first female cryptanalyst,” Elizebeth Smith Friedman’s pioneering work in the field of codebreaking helped the country through pivotal moments in the 20th Century. A career that started with decrypting Shakespeare’s plays turned into cracking thousands of codes and ciphers during World War I, Prohibition, and World War II using only pencil and paper. Her contributions, even as they were overlooked during her lifetime, set the stage for generations of codebreakers to come.

https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/elizebeth-smith-friedman

There is no reason to even deem her the "wrong person" who did that work and no reason to hide her existence and association with the field. She wasn't a "DEI hire" and she has no reason to be dishonored. Well, unless you're the angry grandchild of an anti-prohibition smuggling grandparent who got nabbed and want revenge. lol (Though the path that led her into that kind of work is kinda interesting. Her story at that second link is worth a read.)


It seems weird to do it, though, so I'm half wondering if these people weren't covered to try to 'erase' them from it, but to make a point and trigger public conversation, since their work played an important role. Without people who had a knack for codebreaking, history could have turned out very differently.

[Mayhem]

I am not condoning this in any way, but people angry at this are the same people that were taking down statues and defacing art at art museums because they were done by the 'wrong people'.

Don’t lump me in with the statue and art defacing people because I was never a fan of it either. Sure, I understand why, but I wasn’t condoning it. In both instances someone is denying the history that took place.

[Barkworm]

The same people that were all expert virologists during COVID are now expert economists. Great!

By that logic, no one is allowed to criticize anything they have not learned at university.

[Mayhem]

By that logic, no one is allowed to criticize anything they have not learned at university.
The mother in law (RIP) was a qualified and highly experienced virologist (among other talents) so I had some expert knowledge in my ear before she passed. She was also part of the research team that isolated the BRCA2 gene.

In other news, Trump is splatting all about social media that he's got Mexico to station thousands of troops at the border to stop people leaving, but conveniently glosses over mentioning that in reciprocation, the US has to try harder to prevent illegal weapons flowing into Mexico.

[IndigoErth]

With all the intervening and getting involved in international issues this country has done in the past century or so... uh, why is their zero interest in helping neighbors to the south get theirs straightened out and become a better place to be, so that most of their citizens then won't have reason to even want to leave? Get rid of the situations they are trying to escape and we in turn help our own issue dealing with the numbers that keep showing up?

[Andrew NDB]

Canada is more of a wild card, I don't know if Trudeau is strong enough anymore to have the country back him up either. I wonder if it'll be resolved on Monday or during the week.

It was. Big surprise.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-agrees-pause-tariffs-canada-exchange-more-border-enforcement

[IMJ]

Canada is more of a wild card, I don't know if Trudeau is strong enough anymore to have the country back him up either. I wonder if it'll be resolved on Monday or during the week.

But he certainly went on T.V. and did the exaggerated liberal gesturing while explaining "He chose to divide us. Rather than bring us together" before imposing those scary Canadian tariffs. That's strength, right? :lol::lol::lol::lol:

And then 19 hours later he had a "good phone call with President Trump and worked it all out".

Trudeau is a clown. Always was. Almost as bad as Newsom.

[Mad Dog McMutt]

With all the intervening and getting involved in international issues this country has done in the past century or so... uh, why is their zero interest in helping neighbors to the south get theirs straightened out and become a better place to be, so that most of their citizens then won't have reason to even want to leave? Get rid of the situations they are trying to escape and we in turn help our own issue dealing with the numbers that keep showing up?

I agree with you very much on this (along with almost everything that you post on here). If our country doesn't help put a stop to those evil cartels then the cartels are going to keep expanding rapidly. The corruption that has entered their police force, government, and military already is absolutely staggering. If we don't help Mexico wipe out the cartels now, then it's going to become an even bigger problem in our future.

[Andrew NDB]

If we don't help Mexico wipe out the cartels now, then it's going to become an even bigger problem in our future.

They have to want us to help them with that, though. I'd be all for that, though.

