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When you are a rich actor you have to constantly appeal to the peasant-public who could turn on you.
And so, given the rich-actor money & lifestyle, they have no real worries other than social-safety. So the rich-actor turns to the manipulation of the peasant-thinker by going on about basic "virtue plays" to keep them appeased. I.e., "the racism" or "the justice" and other things that you never real have to deal with anymore because your the key survival metric of life becomes "social management" from the have-nots.
And the peasant-thinkers eat that $#!( up, obsessed with their perceived "unfairnesses" of life.
Of course the few of them in this thread will bug-up at that, but it's really that simple. Lords manipulate the life-angry for the lord's survival, and the lord earns a "pass" from the peasant-thinker as "one of the good ones".
Andrew NDB
10-23-2024, 02:19 PM
I got my WA mail-in voting stuff a few days ago. Which again, I've never signed up for and never registered for yet since 2016 they just keep sending it to me regardless like clockwork.
Also what's interesting... as suspected, there's Robert Kennedy as an option to vote for on the ballot, despite him very publicly dropping out a while back now in support of Trump. Pretty vile tactics here in WA. I guess a few other states are doing this as well, hoping to throw away any votes from people who just see "Ooh! Kennedy!" and don't know much else about the race.
You're in Chicago... your state is going blue. Nothing to cry about. :lol:
It's actually going quite red from all the blood from the violence in the streets from soft-on-crime democrat policies.
Mayhem
10-23-2024, 02:23 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump
Damn that’s a long article :lol:
Funny, that’s what the Trump supporters are saying about the Kamala supporters.
Oh there’s a list I’m sure, no one is faultless, it’s magnitudes shorter than why Trump is unfit to lead though.
Zulithe
10-23-2024, 02:27 PM
It's actually going quite red from all the blood from the violence in the streets from soft-on-crime democrat policies.
That has a lot to do with the DA in said cities, and/or the Mayors. We are dealing with the same thing in San Francisco. We already replaced one DA and close to replacing another. You can want accountability for crime and still vote blue, that's where I stand. More cities are making changes to backpeddle on overcorrecting after george floyd. SOME reform was likely needed but many cities pushed too far, and now it is slowly correcting.
Although you can't 1:1 compare Chicago to SF, very different crime situations going on. Chicago seems a lot more gang focused crime which is not as easy to deal with. Where I am it's more property crime, retail theft, drug related stuff.
Once people can't get proper help from the police they realize it needs fixing. I never said Dem governed areas were perfect, but I'm much happier living in this environment than when I lived in a red state.
Zulithe
10-24-2024, 12:17 AM
Donald Trump groped me in what felt like a ‘twisted game’ with Jeffrey Epstein, former model alleges (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/23/donald-trump-accuser-stacey-williams-jeffrey-epstein)
The alleged groping occurred some months later, in the late winter or early spring of 1993, when Epstein suggested during a walk they were on that he and Williams stop by to visit Trump at Trump Tower. Epstein was later convicted on sex offenses and killed himself in prison in 2019.
Moments after they arrived, she alleges, Trump greeted Williams, pulled her toward him and started groping her. She said he put his hands “all over my breasts” as well as her waist and her buttocks. She said she froze because she was “deeply confused” about what was happening. At the same time, she said she believed she saw the two men smiling at each other.
Barkworm
10-24-2024, 02:33 AM
I deleted some petty arguing.
ZariusTwo
10-24-2024, 03:03 AM
Think I'll just stay clear of this thread. Always brings out the uglier side of me.
Mayhem
10-24-2024, 04:53 AM
Think I'll just stay clear of this thread. Always brings out the uglier side of me.
There's a beautiful side? :lol: (kidding!)
No surprise on a lot of forums I'm on, both as a regular and mod/admin, there is a no politics rule strictly enforced. Ditto religion. Always the sources of the most arguments. Especailly when religion starts dictating politics (eg Row vs Wade overturn etc). Then it's double jeopardy.
Coola Yagami
10-24-2024, 07:01 AM
I deleted some petty arguing.
Geez, at least wait til I'm awake so I can read em first.
Rude.
Zulithe
10-24-2024, 08:06 AM
No surprise on a lot of forums I'm on, both as a regular and mod/admin, there is a no politics rule strictly enforced. Ditto religion. Always the sources of the most arguments. Especailly when religion starts dictating politics (eg Row vs Wade overturn etc). Then it's double jeopardy.
There is so little going on in the TMNT world these days outside of the neverending stream of merch that this is the most active thread on the forum, how sad IS THAT? :lol:
Mutant Mayhem came out and it appealed highly to younger fans, but very few here liked it. So it got no discussion other than a little hate.
Then the tv series based off it came out, pretty much zero discussion.
Comics discussion also down considerably post-mutant town.
We even have a brand new video game out with some pretty nice graphics. only a few posts.
Coola Yagami
10-24-2024, 08:25 AM
There is so little going on in the TMNT world these days outside of the neverending stream of merch that this is the most active thread on the forum, how sad IS THAT? :lol:
Mutant Mayhem came out and it appealed highly to younger fans, but very few here liked it. So it got no discussion other than a little hate.
Then the tv series based off it came out, pretty much zero discussion.
Comics discussion also down considerably post-mutant town.
We even have a brand new video game out with some pretty nice graphics. only a few posts.
From what I heard the game was boring, more talking cut scenes than action. The only saving grace for the older fans that simply must buy TMNT stuff are the DLC skins that make the Turtles look like their 80's selves.
I'd say the most discussion would be the comics and the new merch.
We need better videogames. Shredder's Revenge got a lot of discussion back in the day, as did the Cowabunga Collection.
I never understood why forums related to cartoons and whatnot even need a politics section. Leave that **** out of here. Go vent on Facebook or Twitter about Kamala and Trump. People should be going to forums like these (and any others that are somehow still alive) to escape reality, not to vent about their real world views. Unless it's a case where the media itself incorporates (like the MAGA stand-ins in that Jennika book and all the Sophie crap when she gained full control) just keep real world politics out of here.
I guess I'd rather have a barely-alive TMNT forum barely talking about TMNT stuff than a barely-alive TMNT forum that is mostly alive because of political discussion. I mean, no matter who wins the election... the Ninja Turtles (as well as April) will still be there.
Andrew NDB
10-24-2024, 10:42 AM
I guess I'd rather have a barely-alive TMNT forum barely talking about TMNT stuff than a barely-alive TMNT forum that is mostly alive because of political discussion. I mean, no matter who wins the election... the Ninja Turtles (as well as April) will still be there.
The thing is, as has been pointed out pretty thoroughly often and by others, to remove politics entirely from a TMNT discussion board would in itself be a form of censoring anyone on the right as left-leaning activists keep encroaching on entertainment and, yes, that means the TMNT as well. As we've demonstrably seen in, for example, the IDW comics. And what's been going on with April and more in other media for the past few very, let's call them "politically motivated" years.
We didn't do this. We didn't create a culture war. Our only crime is noticing what they did, and are doing, and are pointing it out.
Mayhem
10-24-2024, 12:29 PM
The thing is, as has been pointed out pretty thoroughly often and by others, to remove politics entirely from a TMNT discussion board would in itself be a form of censoring anyone on the right
I will handily point out here that a couple of my examples from before are actually modded by right wing Christians, and thus aside from the no religion, no politics bans, we also have no mention of any of "those" letters on top.
Mayhem
10-24-2024, 01:35 PM
NYS Rep candidate steals political mail... if you can't win fair, cheat!
https://cbs6albany.com/news/local/caught-on-camera-nys-assembly-candidate-reportedly-swipes-election-mailer-joe-mastroianni-election-voting-chairman-democrat-republican-angelo-santabarbara#
ResidentEvil7
10-24-2024, 03:39 PM
NYS Rep candidate steals political mail... if you can't win fair, cheat!
Just like what the Democrats did to rig 2020's election. I mean it's funny on how all those Biden ballots in some states just happen to show up in the middle of the night being delivered in trucks.
Zulithe
10-24-2024, 04:14 PM
Just like what the Democrats did to rig 2020's election. I mean it's funny on how all those Biden ballots in some states just happen to show up in the middle of the night being delivered in trucks.
mail-in ballots how do they work!?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/04/politics/why-mail-in-ballots-were-counted-late-in-states-like-pennsylvania-and-michigan/index.html
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/fact-check-vote-spikes-in-wisconsin-michigan-and-pennsylvania-do-not-prove-ele-idUSKBN27Q304/
stop spreading misinformation. Do you realize how easily manipulated you come off sounding? Do you know what a patsy is?
ResidentEvil7
10-24-2024, 04:34 PM
mail-in ballots how do they work!?
stop spreading misinformation. Do you realize how easily manipulated you come off sounding? Do you know what a patsy is?
It's not misinformation. I can say whatever I want! I'm not going to be told by an out-of-touch San Francisco liberal that listens to fake news CNN about facts. You rely on CNN that hates Trump and lies about him like you do.
Mayhem
10-24-2024, 06:05 PM
It's not misinformation. I can say whatever I want! I'm not going to be told by an out-of-touch San Francisco liberal that listens to fake news CNN about facts. You rely on CNN that hates Trump and lies about him like you do.
And this is the double down… you refuse to accept you were wrong or duped, and continue to press harder in believing what you think is correct :roll: I will readily admit, sometimes I’m wrong. I’m also in science, and engineering, and those established facts change on a constant basis as new information and research is discovered. But some people just can’t admit they are wrong…
So the fact that those states were not allowed to start counting mail in and absentee ballots until the day of the election (and seemingly only after the in person ballots were counted) doesn’t dissuade you from the line that ballots “mysteriously appeared” to change the results? Oh dear…
Cowabung-Gal
10-25-2024, 12:08 AM
Guess you missed the bombshell news yesterday (https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-reportedly-raged-at-american-soldiers-funeral-bill-it-doesnt-cost-60000-bucks-to-bury-a-fcking-mexican/).
Guess her sister is a liar then?
https://nypost.com/2024/10/22/us-news/vanessa-guillens-sister-and-family-attorney-slam-atlantic-editor-for-claiming-trump-dissed-murdered-army-servicewoman/
That's why we call it a cult.
It’s actually funny that you bring up cults, considering that Kamala’s old lover Willie Brown had a connection to an actual cult leader.
https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=61463
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Mayhem
10-25-2024, 03:06 AM
There’s laws and fines here if kids are persistently out of school, I don’t know about arresting mind you, but at least here I can say there would be proviso for assisting disabled children (as it’s one of those protected characteristics in Europe). Not huge, but some.
Also the interviewed lady don’t realise, if there’s one thing more demanding and strict than a black mother, it’s an Indian mother :P oh Kamala knows it alright, is all I’m saying…
Cowabung-Gal
10-25-2024, 03:22 AM
Also the interviewed lady don’t realise, if there’s one thing more demanding and strict than a black mother, it’s an Indian mother :P oh Kamala knows it alright, is all I’m saying…
So which is she? Black or Indian?
Good thing she’s not Jewish or she wouldn’t be the Democratic candidate. :P
Barkworm
10-25-2024, 03:36 AM
Also the interviewed lady don’t realise, if there’s one thing more demanding and strict than a black mother, it’s an Indian mother :P oh Kamala knows it alright, is all I’m saying…
My mother's 'praise' for me whenever I wrote an A+ in senior high used to be something like "That's how it supposed to be." So yeah, very accurate statement! :lol:
Mayhem
10-25-2024, 03:55 AM
My mother's 'praise' for me whenever I wrote an A+ in senior high used to be something like "That's how it supposed to be." So yeah, very accurate statement! :lol:
My best mate at school was Pakistani, so I got to see it all too often whenever I visited his house heh. And then the TV series "Goodness Gracious Me" dropped in the late 90s, and I was holy crap, the bickering mothers sketches, that was so on point from even my own (non Indian) observations :lol:
FredWolfLeonardo
10-25-2024, 12:10 PM
My mother's 'praise' for me whenever I wrote an A+ in senior high used to be something like "That's how it supposed to be." So yeah, very accurate statement! :lol:
In my personal experience, Indian/Pakistani parenting when it comes to education especially, is some of the most toxic and soul-crushing. It's even worse when they are in a foreign land and the academic pressure makes the kids feel even more alien in a country where they are frankly, already aliens to begin with.
TMNT is cooler than MOTU
10-25-2024, 01:44 PM
And this is the double down… you refuse to accept you were wrong or duped, and continue to press harder in believing what you think is correct :roll: I will readily admit, sometimes I’m wrong. I’m also in science, and engineering, and those established facts change on a constant basis as new information and research is discovered. But some people just can’t admit they are wrong…
So the fact that those states were not allowed to start counting mail in and absentee ballots until the day of the election (and seemingly only after the in person ballots were counted) doesn’t dissuade you from the line that ballots “mysteriously appeared” to change the results? Oh dear…
Look at how Chris Chan is. Autistic people tend to not be good at self-reflection or changing viewpoints.
Mayhem
10-25-2024, 03:32 PM
And this is why the law overturn and law doesn’t make any sense to me… once you’re born, screw you, you’re on your own…
https://i.imgur.com/IPgZWku.jpeg
Coola Yagami
10-25-2024, 03:39 PM
Look at how Chris Chan is. Autistic people tend to not be good at self-reflection or changing viewpoints.
Chris Chan is an extreme case. Honestly that.... thing... has way more mental and psycho-logical problems than just autism and needs a proper diagnosis. It was way WAY more issues than just autism. Apparently it thinks it's high-functioning???
FredWolfLeonardo
10-25-2024, 03:40 PM
And this is why the law overturn and law doesn’t make any sense to me… once you’re born, screw you, you’re on your own…
https://i.imgur.com/IPgZWku.jpeg
If Republicians had better post-birth policies, the pro-life movement would be much more popular.
Coola Yagami
10-25-2024, 05:32 PM
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Not sure how true this is, considering Jeremy is pretty rage-baity and grifty. If so, how is this going to affect things?
Mayhem
10-25-2024, 05:43 PM
If Republicians had better post-birth policies, the pro-life movement would be much more popular.
While I’m firmly pro-choice, I’m not going to hugely disagree with this statement.
Zulithe
10-25-2024, 06:59 PM
hard to keep up with all the election related news anymore. Everytime I look there's like 10 new events (not articles, actual separate events) about something new and stupid Don, Elon or people orbiting his campaign are doing. So ready for this to be over.
Early Voting is SOARING, more people are seeing the light
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ar-AA1sUiiw
FredWolfLeonardo
10-25-2024, 07:17 PM
So ready for this to be over.
We're just getting started man.
Trump wins, he makes history. Trump loses, he makes history.
Win win.
Zulithe
10-25-2024, 07:46 PM
We're just getting started man.
Trump wins, he makes history. Trump loses, he makes history.
Win win.
how does he make history if he loses?
If Kamala wins, she definitely makes history. First woman President. First Asian American (of any sort) President, since she is bi-racial. You can also slice it down further: first african american woman president, first asian american woman president, i'm sure i'm leaving out lots of other firsts it would make.
Oh, first male "First Gentleman" (Kamala's husband)... i'm sure i'm leaving out lots of other things but those jump to mind.
Coola Yagami
10-25-2024, 07:55 PM
Definitely way more history made by Kamala, a mixed woman as opposed to boring ol white Hillary.
Did Michelle ever say why she didn't give it a go?
Zulithe
10-25-2024, 08:05 PM
Did Michelle ever say why she didn't give it a go?
She has no aspirations toward the Presidency, it's been repeatedly asked of her and her husband.
FredWolfLeonardo
10-25-2024, 08:29 PM
how does he make history if he loses?
January 6th 2025.
Zulithe
10-25-2024, 08:50 PM
January 6th 2025.
Well he can try, but he's not in office so he has even less leverage than last time.
Did you know that over 1200 people were charged with federal crimes for Jan 6th 2021 and over 500 received prison terms? Are you hoping they can break that record or something?
This time, Trump will be joining them in prison. He might be going there even if another Jan 6th doesn't happen regardless.
Coola Yagami
10-25-2024, 09:34 PM
Well he can try, but he's not in office so he has even less leverage than last time.
Did you know that over 1200 people were charged with federal crimes for Jan 6th 2021 and over 500 received prison terms? Are you hoping they can break that record or something?
This time, Trump will be joining them in prison. He might be going there even if another Jan 6th doesn't happen regardless.
Not to mention most if not all of them were added to the Do Not Fly list.
Autbot_Benz
10-25-2024, 09:49 PM
Joe Rogan did a 3 hour interview with Trump. I can't think of a worse way to spend 3 hours listening to Captain Word Salad spout BS for 3 hours.
Andrew NDB
10-25-2024, 10:02 PM
Joe Rogan did a 3 hour interview with Trump. I can't think of a worse way to spend 3 hours listening to Captain Word Salad spout BS for 3 hours.
Well if you like that, wait till Kamala has her turn.
Cowabung-Gal
10-25-2024, 10:07 PM
Well if you like that, wait till Kamala has her turn.
I thought it has been decided that she isn’t going to appear on the podcast?
Zulithe
10-25-2024, 10:30 PM
https://i.imgur.com/mhovdKw.png
Uh-hu, tell us more...
Well if you like that, wait till Kamala has her turn.
I hope she does go on Rogan. Would be a very fun comparison. But last I read she can't go due to scheduling conflicts. I doubt she is dodging him, because she's already been interviewed by way way harder hitters than Rogan. Rogan doesn't even hit hard on the issues anyways. Very casual.
Zulithe
10-25-2024, 10:45 PM
For better or worse, here is the Rogan episode with Trump
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Zulithe
10-25-2024, 10:58 PM
The ‘Black Insurrectionist’ was actually white. The deception did not stop there (https://apnews.com/article/black-trump-kamala-harris-tim-walz-aca31c66fe5bfef1e8827581e7919ece)
WASHINGTON (AP) — “Black Insurrectionist,” the anonymous social media persona behind some of the most widely circulated conspiracy theories about the 2024 election, can be traced to a man from upstate New York.
He’s also white.
Last month, the account posted what Black Insurrectionist claimed was an affidavit from an ABC News employee, alleging Harris was given questions in advance of the network's debate with Trump — which ABC News vigorously disputed. Trump approved, though, declaring, "I love the person." More recently, Black Insurrectionist posted a baseless claim alleging inappropriate behavior between Walz and a student decades ago, a falsehood that U.S. intelligence officials said sprang from a Russian disinformation campaign.
He also owes more than $6.7 million dollars in back taxes to the state of New York.
"He's far from African American," said Kathleen Albano, who said her deceased husband was involved in a failed business venture with Palmer.
SHAMEFUL. That's putting it lightly.
Andrew NDB
10-26-2024, 07:18 PM
I just meant to watch a few minutes of the Rogan podcast last night, but I ended up watching the whole thing. Rogan did a good job. He was able to wrangle Trump in many times when he'd drift off into side stories. Rogan also noticeably refused to say anything disparaging about Harris, even when he has on previous podcasts... I suspect she'll come on yet. It won't be good for her, but I think she'll feel like she has to now.
This time, Trump will be joining them in prison. He might be going there even if another Jan 6th doesn't happen regardless.
Please. Most of Trump's "horrible crimes" are manufactured-perspective the way that a boss who doesn't like you finds fault anyway they can to eventually get you fired.
This could happen to ANY President but it isn't largely done. Except now, by the deranged hater left.
FredWolfLeonardo
10-26-2024, 10:56 PM
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/26/politics/muslim-leaders-michigan-trump-endorse/index.html
Muslim leaders in Michigan endorse Trump.
“We, as Muslims, stand with President Trump because he promises peace – he promises peace, not war,” Alzuhairi said. “We are supporting Donald Trump because he promised to end war in the Middle East and Ukraine.”
Andrew NDB
10-27-2024, 02:58 AM
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/26/politics/muslim-leaders-michigan-trump-endorse/index.html
Muslim leaders in Michigan endorse Trump.
“We, as Muslims, stand with President Trump because he promises peace – he promises peace, not war,” Alzuhairi said. “We are supporting Donald Trump because he promised to end war in the Middle East and Ukraine.”
Unexpected. But I mean, he will. Maybe not as fast as he says. But he will.
FredWolfLeonardo
10-27-2024, 03:17 AM
Unexpected. But I mean, he will. Maybe not as fast as he says. But he will.
It's awesome seeing a group seen as completely unwinnable for Trump now endorsing him wholeheartedly.
Zulithe
10-27-2024, 08:52 PM
MAGA rally speaker calls Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage.
That's one way to get out the vote. In the opposite direction that is.
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1850613597304455412
This made Puerto Rico the #1 trending topic on twitter right now
more bad jokes from this guy...
https://www.threads.net/@aaron.rupar/post/DBo3YVbg9O0
Cowabung-Gal
10-27-2024, 11:05 PM
Dr. Phil? At a Trump rally?
https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/GettyImages-2181403254.jpg?w=681&h=383&crop=1
https://media1.tenor.com/m/fvGG3GwS9s4AAAAC/sonic-the-hedgehog-dr-robotnik.gif
I guess Oprah won’t be his friend anymore.
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Props to the lady in the black shirt who pulled that lunatic away.
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Barkworm
10-28-2024, 03:13 AM
Polls are looking mediocre for Harris but a good economy is usually beneficial for the incumbent party. (https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2024/10/27/americas-glorious-economy-should-help-kamala-harris)
Zulithe
10-28-2024, 04:11 AM
I wish we could embed social media sites other than youtube on this forum. So outdated!
Anyway...
https://www.tiktok.com/@priegotime/video/7430638467123531039
I'm feeling very confident about Kamala's chances. She's got most women, most latinos, most black voters fired up over all the BS that keeps being doing and saying on the Trump side. Not even worried. As long as people vote.
It's not about complaining on tiktok. Gotta vote. THEN you can complain on tiktok.
Republicans wanna sit there and pretend there aren't hundreds of thousands of puerto ricans who can vote in swing states. Buncha morons.
Zulithe
10-28-2024, 04:26 AM
Imagine if Trump's own MSG rally ends up being his own October Surprise. One of his own making. I'm seeing it. Can't wait to see the voter numbers next week. One week from tomorrow!
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Tariffs hurt his business. He's voting for Trump anyway (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0r8edwj9wlo)
For almost 35 years, Wyoming entrepreneur Alan Chadwick has run his business importing clothing from China and selling the Western-style gear to stores serving "working cowboys" in the US.
Now, as former President Donald Trump campaigns on a pledge to hit all goods coming into the country with a 10%-20% tariff, or border tax, which would rise to 60% for goods from China, Chadwick is having to drastically rethink his strategy.
The 66-year-old has been exploring moving manufacturing of his products, like wool shirts with snaps and canvas jackets, to India or Pakistan - or perhaps closing his Wyoming Traders business, which employs 16 people, and retiring altogether.
Chadwick said tariffs were a "tax on the American people" and warned that the expense for a company like his of opening a factory in the US was unrealistic.
But as he prepares to cast his ballot,he expects to swallow his qualms about tariffs in favour of other priorities, such as illegal immigration and opposition to abortion.
"I will vote for Trump even though he's going to hurt our company if he does what he says he's going to do," he said.
Chadwick's readiness to look past Trump's views on tariffs is a sign of the contradictory impulses shaping American politics.
There are so many idiots in this country. Cultists can't help but go down with the burning building just like they did in Waco.
Barkworm
10-28-2024, 05:13 AM
Quick note: I removed the arguing about Gaza; we had a thread that didn‘t work out, let‘s not drag the topic into this one (even though it‘s somewhat related).
Zulithe
10-28-2024, 06:00 AM
Political scientist crunches the numbers on the data we currently have on new voter registrations, early voting numbers, and other known hard data points. Some interesting observations
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Barkworm
10-28-2024, 06:28 AM
Political scientist crunches the numbers on the data we currently have on new voter registrations, early voting numbers, and other known hard data points. Some interesting observations
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Could you list some of those interesting points? I'm very wary of watching political content on Youtube.
Mayhem
10-28-2024, 07:04 AM
https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/x-trump-deport-millions-immigrants-3-months-aid-ukraine.jpg?w=544&ssl=1
Hardly, the US has spent $64bn to date aiding Ukraine since early 2022. So more like 18 months worth of aid to Ukraine then to get rid of illegals, not 3 months.
In the context of matters, the aid to Ukraine per year so far is still 2.5% of the overall yearly US military budget. Maybe trim that a bit to remove illegals?
Zulithe
10-28-2024, 07:16 AM
Could you list some of those interesting points? I'm very wary of watching political content on Youtube.
You should find a way to watch it because she is a great speaker. But.
Here i summarized it with Ai cause i'm lazy
https://app.notta.ai/youtube-summarizer/a39c0acc-8cff-4da5-8714-f4043c98089a
One big takeaway is trump would need to see an uptick in male voter registrations and there has not been.
Mayhem
10-28-2024, 09:29 AM
There used to be someone in the UK with this type of slogan in the past, and he was a peadophile too...!
https://i.imgur.com/7T2qcqq.jpeg
Zulithe
10-28-2024, 09:37 AM
Jimmy Savile yeah, I watched a documentary about him. I bet Trump and him would get along wonderfully.
Vegita-San
10-28-2024, 10:21 AM
my first vote ever, and it's going to be for trump.
The Lefties have proven they are INSANE at this point, and this is an election where it finally feels like the outcome matters.
I feel like this time, there are alot of people like me.
Cowabung-Gal
10-28-2024, 10:28 AM
Hardly, the US has spent $64bn to date aiding Ukraine since early 2022.
As of June 30, 2024, since February 2022 the U.S. Congress had appropriated more than $174.2 billion in supplemental funding for the U.S. response to Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine. The most recent supplemental appropriation was signed into law on April 24, 2024 provided nearly $61 billion to address the conflict in Ukraine, of which approximately $48.4 billion will be administered by the DoD, $11.6 billion by State and USAID, and nearly $1 billion for other U.S. Government agencies.
https://www.ukraineoversight.gov/Funding/
Andrew NDB
10-28-2024, 10:32 AM
"But it's all being spent on American-made munitions!" etc., etc.. So good that companies building missiles in the U.S. are getting some money. Does anyone even know anyone that works for a missile-building company? And what, is the hope that the guys at missile building companies that get the Ukraine contracts will take those bonuses and, what, buy extra stuff on Amazon? To go into sales tax to go to schools to better teach kids about systemic racism or something? I'm not sure how this is helping anybody.
Zulithe
10-28-2024, 11:36 AM
It's not going away.
Outrage grows over Puerto Rico ‘island of garbage’ racist jibes during Trump MSG rally
https://www.yahoo.com/news/outrage-grows-over-puerto-rico-145800968.html
Trump's Madison Square Garden rally overshadowed by his allies' crude and racist remarks
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-madison-square-garden-rally-041708945.html
‘Disgusted:’ Offensive remarks about Puerto Rico at Trump rally ignite furor in Florida GOP
https://www.yahoo.com/news/disgusted-offensive-remarks-puerto-rico-150008174.html
Andrew NDB
10-28-2024, 11:46 AM
It's not going away.