[Mad Dog McMutt]

They have to want us to help them with that, though. I'd be all for that, though.
I bet most of them do want help getting rid of the evil cartels. However most are probably afraid to speak their minds. Especially in a public format like the news. The corruption is so imbedded into the police force and government that it may give the illusion that of all of Mexico is not wanting of our help. However, if you read all of the comments on any youtube video on this subject I see way more Mexicans open to the idea of accepting our help than opposed to it. That's just my opinion though. I could be wrong.

[Mayhem]

It was. Big surprise.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-agrees-pause-tariffs-canada-exchange-more-border-enforcement
Except it's all spin and bluff, as usual... in the same way Mexico wanted more troops and checks to stop weapons going into the country in exchange for more patrols their side (something Trump and his MAGA cronies conveniently forgot to note), Canada had already announced and was implementing the proposed border security back in December as a prep to the threat of tariffs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czx5p41696po

So Trump got nothing new from the "agreement" that wasn't already known or being done, and backed down to save the stock market and prices for vital things coming in such as timber and crude. Spins it so it's a "win" for him. Not really. He's being found out that being a bully doesn't really work here.

Far more worried about the proposed closure to the Department of Education (Keep America Dumb, Trump loves the uneducated he said) and complaints about USAID when the yearly spending on that is under 1% of the annual defence budget.


Also saw this and found it informative as DEI being re jobs was only a small part of its remit…

-ramps and sidewalk curb cuts
-subtitles & captions (TV & phone)
-family restrooms
-changing tables in men’s restrooms
-breast feeding/pumping stations & accommodations
-floating paid holidays
-pay equity & transparency
-parental leave (time & pay)
-coming back to a job after birthing a child
-not having to just accept workplace harassment
-work accommodations for a variety of disabilities
-flexible work arrangements
-size inclusive chairs and beds in medical facilities
-belt extenders on planes
-various food options for vegetarians/vegans/kosher/gluten-free/etc at medical facilities
-non smoking areas/end of smoking indoors
-being able to have medical professionals and your coworkers use your preferred name (not just queer people have those)
-wellness programs and incentives
-more relaxed & inclusive dress code policies
-rooms to pray/meditate at work & other public places
-employee recognition programs
-employee/network resource groups
-large print materials
-materials in different languages
-multiple religious options at hospitals
-accessible bikes and public transit accommodations
-businesses not becoming fully cashless
-company-covered mental/behavioral health resources

[Autbot_Benz]

No more packages from China and Hong Kong via the USPS until further notice. Another Trump Win

https://i.imgur.com/Awox9Fd.jpeg

[Andrew NDB]

Crap. Where am I going to get my knock-off DVDs now?

[Coola Yagami]

Apparently the left is trying to organize a protest, all 50 states, all their state Capitols tomorrow (later today) around noon. Sounds like a certain something but on a grander scale. There's been murmurs on reddit and bluesky but mostly kept off of Twitter.

Idk. It doesn't sound like it's gonna end well for anyone involved.

[Andrew NDB]

It won't even get off the ground. The left is gut-punched and unaware of what to do, or what even particular cause they feel like has enough to support at any given moment because Trump is hurling so many things. But all things he's openly talked about this entire time.

But yeah. The stuff like in my state with the blocking of freeways to support illegal immigrants... lol... yes. More of that. That won't end well for anyone involved.

[Mayhem]

CDC website being purged of certain visible data

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/01/cdc-dei-scientific-data/681531/

Free speech my arse as proposed by Muskrat and DonOLD, no it’s just controlling the narrative and what can be said like any other power :roll:

[ToTheNines]

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I was right, just saying. Still falling for the Zionist propaganda Andrew?

[Andrew NDB]

I was right, just saying. Still falling for the Zionist propaganda Andrew?

I mean, what's the alternative? Reward the Palestinians with a state after 10/7? Pull back entirely and just cross their fingers Hamas won't do it again?

It is a surprising move, though. I'm not sure how it's much better than Israel itself maintaining an occupation there. Their overall plan from the beginning seemed sound but... this isn't it.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

The idea is fantastic, assuming Netanyahu doesn't sabotage Trump.

Trump rebuilds Palestine, which will tremendously improve relations with the Arab and Muslim word. However, the execution remains to be seen.


It is a surprising move, though. I'm not sure how it's much better than Israel itself maintaining an occupation there. Their overall plan from the beginning seemed sound but... this isn't it.