Outrage grows over Puerto Rico ‘island of garbage’ racist jibes during Trump MSG rally
https://www.yahoo.com/news/outrage-grows-over-puerto-rico-145800968.html
There goes the leftists... getting mad at comedians again. smdh
CyberCubed
10-28-2024, 11:51 AM
my first vote ever, and it's going to be for trump.
The Lefties have proven they are INSANE at this point, and this is an election where it finally feels like the outcome matters.
I feel like this time, there are alot of people like me.
This is the first time you've ever voted in your entire life? Aren't you in your mid-40's?
There goes the leftists... getting mad at comedians again. smdh
It's all they've got. Narrative twisting and dishonest tactics. Honestly after studying the psychology for years and knowing the habits of various criminals and their embedding tactics you'd be amazed at how these people hide themselves by literally saying their crime but putting it on other people. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if a few of the Harris supporters in this very thread are pedophiles or other deeply corrupted people themselves.
That's literally how people who embed in mania like this operate. The left tactic is to DO the very thing they claim they are fighting. Like Harris' interview routine - empty platitudes about "lifting up people" side-by-side with deep Trump-assaults, but nothing of merit. Literally nothing at all.
Coola Yagami
10-28-2024, 01:46 PM
Honestly, despite all the Trumpamania stuff, the dude is only getting support from his regulars. He's not getting any new support. And doing stuff like calling out Detroit while in Detroit and other nonsense is not helping his case any.
Honestly after seeing the drama break down at his rallies all I see a whole bunch of people that would want to see me dead. Like, I don't see a single Hispanic or black person in the entire rally. The camera can't be panning to the only-white parts of the rally all the time. But I thought half the country loved Trump.
I mean let's be honest. I could show up at one of those rallies, wearing a Trump shirt and the cursed red hat, and they'd still want to deport me, if not beat the **** out of me. And my only crime would have been to show up support the orange goof which should be my god-given right as an American. But heeeey guess I'm just the wrong skin tone, eh?
FredWolfLeonardo
10-28-2024, 01:52 PM
There used to be someone in the UK with this type of slogan in the past, and he was a peadophile too...!
Bob the Builder? Can't think of anyone else with the "fix it" slogan.
Andrew NDB
10-28-2024, 01:54 PM
Honestly after seeing the drama break down at his rallies all I see a whole bunch of people that would want to see me dead.
You've been listening to too much AOC. Or something.
FredWolfLeonardo
10-28-2024, 02:03 PM
Honestly, despite all the Trumpamania stuff, the dude is only getting support from his regulars. He's not getting any new support. And doing stuff like calling out Detroit while in Detroit and other nonsense is not helping his case any.
Honestly after seeing the drama break down at his rallies all I see a whole bunch of people that would want to see me dead. Like, I don't see a single Hispanic or black person in the entire rally. The camera can't be panning to the only-white parts of the rally all the time. But I thought half the country loved Trump.
I mean let's be honest. I could show up at one of those rallies, wearing a Trump shirt and the cursed red hat, and they'd still want to deport me, if not beat the **** out of me. And my only crime would have been to show up support the orange goof which should be my god-given right as an American. But heeeey guess I'm just the wrong skin tone, eh?
This post sounds very liberal. Not very tough.
Barkworm
10-28-2024, 02:07 PM
It's all they've got. Narrative twisting and dishonest tactics. Honestly after studying the psychology for years and knowing the habits of various criminals and their embedding tactics you'd be amazed at how these people hide themselves by literally saying their crime but putting it on other people. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if a few of the Harris supporters in this very thread are pedophiles or other deeply corrupted people themselves.
You are not calling people here pedophiles for hating on Trump.
Coola Yagami
10-28-2024, 02:21 PM
You've been listening to too much AOC. Or something.
Naw, I'm just looking at live footage from the some of the rallies, all I see is a sea of white, and I bet at least half of em are racists. Face it dude, you're also Hispanic or half Hispanic. Even if you showed up there decked in red, white and blue and had your MAGA hat on, you wouldn't exactly be made to be felt too welcome there, assuming they even let you in and don't tell you 'you lost or something, beaner? I don't think you're in the right place, or country'.
Andrew NDB
10-28-2024, 02:23 PM
Naw, I'm just looking at live footage from the some of the rallies, all I see is a sea of white, and I bet at least half of em are racists. Face it dude, you're also Hispanic or half Hispanic. Even if you showed up there decked in red, white and blue and had your MAGA hat on, you wouldn't exactly be made to be felt too welcome there, assuming they even let you in and tell you 'you lost or something, beaner? I don't think you're in the right place, or country'.
Nonsense. And you do see a lot of black guys at most of these (and the camera makes sure you see them). And it's one thing for black guys or Hispanic guys to publicly "support" Trump... it's quite another to physically show up at one of these rallies. Or even to show up at any kind of rally. That's generally only a certain type of person.
Mayhem
10-28-2024, 02:28 PM
Bob the Builder? Can't think of anyone else with the "fix it" slogan.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Jim%27ll_Fix_It_Titles.jpg
Turns out, worst kept secret in the BBC, he was a raging paedophile but a lot didn’t come out in public until after he died.
Coola Yagami
10-28-2024, 02:31 PM
Nonsense. And you do see a lot of black guys at most of these (and the camera makes sure you see them). And it's one thing for black guys or Hispanic guys to publicly "support" Trump... it's quite another to physically show up at one of these rallies. Or even to show up at any kind of rally. That's generally only a certain type of person.
Didn't see any at that Detroit rally. Or the one where he left early and people had to find their way home. Even when they show parts where the stands are kinda empty, it's still all white folks. They show footage of people leaving, all white folks. Trumps did a little dance the other day, all white folks attending that one too. Like the point isn't to show white folks but to show the latest 'Trump did what? Trump said what?' and it just so happens it's nothing but white folks at the scene.
And I'm talking about showing up at the rallies. I mean if 'we're' (and I[m only saying we as an example, don't count me into that) all Trumps fans, should we not be able to attend the rallies to show our support and be completely safe and sound regardless our skin color?
Mayhem
10-28-2024, 02:32 PM
I mean let's be honest. I could show up at one of those rallies, wearing a Trump shirt and the cursed red hat, and they'd still want to deport me, if not beat the **** out of me. And my only crime would have been to show up support the orange goof which should be my god-given right as an American. But heeeey guess I'm just the wrong skin tone, eh?
And now do you see the issue many of us have with those who support Trump, because they follow his same principles of “screw the non whites”? I may not like you for your comments or your political views, but I’m certainly not going to be hating you because of your skin colour.
Mayhem
10-28-2024, 02:34 PM
https://www.ukraineoversight.gov/Funding/
Yes, I misread the paragraph in question. The percentage funding Ukraine per year to date is still a drop in the ocean re the total military budget.
CyberCubed
10-28-2024, 04:09 PM
Coola is waking up!
Coola Yagami
10-28-2024, 04:11 PM
Coola is waking up!
My pronouns are now The Master/The Overlord.
ResidentEvil7
10-28-2024, 04:33 PM
I love being white.
So do I. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm just sick of being hated on for being white by minorities and the left.
CyberCubed
10-28-2024, 04:43 PM
I love being white.
Didn't you say you were from Mexico? :lol:
Andrew NDB
10-28-2024, 04:48 PM
I love being white.
Didn't you say you were from Mexico? :lol:
Wait, wasn't sdp the one that said he was an overweight black chick and that he was so happy that he had representation with the new movie April? Around the same time the last movie was being promoted? Did I imagine that?
Mayhem
10-28-2024, 05:46 PM
Didn't you say you were from Mexico? :lol:
You do get white people in Mexico you know heh, in the same way there are many white people born in the Caribbean.
Bahamut810
10-28-2024, 05:53 PM
all I see is a sea of white, and I bet at least half of em are racists.
By modern redefinition, all of them would be racist. No matter what they say, do or think...white people are all racist. Remember? Thats why you cant take accusations of racism seriously anymore.
ranger_scout
10-28-2024, 06:14 PM
The vice president was caught on mic while conversing with Gov. Gretchen Whitmer admitting that her campaign is struggling with male voters.
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-harris-campaign-trail-msg-election-10-28-24
Photos and videos have resurfaced of her spending time with the ant-Catholic hate group the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.
https://catholicvote.org/kamala-harris-celebrates-with-anti-catholic-hate-group-in-new-catholicvote-ad/
Mayhem
10-28-2024, 07:38 PM
There’s giving the wrong people ideas, and then there’s… well, he’s perfectly allowed to now given the Trump ruling…
https://i.imgur.com/niMvXHg.jpeg
Coola Yagami
10-28-2024, 08:00 PM
By modern redefinition, all of them would be racist. No matter what they say, do or think...white people are all racist. Remember? Thats why you cant take accusations of racism seriously anymore.
It would be silly to say all of them are racists. But c'mon, Trump rally. Following his ideals. He's got them so fired up against 'those darn illegals', I could go to a rally with Andrew, both of us in full MAGA gear and you'd never find our bodies afterwards.
Cowabung-Gal
10-28-2024, 08:19 PM
Warning: Language in Instagram video
https://www.instagram.com/tuckercarlson/reel/DA4Fho8htJV/
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“Strength Through Joy”
Huh.
Speaking of hurtful jokes, George Lopez made a joke about Mexicans naturally being thieves at a Walz rally, and people are arguing that he’s allowed to make those kinds of jokes because he’s Hispanic. Okay, but if I compare people who are viscously arguing over the Israel-Palestine conflict to the angry mob of high school girls in the movie Mean Girls, I get called a self-loathing sexist. Just admit, “It’s okay if we do it.”
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People are getting mad at Jeff Bezos, the owner of The Washington Post, because he has declined to endorse Harris. But isn’t that a good thing? Shouldn’t news media outlets be unbiased anyway and not endorse any candidate?
Andrew NDB
10-28-2024, 08:42 PM
It would be silly to say all of them are racists. But c'mon, Trump rally. Following his ideals. He's got them so fired up against 'those darn illegals', I could go to a rally with Andrew, both of us in full MAGA gear and you'd never find our bodies afterwards.
What are some examples of non-white people showing up to MAGA rallies in support and getting beat up or killed? As in, any?
CyberCubed
10-28-2024, 08:43 PM
It would be silly to say all of them are racists. But c'mon, Trump rally. Following his ideals. He's got them so fired up against 'those darn illegals', I could go to a rally with Andrew, both of us in full MAGA gear and you'd never find our bodies afterwards.
I mean...you're right. It's true to say not all the people at those rally's have bad intentions, but I'd wager at least 50% do.
I'm glad you're finally "woken up" Coola. :tparty: You're seeing what a lot of people saw as far back as 2016. It kind of blows my mind so many minorities or people on the autistic spectrum genuinely believe Trump is there for them. Like you saw the way he just thought a single roll of paper towels was going to help Puerto Rico when they were devastated by a hurricane a couple years ago. :lol:
We're in the endgame now.
Coola Yagami
10-28-2024, 10:28 PM
What are some examples of non-white people showing up to MAGA rallies in support and getting beat up or killed? As in, any?
I'll let you know as soon as any non-white people that aren't 'Blacks for Trump' plants actually attend one of those.
Coola Yagami
10-28-2024, 10:30 PM
I mean...you're right. It's true to say not all the people at those rally's have bad intentions, but I'd wager at least 50% do.
I'm glad you're finally "woken up" Coola. :tparty: You're seeing what a lot of people saw as far back as 2016. It kind of blows my mind so many minorities or people on the autistic spectrum genuinely believe Trump is there for them. Like you saw the way he just thought a single roll of paper towels was going to help Puerto Rico when they were devastated by a hurricane a couple years ago. :lol:
We're in the endgame now.
I was never on his side. I was getting tired of people being obsessed over the guy wether you're for or against. Like ok you love/hate the guy. Move the **** on and don't make it your entire personality.
Cowabung-Gal
10-29-2024, 12:41 AM
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Well, so much for escapism.
Have we forgotten their attitude toward gaming culture?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/27/opinion/gaming-new-zealand-shooter.html
https://harvardpolitics.com/the-alt-right-as-counterculture-memes-video-games-and-violence/
And didn’t Kamala at one point call 18 to 24 year olds, who comprise over 60% of Fortnite players, “stupid”?
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https://media1.tenor.com/m/XEHxHhccVKMAAAAC/the-croods-its-called-desperation.gif
Zulithe
10-29-2024, 02:45 AM
Bernie gives his thoughts on the war in Gaza and why we should STILL vote for Kamala.
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Zulithe
10-29-2024, 04:19 AM
The shock comic who opened for Trump at MSG was planning to call Harris a "c*nt" in his set. It got flagged by the campaign:
Trump’s Shock Comic Was Set to Call Harris a ‘C*nt’ (https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trumps-shock-comic-was-set-to-call?r=1edyjz&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true)
DONALD TRUMP’S CAMPAIGN WAS LEFT scrambling Sunday night after roast-comic Tony Hinchcliffe made insulting jokes about Hispanic and black people on stage at the ex-president’s Madison Square Garden rally.
The lines sparked immediate backlash and even condemnation from fellow Republicans. But four top campaign sources said it could have been even worse.
“He had a joke calling [Vice President Kamala] Harris a ‘****,’” a campaign insider involved in the discussions about the event told The Bulwark. “Let’s say it was a red flag.”
Campaign staffers had asked all speakers to submit drafts of their speeches ahead of time—before they were loaded into the teleprompter—according to the aforementioned sources. Once the objectionable “****” joke was spotted, the sources said, a staffer asked Hinchcliffe to strike it. He complied.
Anyone saying the trump campaign has nothing to do with the comments is lying. They said right here that they removed the 'c-word' from his set. Which means they approved all the other things. They approved the puerto rico comments, the ones about jews, blacks, etc.
MORE:
Elon Musk quietly deletes post from his pro-Trump PAC calling Kamala
Harris a “C-word” (tap to see deleted post text) (https://x.com/MeidasTouch/status/1850957652706410910)
Picture of the deleted tweet in the link.
Elon is vile. Maybe we can deport him after Trump loses. It's the least he deserves.
I was never on his side. I was getting tired of people being obsessed over the guy wether you're for or against. Like ok you love/hate the guy. Move the **** on and don't make it your entire personality.
We are tired too. We don't sit around with joy in our hearts talking about all the insane crap Trump and his orbiters spew out. It's cause we object to that being normalized. We want better for our country and we ARE FORCED to talk about it because it's how we can protest it. To not protest this insanity is immortal and unjust. Look at all the people he wants to harm and take rights away from and livelihoods away from. I will not say nothing.
Get rid of Trump and the rhetoric will die down and we can start to all feel normal again and go about our lives. There is ONE SIDE escalating things and it's not Kamala's.
ZariusTwo
10-29-2024, 04:44 AM
Turns out, worst kept secret in the BBC, he was a raging paedophile but a lot didn’t come out in public until after he died.
And the BBC are still protecting Paedophiles until they're caught. Look at the latest scandal with Huw Edwards
Zulithe
10-29-2024, 07:25 AM
VOTER FRAUD!
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/woman-forged-dead-moms-signature-ballot-charges/
ITASCA COUNTY, Minn. — A 50-year-old Minnesota woman is facing voter fraud charges after signing her dead mom's signature on two absentee ballots.
On Oct. 9, the Itasca County Auditor contacted the Itasca County Sheriff's Office about possible voter fraud involving two absentee ballots, charges say. The ballot envelopes weren't opened, but flagged for fraud based on the signature envelopes.
The ballots, which were received Oct. 7 by the auditor's office, were for the woman and her mother. The criminal complaint, citing the Minnesota Vital Statistics Death Report of Itasca County, said the mother died on Aug. 31.
On Oct. 11, the sheriff's office spoke to the woman, who said she filled out her mother's absentee ballot and signed her mom's name on the signature envelope, the complaint says. The woman said her mom was an avid Donald Trump supporter and had wanted to vote for him, but had passed away before the absentee ballots were received.
The woman, according to the complaint, also said she filled out her own absentee ballot and signed her mother's signature as the witness.
She faces two counts of intentionally signing false certificates and one count of casting an illegal vote or adding another.
Something something projection
and that's before we talk about the ballot boxes being found on fire in liberal voting areas. But thankfully they identified the person's vehicle. arrest should be forthcoming.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/28/us/ballot-box-fires-oregon-washington/index.html
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Julia Roberts wants you to vote. And reminds you... you don't have to tell your husband who you vote for.
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How Trump Goes to Prison If he loses the race for the White House, the big house awaits. (https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-prison-election.html)
Donald Trump is facing an extreme sliding-doors scenario on Election Day. If he wins, he would have the power to single-handedly scuttle the federal criminal cases against him, be immune from prosecution while in office, and, thanks to the Supreme Court, have broad immunity from prosecution once — if — he leaves. If he loses, though, he will face criminal penalties that could leave him in command of a 70-square-foot prison cell for most of the rest of his life.
“He will be facing serious legal jeopardy if he loses. He knows that,” says Bennett Gershman, a professor of constitutional law at Pace Law School who served for a decade as a New York prosecutor. “It’s probably on his mind every day. He faces four very, very serious cases, in one of which he has already been convicted as a felon. The others are easily convictable.”
The minute it becomes clear that Trump has lost the election, his legal team will be preparing for the fight of a lifetime to keep him out of prison. “This defendant will use every means at his disposal to delay the outcome and complicate the adjudication,” says Martin Horn, a professor of corrections at John Jay College and the executive director of the New York State Sentencing Commission. “Who knows what legal maneuvers are available to him?”
Here is a look at where the four cases against Trump stand and how they might play out.
With a Harris victory we will have a LOT to celebrate.
Vegita-San
10-29-2024, 09:32 AM
Unfit to lead.
WATCH: Audience Member at Univision Town Hall Stunned by Trump’s Claim That Ashli Babbitt Was the Only Person Killed On Jan. 6 (https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-audience-member-at-univision-town-hall-stunned-by-trumps-claim-that-ashli-babbitt-was-the-only-jan-6-death/)
because she was.
Vegita-San
10-29-2024, 09:34 AM
the democrats pushed too far into crazy town this time. registered to vote, and cast it for trump. make america great again.
Vegita-San
10-29-2024, 10:37 AM
The polls for this election are the weirdest I have ever seen. In any other year, there was a very clear lean towards one candidate. This year it's nothing like that at all and all forecast models I'm following show an almost literal 50:50 race.
If you live in a swing state and want to make a difference, get everyone you know out to vote. Turnout is more important than ever.
we have never been more divided, and this is the LAST thing we needed. ANOTHER close election.
you are either for freedom, Independant Trump Republicans. or for business as usual, Facism/Socialism with republicans and democrats.
no middle ground anymore.
Andrew NDB
10-29-2024, 11:10 AM
Good lord... who does Bernie Sanders and Julia Roberts think we should vote for? Are you kidding me? What are you people, cartoon characters?
I was never on his side.
It's never really been about being on his side, it's just who we have left to vote for on a policy level. Trump certainly wouldn't have been my top pick but he's what we've got.
Barkworm
10-29-2024, 11:21 AM
we have never been more divided, and this is the LAST thing we needed. ANOTHER close election.
There hasn‘t been a close presidential election since 2000.
Zulithe
10-29-2024, 11:22 AM
Good lord... who does Bernie Sanders and Julia Roberts think we should vote for? Are you kidding me? What are you people, cartoon characters?
DECENT People sharing who they think is the right pick.
You got any DECENT people to share? People who are aspirational on any level. If you think Hulk Hogan or Dr Phil count, I got news for you...
People always roll their eyes when someone supports the side they don't like. Big deal. But when you start looking at what kind of people are supporting one side, and which kind of people are supporting the other, it sure paints a very interesting picture. Putting it lightly.
Coola Yagami
10-29-2024, 11:24 AM
Good lord... who does Bernie Sanders and Julia Roberts think we should vote for? Are you kidding me? What are you people, cartoon characters?
It's never really been about being on his side, it's just who we have left to vote for on a policy level. Trump certainly wouldn't have been my top pick but he's what we've got.
Even then, Kamala is still the lesser of 2 evils. I'd rather put up with people puking rainbows than risk any of that Project 2025 moving forward. Sure Trump says he 'doesn't know about it' but at this point I wouldn't trust him if he said the sky was blue.
Andrew NDB
10-29-2024, 11:24 AM
DECENT People sharing who they think is the right pick.
A communist and an actress who hasn't been relevant in 20 years? How?
You got any DECENT people to share? People who are aspirational on any level.
Like, other celebrities? Why should that matter? Policies > feelings, at every step of the way.
I'd rather put up with people puking rainbows than risk any of that Project 2025 moving forward. Sure Trump says he 'doesn't know about it' but at this point I wouldn't trust him if he said the sky was blue.
Aw jesus... they got you with the Project 2025 boogeyman, didn't they? And Trump didn't just not know much about Project 2025, in the wake of his dismissal of it the people responsible all stepped down and shuttered it.
Barkworm
10-29-2024, 11:33 AM
Policies > feelings, at every step of the way.
It‘s all about feelings: Your feelings about illegal immigration, about LGBT issues, about the economy etc. Then you pick the side that promises to comfort these feelings. The ‘policies‘ are nothing more.
Zulithe
10-29-2024, 11:33 AM
Harris rally expected to draw more than 50K to downtown DC (https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/harris-rally-expected-to-draw-in-over-50000-attendees-on-tuesday-in-dc/3752938/)
Trump had 19,500 at his madison square garden rally. 50K isn't a final number, we'll see how things pan out.
House election forecast latest update (https://www.racetothewh.com/house)
Dems current predicted to have 70% chance to win majority.
This next week is gonna be tense. Everyone stay calm :)
because she was.
Well I already wrote out my thoughts on what you are responding to so I won't go over it again.
Oh, but I do have some updated news from you! Another hog got his butt handed to him in court. The Bob's Burgers guy will get 1yr in prison for his role in the Jan 6th insurrection
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/bob-s-burgers-voice-actor-sentenced-to-a-year-and-a-day-in-jan-6-riot/ar-AA1t5CsH
Barkworm
10-29-2024, 11:40 AM
This next week is gonna be tense. Everyone stay calm :)
Are you? I‘m on the edge of my seat here.
Andrew NDB
10-29-2024, 11:45 AM
Honestly, beyond things like this board or little chats with people IRL or otherwise I don't think I'll dip my toe into much into the political sphere for the next week. It's just not worth looking at until its in the rearview now. The left is going full hog with their last desperate bit of ammo they always reserve for when they have nothing else left ("he's actual Hitler!" "threat to democracy!" "This is exactly like Berlin," "Remember, we came THIIIS close to losing the whole country on January 6th!" etc.) so that's not exactly going to provoke any kind of productive conversation, to say nothing of division, and the other side is going to run the risk of getting cocky and saying dumb things and making everybody go "reeeeEEEEEEE!!!" that is either in the media or a bluehair which is just annoying to sit back and look at or listen to.
Zulithe
10-29-2024, 11:52 AM
Look, I'm a white dude and natural born citizen living in a very progressive state. If Trump were to win, I'm fully insulated from everything that could possibly go wrong sans a nuclear war or something on that level. My life isn't impacted. My views on policies are for the greater country and people in other states, who I want to see have the best lives possible. I will feel their pain but much like 2016-20 I can weather it, and my state can weather it.
It's to close to 50/50 chance of either candidate that you could literally flip a quarter to decide who wins and the odds would be no different, which is scary and sad to me, but it's what it is...
We'll be having champagne on election evening at my household. Either I'll be celebrating or I'll be drowning my sorrows, what else can be done at this point.
Andrew NDB
10-29-2024, 11:54 AM
It's to close to 50/50 chance of either candidate
The saddest part to me is that it IS that close. It really shouldn't be. Not for people that have held a job, have a family, have two eyes and ears and have been sentient for the past 3 1/2 years. It just boggles the mind.
Cowabung-Gal
10-29-2024, 12:14 PM
Joe Rogan revealed that the Harris campaign offered an appearance on the podcast, but there were…conditions. Rogan would have had to travel to the setting they’d pick and the interview would be an hour long.
Zulithe
10-29-2024, 12:30 PM
Joe Rogan revealed that the Harris campaign offered an appearance on the podcast, but there were…conditions. Rogan would have had to travel to the setting they’d pick and the interview would be an hour long.
I think that's the harris campaign putting low value on doing the interview, because they know rogan doesn't travel to do interviews but they wanted to flex anyway to see if he'd capitulate
Rather she wins or loses I guess we can look back and decide rather missing the interview matters much or not.
I'd totally watch it but don't care all that much especially at this late stage of the election cycle.
FredWolfLeonardo
10-29-2024, 01:47 PM
It‘s all about feelings: Your feelings about illegal immigration, about LGBT issues, about the economy etc. Then you pick the side that promises to comfort these feelings. The ‘policies‘ are nothing more.
You are 100% right.
My support for Trump is rooted in feelings.
If hypothetically, Trump became liberal tomorrow, I'd still follow his charisma and I would become a liberal. But that would never happen because Trump's charisma comes from his radical right wing views.
Zulithe
10-29-2024, 01:53 PM
If hypothetically, Trump became liberal tomorrow, I'd still follow his charisma and I would become a liberal. But that would never happen because Trump's charisma comes from his radical right wing views.
Strangest thing I ever read.
And he wasn't right wing all his life, Obama just broke his brain. Why? For no good reason apart from he's black.
Vegita-San
10-29-2024, 02:09 PM
The saddest part to me is that it IS that close. It really shouldn't be. Not for people that have held a job, have a family, have two eyes and ears and have been sentient for the past 3 1/2 years. It just boggles the mind.
remember, the main stream media is run by the democratic party. at some point, they claimed harris was 'leading' trump by maybe 5%. didn't buy it for a second.
the only thing I worry a bout is that blue line all the way at the bottom, suddenly climbing to the top again at the last 30 minutes.
Coola Yagami
10-29-2024, 02:18 PM
I'm kinda bowing out til the election is over and we have a winner, not counting any posts I might make in the TMNT comic section.
In my opinion Kamala is the lesser of the two evils. I can put up with four years of woke. I can simply not watch the movies, not buy the videogames, not buy the comics, vote with my wallet. But four years of that goofball, people emulating his views and all the Project 2025 stuff? Risk getting deported even though I'm an American born citizen just based on the color of my skin? Plus the dude wants to get rid of elections so you'd never have to vote again? And other such nonsense? No thanks. I'll just ignore the trans flags. I'd rather deal with minor annoyances than larger consequences.
Andrew NDB
10-29-2024, 02:28 PM
Risk getting deported even though I'm an American born citizen just based on the color of my skin?
ROTFLOL... where in the blue hell are you getting that from?!
Coola Yagami
10-29-2024, 02:34 PM
ROTFLOL... where in the blue hell are you getting that from?!
Part of Project 2025, amigo. If he wins, see ya on the deportation line.
Anyways I'm out.
Andrew NDB
10-29-2024, 02:59 PM
Part of Project 2025, amigo. If he wins, see ya on the deportation line.
Anyways I'm out.
Ridiculous beyond all comprehension. Ridiculous.
Vegita-San
10-29-2024, 03:55 PM
Part of Project 2025, amigo. If he wins, see ya on the deportation line.
Anyways I'm out.
notice they are not talking about jan 7th anymore?
the new 'buzzword' is 2025, and THAT was busted faster than the 6th was.
it's merely 'SUGGESTIONS' about what could be done, and trump had nothing to do with it.