It's much better because when Israel is maintaining an occupation, America constantly has enemies. Before Israel started their occupation, America had no enemies in the Middle East and that's how it should be.

[IndigoErth]

Apparently the left is trying to organize a protest, all 50 states, all their state Capitols tomorrow (later today) around noon. Sounds like a certain something but on a grander scale. There's been murmurs on reddit and bluesky but mostly kept off of Twitter.

Idk. It doesn't sound like it's gonna end well for anyone involved.
Eh, from what I'm hearing the "local" one (about an hour south of me) was kept entirely peaceful and only about 200 people at peak.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/dod-drafting-plans-withdraw-us-troops-syria-recent-trump-comments-rcna190726

Trump to pull out all U.S troops out of Syria. Awesome.

[Andrew NDB]

https://www.foxnews.com/world/exclusive-us-ally-cautions-world-against-doubting-trumps-shockingly-innovative-gaza-proposal

Hamas, the terrorist organization currently ruling over the Gaza Strip, broke its silence on Wednesday and slammed Trump’s proposal as a "recipe for creating chaos and tension in the region."

lol... Trump is going to be the one to create chaos and tension in the region, huh?

[IndigoErth]

A bit late for that, yeah. But two weeks in and it's all this BS already... he ain't helping matters.

[Barkworm]

The Gaza thing is Trump‘s crazy masterpiece so far. Hilarious. ‘Riviera of the Middle East.‘

[Mayhem]

Land grab for Israel isn’t it?

[ToTheNines]

I mean, what's the alternative? Reward the Palestinians with a state after 10/7? Pull back entirely and just cross their fingers Hamas won't do it again?

It is a surprising move, though. I'm not sure how it's much better than Israel itself maintaining an occupation there. Their overall plan from the beginning seemed sound but... this isn't it.

Hamas? You mean the only people resisting a violent occupation? Tell me how the country that literally rioted over their own soldier’s right to r*pe prisoners is the good guy.

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[FredWolfLeonardo]

Hamas? You mean the only people resisting a violent occupation? Tell me how the country that literally rioted over their own soldier’s right to r*pe prisoners is the good guy.

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Not to mention that said country has also occupied the Banks, Press and Politics of the United States.

Israel controls the US Government, while Palestine doesn't. That should tell every American who is their real enemy.

[ToTheNines]

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[Drose18]

Not to mention that said country has also occupied the Banks, Press and Politics of the United States.

Israel controls the US Government, while Palestine doesn't. That should tell every American who is their real enemy.

If you’re upset with US foreign policy, direct your frustration at the elected officials making those decisions, not some imaginary puppet master. US has deep alliances with many countries, Israel is just one of them. US aid goes to many nations, including Egypt, Jordan, and Ukraine. Why single out Israel?

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Massie is taking a normal aspect of political lobbying and spinning it into something sinister. The reality is that US politicians engage with many advocacy groups, and AIPAC is just one of them. If someone truly believes that a single lobby dictates all US policy, they need to step back and recognize how policymaking actually works.

Also cherrypicking protests to demonize Israel is disingenuous. Every country has people who defend bad actions. Look at how some Americans protest in support of police officers accused of brutality. That doesn’t mean the entire US supports police abuse. The fact that these IDF soldiers were detained in the first place proves that Israel has mechanisms for holding its military accountable. Compare this to groups like Hamas, which openly commits war crimes without any internal accountability.

[Andrew NDB]

There seems to be a pretty good case for maybe Trump being a deal-maker with this. In that what he's suggesting is so audacious for Gaza, that inevitably leaders from Jordan or Egypt or somewhere in the middle east (you know, one of those groups that isn't Hamas or the ones that give you money if you can prove you killed a Jew) will come forward and says, "No no no! We'll take this duty ourselves" and then Trump steps aside and lets them, that being what he wanted all along. And if nobody at all steps forward and does that, he will have called the bluff of the entire middle east and can just do whatever.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

If you’re upset with US foreign policy, direct your frustration at the elected officials making those decisions, not some imaginary puppet master. US has deep alliances with many countries, Israel is just one of them. US aid goes to many nations, including Egypt, Jordan, and Ukraine. Why single out Israel?