Zulithe
10-29-2024, 04:26 PM
Musk says Americans will have to face 'hardship' if Trump wins
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/elon-musk-trump-hardship-austerity-taxes-rcna177732
No hardship for him though, being a billionaire and all.
CyberCubed
10-29-2024, 04:41 PM
I looked up what this Project 2025 is:
https://www.project2025.org/
They even have their own website and everything. LMAO.
Secure the border, finish building the wall, and deport illegal aliens
De-weaponize the Federal Government by increasing accountability and oversight of the FBI and DOJ
Unleash American energy production to reduce energy prices
Cut the growth of government spending to reduce inflation
Make federal bureaucrats more accountable to the democratically elected President and Congress
Improve education by moving control and funding of education from DC bureaucrats directly to parents and state and local governments
Ban biological males from competing in women' s sports
"Ban males from competing in womens sports?"
WTF?
FredWolfLeonardo
10-29-2024, 04:54 PM
And he wasn't right wing all his life.
Exactly. As soon as Trump became right wing and announced his run for the presidency, he tapped into long held beliefs among the populace.
These beliefs always existed, but Trump's charisma brought them out from the dark and gave them newfound publicity. He is the biggest gift to right-wing nationalists in living memory.
Andrew NDB
10-29-2024, 06:06 PM
As soon as Trump became right wing
Did he, though? He's probably the most centrist president we've ever seen, in terms of actual policy. He's like a more pragmatic New York liberal.
Mayhem
10-29-2024, 07:12 PM
The saddest part to me is that it IS that close. It really shouldn't be. Not for people that have held a job, have a family, have two eyes and ears and have been sentient for the past 3 1/2 years. It just boggles the mind.
It shouldn’t be, yes. How Trump is anywhere near close to Harris is damning on voters in general. Really is **** your feelings…
Zulithe
10-29-2024, 11:39 PM
Trump only appears centrist on the surface. Look at the judges he appointed, because he's easily manipulated by the republicans around him that are advising him. And they overturned roe v wade. Doesn't matter if you don't give a **** about roe, millions upon millions of americans do and find it unforgivable from a health care stance and women's rights stance.
and that's just the #1 example off the top of my head.
And project 2025 is real. to expand on what i just said... doesn't matter what trump says in public, lol. HE IS JUST A PUPPET FOR THE FAR RIGHT REPUBLICANS TO GET WHAT THEY WANT, just like with roe. Trump doesn't create policy, the people around him do and he just nods his head at whatever sounds good. They know this that's why project 2025 was created in the first place, to give them a document to work from.
Here is what Trump would do for his second term: immediately disembowel any legal threats against him, which is his #1 priority. Then play golf at least 70% of his term (just like he did in his first term) while republicans farther right than he is develop and push agendas from project 2025. Then every once in a while trump will do rally cause he needs it for his ego.
Worst president of all time. History books will all be showing it, and some already are.
Coola Yagami
10-30-2024, 01:14 AM
Trump only appears centrist on the surface. Look at the judges he appointed, because he's easily manipulated by the republicans around him that are advising him. And they overturned roe v wade. Doesn't matter if you don't give a **** about roe, millions upon millions of americans do and find it unforgivable from a health care stance and women's rights stance.
and that's just the #1 example off the top of my head.
And project 2025 is real. to expand on what i just said... doesn't matter what trump says in public, lol. HE IS JUST A PUPPET FOR THE FAR RIGHT REPUBLICANS TO GET WHAT THEY WANT, just like with roe. Trump doesn't create policy, the people around him do and he just nods his head at whatever sounds good. They know this that's why project 2025 was created in the first place, to give them a document to work from.
Here is what Trump would do for his second term: immediately disembowel any legal threats against him, which is his #1 priority. Then play golf at least 70% of his term (just like he did in his first term) while republicans farther right than he is develop and push agendas from project 2025. Then every once in a while trump will do rally cause he needs it for his ego.
Worst president of all time. History books will all be showing it, and some already are.
Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.
FredWolfLeonardo
10-30-2024, 01:18 AM
Trump only appears centrist on the surface. Look at the judges he appointed, because he's easily manipulated by the republicans around him that are advising him. And they overturned roe v wade. Doesn't matter if you don't give a **** about roe, millions upon millions of americans do and find it unforgivable from a health care stance and women's rights stance.
and that's just the #1 example off the top of my head.
And project 2025 is real. to expand on what i just said... doesn't matter what trump says in public, lol. HE IS JUST A PUPPET FOR THE FAR RIGHT REPUBLICANS TO GET WHAT THEY WANT, just like with roe. Trump doesn't create policy, the people around him do and he just nods his head at whatever sounds good. They know this that's why project 2025 was created in the first place, to give them a document to work from.
Here is what Trump would do for his second term: immediately disembowel any legal threats against him, which is his #1 priority. Then play golf at least 70% of his term (just like he did in his first term) while republicans farther right than he is develop and push agendas from project 2025. Then every once in a while trump will do rally cause he needs it for his ego.
100% true.
The only difference between me and you is I think that all of this is awesome and you think that this is horrific.
Coola Yagami
10-30-2024, 01:23 AM
100% true.
The only difference between me and you is I think that all of this is awesome and you think that this is horrific.
You think people getting deported regardless of if they're legally born citizens or not is awesome????
FredWolfLeonardo
10-30-2024, 01:32 AM
You think people getting deported regardless of if they're legally born citizens or not is awesome????
Awesome dude, Cowabunga.
Are you voting for Harris or just avoiding voting altogether? You come off as one of the "I hate all politics" types, but now with a liberal coat of paint.
Zulithe
10-30-2024, 04:38 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/30/politics/biden-garbage-gaffe-analysis/index.html
I don't have disagreements with Biden's sentiment but of course, he didn't need to hand Trump's campaign this assist and give them a new talking point. Cause now they are acting super outraged about it rofl. So... that sucks for Kamala's side. Biden please just zip it.
I still think no matter how you slice it, calling the entire island of puerto rico garbage vs. calling trump supporters garbage it's really no contest which one is more offensive :lol: but it still didn't need to be said by Biden.
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75,000 attend Harris rally on the site of the Jan 6th insurrection.
https://deadline.com/2024/10/kamala-harris-closing-argument-trump-1236161703/
harris pledges to find common ground in speech:
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Some of you may recall she has also already promised to have a Republican in her cabinet, to further demonstrate her desire for unity.
Mayhem
10-30-2024, 06:10 AM
As I think I've noted before, there was a time when one party won but would work with the other party to find common policies to move America forward. That's long gone since the days of Reagan, and now you hear more bickering, mud slinging, and vitriol about "the other party" than actual constructive policies. More "I'm not going to talk about what we will do, but look at what THEY will do if they get into power".
Harris' pledge to olive branch the Republicans in some way is a much needed first step in some form of consolidation.
Zulithe
10-30-2024, 07:30 AM
Trump is considering halting federal grants to police that decline to participate in mass deportations (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-considering-halting-federal-grants-police-decline-conduct-mass-d-rcna177541)
Everyone, vote.
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Zulithe
10-30-2024, 10:19 AM
Former Gov Schwarzenegger chimes in on election
https://x.com/schwarzenegger/status/1851627802027758005?s=46
Andrew NDB
10-30-2024, 10:37 AM
You think people getting deported regardless of if they're legally born citizens or not is awesome????
I think -- no, I know -- that that's a complete fiction and I'd struggle to fathom where you could derive that as so much as even being a remote possibility. That's like Whoopi on The View the other day saying Trump wants to split up interracial couples and force the white guy to marry a white girl. Complete lunacy of the highest order, based on not even a shred of anything -- either this is true psychopathic behavior or they really believe their viewers are this stupid and malleable. Maybe a mix.
Maybe that is what you've been watching lately? The View? :lol:
Former Gov Schwarzenegger chimes in on election
https://x.com/schwarzenegger/status/1851627802027758005?s=46
Oh, Arnold. If only he had this sort of energy to put into making King Conan happen.
Barkworm
10-30-2024, 10:48 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/30/politics/biden-garbage-gaffe-analysis/index.html
I don't have disagreements with Biden's sentiment but of course, he didn't need to hand Trump's campaign this assist and give them a new talking point. Cause now they are acting super outraged about it rofl. So... that sucks for Kamala's side. Biden please just zip it.
You think it will drive voters away if Biden calls Trump voters ‘garbage‘? I don't think anyone cares at this point. The Trump crowd probably sees it as a badge of honour.
Cowabung-Gal
10-30-2024, 10:57 AM
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“I come from the middle class”
https://media1.tenor.com/m/hYoWWcH0pqIAAAAC/what-did-not-see-that-coming.gif
I wouldn’t be surprised if Kamala’s first job interview went something like this:
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So much for unity.
https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/biden-good-october-surprise-obama-trump-supporters-garbage.jpg?resize=614%2C407&ssl=1
Mayhem
10-30-2024, 11:37 AM
Former Gov Schwarzenegger chimes in on election
https://x.com/schwarzenegger/status/1851627802027758005?s=46
Interesting to see the responses, between yes yes agree, I don't agree but I understand your position, and the obvious MAGA inbreds screaming abuse and obscenities because another RINO (in their eyes) is diminishing their orange coloured god.
Also LOL at Triumph, miss that dog...
(met Rob Smigel a long time ago, he was greatly impressed that Triumph's reach beyond the US was greater than he could imagine!)
TonySiegel
10-30-2024, 11:38 AM
Yea, Trump exudes class, morality and is courteous to his opposition. Unlike the Libs right ? :roll:
CyberCubed
10-30-2024, 11:57 AM
Love how Arnold says he hates politics and feels the republican party has gotten worse but doesn't care for either side. But he is voting for Kamala as many knew he would. He voted against Trump the previous two times as well for Hilary and Joe Biden.
The Terminator has spoken.
Cowabung-Gal
10-30-2024, 11:59 AM
Yea, Trump exudes class, morality and is courteous to his opposition. Unlike the Libs right ? :roll:
“Yeah, okay, but Trump”
https://media.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/look-at-me-on-my-high-horse-0ef23.png
Or “mule” would be more appropriate.
Watch out for those "military camps". They are coming for you! And they are especially coming for those who are most worried about "our Democracy". They are coming for you first.
Seriously... be careful....
Bahamut810
10-30-2024, 04:27 PM
You think people getting deported regardless of if they're legally born citizens or not is awesome????
Citation? I don't think I have seen anything that supports deporting naturally born citizens. That would be foolish because they have never been citizens anywhere else.
Trump is considering halting federal grants to police that decline to participate in mass deportations
Everyone, vote.
Good. Every person who crosses the border illegally has committed a crime as their very first action coming into the country. If blue states are refusing to go after criminals, why should my Tax dollars go to that?
Re: Everyone quoting celebrities endorsing this person or that...
Stop. Why are you taking advice from celebrities because most of them are smart enough to have hired someone to do their thinking for them while they make art. The closest person to have an opinion that might mean something is the "Governator" and whoever wrote that for him talked a pretty good game. Its kind of stupid to say you hate politics and want to bring power back to the people and support someone who is the opposite.
Mayhem
10-30-2024, 04:45 PM
Good. Every person who crosses the border illegally has committed a crime as their very first action coming into the country. If blue states are refusing to go after criminals, why should my Tax dollars go to that?
You do realise he’s also going after non citizens who are legally allowed to stay in the US, right?
CyberCubed
10-30-2024, 06:57 PM
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article294768874.html
Basically 1 in 20 people living in Florida alone would be deported based on Trumps plans. And this is just one state.
Mayhem
10-30-2024, 07:32 PM
The important bits from the article being…
The annual U.S. GDP could drop by as much as 6.8%, according to the report, while government tax coffers that pay for schools and other critical services would also take a hit. Undocumented immigrants paid nearly $77 billion in local, state, and federal taxes in 2022, the researchers found.
And while undocumented immigrants cannot tap into federal social-safety net programs such as Social Security and Medicare, those programs would lose out on tens of billions of dollars in tax contributions should undocumented immigrants be deported.
So they pay in $77bn and don’t take out SS or Medicare… what was that about living on benefits and sponging off the system?
Bahamut810
10-30-2024, 08:17 PM
You do realise he’s also going after non citizens who are legally allowed to stay in the US, right?
Normally I would ask for a citation, but I don't care because I don't like Trump. A broken clock is right twice a day and in this instance...he is right. The biggest part that I agree is that the places that would be affected by this aren't deporting 'more serious' criminals...they are protecting them from deportation. If they decide they want to protect them from being sent back to their own countries to commit crimes there then they are welcome to the taxes those people probably arent paying.
I am glad everyone else pay taxes...but if they commit crimes but still value being here then they can get in legally and pay those taxes again.
Cowabung-Gal
10-30-2024, 09:30 PM
Peter Laird and Kevin Eastman would never vote for Trump.
And…?
Since you care so much about the opinions of creators, I hope you’re not a Five Nights At Freddy’s fan ‘cause I’ve got some bad news for you…
CyberCubed
10-30-2024, 09:37 PM
Seriously, if Trump lost to Joe Biden 4 years ago I really don't think he's going to win now. The same people who voted against him last time are probably going to do so again. Not to mention far more people hate or don't care about Trump anymore compared to even before that in 2020 (and Hilary was also hated, so there was that too back then).
Now that we're near the end, I'll be genuinely surprised if Trump wins. It just doesn't seem like it to me, but what do I know? I guess we'll see, but I'm guessing he's not going to be elected.
FredWolfLeonardo
10-30-2024, 09:53 PM
Peter Laird and Kevin Eastman would never vote for Trump.
The Fred Wolf fanboys like myself will then support Trump even harder :lol:
Seriously, if Trump lost to Joe Biden 4 years ago I really don't think he's going to win now.
I think Joe Biden is much better than Kamala, relatively speaking. I get the impression he was much more likeable than her among the populace, and his polling vs Trump in 2020 was better than Kamala's polling now.
Zulithe
10-30-2024, 11:43 PM
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article294768874.html
Basically 1 in 20 people living in Florida alone would be deported based on Trumps plans. And this is just one state.
putting aside the fact that a lot of them have some legal standing for staying here, just from a state income perspective alone this would be hard on the state. people all buy food, buy clothes, electronics, services, pay taxes on every purchase they make, pay bills, fill jobs a lot of other people would not want to do, on and on.
I do agree we have a housing crisis in most highly populated places in the usa, so it might help on that part A LITTLE, but I think we all are aware by now that lower income people tend to live many people to a household so it wouldn't clear up as much housing as a lot of people think.
In short, this has more of a negative impact than most people are seeing on the surface.
Zulithe
10-31-2024, 01:18 AM
Unedited photo of trump from today… ahahahahahaha. Imagine telling your grandchildren you supported this clown.
http://i.imgur.com/L6R1aPBh.png (https://imgur.com/L6R1aPB)
You think it will drive voters away if Biden calls Trump voters ‘garbage‘? I don't think anyone cares at this point. The Trump crowd probably sees it as a badge of honour.
Naa, I mean I completely agree with the sentiment behind his words. I just don't think giving them that easy outrage bait was worth it. The race is super tight dems don't need to give the other side anything worth energizing over. Of course they see it as a badge of honor, just like 'deplorables' (another true thing about them, in the literal sense)
And it's not because I have full disdain for all of the argument on the right, I can actually agree with a few of them. Just not enough to get me on their side. I do think that sacrificing so much about your party to get behind Trump who has abhorrent opinions and is a complete narcissist nutjob is severely damaging to their platform and once Trump is gone we aren't gonna let them forget it who they supported. Own it or we'll make you own it.
http://i.imgur.com/s3sNSmkh.png (https://imgur.com/s3sNSmk)
Zulithe
10-31-2024, 03:39 AM
John Oliver talks about the mass deportation plan in new clip
https://x.com/BlueATLGeorgia/status/1850747465948893186
If you don't want to watch it, let me just say that he outlines we would need to spend nearly 1 Trillion on detention camps to do the deportations Trump wants to do.
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BONUS: "Tonight's monologue is for republicans, so if you have someone in your life who is either planning to vote for Trump or thinking about it, I would like you to send this to a republican"
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includes a nice Trump montage
Mayhem
10-31-2024, 08:11 AM
I am glad everyone else pay taxes...but if they commit crimes but still value being here then they can get in legally and pay those taxes again.
I will note that the majority of what are labelled as "undocumented migrants" came in legally to the country and never left. For example, Elon Musk here, student or temporary work visas/permits, and declined to leave the country when they expired. Yes, people are crossing the border illegally but they are very much the minority of immigrants.
Unedited photo of trump from today… ahahahahahaha. Imagine telling your grandchildren you supported this clown.
I can't see where the high viz ends and Trump begins heh. Or, look folks, you had Trump trading cards and watches, now get the MAGA sex doll...
Zulithe
10-31-2024, 09:17 AM
They are preparing another stop the steal already
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/31/politics/maga-activists-preparing-undermine-election-if-trump-loses/index.html
Bring it on. Love seeing them all get prison sentences.
Andrew NDB
10-31-2024, 10:45 AM
Seriously, if Trump lost to Joe Biden 4 years ago I really don't think he's going to win now. The same people who voted against him last time are probably going to do so again.
We only need a decent amount of independents to. A lot of people were tired of "Trump noise" in 2020 so they wanted a more reasonable alternative, a "return to civility." But then they got Biden-Harris for 3 1/2 years and saw everything fall apart under them, so...
ranger_scout
10-31-2024, 11:25 AM
A CNN analyst gave a warning to Kamala Harris and the Democrats that if Trump wins, then the signs were there all along.
https://www.newsweek.com/cnn-polling-analyst-warning-kamala-harris-1977685
Barkworm
10-31-2024, 11:54 AM
We only need a decent amount of independents to. A lot of people were tired of "Trump noise" in 2020 so they wanted a more reasonable alternative, a "return to civility." But then they got Biden-Harris for 3 1/2 years and saw everything fall apart under them, so...
How does the flourishing economy fit the ‘everything falling apart‘ narrative? Do you just brush that off, is it not strong enough or is the economy not that important all of a sudden?
Coola Yagami
10-31-2024, 12:00 PM
How does the flourishing economy fit the ‘everything falling apart‘ narrative? Do you just brush that off, is it not strong enough or is the economy not that important all of a sudden?
Can the price of grocery bills go back down now, since we're thriving so much in the current flourishing economy then?
Andrew NDB
10-31-2024, 12:00 PM
How does the flourishing economy fit the ‘everything falling apart‘ narrative?
They can keep saying that but nobody is either seeing it or believing it but the True Believers.
For all the talk about wages going up I know I personally haven't seen any pay raises in almost 2 years (and even then it wasn't a raise as much as it was a promotion/transfer), and the company I work for barely has any money for anything anymore (less and less every year) despite doing roughly the same amount of business as 3 years ago. And they can tout the rate of inflation increases has slowed but everything is still sky high at the counter and is certainly not showing any sign of reversing course.
Literally, a $5 footlong is now like $19. That's what I get every other day. And steaks? Forget about ever buying steaks again. This is crazy town. Compound that with things like, "We believe schools should be able to trans your kids and not tell you about it," "There's not an open border! But IF there was -- and we're totally not saying there is -- that'd be a GOOD thing! In fact, we'd want even more judges around to turn the faucet on illeg -- erm, immigration even higher!" "We're not trying to take away anyone's guns! Except, you know, the ones that we keep saying we are. And boy, a buyback program like Australia would be awesome!" "This country is all stolen land and we want to make sure white kids are taught to be ashamed!" "There is systemic racism and this needs to be taught and beat into everyone's brains at the earliest age possible!" "LGBTQ flag is equivalent to the American flag... in fact, it's better!" "Hamas is misunderstood! It's OK to hate the country and burn flags on college campuses." "Free money, for all! Especially for our leftist pet projects, never mind that we're in an inflationary cycle and the prices of everything are already sky high." Forget about it. It's a wrap.
Unedited photo of trump from today… ahahahahahaha. Imagine telling your grandchildren you supported this clown.
Yes, it's good to know that neither Biden or Kamala have ever had a not-great picture taken of them ever, at any time, of any split second of time. It's only Trump that gets bad pictures, ever.
FredWolfLeonardo
10-31-2024, 12:05 PM
How does the flourishing economy fit the ‘everything falling apart‘ narrative? Do you just brush that off, is it not strong enough or is the economy not that important all of a sudden?
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTuNSCeiNepUrGAQAEAgs-X6zTEWBXpLiO7EngLdTLeLHZkYNsqCY0FkRY&s=10
Zulithe
10-31-2024, 12:36 PM
https://i.imgur.com/WxxxNVs.png
https://x.com/admcrlsn/status/1851966423611941252
ranger_scout
10-31-2024, 01:33 PM
A CNN political director said that Harris has a "Biden problem" due to his lagging unpopularity numbers.
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6364033189112
Democrats are already starting to point fingers if Harris loses.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4962275-vice-president-harris-blame-game/
Coola Yagami
10-31-2024, 02:08 PM
I mean, let's face it. Trump is gonna lose cause he's Trump. The Repuplicans should have chosen someone else, someone younger and more well-spoken. Even if the Democrats would have still called the new guy 'Trump-lite', 'worse than Trump', 'the second Trump' or whatever, as long as the actual Trump stayed the **** away from him (mostly cause he'd be too busy dealing with all the trial stuff) he (or she) would have had a chance.
Andrew NDB
10-31-2024, 02:13 PM
The Repuplicans should have chosen someone else, someone younger and more well-spoken.
I agree there. If it was someone like that instead then I can't fathom how the election would be poised to be as close as it is right now. If Trump wins, it will be in spite of him being Trump, really. That there will have been enough independents able to look past media hysteria and TDS (whether their own or what is being projected around/at them), bite their lip and vote for him anyway, which in turn will be a true testimonial for how people are truly pissed off at the current state of things under Biden-Harris.
joe-eyeball
10-31-2024, 02:15 PM
How does the flourishing economy fit the ‘everything falling apart‘ narrative? Do you just brush that off, is it not strong enough or is the economy not that important all of a sudden?
The ignorance in this statement s astounding! Most polls whether it be a liberal or a right leaning one show over and over that most Americans don’t feel the economy is doing great despite what the market, or certain officials, or metrics claim. I think public perception is noteworthy and don’t even try to claim that people that feel that way are being duped! It’s pretty damn obvious that a huge portion of the population are not getting as far with your money these days!
CyberCubed
10-31-2024, 02:53 PM
Even fast food is a luxury item now. I have no idea where all the poor people are eating. Even stores like 7/11 and McDonald's you'll be spending $10-$15 on a simple meal.
Getting a $5 sandwich for lunch is long over. You got to spend around $12 or more now.
Coola Yagami
10-31-2024, 03:07 PM
I mean the stark reality is Kamala herself is barely a factor in this popularity contest. Trump is either gonna lose cause he's Trump... or win because he's Trump.
Andrew NDB
10-31-2024, 03:13 PM
I mean the stark reality is Kamala herself is barely a factor in this popularity contest. Trump is either gonna lose cause he's Trump... or win because he's Trump.
No, I think it's the flip of 2020. Biden won 2020 because he's Not Trump. Trump may win 2024 because he's not Biden-Harris, not because people love him so much.
FredWolfLeonardo
10-31-2024, 03:14 PM
I mean, let's face it. Trump is gonna lose cause he's Trump. The Repuplicans should have chosen someone else, someone younger and more well-spoken. Even if the Democrats would have still called the new guy 'Trump-lite', 'worse than Trump', 'the second Trump' or whatever, as long as the actual Trump stayed the **** away from him (mostly cause he'd be too busy dealing with all the trial stuff) he (or she) would have had a chance.
They chose J.D. Vance for that reason.
If Trump wins, there's a chance he won't finish his term in full and that's where Vance steps in.
Coola Yagami
10-31-2024, 03:16 PM
Even fast food is a luxury item now. I have no idea where all the poor people are eating. Even stores like 7/11 and McDonald's you'll be spending $10-$15 on a simple meal.
Getting a $5 sandwich for lunch is long over. You got to spend around $12 or more now.
Um... almost any fast food place that want to compete in this day and age has some sort of five dollar menu. KFC got 2 pieces of chicken, mashed potatoes and a biscuit for 5 bucks. It's a decent lunch.
Coola Yagami
10-31-2024, 04:15 PM
No, I think it's the flip of 2020. Biden won 2020 because he's Not Trump. Trump may win 2024 because he's not Biden-Harris, not because people love him so much.
eh... I dunno. There's a lot more people scared for Trump wrecking the country then there are people scared that Kamala will wreck the country.
They chose J.D. Vance for that reason.
If Trump wins, there's a chance he won't finish his term in full and that's where Vance steps in.
Unless something big happens, like a health scare or something, I doubt Trump's ego would allow him to step down.
I can see him going for the 'Trump will finish term despite recent heart attack' headline. And the MAGA crowd eating it up.
FredWolfLeonardo
10-31-2024, 04:25 PM
Unless something big happens, like a health scare or something, I doubt Trump's ego would allow him to step down.
I can see him going for the 'Trump will finish term despite recent heart attack' headline. And the MAGA crowd eating it up.
I was approaching it from the "Trump might die in office" angle since he will be 82 by the end of a second term or he might get assasinated since prior attempts inspire copycats.
Both scenarios, as morbid as I think they are, would boost Trump's popularity as someone who died on the job and they would lead to a young successor filling his shoes.
ranger_scout
10-31-2024, 06:08 PM
Mark Cuban's comments about women who support Trump couldn't have come at a worse time for Harris.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/harris-billionaire-surrogate-suggests-trump-women-dumb-days-after-bidens-garbage-comment
Zulithe
10-31-2024, 06:56 PM
Tucker Carlson Says Demon Attack Left Him Bleeding In His Bed With ‘Claw Mark’ Scars (https://www.mediaite.com/news/tucker-carlson-says-he-woke-up-bleeding-in-his-bed-after-demon-attack-that-left-claw-mark-scars/)
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yeah, a demon attack... because that happens all the time.
--
members of The Avengers make a Kamala video
https://x.com/MarkRuffalo/status/1852086517596119453
My homework for you: If members of the MCU were to make a Trump video of the same sort, which members would be in the video? :P I want your best answers!
FredWolfLeonardo
10-31-2024, 07:14 PM
My homework for you: If members of the MCU were to make a Trump video of the same sort, which members would be in the video? :P I want your best answers!
I'm not a Marvel guy and I've never seen Avengers but I think Trump's Avengers team would be:
Trump, Putin, Kim Jong Un, Xi Jinping, Viktor Orban, and the leader of the Taliban
Obviously no one from that other boring Avengers team will endorse him, not that I care.
Coola Yagami
10-31-2024, 07:33 PM
Mark Cuban's comments about women who support Trump couldn't have come at a worse time for Harris.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/harris-billionaire-surrogate-suggests-trump-women-dumb-days-after-bidens-garbage-comment
Well.... they're purposely voting for their own destruction. So yeah, they aren't all that bright.
ranger_scout
10-31-2024, 07:45 PM
GOP pollster Frank Luntz said that Biden's "garbage" comments could cost Harris the election.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/frank-luntz-gop-pollster-biden-garbage-harris-trump-b2638891.html
The comments Cuban made today certainly aren't going to help her either.