Screw foreign aid to Egypt.
Screw foreign aid to Jordan
Screw foreign aid to Ukraine.
Screw foreign aid to Israel, the biggest welfare queen of them all.

[Mayhem]

DOGE employees just as racist as Elon? Stagger me shocked…

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2025/02/06/doge-treasury-agent-reportedly-resigns-after-racist-posts-heres-what-to-know-about-musks-agency/

[Mayhem]

Also those “very fine people”…


https://i.imgur.com/zE10CgW.jpeg

[Andrew NDB]

Should we get back into how Kyle Rittenhouse shot at people attacking him a few years back during BLM and somehow was able to hit like 2 or 3 convicted pedophiles who were openly attacking him? I mean, if we're two sidesing this we can probably look at the actual scales here. Or what ratios exist in what crowds, as a thought bubble. And the idea that "Might there be one or two SUPER crazies in the January 6th thing?!" Sure. I guess. Number one, Pelosi shouldn't have refused Trump's offer of the National Guard and number two, maybe they shouldn't have been let in with open arms.

[Mayhem]

Number one, Pelosi shouldn't have refused Trump's offer of the National Guard
Except Trump never offered or signed it, that's been debunked. Pelosi seemingly has taken responsibility in that it was her charge to make sure people were safe, but she couldn't turn down something she was never offered.

[Mayhem]

USAID was apparently running a probe into Starlink… gee, I wonder if this could be a reason it’s been dismantled… by Musk :roll:

https://www.newsweek.com/usaid-elon-musk-starlink-probe-ukraine-2027054


Also, if true…

https://i.imgur.com/wHuvkKr.jpeg


None of this really coming off well for Muskrat…. basically in with Trump to deal with issues against his company.

[Andrew NDB]

USAID was apparently running a probe into Starlink… gee, I wonder if this could be a reason it’s been dismantled… by Musk :roll:

https://www.newsweek.com/usaid-elon-musk-starlink-probe-ukraine-2027054


Also, if true…

https://i.imgur.com/wHuvkKr.jpeg


None of this really coming off well for Muskrat…. basically in with Trump to deal with issues against his company.

Good luck with that.

[ranger_scout]

The full unedited 60 Minutes interview with Kamala Harris proves why I'm so glad that she was not elected president and why she is no longer vice president. CBS was trying to make her look competent and smart when she actually stumbled and laughed awkwardly multiple times.

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https://www.foxnews.com/video/6368339239112

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-publishes-transcripts-video-requested-by-fcc/

[Mayhem]

The full unedited 60 Minutes interview with Kamala Harris proves why I'm so glad that she was not elected president and why she is no longer vice president. CBS was trying to make her look competent and smart when she actually stumbled and laughed awkwardly multiple times.
You try being interviewed for an hour without stumbling, forgetting what you might say, getting spoonerisms or other pronunciation trips... it's like you make it sound easy peasy. DonOLD's word salads in a few minutes are evidence it most certainly is not.

[Andrew NDB]

You try being interviewed for an hour without stumbling, forgetting what you might say, getting spoonerisms or other pronunciation trips... it's like you make it sound easy peasy.

You're right. It's not like she was running for the highest position in the free world or anything, or needed to be able to communicate clearly and sharply with other foreign leaders both ally and otherwise day in and day out. Probably just nothing to see here.

[IMJ]

You try being interviewed for an hour without stumbling, forgetting what you might say, getting spoonerisms or other pronunciation trips... it's like you make it sound easy peasy. DonOLD's word salads in a few minutes are evidence it most certainly is not.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Unbelievable.

Thank God you lost, miserably. :lol:

[IndigoErth]

You're right. It's not like she was running for the highest position in the free world or anything, or needed to be able to communicate clearly and sharply with other foreign leaders both ally and otherwise day in and day out. Probably just nothing to see here.
Well then we're presently screwed either way. Since we're stuck with the guy who I've seen people try to cover for many times, including here, that he doesn't really mean things he said or is surely just being cryptic or saying crap as some kind of "strategy," so he is therefore NOT a clear or sharp communicator.