Zulithe
10-31-2024, 08:05 PM
well this is sure to get some memes rolling...
https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c75lz0n9gwgo
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/10/31/joe-biden-bites-baby-at-white-house-halloween-party/
:roll:
Zulithe
10-31-2024, 09:27 PM
Epstein Showed Me Photos of Trump with Topless Young Women Sitting in His Lap, Claims Author
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-showed-pics-of-donald-trump-with-topless-young-women-claims-author-michael-wolff/
FredWolfLeonardo
10-31-2024, 09:29 PM
Epstein Showed Me Photos of Trump with Topless Young Women Sitting in His Lap, Claims Author
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-showed-pics-of-donald-trump-with-topless-young-women-claims-author-michael-wolff/
The key word being 'claims'.
IndigoErth
10-31-2024, 09:51 PM
I'm not a Marvel guy and I've never seen Avengers but I think Trump's Avengers team would be:
Trump, Putin, Kim Jong Un, Xi Jinping, Viktor Orban, and the leader of the Taliban
Obviously no one from that other boring Avengers team will endorse him, not that I care.
That... is like the political version of people who have an unhealthy fetish for prison inmates.
Cowabung-Gal
10-31-2024, 10:41 PM
Well.... they're purposely voting for their own destruction. So yeah, they aren't all that bright.
Actually, Congress has been pushing for a mandatory military draft for both men and women. If women continue to surrender their rights and liberties to the warmongering machine just because of, you know, abortions, they’re doomed anyway. We need to take more power away from the government instead of giving more to them. They’re not our saviors or our superiors; they serve and represent us.
Sesame Street actually predicted Garbage Man Trump nearly 20 years ago with their character Donald Grump:
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https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/archeological-find-taco-bell-receipt-1999.jpg?w=540&ssl=1
https://media1.tenor.com/m/8ixyyaMy0igAAAAd/king-of-the-hill-bill-dauterive.gif
https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/rotten-tomatoes-media-rating-actual-kamala.jpg?w=526&ssl=1
https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/x-current-state-of-democrat-politics-do-you-drink-water.jpg?w=545&ssl=1
https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/income-marriage-property-tax-license-permit-fees-usa-taxpayer.jpg?w=545&ssl=1
Barkworm
11-01-2024, 02:50 AM
This is not a jab but could you keep it down with the memes? They make the thread harder to read and don‘t really add anything to the discussion.
Autbot_Benz
11-01-2024, 10:12 AM
Our Dictator on Day one ladies and gentleman
https://i.imgur.com/tDeWVrC.png
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1852209432878342308
Zulithe
11-01-2024, 10:53 AM
Unfit for office. He thinks people who do not support him should die. But keep voting for Trump all you loyalists.
FredWolfLeonardo
11-01-2024, 11:13 AM
Liz Cheney is an evil and satanic witch who used her position to promote actions that led to deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people.
Bahamut810
11-01-2024, 11:15 AM
Actually, Congress has been pushing for a mandatory military draft for both men and women. If women continue to surrender their rights and liberties to the warmongering machine just because of, you know, abortions, they’re doomed anyway. We need to take more power away from the government instead of giving more to them. They’re not our saviors or our superiors; they serve and represent us.
Good, everyone should register for the draft even if we are doing everything we can to stay away from it. One of my semi-hypocritical views is that all Americans should be ready to defend our nation and the Govmnt can help organize that.
Without mandatory drafting for women, women literally have more rights then men do. Without registering for the draft, men have the privilege to vote where women have the *right* to vote. If they don't sign up Men can be charged with a felony, get thrown in jail and lose their voting privilege and a multitude of other government progams.
ToTheNines
11-01-2024, 12:45 PM
Liz Cheney is an evil and satanic witch who used her position to promote actions that led to deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people.
You’re the only sane person posting in this thread lol.
FredWolfLeonardo
11-01-2024, 01:12 PM
You’re the only sane person posting in this thread lol.
I used to think this thread was a tragedy, but now I realise that it's a comedy.
Zulithe
11-01-2024, 01:18 PM
Yes Trump and those who ardently support him when he says we should execute political opponents are the true voice of reason.
ranger_scout
11-01-2024, 04:12 PM
Joe Walsh, who is a big Trump critic, said that Trump was not saying that Cheney should be executed.
Trump did NOT call for Liz Cheney to be executed.
This is what’s so wrong with our politics today. Look, you know how I feel about Trump, and I’ve been out there every day for 2-3 months campaigning my ass off to help get @KamalaHarris elected, but this short clip is so deceptive. Trump is NOT calling for Liz Cheney to be executed in front of a firing line. He’s not. Listen to the entirety of what he said. In Trump’s typically stupid, ugly fashion, he’s trying to make a point about Cheney’s stance on war. But Aaron (who I like & respect), by posting ONLY this 11 second clip, makes it look like he’s calling for her to be executed. He’s not. He’s an utterly horrible human being who’s utterly unfit for office, but the truth should always matter. And the truth is that Trump is not calling for Liz Cheney to be executed. But…this 11 second clip will have a gazillion views, and the truth will have just a handful of views.
https://x.com/WalshFreedom/status/1852347091038957621?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1852347091038957621%7Ctwgr% 5E704497efda8b7619f08c1e0281954c01fe512e8e%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2Ft%2Fasse ts%2Fhtml%2Ftweet-4.html1852347091038957621
Andrew NDB
11-01-2024, 05:16 PM
WHAT?! You mean to tell me the media have been taking Trump's words out of context and using them to further an agenda?!
Zulithe
11-01-2024, 05:34 PM
He's expressing, in public and to a crowd, how he'd like to see how 9 guns trained on her face. There is no out of context way of reading the comments happening here. Trying to sanewash or rationalize why a presidential nominee would ever make a comment like that is beyond the pale.
The only additional context you need is that he has made similar comments about her in the past, this is part of a pattern of violent rhetoric from Trump directed at political opponents.
Maybe Trump and his campaign can stop hurling insults at opponents long enough to talk about real policy for a change. If it even matters at this point, case in point:
http://i.imgur.com/c9wrdRDl.png (https://imgur.com/c9wrdRD)
Andrew NDB
11-01-2024, 06:26 PM
https://i.ibb.co/NF9QwP6/FB-IMG-1730081825426.jpg
FredWolfLeonardo
11-01-2024, 06:41 PM
Remember that lady who became a meme for screaming noooooooo after Trump won in 2016?
I wonder if we'll get a part 2 of that meme. And if there will be videos of people bawling their eyes out if Kamala loses.
IndigoErth
11-01-2024, 07:27 PM
Just like this one that also went viral?
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Oh wait, that's a MAGA Karen freaking out, begging Trump to "save us," and saying that Biden was "talking with some kind of crazy flag."
That "crazy flag" this moron was referring to was the flag of the state of Delaware (my home state), where he was speaking from after he won the election or around that time. If you can't even figure out a state flag and have a conniption over it... :roll:
And people like this vote and think they know what's best.
FredWolfLeonardo
11-01-2024, 07:52 PM
I can laugh at both videos.
The Trump lady looks like she is sitting on the toilet lol
Cowabung-Gal
11-01-2024, 08:25 PM
Speaking of Karens…
Warning: Language
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I’d rather deal with Jehovah’s Witness, they’re more respectful.
Warning: Language
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Sheesh. Someone call the Waaaaambulance.
Cowabung-Gal
11-01-2024, 09:45 PM
Serious question, why are most republicans poor, barely have any studies beyond High School, ignorant of the world in general?
Way to prove that the Democratic Party is in fact the party of the rich college elitists who have a disdain for the working class.
Zulithe
11-01-2024, 09:47 PM
Remember that lady who became a meme for screaming noooooooo after Trump won in 2016?
I wonder if we'll get a part 2 of that meme. And if there will be videos of people bawling their eyes out if Kamala loses.
I saw women crying in person when Trump won the first time. Oh yeah, the right had a ball with all the upset Hillary supporters. But dems had their fun with all the "stop the steal" outrage which was easily just as bad. It's still going on btw. And we might just get Part 2 real soon.
I don't know how this election is gonna pan out but there will definitely be a lot of recorded outrage on one side or the other.
btw... don't act like Trump supporters don't cry when they lose
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"President Trump please save us! I don't even see an American flag anymore"
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
All this sobbing... for what? The world is not ending. Get a grip.
FredWolfLeonardo
11-01-2024, 11:21 PM
Everyone is sad to varying extents when their hero loses. I wouldn't deny it.
Serious question, why are most republicans poor, barely have any studies beyond High School, ignorant of the world in general?
The answer with the most propaganda value is that they are the oppressed masses.
Barkworm
11-02-2024, 12:36 AM
The answer with the most propaganda value is that they are the oppressed masses.
They are not oppressed. They're either poorly educated and get all their information from social media or they have warped morals and brush off everything bad about Trump because they like his isolationist policies. Sometimes both?
Then there's your special case: People who want the current world order to crumble. That's usually Trump supporters from other countries.
Zulithe
11-02-2024, 12:49 AM
Trump simulates oral s** on stage.
He should stick to comedy. That he can do. Leading a nation, he can not do.
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1852543627534414086
*EDIT*
omg IndigoErth I'm sorry I must have refreshed at the wrong time and didn't see you post the video before me of the crying trump lady, hahaha. Sorry about that!
Andrew NDB
11-02-2024, 01:32 AM
They are not oppressed. They're either poorly educated and get all their information from social media or they have warped morals and brush off everything bad about Trump because they like his isolationist policies. Sometimes both?
I'm not sure I'm aboard with "America First" (within America, if you're an American) = "isolationist." These terms do not seem mutually exclusive.
Then there's your special case: People who want the current world order to crumble. That's usually Trump supporters from other countries.
I mean... apparently on the Drome. You're not wrong. This is a new one for me. I haven't met anyone in the day to day remotely like this.
Zulithe
11-02-2024, 02:10 AM
https://i.ibb.co/NF9QwP6/FB-IMG-1730081825426.jpg
So wait, I guess Trump voters think that if Kamala is elected that we will have a nuclear war on American soil, sure Jan.
As for the abortion thing, I just don't want the government controlling people's personal health care choices. Something Republicans USUALLY would agree with (any kind of government interference) But since abortion is a religious issue to them, they feel compelled to force their religious choices onto other people. None of that is okay to me.
Here is the kind of scenarios we end up with with abortion bans, new article from today
A Pregnant Teenager Died After Trying to Get Care in Three Visits to Texas Emergency Rooms
It took three ER visits and 20 hours before a hospital admitted Nevaeh Crain, 18, as her condition worsened. Doctors insisted on two ultrasounds to confirm “fetal demise.” She’s one of at least two Texas women who died under the state’s abortion ban.
https://www.propublica.org/article/nevaeh-crain-death-texas-abortion-ban-emtala
Andrew NDB
11-02-2024, 02:13 AM
You say nuclear war, yet the meme is just mostly saying our current climate. Whether it's at the grocery store or renting an apartment or anything else you can point at.
Cowabung-Gal
11-02-2024, 03:41 AM
As for the abortion thing, I just don't want the government controlling people's personal health care choices.
Hope you feel the same way about vaccines.
https://www.propublica.org/article/nevaeh-crain-death-texas-abortion-ban-emtala
Regarding this particular case, it wasn’t an abortion issue. It was a malpractice and misdiagnosis issue. Medical malpractice happens in all states, not just the ones with abortion ban laws, but of course, the states that do have abortion bans get all the attention because of, you know, political reasons, and we are just a couple of days away from the election. It’s shameful that they’re using this tragedy to get people riled up and making it seem like it was an abortion ban issue when it wasn’t.
Mayhem
11-02-2024, 08:46 AM
Serious question, why are most republicans poor, barely have any studies beyond High School, ignorant of the world in general?
Because they are the easiest to dupe and manipulate, especially considering many of them are also rabid religionists. But there are plenty of not so well off Democrats, so there isn’t a direct correlation between education and standing, and political opinion. Only that Democrats tends to be better educated, on average slightly higher IQ, and I believe you don’t tend to find many Republican leaning scientists and researchers.
Bahamut810
11-02-2024, 09:45 AM
So wait, I guess Trump voters think that if Kamala is elected that we will have a nuclear war on American soil, sure Jan.
I think there is a better chance that WMDs will be used if Harris is elected. I would guess *if* it would happen someone else would use them first. Trump is himself a deterrent for this sort of things. Depending on who you believe he is either working closely with WMD capable enemies of the people, or that he is such a strong leader other leaders fear him, or that he is just sitting there with his finger on the launch buttons going "bring it so I can show you my Nuke-wang", or just that he is easy to work with because of his self interest...which ever view that other 'enemy' leaders have of him will be more favorable then whatever Harris is going to bring. If I were to guess, *if* Harris wins and *if* something happens then next year Taiwan is going to be invaded and WW3 starts. If WW3 starts then WMDs will be used on the American public because that would be their only hope of winning.
I dont think either candidate is ready for military action or war. Trump is...Trump and Harris is a career politician who will only care about optics rather then saving american lives.
ranger_scout
11-02-2024, 10:01 AM
Even more liberals are saying that the media is lying about Trump's comments on Liz Cheney.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/liberals-trump-critics-blast-medias-coverage-liz-cheney-comments-bald-faced-lie
CyberCubed
11-02-2024, 10:35 AM
Thank god this will all be over in 3 days (for the most part). Although you know if Trump loses he'll claim the votes were rigged again like when Biden won.
Andrew NDB
11-02-2024, 11:04 AM
Hm... here in WA.
https://washingtonstatestandard.com/briefs/inslee-activates-washington-national-guard-ahead-of-election-day/
Does he know something we don't?