The same rambling buffoon who said the US will take over and own Gaza, displace all those people, and envisions it like an effing resort developer, not a president, imagining it has a "Riviera of the Middle East"... which would be on our dime if that really came to pass. He really looked at that area and saw dollar signs for himself.

[Mayhem]

You're right. It's not like she was running for the highest position in the free world or anything, or needed to be able to communicate clearly and sharply with other foreign leaders both ally and otherwise day in and day out. Probably just nothing to see here.
So you’re perfect at everything you do, first time? Riiiiight… and you really think EVERY other world leader is perfect all the time? Sheesh… at least I can understand what Kamala was saying compared to the blender of random words pulled from a dictionary that DonOLD normally produces.

[Andrew NDB]

What are you even talking about? Good grief.

[IMJ]

What are you even talking about? Good grief.

He's delusional. Always has been. So dug-in on whatever feelings he gets from coming to a Ninja Turtles forum to post almost exclusively about Donald Trump, still trying to push back in his loss to the normalcy of greater society.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I'm radical right as they get and I love Mayhem despite him being an Anti-Trump Leftist.

I wouldn't call him Delusional. He always argues his point respectfully.

Then again both me and him seem to irritate centrists so I guess that's why I empathise and relate with the guy when he gets constantly crapped on.

Come on Mayhem, lets form a 3 way alliance with sdp. Our Axis will be unstoppable!

[IMJ]

I'm radical right as they get and I love Mayhem despite him being an Anti-Trump Leftist.

I wouldn't call him Delusional. He always argues his point respectfully.

Then again both me and him seem to irritate centrists so I guess that's why I empathise and relate with the guy when he gets constantly crapped on.

Come on Mayhem, lets form a 3 way alliance with sdp. Our Axis will be unstoppable!

:lol: Delusional. He "argues" to argue and has on many occasion relied in mockery and twisting facts in the hope that those tactics will give him some superiority. Very hard to respect anything he says when he will dig in on anything to push his "agenda position".

But I agree for sure that the three if you in "trolling cahoots" would be a forced to be reckoned with on the forums! I think you guys should do it! ?

[Andrew NDB]

https://s.faketrumptweet.com/m6vuuhsc_9h3m7l_1dnqnu2.png

[IMJ]

You guys can even have a shiny and reflective team name! "The Triplet Trolls" or "The Trolling Triumvirate".

[ToTheNines]

https://s.faketrumptweet.com/m6w4yaoz_16j0x3f_ttbxh2.png

[Mayhem]

Muskrat has tweeted up the departmental budget figures his trolling AI has decided to cough out for last year and the projection for this year. I’m not really sure what positives will come from this, sure people will go “well he said he’d be transparent about government spending” but unsurprisingly it’s attracting the usual hate towards the people who are genuinely claiming for social security, Medicare and beyond :roll:

Let alone the standard f you, fix your own problems to anyone who noted they benefited from USAID coming to their country.

But it’s not wholly surprising. Those that appear anti woke look at themselves and those immediately close to them as a priority (such as family and best friends). Those they deem woke are considered to look at the bigger picture and consider everyone, even if it means detriment to yourself.

Two different priorities and focuses, which is why I don’t think either side will ever understand the others viewpoint ?

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/uVW2o9E.png


Trump wouldn't know the first thing about Art or Culture :lol:

[IndigoErth]

Trump wouldn't know the first thing about Art or Culture :lol:
Don't be silly. Art means everything is painted in gold and culture means getting the BEST RATINGS!


I really hoped that was a joke though...until I Googled it.

(via NPR) In doing so, he'll replace billionaire philanthropist David Rubenstein, an ally of former President Joe Biden who was set to chair until 2026.

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/07/nx-s1-5290263/trump-kennedy-center
Well guess it's clear why he's doing it then. Because Biden. So we're wasting time trying to do things that aren't widely important to the nation, because he's a petty little bitch.


edit:
"who do not share our vision for a Golden Age in Arts and Culture."

Oh, I thought I was joking about the gold.

[Mayhem]

That’s art with a capital F, and he’s about as cultured as a yeast infection.

[ToTheNines]

You should write for Colbert lol

[IMJ]

You should write for Colbert lol

Colbert has misguided class. He couldn't take a one-trick-pony vitriol writer. :lol:

[Mayhem]

Both jokes are about as ancient as DonOLD himself.

[lonewarrior20]

https://i.imgur.com/uVW2o9E.png


Trump wouldn't know the first thing about Art or Culture :lol:

Bet things start disappearing from museums and into his places.

[IndigoErth]

Check his bathrooms, they'll prob be in a pile thrown on top of all those documents he wrongly took.

[ToTheNines]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/02/07/20/94982613-14373581-image-a-54_1738959741154.jpg

[IndigoErth]

Well, that's just asking for it, to be symbolism of making them look like they have small heads and thus small minds.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/02/07/20/94982613-14373581-image-a-54_1738959741154.jpg

Tbh with Kanye's recent tweets, this news has been sidelined so hard lol

[IndigoErth]

Sooo... he's just saying the quiet part out loud like nobody will notice? 'kay.

"Refuges and immigration bad! Unless they're white, of course." Yet they aren't even refugees. It would be one thing if something horrible was happening and people need a safe place to go, even temporarily, such as all those who had to flee Ukraine, but these people in South Africa aren't looking to leave.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-signs-order-prioritizing-us-064151087.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ 2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAD-9EKBA8Qy_xw-lI_HwwF9X59T8w-j0UuPNQCxeWhBK5vU4jdSNk-MU9DhuGGrvsL5Lff-KzJww17uEIdsj9iZJy_USBtJ2HdtZc-6zUOBAqfEWEvvx_qVykShAEMmhOha4q5IPxhhryLtQ-YkQtBPMhxPBusgjnjcjx3d1aWz5

Trump signs order prioritizing US ‘resettlement’ of white South Africans over ‘discrimination’

After years railing against immigrants coming to America, Donald Trump signed an executive order Friday to prioritize the U.S. resettlement of white South African “refugees” suffering from what he called “government-sponsored race-based discrimination.”

Trump also shut down all federal funding for the country, much of which is used to battle AIDS.

Afrikaners, who largely benefitted as white people from the historically racial discriminatory system of apartheid in South Africa, would be resettled in America through the U.S. refugee program.

How about the cost of them eggs, huh? And sticking to "America first" in-border priorities at the beginning of a term? No?

[Mayhem]

Well, that's just asking for it, to be symbolism of making them look like they have small heads and thus small minds.
What do you mean, make them look like? :P

[Andrew NDB]

How about the cost of them eggs, huh?

Not sure how Trump is supposed to un-kill the millions of chickens Biden ordered slain because of bird flu.

[IndigoErth]

Aside from that having been sarcasm... You realize the farms have to do what they must to stop the spread to try to limit the impact, no matter who is in office.

My state was one of those hit, and appeared to be brought in by migrating snow geese.

[Autbot_Benz]

Sooo... he's just saying the quiet part out loud like nobody will notice? 'kay.

"Refuges and immigration bad! Unless they're white, of course." Yet they aren't even refugees. It would be one thing if something horrible was happening and people need a safe place to go, even temporarily, such as all those who had to flee Ukraine, but these people in South Africa aren't looking to leave.



How about the cost of them eggs, huh? And sticking to "America first" in-border priorities at the beginning of a term? No?

Trump is Racist? :lol:

https://i.imgur.com/0oWQaM8.gif

[Mayhem]

Aside from that having been sarcasm... You realize the farms have to do what they must to stop the spread to try to limit the impact, no matter who is in office.

My state was one of those hit, and appeared to be brought in by migrating snow geese.
And needless to say the gutted CDC isn't reporting the infection has spread to other farm animals such as cows in some states. Or liable to be able to do as much about it when Biden was in office. But it's amusing that one of those things Trump mention (about bringing the price of eggs down) is going to repeatedly peck on his flabby orange backside.

[IndigoErth]

Terrible, considering humans can get it, even if not usually deadly for most. Raw pet foods contaminated with it can sicken or kill pets, so it's something people at least should be aware of.


Also... RIP penny. Dropping it from the currency has been suggested for a long time, but still kinda sad to see that production may be ordered to end.