Zulithe
11-02-2024, 11:27 AM
If Trump gets elected, get your tech buying done asap
60% tariffs on all Chinese goods are going to slam the IT sector
https://www.theregister.com/2024/11/01/us_trump_tariff/
Cowabung-Gal
11-02-2024, 12:35 PM
Remember Peanut the Squirrel?
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Well, thanks to government, he’s now dead.
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THIS is why I keep saying, THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT NEED MORE POWER!
Someone (a Karen or some jealous loser) files a complaint and our good friends from the government raid this guy’s home, take Peanut the squirrel and Fred the raccoon away, and euthanize them so that they could be “tested for rabies”.
THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A CASE OF RABIES TRANSMITTED TO A HUMAN FROM A SQUIRREL.
See, they think we the People are just stupid sheep that they could just control.
These animals were healthy and well taken care of. There was no reason for the government to step in and murder them. But then again, this is New York, where criminals are given a slap on the wrist and let go but your beloved pet could be put to death by the state.
IndigoErth
11-02-2024, 04:31 PM
Government or not (because even the humane society that's typically a non-profit will also at times euthanize animals), that's stupid of anyone to put those animals down if they were healthy. There's no reason not to find a new home for them if they can't be released into the wild.
There's a zoo I've been too in MD a handful of times over the years that is largely made up of rescued animals, likewise taken from homes they may have outgrown or been owned illegally, or taken in for other specific reasons. Places like that DO exist. And while a zoo isn't necessarily THE ideal option, it's animals that can't really be returned to the wild.
omg IndigoErth I'm sorry I must have refreshed at the wrong time and didn't see you post the video before me of the crying trump lady, hahaha. Sorry about that!
lol No worries, that crazy lady is worth a double post. :tlol:
Mayhem
11-02-2024, 08:05 PM
https://i.imgur.com/MCvULAT.jpeg
Zulithe
11-02-2024, 08:30 PM
Listen To The Jeffrey Epstein Tapes: ‘I Was Donald Trump’s Closest Friend’
THE PREDATOR AND THE PRESIDENT
Explosive tapes recorded by author Michael Wolff show Epstein claiming Trump liked to “f---” his friends’ wives and first slept with Melania on the Lolita Express. (https://www.thedailybeast.com/listen-to-the-jeffrey-epstein-tapes-i-was-donald-trumps-closest-friend/)
FredWolfLeonardo
11-02-2024, 08:38 PM
Forcing things on people is a good thing, as long as the right things are being forced.
I don't agree with religious folk who insist they only want free choice. Free choice favours the (insert liberal group here), not the traditional religious believer who will lose the arguement from choice every single time.
Once force and authoritarianism can be established as a noble principles, they will open the floodgates and fundamentally transform Western society.
Zulithe
11-02-2024, 11:37 PM
Kamala on SNL
https://x.com/nbcsnl/status/1852921270159163900
Autbot_Benz
11-02-2024, 11:55 PM
Forcing things on people is a good thing, as long as the right things are being forced.
Once force and authoritarianism can be established as a noble principles, they will open the floodgates and fundamentally transform Western society.
Christ Almighty what is with your raging hard on for Dictators and fascism
https://i.imgur.com/z93yivR.gif
CyberCubed
11-03-2024, 12:33 AM
The way people talk they should move to North Korea if they want to see what repressed people under a dictatorship are really like.
Zulithe
11-03-2024, 12:48 AM
Having the wisdom to understand all dictators think they are forcing people to do the right thing because they know what is best is something that is in short supply apparently.
Please, PLEASE learn some history.
FredWolfLeonardo
11-03-2024, 01:27 AM
The way people talk they should move to North Korea if they want to see what repressed people under a dictatorship are really like.
North Korea belongs to the Koreans and nobody else. And my home country is a dictatorship in practice
It honestly wasn't all bad until Imran Khan was forcibly replaced by an American puppet regime on the orders of the Biden administration.
IndigoErth
11-03-2024, 01:19 AM
January 6th 2025.
Once force and authoritarianism can be established as a noble principles, they will open the floodgates and fundamentally transform Western society.
Christ Almighty what is with your raging hard on for Dictators and fascism
It honestly wasn't all bad until Imran Khan was forcibly replaced by an American puppet regime on the orders of the Biden administration.
So, the explanation is... spite.
ranger_scout
11-03-2024, 09:50 AM
NBC and Saturday Night Live might've violated an equal-time FCC rule by inviting the Vice President to appear on the show last night.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2024/11/03/theres-something-wrong-with-kamalas-snl-appearance-n2647177
https://thehill.com/homenews/4968217-fcc-commissioner-claims-harris-on-snl-violates-equal-time-rule/
Coola Yagami
11-03-2024, 10:12 AM
NBC and Saturday Night Live might've violated an equal time FCC clause by inviting the Vice President to appear on the show last night.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2024/11/03/theres-something-wrong-with-kamalas-snl-appearance-n2647177
You know that 'it's ok when they do it'. Trump is the person that's 'ok to make fun of' and he would have been raked over the coals if he did the same.
He's such a toxic figure that if he appeared on SNL instead they'd be calling for SNL to be canceled and whoever invited him to the show to be fired.
Mayhem
11-03-2024, 12:51 PM
He wouldn’t go on as he doesn’t understand satire.
Coola Yagami
11-03-2024, 01:46 PM
He wouldn’t go on as he doesn’t understand satire.
You honestly think he'd pass up on a chance to talk about himself while taking 'satirical' potshots at Kamala?
Barkworm
11-03-2024, 02:07 PM
I know people from both camps here don‘t care much about them for different reasons but I need to address this year‘s polls for a bit: I‘ve said it before but this is the weirdest year for polls I have ever seen. In most swing states the races are so close that you have to wonder whether pollsters are trying to overcompensate for the big misses in state polls from the last two elections. If everything‘s basically 50/50, you cannot be held accountable, right?
Then there are even weirder polling days like yesterday when Harris got a +3 poll from one of the most reputable pollsters in the US in Iowa of all places but an hour later another poll shows a +9 Trump lead there. Similarly, a week ago there was a +20 poll for Harris in New Hampshire and shortly later a tied poll. What the hell is going on?
Mathematically the result is not going to be close, especially when it comes to the actual number of electorals. With most battleground states being basically tied, you just need a small systematic error into one direction for one candidate to sweep all swing states.
joe-eyeball
11-03-2024, 02:19 PM
I know people from both camps here don‘t care much about them for different reasons but I need to address this year‘s polls for a bit: I‘ve said it before but this is the weirdest year for polls I have ever seen. In most swing states the races are so close that you have to wonder whether pollsters are trying to overcompensate for the big misses in state polls from the last two elections. If everything‘s basically 50/50, you cannot be held accountable, right?
Then there are even weirder polling days like yesterday when Harris got a +3 poll from one of the most reputable pollsters in the US in Iowa of all places but an hour later another poll shows a +9 Trump lead there. Similarly, a week ago there was a +20 poll for Harris in New Hampshire and shortly later a tied poll. What the hell is going on?
Mathematically the result is not going to be close, especially when it comes to the actual number of electorals. With most battleground states being basically tied, you just need a small systematic error into one direction for one candidate to sweep all swing states.
Yeah the polling has certainly been strange this cycle. Some pollsters have claimed they started weighting their polls to try to compensate for past cycles while others have said they aren’t doing that. Who really knows? My guess is either Trump wins rather soundly or Harris just wins it. It’s just a guess and worth about as much as anyone else’s?:tlol:
Prowler
11-03-2024, 02:45 PM
I don't understand why Trump has a cult legion behind him to the point of even gaining fans from all around the world. I've seen people of many different nationalities, including my own, all aboard the Trump train. This makes the popularity of Obama back in the day look like nothing in comparison.
And even if people don't like his opponents... how exactly is Trump any better? And why do his cult followers believe everything he's been accused of is a lie? And why do they believe he cares for the working class and the poor when he was born into money and has always been filthy rich? He's literally the type of person the system works for.
What policies did he even implement when he was president the first time? Serious question, what did he even achieve in order for a lot of people to still blindly follow him?
I don't get it. And no, him not being "the other guy/girl" isn't good enough of an explanation for me.
He wouldn’t go on as he doesn’t understand satire.He already hosted the show two times already.
FredWolfLeonardo
11-03-2024, 03:40 PM
I don't get it.
It's his ability win over crowds with angry and passionate speeches.
Emotions, not policies are what influence the masses.
ranger_scout
11-03-2024, 09:42 PM
NBC has filed an equal notice following the Vice President’s appearance on Saturday Night Live.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/nbc-files-equal-time-notice-harris-snl-cameo-following-backlash
Zulithe
11-03-2024, 10:14 PM
Trump literally hosted an entire episode in 2015 when he was a Presidential Candidate. But keep crying right wingers.
Trump already received his equal airtime even though he hates NBC. It aired tonight during nascar.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/nbc-gives-trump-free-airtime-to-ensure-equal-time-after-kamala-harris-appearance-on-snl/
Coola Yagami
11-03-2024, 10:23 PM
Trump literally hosted an entire episode in 2015 when he was a Presidential Candidate. But keep crying right wingers.
Trump already received his equal airtime even though he hates NBC. It aired tonight during nascar.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/nbc-gives-trump-free-airtime-to-ensure-equal-time-after-kamala-harris-appearance-on-snl/
Isn't the issue the timing or whatever? When he hosted that episode in 2015, wasn't that a year away from the election?
Zulithe
11-03-2024, 10:33 PM
Isn't the issue the timing or whatever? When he hosted that episode in 2015, wasn't that a year away from the election?
Trump announced his candidacy June 16, 2015. The SNL episode aired Nov 7 2015. It was clearly used to boost him in the election process. Memes and clips from the episode were commonly used throughout the entire next year and still get used to this day.
I don't see what it matters rather the episode aired 3 days before the election or nearly a year, it was still part of the candidacy campaign.
Andrew NDB
11-03-2024, 10:47 PM
Trump announced his candidacy June 16, 2015. The SNL episode aired Nov 7 2015. It was clearly used to boost him in the election process. Memes and clips from the episode were commonly used throughout the entire next year and still get used to this day.
I don't see what it matters rather the episode aired 3 days before the election or nearly a year, it was still part of the candidacy campaign.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNGwzMGMzOWVxNG5mYXFyY3FicnFsNXY ycHN2eWkwM2xmNzI5OWo0eCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/W2opyY4uSKfuThJ3JH/giphy.gif
Zulithe
11-03-2024, 11:07 PM
https://i.imgur.com/JFS8Bm2l.png
The "Squirrel dad" MAGAt hero was using the squirrel for porn (https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/comments/1giood4/the_squirrel_dad_magat_hero_was_using_the/)
Doesn't feel like something Rs would generally support, gay pr0n. Many of them want to OUTLAW pr0n.
But it happened in a blue state that's all that matters :lol:
Reportedly he used the squirrel in his actual OF posts too.
Key word here: WEIRD
Zulithe
11-03-2024, 11:28 PM
Chris Chan endorses Kamala
We are totally winning this now :lol::lol::lol:
https://x.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1852878515382652970
Zulithe
11-04-2024, 03:20 AM
election day tomorrow 8)
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Barkworm
11-04-2024, 03:27 AM
I'm 100 per cent ready for this to finally be over.
Mayhem
11-04-2024, 03:45 AM
Yeah the polling has certainly been strange this cycle. Some pollsters have claimed they started weighting their polls to try to compensate for past cycles while others have said they aren’t doing that. Who really knows? My guess is either Trump wins rather soundly or Harris just wins it. It’s just a guess and worth about as much as anyone else’s?:tlol:
I looked at some of this, most polls are 1000 people tops. That's a lot to extrapolate, and entirely down to who you ask. A few people one way or the other might dramatically swing the view.
He already hosted the show two times already.
Before he was President. It's a whole different world now especially in MAGA hell given the US had to suffer four years of his tenancy. He'd have the absolutely living crap ripped out of him if he went on today. As was noted above, you could almost argue that going on was a pubicity boost for his presidential run.
I'm 100 per cent ready for this to finally be over.
You and me both, and probably millions more.
Andrew NDB
11-04-2024, 04:40 AM
I'm 100 per cent ready for this to finally be over.
Yeeeeah.
And pollsters. Yeesh. This is ridiculous. I'm almost 100% convinced these guys are 100% convinced they don't know what they're doing. And by that I mean obviously polls aren't anywhere near 100% accurate... and almost nobody knows anyone who has ever taken one. And the ones I've heard running them talk about them mostly say they're trying to adjust for this and that and the other... so I'm pretty much just left with the pretty educated assumption that all of these guys are just jigging and jagging to not go one way and end up wrong and shotgunning their credibility going forward. So they just keep ejaculating polls where it's 1% this way, or 3% that way, throwing their hands up. And now, I don't think this is coming from a place of deception... I just think this is coming from a place of "If this goes the other way, we want to be trusted when the smoke settles." Because they know they have no idea. The average "Trump Voter" isn't exactly ballyhooing it across the valley, and all.
Zulithe
11-04-2024, 05:06 AM
But will it REALLY be over by Tues night, we'll have to see :)
My prediction for Tues night:
https://twitter.com/IsthmusPol/status/1853340750848639007
CyberCubed
11-04-2024, 05:42 AM
There will definitely be people raging the votes were "rigged" if Trump loses, the same happened when he lost to Biden 4 years ago. Let's hope there are no riots this time. Or better yet, they can throw all those people in jail again. :lol:
neatoman
11-04-2024, 09:33 AM
The most important question of them all, if Trump wins this time, will we get four more seasons of President Garrison or will the president in South Park actually be Trump this time?
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