[Coola Yagami]

Terrible, considering humans can get it, even if not usually deadly for most. Raw pet foods contaminated with it can sicken or kill pets, so it's something people at least should be aware of.


Also... RIP penny. Dropping it from the currency has been suggested for a long time, but still kinda sad to see that production may be ordered to end.

Wait.... what?

[Mayhem]

As an aside, the Super Bowl. US networks covered up all the boos for Trump (wasn't just Swifty) by playing a cheer track over the top, but all the foreign feeds such as what I got were broadcast "raw" for local commentators to then overdub, and it was pretty evident. This is confirmed by recordings people made at the Superdome.

The halftime show was the complete opposite cup of tea for me, but given half the NFL squads are black, and we were in New Orleans, it was meant as a celebration of black culture. Needless to say countless racist MAGA twats online were complaining it was the worst half time show of all time.

So that was predictable. And a chucklesome take of some of the worst of the MAGA reps getting burned about it...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/gaetz-and-boebert-lead-maga-world-s-meltdown-over-kendrick-lamar-s-super-bowl-halftime-show/

Wait.... what?
Yep, Trump is aiming to halt production of pennies. We've considered similar here for a while too.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g7x3ze4qno

[Anarchistguy]

Yep, Trump is aiming to halt production of pennies. We've considered similar here for a while too.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g7x3ze4qno

So? We haven't had pennies in Canada in 10 years and the world didn't explode.

[Coola Yagami]

So? We haven't had pennies in Canada in 10 years and the world didn't explode.

Yeah but I mean, the average American doesn't care about Canada. You do you.

[Mayhem]

Jeez, the self own is palpable. Do these people even known wtf they say?


https://i.imgur.com/3nC4v7S.jpeg

[Andrew NDB]

It's really telling, the people that are super furious about all of this inarguably wasteful spending are hyper focusing their entire ire on who found it, and not at all what they've found. Like, not even a little tiny bit. They don't even mention it, peripherally. I guess we're supposed to be super afraid some 19 year-old kid genius is going to pull our DMV record or something and go crazy with it and not talk at all about the ridiculous spending they've uncovered, like not even in passing?

[Mayhem]

And yet it almost feels like this is an attempt to smoke and mirrors away from something else that is going on. Besides we are "trusting" the figures they are putting out, there's been no evidence yet of how the figures have been calculated, and I've seen some ludicrous claims online (either human or bots) about the projected total. Quadrillions even :lol:

It's not like they are concentrating on the important things right now, like relabelling the Gulf of Mexico (everyone else in the world is still going to call it that), banning the 17 trans college athletes in the country, and a proposal to buy Greenland and... rename it :roll::lol:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1161

[Andrew NDB]

And yet it almost feels like this is an attempt to smoke and mirrors away from something else that is going on. Besides we are "trusting" the figures they are putting out, there's been no evidence yet of how the figures have been calculated, and I've seen some ludicrous claims online (either human or bots) about the projected total. Quadrillions even :lol:

Conspiracy theory stuff, check.

It's not like they are concentrating on the important things right now, like relabelling the Gulf of Mexico

I'm just curious, why is that important and to whom?

banning the 17 trans college athletes in the country

You mean banning boys playing against girls in college sports? That's all over the news, you silly goose. As a good thing, with overwhelmingly popular support. About 80% in favor of banning, 20% not in favor last I saw. Why would they be trying to hide something with such universal support across party lines, citizen-wise?

and a proposal to buy Greenland and... rename it :roll::lol:

Well, if Greenland/Denmark say "yes" then... what's the big deal? Are we to be angry that they get to choose and that they might say yes to Mean Mr. Trump? Or are we back to conspiracy theory stuff and, let me guess, troops/tanks rolling through Greenland and so on?

[ResidentEvil7]

I don't understand why Mayhem even cares so much about American politics and elections when he lives in England where he has NO voting rights or a say in our American government. You don't hear too many Americans giving a damn about English parliament or the royal family, because we don't. So why do you care about what is and isn't doing considering it doesn't effect you?

[sdp]

We need to cut down spending if we don't want a worldwide financial crisis in a decade. Government social programs need to be axed.
The poor should get to work and if they want s comfy life then an education.

We better get Greenland as well.